@@DTM93 He died in prison after a visit from Sean Slater. He was trying to ring Jake Moon to get him to put a hit on Sean but had a heart attack or something and all he could say to the nearby prisoners was "Get Jake". They misunderstood this as a request to kill Jake Moon and the last Jake was seen alive was in a car with what appears to be his killers as he has not been seen or heard from since. Johnny died and I don't think he spoke again.
@@94blondebimbo Oh yeah i remember that Johnny scene, didn't think it meant he was dead though, seems like a cliff hanger to me, like they could bring him back if they wanted to still? Not sure.
Remember watching that back in the day (as it was the same episode Den Watts was murdered) and always wondered. Was that really Michael Higgs screaming as Andy falls or was it someone else's scream dubbed in?
I remember this feud like it was yesterday! Hard to believe this was 14 years ago! Thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort to put them all together 😊
"This is my office" "I'll call you when its free" 🤣🤣🤣 Mr X or Johnny allen, absolute legend from the get go. Wish they would bring him back. Rest in pieces Andy Hunter!
"This is my office!" " Well I'll call you when it's free." Lmfao that bit was hilarious. Imagine having to actually wait for access to your own office. 🤣
Good Friday 2022 - EE peaked for decades, imo, this was at its modern day best, with some brilliantly actors playing superb roles. I stopped watching it in 2014, and thats because its shocking in comparison, but these clips are priceless, and never get boring.
EE Scenes 85 id have loved to see people on the motorway complaining 😂 “I’m gonna be late, someone’s fallen off the bridge, nearly crashed me bloody car”
Johnny planned to kill him right from the beginning. Playing mind games, deliberately getting him to turn on Johnny, making Paul Trueman turn up it was a masterclass from someone who knew Andy was too greedy, too stupid and in the end too weak for the job.
@@chrisrowe7503 Nope mate. There’s no evidence for that. East Enders didn’t even point at that. Johnny was just angry because Andy tried to screw him over.
@@Truth_Seeker1 Eddie was Johnny's spy from the start. As I say they never confirmed it but the way the storyline panned out you could see he was gradually plotting Andy's demise so he could have Walford to himself.
@@chrisrowe7503 Nope it never showed at all that he planned it. Also he said he was retiring. He says to Eddie I never want to see you again from that I think Eddie grassed on Andy and he actually wasn’t working for Johnny.
I would imagine that years before Andy took the reigns as the leader of the firm, the previous leaders would have been near worshipped in the local pub. Yet Andy pretty much gets thrown out with no second thought. Shows his actual status.
Johnny: "This conversation is over." (Johnny and Jake sit in silence) Andy: Johnny! Just the man... Johnny: We're in the middle of a conversation 'ere." 😂
2001/02 to 2005 was a golden era for many, many things (including hip-hop). Something intrinsic happened to society from 2006/2007 onwards and not for the better.
2004 was very average and it showed. The Ferreira family having way to much air time and other boring storylines. But 2005 and onwards was very strong I thought.
Yeah the dirty den death storyline gets mentioned a lot but I found it boring . This feud was better and Andy death was better apart from the weird scream.
At first I was abit sceptical as I remembered these 2 in the Bill and even though they were brilliant It felt odd that they both reunite in eastenders as gangsters...both of them were again excellent in Eastenders...shame Johnny got him killed.
So glad Andy got what he deserved from Johnny not long after what he did to Paul. Despised him. When Patrick confronted him he knew his days were numbered. So Johnny pushing him over the flyover was what happened. Johnny was also scum for what he did to Dennis. And Ruby, sweet as she tried to be, was as twisted as her dad. Very evil. And Stacey's brother Sean finished off johnny in prison. Ruby tried to buy Sean's love.
Why did Andy just walk across the bridge like that and not push Johnny backwards or move his hand away. He must’ve been suspicious of Johnny from the start. I remember watching this years ago and I never understood why he did that.
Anyone could have taken Andy on in a fight. It wasn't him personally who people were scared of it was his heavies. As Dennis Rickman explained to Alfie when Andy jumped the queue to Angie's Den in one episode.
