interesting discovery ,I had the chassis of my RPRR ceracoated ,when I reassembled the rifle I found that all the slop in mag release mechanism and the mag were totally eliminated ,the thin layer of ceracoat was just enough to take up all the slop in the mechanism , big improvement all round .not everyone wants to ceracoat their new rifle , but it worked for me
Interesting concept for a rim fire and feeding consistency. My field target .177 PCPs (BSA R10, Umarex Gauntlet) both use a rotary mag and a single shot tray. I get much better accuracy with a single shot tray.
i am ocd a gunsmith of 6 years have a rprr and property i shoot weekly....i also have had a lot of ideas on how and why the rprr has the problems that it does.... and have seen most of your videos and cant wait to get one i feel this gun can go a long way bc of ppl like you trying to make products that it needs and ppl want!
It's a nice platform. I feel the furniture has a bit too much flex, and the machining work suffered as Ruger tried to keep up with initial demand. Overall, I feel that the rifle is sound, and we'll see it really come into it's own as a precision platform. It's been a fun yet frustrating time fitting a solution to what has seemed to be a bit of a moving target that is the RPRR. I'm fairly certain we've got it now. Time will tell.
@@47productsllc78 its even more of a problem with a real match chambered barrel i have a er shaw on mine and it makes most of the problems worse.....i have had to come up with a way of getting the round out of the mag sooner than stock....if you file back sum of the lips in a special way you can get the round to jump up in to the bolt face and be held straight in to the chamber when running the bolt slow.....with no marks but wont kick last round out so i use a dummy in place of the last round....this is not a good fix as why i have not made a video on it yet... i hope to get a mag fix nailed down and a titanium firing pin built...all in good time hope your sled comes out soon!
Would like to have one someday, I live in North Ohio too. Rain sucks this year! Great product idea for the Ruger Precision rifle!!! Thanks for taking the time and creating something to improve it!
Shooting Fields I to live in northern Ohio north west to be precise I have a rain coat maybe you could get one and you and I can get together and you can shoot my Ruger precision rifle
A very good idea. I love single shot rifles have been looking for a 22Mag. for years, found one in a pawn shop the owner would not give me a price, went in one day and it was gone. If you ever make some of these for the 22 mag. I will buy one no matter the price.
I got a rpr the 10 shot mag is not ejecting from the mag release so I bought a 10,22 mag and I find it very good no slop ,the old ramline mags fit very well ,there old vintage mags they fit very well in the rpr no problum I like your review very much thankyou
I seen a few RUclips comments about the feeding problems with the ruger precision rimfire using the bx15 mag. I shoots only cci subsonic. It's probably 600 rounds from new, maybe more. The gun is about 3 months old. I haven't experience feeding issue. It does wiggle a bit tho. I would be interested in trying out your invention. Thanks for making this video👍
If you order, make sure to let me know what order yours is so I can get the correct part substituted. Just DM me here or via the 47 Products, LLC Facebook page.
The ruger precision rimfire is my favorite gun i own. I try to get to the range 3 times a month. I would love to test this product. I shoot at 100 yards and shoot for sub moa groups with bulk ammo. I would be happy to pay shipping to try this product. I have heard from several people, about the scarring on the first few rounds in the higher capacity magazines.
Hey, thanks for your interest. As you can see, I'm not good at replying to RUclips comments. We completed testing a couple months after this video released and are in full production. They're available to order off our 47 Products website.
My rimfire RPR had horrible mag “wobble”, I replaced the mag release spring with a much stiffer spring and problem solved. I believe KIDD makes a stiffer spring.
I've heard that people have done that. Did you get an extended mag release arm to go with it too? If not, how stiff is the mag release with the stronger spring? Personally, for me the mag fitment issues is just one reason I use the trays. More than that, it's just convenient for shooting. I'll stay in the glass and shoot without having to stop to reload mags. Pretty much any time I'm shooting off a bench, I've got a tray in my rifle.
