Been using the rf venue passive split with my 3 galaxy audio 950 iem systems to combine 2 units that are in the 400 frequency range. so far its worked well in venues with up to 500 person crowds
Once again, very useful reviews and tutorials. You're the man, Scott! I'm pretty sure I'll be able to make a reasonably priced solution for my band (in France) thanks to your very cool videos. So, once again, thank you very much for that, sir. Cheers from France!
I’ve got the AC41 with 4 systems, but am going to add one more IEM system. Do you think I could use this for the 5th and combine the output of the AC41 and the 5th system with the overall output going to the directional paddle?
I don’t believe you would want to do it for something that transmits like an IEM system AND something that receives like a microphone. Just one or the other (so multiple IEMs or multiple mics)
Hi Scott. I know that this is not exactly the subject of this video, but I have a question that's related so I thought I could ask for help here. I've had the opportunity to get an sennheiser antenna splitter Asa 1 for free! I intend to use it for my 3 dual-channel in-ear monitor system. Reducing my 6 antennas to 2. Is it appropriate? If it is, should I connect the antennas to the RF ant in or to the RF ant out? Sorry to bother, and thanks.
How are your two separate systems installed in one space in your rack? Are they just connected by the rack side mounts and the center just pushed together? Thanks for all you do!
Would a dual antenna device ( Phenyx Pro ptg 11) be better with the dual antennas mounted on the front of a rack or combined into one? Would you have to use the splitter/combiner like you have or would a tee connector suffice? Thanks so much!
Great video! those antennas you have up at the top of the rack is just for the router right? it has nothing to do with the in-ears correct?...do you have a separate rack for the wireless mics? how do you connect between them? just through the splitter? why don't you have just 1 rack with in-ears and wireless mics? because it will have too many antennas? thanks!
Yup that’s just for the Wi-Fi router, that’s it. And yes a separate rack for the mics, and I connect with the splitter. I separate them because it would be too big to fit in my car, but separating transmitter and receiver antennas are usually smart
This is so timely so thanks for this. I just had an outdoor show last Thurs where our rack was off stage and not line of sight, and my in ears kept dropping out. Luckily one of the sound guys had the Sennheiser omnidirectional one which saved me. Question, based on the Sennheiser vid I bought the clip, BNC cables, and bought the Phenyx PAS-82 antennas (Reg price $130 for a pair) without the actual PAS-225X system, since the PAS-82 specs say they work within the 400-950 MHz range. In theory, this same application should work, correct?
Perfect! Looking at getting a combiner soon so it was great to see the passive option and understand that, I'll have to go with Active though. Just not sure if I can use Sure psm 300s with the G4 sennheiser iem and the active sennheiser combiner that supplies power. But I know that's the way to go! Cheers!
I just built a 4 system passive combine for two psm300’s and a G3 and G4 Sennheiser system. Now our rack lives on the stage and very close to us so it doesn’t need to go far, and it has work great with the Sennheiser omnidirectional passive antenna. I still have to run all the power supplies but it has worked extremely well so far.
I just ordered the sennheiser AC 41 combiner with the A1030 U anntena. Hopefully it works out. I will have Three, G4 IEMs and run my EW wireless guitar system in there too.
No, it just needs to be within the same frequency range of the antenna. Mine was 470-1000mhz (or something like that) so as long as my wireless were in that range it was good to go 👍
What is your thought on Sennheiser ASP212? It is a passive splitter designed for up to 4 antennas input and 2 outputs so in theory it should be an active splitter. I am asking because I am planning to join 4 antennas into 2. Two bnc cables from Sennheiser EW100 G3 and two from Sennheiser EW100 G4 will go into the splitter and then two bnc cables will go into my front rack panel where I will connect two antennas.
I have a PTM-10 and a PGT-11 and the cabling they use is called TNC. It’s widely available as are adapters that convert from BNC to TNC. I hope I’m right on this cause I have 2 TNC cables coming to put the antennas in the front of my rack. Fingers crossed!