Andy has more feats though. The only things Johnny has done is punching Ian and dodging a punch from Phil. Andy knocked Ian out with one punch and also handled Alfie several times. Also pinned his henchman against a wall.
@@H.K.5 Well he didn't just dodge Phil's punch, he came back at him after Phil landed one and punched Phil in the face. I think Johnny would edge Andy.
@@chrisrowe7503 Mate, Andy was an established hardman, he used heavies but they usually weren't required to beat the person up, he beat people up himself.
It's a shame Johnny Allen wasn't in the show longer. They later tried to turn him in to a softie with getting a daughter and wife which didn't quite work. When the actor decided to leave he went full on mob boss again
Theres always a third way but believe me you dont want to go there. Johnny is such a boss hinting at killing him in a crowded pub then kills him later on.
@@darylkemp1257 Johnny Allen was even more powerful than they were at the time. In fact I think at this point Johnny had all of the old firm on his payroll. That's how Paul Trueman turned up.
This is when eastenders was worth watching trust
best era
Eastenders' very own 'Attitude Era' lol, gangster style. Storylines were produced much better back then and it was more watchable.
Fact.
Defo
2005 was a good for Eastenders it was its 20th anniversary
One of the all-timer Eastenders feuds. Johnny completely outclassed Andy from the start, made him look small time
He was working for Dalton I seem to remember Andy in his office did he take over from him,
feuds, gangsters what a load of BS
They killed off Johnny Allen far too soon. Greatest Eastenders villain by a country mile, played to perfection by Billy Murray.
They didn't kill him off did they? Thought he was in the slammer?
@@DTM93 He died in prison after a visit from Sean Slater. He was trying to ring Jake Moon to get him to put a hit on Sean but had a heart attack or something and all he could say to the nearby prisoners was "Get Jake". They misunderstood this as a request to kill Jake Moon and the last Jake was seen alive was in a car with what appears to be his killers as he has not been seen or heard from since. Johnny died and I don't think he spoke again.
@@94blondebimbo Oh yeah i remember that Johnny scene, didn't think it meant he was dead though, seems like a cliff hanger to me, like they could bring him back if they wanted to still? Not sure.
Killing off Danny was a massive loss. They could've done a lot with his chaotic behaviour against his calmer brother
@@maverickmic Danny was crap actor
2:49 "ill make a phone call to my friends up North. They`ll come down and tuck you in with a shovel" Brilliant
Price, Don’t do it!
The cartoon scream as Andy falls is still hilarious
imagine if he screamed like Goofy
@@danielhindson1840 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Remember watching that back in the day (as it was the same episode Den Watts was murdered) and always wondered. Was that really Michael Higgs screaming as Andy falls or was it someone else's scream dubbed in?
Just thinking that 😂😂😂
Billy Murray does quiet unspoken menace so well.
Eastenders hasn’t been the same since Johnny left the show. This was a great story line.
Yeah he was well ard
Johnny Allen billy Murray is my uncle ❤
@@Henners343course he is 🙄
I remember this feud like it was yesterday! Hard to believe this was 14 years ago! Thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort to put them all together 😊
Ok thanks I will send
Fee no you don't want to make y and I have been working on a regular thing I
Thank you for this classic
It's my office 🤣🤣🤣
"This is my office"
"I'll call you when its free" 🤣🤣🤣
Mr X or Johnny allen, absolute legend from the get go. Wish they would bring him back.
Rest in pieces Andy Hunter!
"This is my office!"
" Well I'll call you when it's free."
Lmfao that bit was hilarious. Imagine having to actually wait for access to your own office. 🤣
2005 is eastenders best ever year overall from start to finish.
I miss the proper old east end gangsters likes of Jonny
Proper gents. Only murdered their own.
Back in the day when Eastenders was worth watching
3:57 Attempting his best De Niro Impression
The good old days of Eastenders when we had great villains who you loved to hate, love Bill Murray since his Don Beech days on The Bill
My uncle❤
Funny to think not long after Johnny Allen died in Eastenders, he was in Rise of the footsoldiers with actors like Craig Fairbrass and others.