47 Products, LLC no new extended mag release. All original parts save for the spring. It is about 50-75 percent stiffer. Stopped the misfeeds completely.
My suggestion for the RPR in .22 feeding issue my suggestion being a owner of both RPR in .22Lr & 6.5 creedmoor is too send it too ruger or your local gunsmith they can fix the chassis instead of messing with the mags👍🏽
Even with perfect lockup, I love shooting off a sled. Any time I'm shooting off a bench, I'm shooting off a sled. I don't feed mags. It's just more efficient and, my experience shows, there are fewer flyers. I attribute this to it being easier on the round so fewer mars on the bullet face, but I've got nothing buy my own targets to go by. Elfsters Rifles and Reloading did a video where he tested too. I'd invite others that have them to share their results.
Ordered one and never got it! Ordered it like 4 months ago! How long does it take and ship? I have a pic of the invoice but can’t load it here. Ordered it July 6th.
I bought my rpr December a year ago so December 2020 I got a hundred yard range 50 yd outside my front door and I'm retired I'm a retired Navy Chief and I have all the time in the world I wouldn't mind doing some testing for you if you still need somebody thanks Bob
I've had a handful of requests, but at this time I'm not planning on developing one. Not to say we won't, but the requests have been so infrequent that it just doesn't seem to be enough of a market to justify the development cots. If I get enough requests, say 100 or so, I'll consider it. So far, I've seen about a dozen.
Why do you have the super high see through mounts on a weapon not equipped with iron sights ? Getting the scope closer to the bore would probably help your accuracy. Just curious....
That's the height of rings that I needed in order to get the bell of my scope to stay above the rail. I've got so little clearance between my scope and hand guard that I had to trim my scope covers because the plastic wouldn't fit between.
With mine to fix the wiggle I put a piece of tape in front of the mag release lever in the mag well and it works but the mags fit really tight I’m looking of better options
Elfster's Rifles and Reloading went the opposite direction and built up the back of his magazine. I'd suggest people check out his videos on the RPRR. He even does a video with my sleds where he tests how it changes his group results. It's a good video showing how the sled doesn't close up the group, but it helps to eliminate fliers.
It would be interesting if you could “dip” the bullet and upper portion of the casing into layout fluid in order to highlight any rubbing due to misalignment
fantastic video buddy! ill try my best to that video done asap :) might be today,,,,, maybe. It's kinda raining here and there. at least it is over 32 degrees and not negative 50! very good info!
Are you talking about the production magazine you received from Ruger or a product you ordered from us? I see an order with your name on it, but that was 2 years back. Feel free to direct message me if it was a product we supplied and I'd be happy to work with you to find out if we can fit it better.
I had my chassis replaced also. No luck. Ruger is replacing my rifle, after sending it back 3 times with proof in video demonstrations and pictures of mauled rounds.
Are you still looking for testers. I’m a gunsmith with a 600 yard range at my house and shoot daily and my HMR and 22 RPRR are my babies and used almost daily as well. If I can be of any help please let me know and I would love too
Hey, just seeing this. I'm awful about keeping up with RUclips comments. No, we do not need any beta testers. Right now we're not looking to put out a HMR sized sled. We've had a handful of people ask, and I'm considering a pre-order option for it. If I can get about 30 pre-orders, it would offset the development costs. Would you be interested in something like that?
I just use baking soda and super glue on the front of my magazine and then you can sand it to a custom fit works perfectly no more wobble and it only takes a few minutes
We closed up beta testing about 2 months after the call went out. We're in full production now and the PITA Sled can be ordered at our 47 Products website.
From my experience, I think you're in Gen2. There was a lot of variation withing that generation. I suspect, no inside info, that they contracted out some work due to the poor tolerances we saw in that time. Gen2 is known for massively loose magazine fitment poor barrels, backward scope mounts, and a tone of other poor quality control issues.
Complacently will get you killed,sounds like you are a perfect human being and never had one bad thing happen to you or never had a piece of equipment fail you,guess you dont know there are literally millions of people that watch RUclips included people that have 0 knowlage on firearms,better safe than sorry take you negative comments somewhere else
How is it possible that such a reputable firearms manufacturer can completely ignore such an ongoing and ridiculous problem? Please don't let them get involved in manned spacecraft.