Hey Scott. So I know you said not to combine more than 2 antenna, but in my idea I wouldn’t be combining more than two types. I would need to combine 2 antenna from 2 in ear transmitters, as you do in this video, but I would also need to combine two antenna on a wireless microphone receiver. Each combination would go to a different directional antenna and since one is a transmitting signal and the other is a receiving signal, I don’t believe i’d have any issues. LMK your thoughts! Thanks in advance.
I don’t use enough in that frequency range, so I’m not sure. I would be cautious on using too much on 2.4ghz…. Even with an antenna combiner. But I do know that Shure makes one. It’s for their GLXD+ system
If we have 5 total band members, and the drummer is going to get his ears directly out from the digital mixer, and the other 4 of us need IEM systems, would it be recommended to use two antennas and 2 separate passive splitters so that we could combine the signal for the two IEMs for the stage left performers into one antenna and the two IEMs for the stage right performers into a separate antenna simultaneously?
You could do that yes. Or you can get an active combiner and use one antenna. Might cost basically the same anyways, and then you just have one antenna
@ScottUhlMusic is there another antenna I can use with my sennheiser xsw iem system. The directional antenna is $350. Is there another cheaper route like the sennheiser ewd dipole antenna? Will that work to extend the range?
Could you please help me out.. I’m using my iPhone as my camera and sound for TikTok channel to go live for DJing ..then I’m using MIDi pioneer mixer with android tablet running WeDJ.. I want to send sound from midi or android tablet into the iPhone 12 Pro .. Appel camera adapter is not working for me as I did try even Thank you I’m going crazy with this set up
So now I wonder: in your video about the Sennheiser omnidirectional antenna, you say that it makes sense to use omnidirectional because the rack lives by the drummer and need to reach everyone on stage. Did you move to directional because that system didnt work well, or just because you needed more content/product to sell?
😂 lol dude, if you truly think that, please don’t watch my channel. I have both antennas now in a case. If the rack is on the side of the stage I use the directional antenna. If it’s near the drummer, I use the Omni. Part of production for live events is having backups and/or options that best suit the setup. Next time, just ask and I’d be more than happy to help. Don’t be a douche 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Seems douchy to insult me without actually answering my question, not for me to ask one. Omnidirectional and directional cant both be an upgrade from each other. If you quit using one to use the other, it would have to be either because the first one actually didnt work well - in which case, you would be a douche for continuing to use that video to sell them - or... the second one doesnt work as well as the first - which would make you a douche for affiliate selling that one when it actually didnt work as well as the first. One of those is clearly true. So who is the real douche here?
Side note - love the swissonic router. We added one to our rack not long ago and they are great!
Nice! Glad you like it. That thing works extremely well!
Thanks very much, Scott ! Super useful and crystal clear!
Thank you!
Been using the rf venue passive split with my 3 galaxy audio 950 iem systems to combine 2 units that are in the 400 frequency range. so far its worked well in venues with up to 500 person crowds
Nice! Glad it’s worked well!
Fantastic information. 👌🏽👌🏽
Thanks 😊
Once again, very useful reviews and tutorials. You're the man, Scott! I'm pretty sure I'll be able to make a reasonably priced solution for my band (in France) thanks to your very cool videos. So, once again, thank you very much for that, sir. Cheers from France!
Thanks! I appreciate it! Cheers from the USA. I did a Europe tour in 2019 and Lyon was one of my favorite spots
@@ScottUhlMusic if you ever come back and go near Toulouse, I'll be happy to come and see you, and buy you a drink!
I’ve got the AC41 with 4 systems, but am going to add one more IEM system. Do you think I could use this for the 5th and combine the output of the AC41 and the 5th system with the overall output going to the directional paddle?
Hmmm interesting…. I haven’t thought of that, so I don’t actually know the answer to that
Love it thanks so much greetings from Mexico I will use this for my in ear monitor and a jts microphone thank you
I don’t believe you would want to do it for something that transmits like an IEM system AND something that receives like a microphone. Just one or the other (so multiple IEMs or multiple mics)
@@ScottUhlMusicoh ok I understand makes total sense thank you
One last question sorry I was getting ready to buy some cables but say some were 50ohm and the other was 75ohm which one should I get
Awesome stuff here bro
Thanks Andrew 🤘 glad to have the approval from a fellow RF/wireless nerd like me 😅
Hi Scott.
