Ive lived and worked in this industry for 15 years, syncrude and suncor have been recliaming heavy mined areas since their excictence synrude even has a heard of bison living and thriving on its recliamed land i believe canada is leading the industry of oil production
To everyone who is getting testerical ( male version of hysterical) over calling it “tar sands:” I can recall listening to the CBC as far back as the 1970s and hearing the Alberta deposits referred to as “tar sands” as a matter of course. Calling them “oil sands” is spraying Public Relations air freshener on the issue to make it stink a little less. It’s like in the ‘90s when they tried to re-brand sewage sludge as “beneficial biosolids” so it could be applied directly to food crops.
If both tar and bitumen are synonims with asphalt why do they bitch so much that the sands don't have tar? Do they just want people to see dolar signs?
Do you knows that Canada have more Coal deposits in the ground than Australia? There is more than 600 billions tons of coal in the undergroung at 2000 m depth ( Alberta and BC) and to make it economically marketable it cost a lot of money and investment to make it happen and today with the low price of Coal it s going to stay underground.
Not a very well balanced story, I suspect heavily edited. The bitumin is natural and close to the surface. Fly down the Athabasca River, bitumen seams are everywhere, leaching into the river for centurys. Natives have used it to patch their canoes since the beginning of time. There is a reason drinking raw surface water is discouraged. It's not wise anywhere, not just Fort Chip. Everything ailment gets blamed on the oil sands. Bitumen extraction is the largesr environmental clean up operation on the planet. Have a look at the reclaimed areas.
Proud to live in oil sand country and work in oil sand sector. We restored a lot of land, planed millions of trees. Before oil sands, Athabasca river was full of bitumen and there was no any life in it. Even now when my dog goes for a swim in Athabasca river, I still find bitumen spots on him. Why don’t you guys do a documentary on Venezuela, Columbia, UAE or even USA. Canada has one of the most strict rules if it comes to protect environment and restoring land and we have a lot of native people working in oil/gas sector.
Get your numbers right. It releases 10% more. That's only because it requires another step to process. All of that land is reclaimed and will look like a forest in 30 years, there's already examples of reclaimed land. Remember that the area is SUPPOSED to be saturated in oil as it has risen to the surface naturally. The mining process actually CLEANS the area... and tailings ponds are giant mud puddles that is soil for the land, when dried, there's little to no oil. There is so much false information regarding this style of mining.
There is actually a suprising amount of bitumen in quite a few tailings ponds. Look at the new sattelite imagery of the area taken this year and you'll see the black streaks going across the ponds. The shorelines of the ponds are rimmed with bitumen. Another thing to keep in mind is not all tailings ponds are the same. You have different ponds designated for different fluids. Some of them will have all sorts of waste like sewage, fuel, etc. Others will only have recycled process water (which really isn't clean either) There is a very large effort to clean up these tailings ponds though. Big money goes into treating, disposal, and R&D of new methods/processes. It's a big problem for the industry but we're getting there. If anyone has questions about oilsands tailings, let me know.
Oil is needed from whatever source , will need a lot more in future . This green energy fad will fade away when it is apparent it wont replace fossil fuel
"I love the feel of it". "It's a wonderful place to live" Lol!! Let's see after they spent the 1st month ! Is gonna be bank loan crazy high price for cheap house built fast. With the exchange these people will barely same more than they did before without trying. That I've seen it myself
Born in Edmonton 1954 drive 20 miles north and it smell like somebodys burning their laundry or Mother in law , but we blamed Dad for ripping a stinky one
Alberta contributes billions of dollars in equalization payments to the rest of Canada every year. This pays for ridiculously cheap daycare and tuition in Quebec, unemployment benefits in the Maritimes, and infrastructure and healthcare funding everywhere. Shut down the OIL SANDS, and that money is gone forever. So, I hope Neil Young will remember THAT.
I just want the facts and those seem elusive at this point. The clay and peat will be replaced and return the landscape back to it's original condition minus the trees.