NRA sanctioned shoots the control officer gives a command Onslow fire rapid fire and time fire Ten rounds with five rounds load now there isn't any single shot competition great idea if your bench shooting though
Also they don’t make a left handed Ruger precision rim fire so I’m confused on how you think think they could accomplish putting the ejection port on the left side accidentally when the tooling is specialty made? Same with the picatinny rail if it was on backwards that could be possible but machining with reverse cant when their tools are model specific is just not believable. You’re either highly mistaken or lying for the sake of hearing yourself speak.
If you listen to what I said in the video, the MOA built into the rail was backward... the scope slanted upward as you traveled toward the business end. This means that the rail was backward, but it couldn't just be flipped around because it had been drilled incorrectly. It *looked* like it was cut for a lefty rifle because it was mounted the wrong way forward. I found the old RimfireCentral thread where I posted after figuring out what was going on. I do have a single picture on there: www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11111377&postcount=23 I poked around in my parts bin, but it looks like I tossed this rail because it really didn't have any value given it'd been drilled wrong. I hope this gives you a little more faith in humanity that people really do tell the truth sometimes.
Useless product you’re trying to fix an issue of possible inaccuracy that most people don’t have enough training to take advantage of. A scratch on the side of the bullet slightly making it less accurate to a few thousands isn’t gonna make the slightest difference when people are shooting free hand or moving like crazy when they’re in the prone. This is trying to fix a problem that people who shoot factory guns don’t have.
Another fun comment... Well, I can say from the orders I've received that I have many happy customers, but you're also a bit misinformed, and I blame myself there. Yes, eliminating flyers by not scraping the bearing surface is one benefit, but these sleds are also helpful for training, shooting groups off a bench, testing different rounds... there are many benefits. There are some youth programs that do not allow shooters to load magazines, they MUST single load, and these products make that a lot easier. Is this for everyone? Nope. It's something I enjoy using and so do many others.
interesting discovery ,I had the chassis of my RPRR ceracoated ,when I reassembled the rifle I found that all the slop in mag release mechanism and the mag were totally eliminated ,the thin layer of ceracoat was just enough to take up all the slop in the mechanism , big improvement all round .not everyone wants to ceracoat their new rifle , but it worked for me
Interesting concept for a rim fire and feeding consistency. My field target .177 PCPs (BSA R10, Umarex Gauntlet) both use a rotary mag and a single shot tray. I get much better accuracy with a single shot tray.
i am ocd a gunsmith of 6 years have a rprr and property i shoot weekly....i also have had a lot of ideas on how and why the rprr has the problems that it does.... and have seen most of your videos and cant wait to get one i feel this gun can go a long way bc of ppl like you trying to make products that it needs and ppl want!
It's a nice platform. I feel the furniture has a bit too much flex, and the machining work suffered as Ruger tried to keep up with initial demand. Overall, I feel that the rifle is sound, and we'll see it really come into it's own as a precision platform.
It's been a fun yet frustrating time fitting a solution to what has seemed to be a bit of a moving target that is the RPRR. I'm fairly certain we've got it now. Time will tell.
@@47productsllc78 its even more of a problem with a real match chambered barrel i have a er shaw on mine and it makes most of the problems worse.....i have had to come up with a way of getting the round out of the mag sooner than stock....if you file back sum of the lips in a special way you can get the round to jump up in to the bolt face and be held straight in to the chamber when running the bolt slow.....with no marks but wont kick last round out so i use a dummy in place of the last round....this is not a good fix as why i have not made a video on it yet... i hope to get a mag fix nailed down and a titanium firing pin built...all in good time hope your sled comes out soon!
Would like to have one someday, I live in North Ohio too. Rain sucks this year! Great product idea for the Ruger Precision rifle!!! Thanks for taking the time and creating something to improve it!