Weird how Andy and Den feuded through late 2004 only to die on the same night
Whenever I hear Johnny speak I just hear Captain Price
Same guy
Same actor
Don Beech
Hunter went from Dalton’s lieutenant to an irrelevance.
Andy Hunter was underrated. He was one of my favourite characters.
Andy "What's in it for me?"
Johnny "nothing"
What more can Johnny say apart from "I'll just push you off a road bridge"?
Good Friday 2022 - EE peaked for decades, imo, this was at its modern day best, with some brilliantly actors playing superb roles. I stopped watching it in 2014, and thats because its shocking in comparison, but these clips are priceless, and never get boring.
The Johnny Allen years was the end of the gangster era of EastEnders
Eastenders still had the grit and realness here
Imagine if Dan Sullivan and Johnny Allen met.
Ghost and Price!
They met in rise of the footsoldier
They will come and tuck you in with a shovel 🤣🤣
Johnny was always funny 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The funniest thing about it is that he's been deadly serious 🤣
Remember when these were in the bill they were legends in that as well
Beach is back
Great TV
The time when you could have a single malt and a benson in the local.
I know mate those where the days lol
Indeed! Great times indeed!😉
Andy was smoking a cigar, not a cigarette.
Eddie Santini and Don Beech reunite. 😂
They were never in the same league Lol
Great video mate! This feud needed to be done
Very true! :)
EE Scenes 85 id have loved to see people on the motorway complaining 😂 “I’m gonna be late, someone’s fallen off the bridge, nearly crashed me bloody car”
@@theeastendboy aha! "I've just finished work and I want my fucking tea!" 😂😂
EE Scenes 85 😂
Billy Murray one of the greats
A shame he was replaced as captain Price.
Conversation's Over........one way to describe Johnny Allen
Andy Hunter/Johnny Allen's whipping boy🤣 I always thought hunter was a wannabe gangster. what a joke he was😂
Den & Johnny teaming up, classic
Andy was good but Johnny was a perfect example of a bigger fish
Johnny planned to kill him right from the beginning. Playing mind games, deliberately getting him to turn on Johnny, making Paul Trueman turn up it was a masterclass from someone who knew Andy was too greedy, too stupid and in the end too weak for the job.
Chris Rowe That's not true he killed Andy because he stole from him, and Johnny thought he did not take him seriously.
@@Truth_Seeker1 He knew Andy would rip him off from the second he gave him the job. It was a set up from the start.
@@chrisrowe7503 Nope mate. There’s no evidence for that. East Enders didn’t even point at that. Johnny was just angry because Andy tried to screw him over.
@@Truth_Seeker1 Eddie was Johnny's spy from the start. As I say they never confirmed it but the way the storyline panned out you could see he was gradually plotting Andy's demise so he could have Walford to himself.
@@chrisrowe7503 Nope it never showed at all that he planned it. Also he said he was retiring. He says to Eddie I never want to see you again from that I think Eddie grassed on Andy and he actually wasn’t working for Johnny.
Andy was too soft the moment johnny Allen showed up
I would imagine that years before Andy took the reigns as the leader of the firm, the previous leaders would have been near worshipped in the local pub. Yet Andy pretty much gets thrown out with no second thought. Shows his actual status.
Johnny made Andy look like a 2 bob wannabe gangster. Johnny was a don.
Johnny Allen and Den Watts. The two ultimate icons of this show.
Andy always did have a habit of going over the top...
I'd forgotten how low bob Andy was and the love triangle he had with Kalfie before that. Made me chuckle with his delivery of lines 😃
Johnny: "This conversation is over."
(Johnny and Jake sit in silence)
Andy: Johnny! Just the man...
Johnny: We're in the middle of a conversation 'ere."
😂
I like the way J Allen does business
An era of epicness
Captain Price retired from the SAS to become an East end villain.