Lol... ya... this analysis is total crap. This reviewer knows or basically understands nothing she is talking about. Oh and PS - the mining for all minerals to produce batteries and rare earth minerals to produce all electronics... looks the same. Except they are rarely returned to a fully re-established forest ecosystem - unlike the oil sands mine areas. Which are 100% reclaimed back to the same forest eco-system. Why - because the boreal forest trees have a natural burn cycle that burns them to barren tundra every 10-30 years anyway so they completely regrow to boreal forest in 10 years after reclamation anyway. Leaving no visible sign the area was ever mined... But these are the actual facts. And yes - the tailings ponds are reclaimed also. But not until the water is re-used in the plant for life of plant. Oh and Canada is 10 million sq km’s. So an area the size of NY - you wouldn’t even find on a map of the northern boreal forest without great assistance as it’s a thumb print on a map big enough to cover a 10 ft sq wall.
Cleanest oil products in the world,,, the rest of the world is Envious on how well it's operated... free for the pickings since it's coming right out of the ground... it's actually cleaning up the world so it's not exposed leaching into the atmosphere... companies from all around the world and the native bands are making big returns on their investments... Go Canada go...
Do people who work for these sorts of corporations actually live in the areas affected by their activities? E.g. Greg Stringham at 7:44, a classic example of a 'company man'.
Fort Mac Murray Alberta is where most of these people live the industry is very clean and only 15Litres of water is used for. 50. Gallons of oil this water mix is cleaned and replenished Canada’s oil is the cleanest of the world
so many factual errors here. #1 its oil in sand, not tar. #2 it's not the only source of oil in Alberta. #3 the Athabasca river is washing away at the sand/oil layer this very minute. #4 this source of oil is not dirty, it is thick and 100% organic and natural. #5 The "pollution" is in fact steam or water vapor. steam is used to heat the oil and separate it from the sand. The ongoing set of errors here is so incredible this report lacks any credibility.
Oh for god sakes! Fort McMurray oil sands are a reclamation! They are cleaning it up and have been for decades! If they weren’t doing it you would have lakes of oil!
@Blanche Durand Fort McMurray is a reclamation project that has been going on for years. The ground keeps burping oil out and basically we keep cleaning it up. If it wasn’t for the hard working Albertans and people from across Canada doing the work to clean it up it would be an ocean of oil! Think about it! Don’t speak if you don’t know! And also this commented on 3 years ago, Fort McMurray has been around for decades, do the math!
@Blanche Durand how can you say it’s polluting when it’s a natural resource and the earth creates it over and over and over again. My recommendation to you is get rid of everything you have that’s made from it and go live in the bush.
All who got the on jet fueled sucking planes, why dont they lobby and protest in there own Country against their people using fossil fuels? Is America exempt from all of this, I think not.
Imagine a gigantic oil tanker carrying trillions of gallons of 'Bitumen' spilled its contents all over the center of Alberta. Now we have to go there, clean the sand of all of that messy stuff, and put the sand back in a 'CLEANED' condition. That is basically what we are doing here in Canada = a gigantic oil spill cleanup project.
Yah, I get it, ElectroVDub: 'tailings ponds are just giant mudpuddles', 'so much false information', 'mining process actually cleans the area' 'it'll all be forest again in 30 years' - Plainsman1300: 'CO2 is a necessity of life, everybody needs it so what's the problem here?' Talk about deluded people here they are in all their glory, what's problem with CO2, imagine that, no problem at all my boy, none, plants eat it, we eat it, no problem at all except fact that 'excess CO2' is how the planet heats up - get it, excess CO2 causes the heat up, get it yet? Bottom line here, absolute bottom, 8 billion consumers use a lot, very lot more oil than 2 billion consumers and as long as nobody wishes to control population raping the planet will continue, will continue until the 'implosion' which will come, and soon!
Yes I caught that mistake about Provincial Capital verses the reference to say a US state. This is a British media prod. So give leeway on content. Myself I was born in Alberta ,lived their till 17 @ moved to the USA . My father was a life long Oilman who I guess you could of said was a visionary for his time. He told my mom and l clear back in 1975 ,that the Shah of Iran was going to be ousted or dethroned way before others even thought of it. My point of this is we never talked of the Tar Sands or other petroleum projects as I recall, or maybe we did ? Hell it was 43 yrs ago . Yes people can tell you the good of things too our Society.But as far as the bad it is all Theory or Speculation,as to what will or could happen. In closing we are still humans @ I for one don't think we know everything yet or ever will.
Just bring two glasses, one with water and another one with crude oil. Offer them to anybody and ask which one they would like to drink. Simple as that!
