This is a water main valve "Street key" cover. Below it was a direct buried valve probably 8-16" dia with a large square at the top. The maintenance guy would drop a long shaft with a square socket at the bottom and a large T handle at the top. A typical thread on a valve was 10 tpi, so an 8" would take 80 turns to close, but valves over 10" often have a 10:1 gear reduction on it, so that's 1600 revolutions! So to close a 16" valve you dropped the shaft down, add two 2x4x8's to the top and get 6 "volunteers' from the local jail. Use 4 to run around in circles, the two spare are to take over when the first get dizzy and fall down.
The split round aluminum system is a great idea. That will be my first project next time in the shop. String trimmer line has come in handy for holding parts not quite square.
Hi wow 32 mm you not messing around, that is well a giant. Well at least you used a nice color blue is also our favorite color. Before super glue we used to have to use shellac. Love the water plaque. Thank you for the share, Lance & Patrick.
No gold watch. Not with our budget woes. We actually make retirement presents for any retiree that wants one. I work in facilities, so we have every trade represented. Our mill shop has a stockpile of Illinois-shaped wood backs. Our sign shop does the plaque part. The shop the retiree is from will come up with an item from their trade to stick on there like the spud wrench and the water cover. We've done vernier calipers and micrometers for machinist retirees. It's not always a plaque either. A guy from the alarm shop got a beautifully painted antique fire alarm box that held... beverages. One of the mill shop workers retired recently and he was an avid cyclist, so they welded two bike frames together into an easy chair for him. Basically, if you're retiring and you weren't a total dick you'll get something nice to remember us by .
Interesting video. It's always good to see how others overcome work holding obstacles. If similar scenarios present themselves in the future, hopefully you'll document them for another video. Thanks.
@@StuartdeHaro That would be awesome, if u haven't allready done that. I just found ur channel and i find it extremely helpfull when I'm at the moment trying to learn to machine etc. P.s. I'm not a native speaker (or should i say typer?) of English, but trying to learn that to at the moment.
I had to re-watch my video to see what you were talking about. That's on the blade guard on our Marvel saw. At any given time you can find between 0 and 3 tape measures on that machine. It's always 0 when you need one though.
@@StuartdeHaro haha that's always the way. I realised afterwards that it wasnt a milling machine. I dont think a tape measure would really suffice as a replacement for a dro or hight guage
One of my favorite tricks is for holding small parts when using a standard vertical band saw. We have a small vise (image search revealed it is similar to a Stanley C-605). Place the part on the table of the saw and position the vise upside down with the top of the jaws flat on the table. Clamp the part and feed it through. The side of the vise used to provide a nice reference for cutting a straight line, until some students saw this trick and got a little too close to the side of the vise several times.
I've got a guy in my shop who insists on using our Do-All bandsaw that doesn't have a vise to cut round stock. He has come up with some truly mind boggling ways to keep the stock from turning in his hands and can easily spend ten minutes making some "fixture" to achieve this feat. Meanwhile we also have the Marvel saw shown in the picture which has a vise and hydraulic feed and would finish the cut before he assembled his "fixture". In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
@@StuartdeHaro we usually use this trick to hold short pieces that can't easily be held in the vise on the horizontal saw. It is also good for thin or small diameter pieces since our vertical saw has a higher TPI blade than the horizontal. The feed control on the horizontal has needed a rebuild for decades, so the only way to slow it down is to hold the saw up and lower it slowly by hand. One of these days we will find the parts to fix it.
This is a water main valve "Street key" cover. Below it was a direct buried valve probably 8-16" dia with a large square at the top. The maintenance guy would drop a long shaft with a square socket at the bottom and a large T handle at the top. A typical thread on a valve was 10 tpi, so an 8" would take 80 turns to close, but valves over 10" often have a 10:1 gear reduction on it, so that's 1600 revolutions! So to close a 16" valve you dropped the shaft down, add two 2x4x8's to the top and get 6 "volunteers' from the local jail. Use 4 to run around in circles, the two spare are to take over when the first get dizzy and fall down.
great little ideas to stick in the mental tool box...thanks for taking the time
Thanks for the tip at 2:50 I used this method to also hold a wrench. What was 1 5/8" wrench is now 1 3/4" Perfect!