Definetly cool
Shooting Fields I to live in northern Ohio north west to be precise I have a rain coat maybe you could get one and you and I can get together and you can shoot my Ruger precision rifle
I'm late on the reply, but wanted to share that 47 Products is a NW Ohio Business! We're located in Seneca County, OH.
@@ontargetthomunclesam3926 NW Ohio here too! We're based out of Seneca County.
do you have one for the 17HMR?
A very good idea. I love single shot rifles have been looking for a 22Mag. for years, found one in a pawn shop the owner would not give me a price, went in one day and it was gone. If you ever make some of these for the 22 mag. I will buy one no matter the price.
I got a rpr the 10 shot mag is not ejecting from the mag release so I bought a 10,22 mag and I find it very good no slop ,the old ramline mags fit very well ,there old vintage mags they fit very well in the rpr no problum I like your review very much thankyou
I seen a few RUclips comments about the feeding problems with the ruger precision rimfire using the bx15 mag. I shoots only cci subsonic. It's probably 600 rounds from new, maybe more. The gun is about 3 months old.
I haven't experience feeding issue. It does wiggle a bit tho. I would be interested in trying out your invention. Thanks for making this video👍
Order via www.47products.com/index.php/shop
I'll make sure you get the RPRR design of whatever color you choose.
If you order, make sure to let me know what order yours is so I can get the correct part substituted. Just DM me here or via the 47 Products, LLC Facebook page.
The ruger precision rimfire is my favorite gun i own. I try to get to the range 3 times a month. I would love to test this product. I shoot at 100 yards and shoot for sub moa groups with bulk ammo. I would be happy to pay shipping to try this product. I have heard from several people, about the scarring on the first few rounds in the higher capacity magazines.
Hey, thanks for your interest. As you can see, I'm not good at replying to RUclips comments. We completed testing a couple months after this video released and are in full production. They're available to order off our 47 Products website.
My rimfire RPR had horrible mag “wobble”, I replaced the mag release spring with a much stiffer spring and problem solved. I believe KIDD makes a stiffer spring.
I've heard that people have done that. Did you get an extended mag release arm to go with it too? If not, how stiff is the mag release with the stronger spring?
Personally, for me the mag fitment issues is just one reason I use the trays. More than that, it's just convenient for shooting. I'll stay in the glass and shoot without having to stop to reload mags. Pretty much any time I'm shooting off a bench, I've got a tray in my rifle.
47 Products, LLC no new extended mag release. All original parts save for the spring. It is about 50-75 percent stiffer. Stopped the misfeeds completely.
My suggestion for the RPR in .22 feeding issue my suggestion being a owner of both RPR in .22Lr & 6.5 creedmoor is too send it too ruger or your local gunsmith they can fix the chassis instead of messing with the mags👍🏽
Even with perfect lockup, I love shooting off a sled. Any time I'm shooting off a bench, I'm shooting off a sled. I don't feed mags. It's just more efficient and, my experience shows, there are fewer flyers. I attribute this to it being easier on the round so fewer mars on the bullet face, but I've got nothing buy my own targets to go by.
Elfsters Rifles and Reloading did a video where he tested too.
I'd invite others that have them to share their results.
This is cool. I’ll check your website out. Maybe you are in production. I just bought a RPR 22lr last week.
I shoot my several .22 rifles every weekend at 50, 100, and 200 yards. I will be glad to test your single feed magazine.
We completed testing in late winter and spring of 2019. We're in full production for this device now. It's available on 47 Product's website.
A lot of accuracy issues can be resolved with bedding the action and barrel with aluminum hvac tape
Ordered one and never got it! Ordered it like 4 months ago! How long does it take and ship? I have a pic of the invoice but can’t load it here.
Ordered it July 6th.
I have a Ruger 77-22 and been looking for something like this I would love to test one.
We're in full production. Head over to 47products.com to see the offerings.
I just bought a ruger precision I would like to try one
if u epoxy 2 10shot mags together will it fit in the mag well ?