I know that this is not exactly the subject of this video, but I have a question that's related so I thought I could ask for help here.
I've had the opportunity to get an sennheiser antenna splitter Asa 1 for free! I intend to use it for my 3 dual-channel in-ear monitor system. Reducing my 6 antennas to 2. Is it appropriate? If it is, should I connect the antennas to the RF ant in or to the RF ant out?
Sorry to bother, and thanks.
I believe that one is meant for wireless mics/guitars. But I could be wrong
Ok. Thanks. I'll try it next week and let you know. 😉👍
thanks for sharing it!
May I use 1:40 cenario?
I intend to use it with two sennheiser EW-D microphone systems (two antennas, two splitters, two EW-D)
How are your two separate systems installed in one space in your rack? Are they just connected by the rack side mounts and the center just pushed together?
Thanks for all you do!
Yup, just the 1/2u rack side for each of them 👍
Would a dual antenna device ( Phenyx Pro ptg 11) be better with the dual antennas mounted on the front of a rack or combined into one? Would you have to use the splitter/combiner like you have or would a tee connector suffice?
Thanks so much!
No, that wouldn’t be helpful, because I believe that’s a dual diversity antenna system, and part of the benefit is having two antennas for that 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks dude!
Great video! those antennas you have up at the top of the rack is just for the router right? it has nothing to do with the in-ears correct?...do you have a separate rack for the wireless mics? how do you connect between them? just through the splitter? why don't you have just 1 rack with in-ears and wireless mics? because it will have too many antennas? thanks!
Yup that’s just for the Wi-Fi router, that’s it. And yes a separate rack for the mics, and I connect with the splitter. I separate them because it would be too big to fit in my car, but separating transmitter and receiver antennas are usually smart
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks!
Are the IEM units secured in the middle in any way? Do they move around at all or is that safe enough?
They are nice and secure 👍
Will analog TV antenna splitters work for wireless mikes?
You should use the cables and splitters I mentioned in this video
This is so timely so thanks for this. I just had an outdoor show last Thurs where our rack was off stage and not line of sight, and my in ears kept dropping out. Luckily one of the sound guys had the Sennheiser omnidirectional one which saved me. Question, based on the Sennheiser vid I bought the clip, BNC cables, and bought the Phenyx PAS-82 antennas (Reg price $130 for a pair) without the actual PAS-225X system, since the PAS-82 specs say they work within the 400-950 MHz range. In theory, this same application should work, correct?
Those are active antennas though, so they will need the extra power. For this, you need passive antennas
Ahhhhhh, I see. I’ll have to grab the Sennheiser or Shure one then. Thank you!
Hey do you have anything on a multiple say 10 Wireless headset body pack and receiver splitter and antenna set up?
You would want to get an active antenna combiner for something like that 👍
Perfect! Looking at getting a combiner soon so it was great to see the passive option and understand that, I'll have to go with Active though. Just not sure if I can use Sure psm 300s with the G4 sennheiser iem and the active sennheiser combiner that supplies power. But I know that's the way to go!
Cheers!
As long as they are in the same frequency band, you should be good! 🤘
I just built a 4 system passive combine for two psm300’s and a G3 and G4 Sennheiser system. Now our rack lives on the stage and very close to us so it doesn’t need to go far, and it has work great with the Sennheiser omnidirectional passive antenna. I still have to run all the power supplies but it has worked extremely well so far.
I just ordered the sennheiser AC 41 combiner with the A1030 U anntena. Hopefully it works out. I will have Three, G4 IEMs and run my EW wireless guitar system in there too.
Hi Scott, does the frequency of the transmitters have to be the same frequency?
No, it just needs to be within the same frequency range of the antenna. Mine was 470-1000mhz (or something like that) so as long as my wireless were in that range it was good to go 👍
What is your thought on Sennheiser ASP212? It is a passive splitter designed for up to 4 antennas input and 2 outputs so in theory it should be an active splitter. I am asking because I am planning to join 4 antennas into 2. Two bnc cables from Sennheiser EW100 G3 and two from Sennheiser EW100 G4 will go into the splitter and then two bnc cables will go into my front rack panel where I will connect two antennas.