Nice tips, I'll definitely use a couple of them.
Shine on.
Great ideas here. This will be helpful . Thanks.
Thanks for sharing very beneficial video 😘
The split round aluminum system is a great idea. That will be my first project next time in the shop. String trimmer line has come in handy for holding parts not quite square.
Nice tip about the trimmer line. I have about 3 lifetime supplies of it in my shed. I'll have to try that out. Thanks for watching!
The Taper Holding is one of the best! Trickiest things to hold at!
Thanks for sharing this! 😃👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Hi wow 32 mm you not messing around, that is well a giant. Well at least you used a nice color blue is also our favorite color. Before super glue we used to have to use shellac. Love the water plaque.
Thank you for the share, Lance & Patrick.
A honda civic has a 32mm axle nut! Every modern vehicle has at least a 32mm or larger nut somewhere. So not so giant lol
Fantastic video !
so,no gold watch then,also if the foreman gets this.what does the shit kicker get?????????????????????
No gold watch. Not with our budget woes. We actually make retirement presents for any retiree that wants one. I work in facilities, so we have every trade represented. Our mill shop has a stockpile of Illinois-shaped wood backs. Our sign shop does the plaque part. The shop the retiree is from will come up with an item from their trade to stick on there like the spud wrench and the water cover. We've done vernier calipers and micrometers for machinist retirees. It's not always a plaque either. A guy from the alarm shop got a beautifully painted antique fire alarm box that held... beverages. One of the mill shop workers retired recently and he was an avid cyclist, so they welded two bike frames together into an easy chair for him. Basically, if you're retiring and you weren't a total dick you'll get something nice to remember us by .
@@StuartdeHaro ......last point noted.....what about Tom and Harry ?! Lol !
Tom and Harry are fine. It's just the Dicks that get left out.
interesting stuff, some nice tips.thanks for the vid.
Nice video, very well presented. As you mentioned that you are interested the way parts are holding you may see my video #18. That Old Bob
Interesting video. It's always good to see how others overcome work holding obstacles. If similar scenarios present themselves in the future, hopefully you'll document them for another video. Thanks.
I definitely will. I have some old pics somewhere on my computer. If I can dig those up I'll do another one.
@@StuartdeHaro That would be awesome, if u haven't allready done that.
I just found ur channel and i find it extremely helpfull when I'm at the moment trying to learn to machine etc.
P.s. I'm not a native speaker (or should i say typer?) of English, but trying to learn that to at the moment.
@@SHITHITFAN I put out another video just after this one with some more odd setups. Thanks for watching!
I like the tape measure attached to milling head 😳
I had to re-watch my video to see what you were talking about. That's on the blade guard on our Marvel saw. At any given time you can find between 0 and 3 tape measures on that machine. It's always 0 when you need one though.
@@StuartdeHaro haha that's always the way. I realised afterwards that it wasnt a milling machine. I dont think a tape measure would really suffice as a replacement for a dro or hight guage
Great work sir!!
One of my favorite tricks is for holding small parts when using a standard vertical band saw. We have a small vise (image search revealed it is similar to a Stanley C-605). Place the part on the table of the saw and position the vise upside down with the top of the jaws flat on the table. Clamp the part and feed it through. The side of the vise used to provide a nice reference for cutting a straight line, until some students saw this trick and got a little too close to the side of the vise several times.
I've got a guy in my shop who insists on using our Do-All bandsaw that doesn't have a vise to cut round stock. He has come up with some truly mind boggling ways to keep the stock from turning in his hands and can easily spend ten minutes making some "fixture" to achieve this feat. Meanwhile we also have the Marvel saw shown in the picture which has a vise and hydraulic feed and would finish the cut before he assembled his "fixture". In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
@@StuartdeHaro we usually use this trick to hold short pieces that can't easily be held in the vise on the horizontal saw. It is also good for thin or small diameter pieces since our vertical saw has a higher TPI blade than the horizontal. The feed control on the horizontal has needed a rebuild for decades, so the only way to slow it down is to hold the saw up and lower it slowly by hand. One of these days we will find the parts to fix it.
Nice techniques, I especially like the two half circles holding the spud wrench. Thanks for the video
That one is really handy. I've got a couple of pieces of a larger aluminum round cut that way too. I might do something with those soon.