@Blanche Durand are you fucking retarded, the oil is literally found naturally in the SAND of the river . I see pure bitumen leaking out of sides of the river banks on hot days. Holy fuck think before you post a comment
If you get a bit of honesty re-do this video with CO2 left out of the output,. CO2 is not risk, it is a necessity for life,. Plants consume it like humans breath oxygen, without CO2 the world would starve.
You are clearly lacking any clue as to the facts. BC pulp mils pollute rivers at an incredible rate. If you don't like it stop using anything made from oil! No driving a car, no new tires, no cool whip, no Vaseline, no Ipnones, computers, no consuming foods brought by trucks, no flying anywhere on vacation. The list is endless. Welcome to the stone age moron.
Ive lived and worked in this industry for 15 years, syncrude and suncor have been recliaming heavy mined areas since their excictence synrude even has a heard of bison living and thriving on its recliamed land i believe canada is leading the industry of oil production
"...the state capital Edmonton..." Well at least she got the name right.
To everyone who is getting testerical ( male version of hysterical) over calling it “tar sands:” I can recall listening to the CBC as far back as the 1970s and hearing the Alberta deposits referred to as “tar sands” as a matter of course. Calling them “oil sands” is spraying Public Relations air freshener on the issue to make it stink a little less. It’s like in the ‘90s when they tried to re-brand sewage sludge as “beneficial biosolids” so it could be applied directly to food crops.
Stunned moron.
If both tar and bitumen are synonims with asphalt why do they bitch so much that the sands don't have tar? Do they just want people to see dolar signs?
Meanwhile, Australia is the world's fifth-largest producer of coal - 450 million tons annually.
But let's dogpile on Alberta.
Do you knows that Canada have more Coal deposits in the ground than Australia? There is more than 600 billions tons of coal in the undergroung at 2000 m depth ( Alberta and BC) and to make it economically marketable it cost a lot of money and investment to make it happen and today with the low price of Coal it s going to stay underground.
Not a very well balanced story, I suspect heavily edited. The bitumin is natural and close to the surface. Fly down the Athabasca River, bitumen seams are everywhere, leaching into the river for centurys. Natives have used it to patch their canoes since the beginning of time. There is a reason drinking raw surface water is discouraged. It's not wise anywhere, not just Fort Chip. Everything ailment gets blamed on the oil sands. Bitumen extraction is the largesr environmental clean up operation on the planet. Have a look at the reclaimed areas.
Proud to live in oil sand country and work in oil sand sector. We restored a lot of land, planed millions of trees. Before oil sands, Athabasca river was full of bitumen and there was no any life in it. Even now when my dog goes for a swim in Athabasca river, I still find bitumen spots on him. Why don’t you guys do a documentary on Venezuela, Columbia, UAE or even USA. Canada has one of the most strict rules if it comes to protect environment and restoring land and we have a lot of native people working in oil/gas sector.
Even the dead from respiratory disease are employed.
Get your numbers right. It releases 10% more. That's only because it requires another step to process. All of that land is reclaimed and will look like a forest in 30 years, there's already examples of reclaimed land. Remember that the area is SUPPOSED to be saturated in oil as it has risen to the surface naturally. The mining process actually CLEANS the area... and tailings ponds are giant mud puddles that is soil for the land, when dried, there's little to no oil. There is so much false information regarding this style of mining.
There is actually a suprising amount of bitumen in quite a few tailings ponds. Look at the new sattelite imagery of the area taken this year and you'll see the black streaks going across the ponds. The shorelines of the ponds are rimmed with bitumen.
Another thing to keep in mind is not all tailings ponds are the same. You have different ponds designated for different fluids. Some of them will have all sorts of waste like sewage, fuel, etc. Others will only have recycled process water (which really isn't clean either)
There is a very large effort to clean up these tailings ponds though. Big money goes into treating, disposal, and R&D of new methods/processes.
It's a big problem for the industry but we're getting there. If anyone has questions about oilsands tailings, let me know.
Oil is needed from whatever source , will need a lot more in future . This green energy fad will fade away when it is apparent it wont replace fossil fuel
"I love the feel of it". "It's a wonderful place to live" Lol!! Let's see after they spent the 1st month ! Is gonna be bank loan crazy high price for cheap house built fast. With the exchange these people will barely same more than they did before without trying. That I've seen it myself
Lol, Ok. You never worked for one of the oil companies in Fort McMurray. Most likely a contractor company.
@@blackaria2011drug dealers make alot tgere
Oh they will most definitely have to answer the ultimate question in time. The consequences...they can't imagine.