Miss these days
They need people like this again in EE
Billy Murray is a top actor, makes a perfect gangster
Johnny Allen vs Jack Dalton would’ve been the best feud
Pat face when johnny says there allways third way lol
2002 to 2005 was EasEnders golden age miss the gangster era
2001/02 to 2005 was a golden era for many, many things (including hip-hop). Something intrinsic happened to society from 2006/2007 onwards and not for the better.
2004 was very average and it showed. The Ferreira family having way to much air time and other boring storylines. But 2005 and onwards was very strong I thought.
Good times! Eastenders wasn't worth watching again after the Johnny Allen era.
I agree with that. I mean, Ben, Callum, Mick Carter, Karen....rubbish, stupid characters
@@russellthompson9271 Who?
Exactly went downhill when they introduced the Brannings and the Carters
funniest death scream ever aauugghhh
Bill Murray awsome actor
"Enjoy your flight" hahaha
These scenes with Allen giving instructions are like GTA mission cutscenes quality 😅
I liked Andy & Johnny there were actually good characters
They both played in The Bill together. DS Don Beech and PC Eddie Santini
@@ChristopherS9627 not many on Eastenders that weren't on the The Bill or vise versa.
@@kevinprior3549 not only they’re both villains in EastEnders but even in The Bill they’re both villains
@@kevinprior3549 revolving door
@@ChristopherS9627 even Des Taviner was in its... he was a villain in both too
both in tv cop series " the bill " at the same time (late 1990s ) Don Beach & Eddie santini
One of my favourite fueds on Eastenders. 😃
Defo, plus it most certainly was a underrated one too! 😊
@Qasim Hussain wasn't as popular mate
Yeah the dirty den death storyline gets mentioned a lot but I found it boring . This feud was better and Andy death was better apart from the weird scream.
Dan Sullivan vs Phil Mitchell is probably the best feud of all time
Ruby be like 🗣 “am Johnny Allens dawta!!”
That guy is CAPTAIN PRICE in the original three COD Games. Billy Murray, wow.
When eastenders was great and then it became shit when the Brannings and the Carters arrived
The Carters I agree with Brannings I disagree
The Brannings aren't too bad tbf, The Carters I agree are terrible
Jack was cool characters initially then turned his character he should of come alone without connection
Even now in my opinion the Carters are massively overrated what are left of them.
Johnny was such a g when he said there’s always a 3rd way and believe me you don’t want to go there.. lol
Imagine if Johnny Allen went up against Jack Dalton
Then Johnny would say to Dalton I'm using your office and Dalton would wet his pants 😅
you wouldn't get characters like this on East enders now lol
Nope, we got Ben Mitchell instead lol
And bobby fucking beale
James Boss : Times have changed, technology, social media has destroyed a lot of things.
Gangsters don't really exist now
@@alfiemoon2516 Jags Panesar: Am i a joke to you oh wait-
Conversation over let's go
"I want you to give them a job "...."uhh oh right what's in it for me ?"...."nothing!!!!!" Classic
Andy Hunter gets his comeuppance by Johnny Allen 😂😂
Patrick would of knocked Andy out if they'd let him!
Would have.
At first I was abit sceptical as I remembered these 2 in the Bill and even though they were brilliant It felt odd that they both reunite in eastenders as gangsters...both of them were again excellent in Eastenders...shame Johnny got him killed.
Town wasn't big enough for the two of them especially with Andy's ego
So glad Andy got what he deserved from Johnny not long after what he did to Paul. Despised him. When Patrick confronted him he knew his days were numbered. So Johnny pushing him over the flyover was what happened. Johnny was also scum for what he did to Dennis. And Ruby, sweet as she tried to be, was as twisted as her dad. Very evil. And Stacey's brother Sean finished off johnny in prison. Ruby tried to buy Sean's love.
Who would you say was worse Johnny Allen or Andy Hunter?
The A2 will never be the same lol
The best days of the show!
Andy let Johnny use his office and trusted him. He had no right to kill him!
he found out he was going to get ripped off for £750k
Damnn lol ^
Why did Andy just walk across the bridge like that and not push Johnny backwards or move his hand away.
He must’ve been suspicious of Johnny from the start.
I remember watching this years ago and I never understood why he did that.