Hmmm…. I’ll have to look at that. I did a quick search and there is not a whole lot of info on it.
@@ScottUhlMusic Great! :) I've edited my comment and added some more info on my future simplification :)
What specific BNC cable do you recommend for the PTM-10?
Probably the one that it comes with would work best. Kind of annoying that it’s not just a standard cable
I have a PTM-10 and a PGT-11 and the cabling they use is called TNC. It’s widely available as are adapters that convert from BNC to TNC. I hope I’m right on this cause I have 2 TNC cables coming to put the antennas in the front of my rack. Fingers crossed!
Scott, can I do this with two Sennheiser G4 instrument systems? Total of four antennas
You would need to have 2 of these antennas and combiners but yes 👍 passive can only be done with 2, so 4 antennas would be just this but done twice
@@ScottUhlMusic Awesome! All my IEM’s are on an active combiner, didn’t think I’d need an active distributor for just two instrument units
Hey Scott. So I know you said not to combine more than 2 antenna, but in my idea I wouldn’t be combining more than two types. I would need to combine 2 antenna from 2 in ear transmitters, as you do in this video, but I would also need to combine two antenna on a wireless microphone receiver. Each combination would go to a different directional antenna and since one is a transmitting signal and the other is a receiving signal, I don’t believe i’d have any issues. LMK your thoughts! Thanks in advance.
Yeah you would need to do two separate combiners… one for the receivers and one for the transmitters. They can’t be together 👍
Each system can still be on its own frequencies right??
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Haha yup
any antenna recommendations for 2.4/5ghz?
I don’t use enough in that frequency range, so I’m not sure. I would be cautious on using too much on 2.4ghz…. Even with an antenna combiner. But I do know that Shure makes one. It’s for their GLXD+ system
If we have 5 total band members, and the drummer is going to get his ears directly out from the digital mixer, and the other 4 of us need IEM systems, would it be recommended to use two antennas and 2 separate passive splitters so that we could combine the signal for the two IEMs for the stage left performers into one antenna and the two IEMs for the stage right performers into a separate antenna simultaneously?
You could do that yes. Or you can get an active combiner and use one antenna. Might cost basically the same anyways, and then you just have one antenna
Do I need an rf splitter if I'm just running one iem rig? Or can I hook up the directional antenna with the bnc cable extension?
No, if you aren’t combining or splitting you don’t need the combiner/splitter
@ScottUhlMusic is there another antenna I can use with my sennheiser xsw iem system. The directional antenna is $350. Is there another cheaper route like the sennheiser ewd dipole antenna? Will that work to extend the range?
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Could you please help me out.. I’m using my iPhone as my camera and sound for TikTok channel to go live for DJing ..then I’m using MIDi pioneer mixer with android tablet running WeDJ.. I want to send sound from midi or android tablet into the iPhone 12 Pro ..
Appel camera adapter is not working for me as I did try even
Thank you
I’m going crazy with this set up
I’m not familiar with that setup. But look into the WIDI stuff I’ve reviewed on my channel for wireless midi to Bluetooth to a phone/tablet
@@ScottUhlMusic thank you I’ll keep searching
I wonder how passive and active antenna differ
I mention it in this video 👍
So now I wonder: in your video about the Sennheiser omnidirectional antenna, you say that it makes sense to use omnidirectional because the rack lives by the drummer and need to reach everyone on stage. Did you move to directional because that system didnt work well, or just because you needed more content/product to sell?
😂 lol dude, if you truly think that, please don’t watch my channel.
I have both antennas now in a case. If the rack is on the side of the stage I use the directional antenna. If it’s near the drummer, I use the Omni.
Part of production for live events is having backups and/or options that best suit the setup. Next time, just ask and I’d be more than happy to help. Don’t be a douche 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Seems douchy to insult me without actually answering my question, not for me to ask one. Omnidirectional and directional cant both be an upgrade from each other. If you quit using one to use the other, it would have to be either because the first one actually didnt work well - in which case, you would be a douche for continuing to use that video to sell them - or... the second one doesnt work as well as the first - which would make you a douche for affiliate selling that one when it actually didnt work as well as the first. One of those is clearly true. So who is the real douche here?