I bought my rpr December a year ago so December 2020 I got a hundred yard range 50 yd outside my front door and I'm retired I'm a retired Navy Chief and I have all the time in the world I wouldn't mind doing some testing for you if you still need somebody thanks Bob
Ordered both styles. Once gun is set-up Ill send you feedback. Working on a program for BSA.
Like it anyway to adjust the rifles mag lock up
Have you worked with any of the magnum RPR? I have a17hmr RPR and am interested in running one of your items.
I agree I would love this for mine
I've had a handful of requests, but at this time I'm not planning on developing one. Not to say we won't, but the requests have been so infrequent that it just doesn't seem to be enough of a market to justify the development cots.
If I get enough requests, say 100 or so, I'll consider it. So far, I've seen about a dozen.
there a RUclips video that show how to a little how to add a little JB weld to remove that wobble from
the BX 15 & 25 mag, it works in my rppr22
I just got the rimfire 17 HMR and I have the same issue I bought the gun in December of 2020 please send me some recommendations on how to fix
Why do you have the super high see through mounts on a weapon not equipped with iron sights ? Getting the scope closer to the bore would probably help your accuracy. Just curious....
That's the height of rings that I needed in order to get the bell of my scope to stay above the rail. I've got so little clearance between my scope and hand guard that I had to trim my scope covers because the plastic wouldn't fit between.
@@47productsllc78 I see, and understand... Cool.
With mine to fix the wiggle I put a piece of tape in front of the mag release lever in the mag well and it works but the mags fit really tight I’m looking of better options
Elfster's Rifles and Reloading went the opposite direction and built up the back of his magazine. I'd suggest people check out his videos on the RPRR. He even does a video with my sleds where he tests how it changes his group results. It's a good video showing how the sled doesn't close up the group, but it helps to eliminate fliers.
Is there a difference between the sled for the 10/22 and the RPR SLED
It would be interesting if you could “dip” the bullet and upper portion of the casing into layout fluid in order to highlight any rubbing due to misalignment
I think that would work. I've just used sharpie on them when I needed to. Shows you I'm more a nerd than a machinist. LOL
fantastic video buddy! ill try my best to that video done asap :) might be today,,,,, maybe. It's kinda raining here and there. at least it is over 32 degrees and not negative 50! very good info!
liked!
Is the Pita Sled for this rifle also?
Which rifle is that? We recommend the PITA sled for any BX1 magazine fed bolt rifle.
My mag on my American Rimfire fits very tight.
Are you talking about the production magazine you received from Ruger or a product you ordered from us? I see an order with your name on it, but that was 2 years back. Feel free to direct message me if it was a product we supplied and I'd be happy to work with you to find out if we can fit it better.
@@47productsllc78
The factory 10 round mag. I have to practically pry it out. But the BX25 does rattle around a bit.
Just an idea , build a better magazine than the 15 or 25 or any other !
I had my chassis replaced also. No luck. Ruger is replacing my rifle, after sending it back 3 times with proof in video demonstrations and pictures of mauled rounds.
Same here. Got a refund
Are you still looking for testers. I’m a gunsmith with a 600 yard range at my house and shoot daily and my HMR and 22 RPRR are my babies and used almost daily as well. If I can be of any help please let me know and I would love too
Hey, just seeing this. I'm awful about keeping up with RUclips comments. No, we do not need any beta testers.
Right now we're not looking to put out a HMR sized sled. We've had a handful of people ask, and I'm considering a pre-order option for it. If I can get about 30 pre-orders, it would offset the development costs. Would you be interested in something like that?
That’s fine. Potentially. How does that work? How much?
I will test one for you I go to range 1to2 time week & shoot in the nrl22 on the weekend
We ended testing in late winter and early spring of 2019. We're in full production and the product is available on 47 Product's website.
I just use baking soda and super glue on the front of my magazine and then you can sand it to a custom fit works perfectly no more wobble and it only takes a few minutes
Sold!