Andy felt he was safe being in such a public area that nothing bad would happen
Because its eastenders, and the scriptwriters are not very sophisticated, probably just left uni..
Agreed there, but his character was getting killed off that's why. 😂
The Bill meets EastEnders. Poly vs Peggy and Reg vs Ian would of been a classic.
Reg would win easily
It was all going well for Allen until they cast his silly daughter and wife
Wife you mean mistress Johnny’s wife and other daughter Scarlett died in a house fire
Yeah Allen should have sued the producers
And having him moving into Walford.
Phil came back and then Grant and most of the soaps love directing their gold in one direction
I reckon Johnny could take Andy in a fight, especially when he was able to fight somewhat okay against Phil.
Anyone could have taken Andy on in a fight. It wasn't him personally who people were scared of it was his heavies. As Dennis Rickman explained to Alfie when Andy jumped the queue to Angie's Den in one episode.
Andy has more feats though. The only things Johnny has done is punching Ian and dodging a punch from Phil. Andy knocked Ian out with one punch and also handled Alfie several times. Also pinned his henchman against a wall.
@@H.K.5 Andy knocked Ian out 😂😂 fucking howling
@@H.K.5 Well he didn't just dodge Phil's punch, he came back at him after Phil landed one and punched Phil in the face. I think Johnny would edge Andy.
@@chrisrowe7503 Mate, Andy was an established hardman, he used heavies but they usually weren't required to beat the person up, he beat people up himself.
I wanted to know what Johnny and andy said in the office off screen at the start of the video when Johnny said nothing
It's a shame Johnny Allen wasn't in the show longer. They later tried to turn him in to a softie with getting a daughter and wife which didn't quite work. When the actor decided to leave he went full on mob boss again
not really towards the end he just lost the plot, he went mad.
Tina was his Mistress not wife
Johnny's character actually ended up a bit like Andy's: a has-been gangster with a failing reputation that convinced nobody.
Andy Hunter was no match on Johnny Allen. You never beat Mr A proper old school gangster.
Jack Dalton could
Always somebody higher than Johnny even, especially in the gangster world.
Thats the A102 in Greenwich and Westcombe Park Station
Johnny Allen was the hardest villain in Eastenders by miles they should’ve kept him and had the Mitchell’s working for him
andy was so scared of johnny lol
The last time I watched the show!
Johnny destroyed Andy. This wasn't even a contest.
This ain't a hospital, it is now
Billy Murray great actor indeed.
Those screams at the end were comical ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh like he'd been pushed off the empire state building and not a 20ft overpass. 🤦
He might as well have done a Tarzan yell
Theres always a third way but believe me you dont want to go there. Johnny is such a boss hinting at killing him in a crowded pub then kills him later on.
This was when I loved Eastenders, stopped watching about 10 years ago
Don beach and Eddie santini 😂😂
DS Beach was out of PC Santini's league by far, that's why EE brought these characters together for confirmation who's better.
There are so many connections between Grange Hill, EastEnders, The Bill, Casualty etc etc!
billy murray is a tv legend
adz walter I met him at York Station when I was a kid. He was in the bill at the time. Lovely guy, signed an autograph for me
Don Beeching
Andy Hunter was no match for Johnny Allen Hunter was a Young Wannabee, Johnny was an old school pro
Agreed! Shame we never saw Johnny beat many people up, think most of it was off screen
Andy hunter was no match for anyone once the firm kicked him out
@@darylkemp1257 Johnny Allen was even more powerful than they were at the time. In fact I think at this point Johnny had all of the old firm on his payroll. That's how Paul Trueman turned up.
Andy hunter was hot one hot bloke in my book where Johnny Allen was made of steel.
Or andy hunter was the victim of the producer/writers bringing in an older but improved version of the same character
Yes 10 out 10 fot that
Johnny really showed Andy up
Good days watching eastenders then lol
Johnny Alan has pushed Andy Hunter the motorway cliff good storyline
Johnny was brilliant
Dennis Rickman winding Johnny Allen up was funny as fuck then he beat him half to death and got stabbed to death but fukin hell he went out in style