Also you could never drink water of est fish from the athabasca because oil was always leaching frontage banks into the water
This is where Canada needs to throw their garbage and not in the oceans or other countries
Born in Edmonton 1954 drive 20 miles north and it smell like somebodys burning their laundry or Mother in law , but we blamed Dad for ripping a stinky one
Alberta contributes billions of dollars in equalization payments to the rest of Canada every year. This pays for ridiculously cheap daycare and tuition in Quebec, unemployment benefits in the Maritimes, and infrastructure and healthcare funding everywhere. Shut down the OIL SANDS, and that money is gone forever. So, I hope Neil Young will remember THAT.
neil young is just another socialist brain dead pundit, if he had any sense he would keep his uninformed opinions to himself...
Yeah this oil is feeding lazy quebecers
I just want the facts and those seem elusive at this point. The clay and peat will be replaced and return the landscape back to it's original condition minus the trees.
Lol... ya... this analysis is total crap.
This reviewer knows or basically understands nothing she is talking about.
Oh and PS - the mining for all minerals to produce batteries and rare earth minerals to produce all electronics... looks the same. Except they are rarely returned to a fully re-established forest ecosystem - unlike the oil sands mine areas. Which are 100% reclaimed back to the same forest eco-system.
Why - because the boreal forest trees have a natural burn cycle that burns them to barren tundra every 10-30 years anyway so they completely regrow to boreal forest in 10 years after reclamation anyway. Leaving no visible sign the area was ever mined...
But these are the actual facts.
And yes - the tailings ponds are reclaimed also. But not until the water is re-used in the plant for life of plant.
Oh and Canada is 10 million sq km’s. So an area the size of NY - you wouldn’t even find on a map of the northern boreal forest without great assistance as it’s a thumb print on a map big enough to cover a 10 ft sq wall.
And not to mention the slave labour used in the battery mining industry all over the world in mostly 3rd world countries.
Cleanest oil products in the world,,, the rest of the world is Envious on how well it's operated... free for the pickings since it's coming right out of the ground... it's actually cleaning up the world so it's not exposed leaching into the atmosphere... companies from all around the world and the native bands are making big returns on their investments... Go Canada go...
Do people who work for these sorts of corporations actually live in the areas affected by their activities? E.g. Greg Stringham at 7:44, a classic example of a 'company man'.
Fort Mac Murray Alberta is where most of these people live the industry is very clean and only 15Litres of water is used for. 50. Gallons of oil this water mix is cleaned and replenished Canada’s oil is the cleanest of the world
I live there, best air quality ive ever experienced. Much better than cities full of environmentalists
so many factual errors here. #1 its oil in sand, not tar. #2 it's not the only source of oil in Alberta. #3 the Athabasca river is washing away at the sand/oil layer this very minute. #4 this source of oil is not dirty, it is thick and 100% organic and natural. #5 The "pollution" is in fact steam or water vapor. steam is used to heat the oil and separate it from the sand.
The ongoing set of errors here is so incredible this report lacks any credibility.
Good documentary.
Not true they got so much shit wrong
“ It’s bad for the environment but good for the economy “ 😢
Celeny Rosales = It's good for your purse, but will make you sick and die, so you never get to spend the money in your purse.
I work in this industry, have been for 15 year. You can be against oil and gas exploration all u want but u still rely heavy on it so you're welcome
@@miketilley3930 In canada?
Oh for god sakes! Fort McMurray oil sands are a reclamation! They are cleaning it up and have been for decades! If they weren’t doing it you would have lakes of oil!
@Blanche Durand Fort McMurray is a reclamation project that has been going on for years. The ground keeps burping oil out and basically we keep cleaning it up. If it wasn’t for the hard working Albertans and people from across Canada doing the work to clean it up it would be an ocean of oil! Think about it! Don’t speak if you don’t know! And also this commented on 3 years ago, Fort McMurray has been around for decades, do the math!
@Blanche Durand how can you say it’s polluting when it’s a natural resource and the earth creates it over and over and over again. My recommendation to you is get rid of everything you have that’s made from it and go live in the bush.
Sagd isn't more carbon Intensive because the steam is made using nat gas and Nat gas burns clean
Dirty oil from clean gas
Would be great if Canada could solve the tar sands problem(s). It's hard to ignore 171 billion barrels of proven oil reserves in your own backyard!
And when they’re all done they are gonna clean everything allll up.