Hi do you still need testers I use my Ruger for bench shooting I would love to help with testing
We closed up beta testing about 2 months after the call went out. We're in full production now and the PITA Sled can be ordered at our 47 Products website.
Butler creek mags are extremely tight,almost too tight to insert the mag
Thanks for the tip. Do they run reliably?
yes
Are you having website problems? Cannot connect to your site 4/7/19....Error establishing a database connection
Why, yes. Yes we were. It's resolved now.
Pointed in a safe direction and unloaded so you don’t get shot through RUclips.
You wouldn't believe the safety Sallies out there that want to complain to the RUclips police about anything they perceive as a safety issue.
Has anyone used a mallrat with a Shaw barrel with a saami 22 match bore.
Wow my rifle mag wiggles way more than yours. My rifle is a gen 1 I believe.
From my experience, I think you're in Gen2. There was a lot of variation withing that generation. I suspect, no inside info, that they contracted out some work due to the poor tolerances we saw in that time.
Gen2 is known for massively loose magazine fitment poor barrels, backward scope mounts, and a tone of other poor quality control issues.
Oh I forgot😳. I'm from New Zealand 😎
I ship all over the globe. Message me your address and I'll get you shipping info.
By the way this is a video and you can’t be hurt by the rifle even if it was loaded and shot at the camera. No reason to state the obvious.
Complacently will get you killed,sounds like you are a perfect human being and never had one bad thing happen to you or never had a piece of equipment fail you,guess you dont know there are literally millions of people that watch RUclips included people that have 0 knowlage on firearms,better safe than sorry take you negative comments somewhere else
I wish RUclips understood that.... they've got safety Sallies over there that are angry when you don't go over the obvious.
How is it possible that such a reputable firearms manufacturer can completely ignore such an ongoing and ridiculous problem? Please don't let them get involved in manned spacecraft.
I could test for you if you’d like...I just got one, and shoot daily at my property
NRA sanctioned shoots the control officer gives a command Onslow fire rapid fire and time fire Ten rounds with five rounds load now there isn't any single shot competition great idea if your bench shooting though
Also they don’t make a left handed Ruger precision rim fire so I’m confused on how you think think they could accomplish putting the ejection port on the left side accidentally when the tooling is specialty made? Same with the picatinny rail if it was on backwards that could be possible but machining with reverse cant when their tools are model specific is just not believable. You’re either highly mistaken or lying for the sake of hearing yourself speak.
If you listen to what I said in the video, the MOA built into the rail was backward... the scope slanted upward as you traveled toward the business end. This means that the rail was backward, but it couldn't just be flipped around because it had been drilled incorrectly. It *looked* like it was cut for a lefty rifle because it was mounted the wrong way forward.
I found the old RimfireCentral thread where I posted after figuring out what was going on. I do have a single picture on there:
www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11111377&postcount=23
I poked around in my parts bin, but it looks like I tossed this rail because it really didn't have any value given it'd been drilled wrong. I hope this gives you a little more faith in humanity that people really do tell the truth sometimes.
Hey, I was digging in a box in the basement and found the old rail!
If you'd like to see it for yourself, I'll put up a video.
Just my opinion, I would never use this 👎
But I'm sure others may like 👍
Do you have nay experience using such a device?
who wld want a single shot load tray?
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Useless product you’re trying to fix an issue of possible inaccuracy that most people don’t have enough training to take advantage of. A scratch on the side of the bullet slightly making it less accurate to a few thousands isn’t gonna make the slightest difference when people are shooting free hand or moving like crazy when they’re in the prone. This is trying to fix a problem that people who shoot factory guns don’t have.
Another fun comment... Well, I can say from the orders I've received that I have many happy customers, but you're also a bit misinformed, and I blame myself there. Yes, eliminating flyers by not scraping the bearing surface is one benefit, but these sleds are also helpful for training, shooting groups off a bench, testing different rounds... there are many benefits. There are some youth programs that do not allow shooters to load magazines, they MUST single load, and these products make that a lot easier.
Is this for everyone? Nope. It's something I enjoy using and so do many others.