Because they care.
The oil sands have attracted a lot of paid-for celebrity environmentalists. Neil Young, Dicaprio,Jane Fonda.
All who got the on jet fueled sucking planes, why dont they lobby and protest in there own Country against their people using fossil fuels? Is America exempt from all of this, I think not.
Imagine a gigantic oil tanker carrying trillions of gallons of 'Bitumen' spilled its contents all over the center of Alberta. Now we have to go there, clean the sand of all of that messy stuff, and put the sand back in a 'CLEANED' condition. That is basically what we are doing here in Canada = a gigantic oil spill cleanup project.
How inspiring.
impressive response..thx
more like an environmental disaster! driving away countless species of wildlife, good job.
@@nakulah wouldn't the wildlife have left anyway?
Fusion energy is the future.
600 million a year, that's the pricetag to rape a reserve of all its resources. Not to bad, how can i buy shares?
As soon as i see or hear "TAR" Sands...all credibility is destroyed...It's oilsands....silly.
Yeah, and the PR term for sewage sludge is “beneficial biosolids.” Spinning it doesn’t make it any cleaner.
Safer than the bs coming out of the middle east
6:16 not the best place to put the camera
Yah, I get it, ElectroVDub: 'tailings ponds are just giant mudpuddles', 'so much false information', 'mining process actually cleans the area' 'it'll all be forest again in 30 years' - Plainsman1300: 'CO2 is a necessity of life, everybody needs it so what's the problem here?' Talk about deluded people here they are in all their glory, what's problem with CO2, imagine that, no problem at all my boy, none, plants eat it, we eat it, no problem at all except fact that 'excess CO2' is how the planet heats up - get it, excess CO2 causes the heat up, get it yet? Bottom line here, absolute bottom, 8 billion consumers use a lot, very lot more oil than 2 billion consumers and as long as nobody wishes to control population raping the planet will continue, will continue until the 'implosion' which will come, and soon!
Yes I caught that mistake about Provincial Capital verses the reference to say a US state. This is a British media prod. So give leeway on content. Myself I was born in Alberta ,lived their till 17 @ moved to the USA . My father was a life long Oilman who I guess you could of said was a visionary for his time. He told my mom and l clear back in 1975 ,that the Shah of Iran was going to be ousted or dethroned way before others even thought of it. My point of this is we never talked of the Tar Sands or other petroleum projects as I recall, or maybe we did ? Hell it was 43 yrs ago . Yes people can tell you the good of things too our Society.But as far as the bad it is all Theory or Speculation,as to what will or could happen. In closing we are still humans @ I for one don't think we know everything yet or ever will.
Provence. Alberta is a provence. In Canada. Not a state.
If u are going to comment at least spell province right
@@miketilley3930 😂
BULD SOME REFINERIES TO UPGRADE THE SLUDGE FOR LESS DISCOUNTS HAHA LEANING ON OTHER COUNTRIES YOUR WEALTH
Just bring two glasses, one with water and another one with crude oil. Offer them to anybody and ask which one they would like to drink. Simple as that!
why the fuck would someone drink crude oil
@@blanchedurand9009 oil seeps out of the banks of the river, and has been for thousands of years
@Blanche Durand are you fucking retarded, the oil is literally found naturally in the SAND of the river . I see pure bitumen leaking out of sides of the river banks on hot days. Holy fuck think before you post a comment
CO2 is healthy! There is no danger.
If you get a bit of honesty re-do this video with CO2 left out of the output,.
CO2 is not risk, it is a necessity for life,. Plants consume it like humans breath oxygen, without CO2 the world would starve.
Wake up. There are nearly no plants left to consume it.
Oh, brother! That's like saying, "Sunlight gives life and Vitamin D so let us all lie out in the sun without any sunscreen protection."
Meanwhile back in Alberta-Nothing like a breath of Alberta Air to give you the HIGHWAY 63 BLUES ruclips.net/video/oljPxBlHyJs/видео.html
These refineries are pollution Alberta! Glad I live in BC!
You are clearly lacking any clue as to the facts. BC pulp mils pollute rivers at an incredible rate. If you don't like it stop using anything made from oil! No driving a car, no new tires, no cool whip, no Vaseline, no Ipnones, computers, no consuming foods brought by trucks, no flying anywhere on vacation. The list is endless. Welcome to the stone age moron.
Mr young...I guess you've never been to Chernobyl