Cospaia: Anarcho-Capitalism with Italian Characteristics
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Anarcho-capitalism has been tried, and it was glorious. The Republic of Cospaia lasted for 386 years with no state and totally free markets. They were never invaded, never had a police force, and operated under voluntary private law. They prospered in peace and were just left alone for nearly 4 centuries, in spite of how we always hear that an ancap community would be invaded by larger states. Cospaia might be gone, but teaches us an enduring lesson about how to get the society we want.
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Cospaia isn't just a good example of liberty, it's what should inspire us to create our own decentralized infastructure and financial system.
Socialists of any kind don't belong in the United States, central systems are only possible with government
On my way to establsh an anarchy on an uninhabited island near New Zealand to sell cigarettes to under 14s there
omw to moving
I like the fact that in my country Greece,even though smoking in schools is prohibited,kids do it from 13 years old
a distant friend of mine wrote an article about cospaia that got published in mises wire a couple of years ago, whilst she was still in high school. it needs way more recognition, idk why anarchists of any kind don't flaunt it.
Was it the one I linked in the description by Ellie McFarland?
@@CeaddaOfMercia yes!
Because it doesn't answer the question of scalability so it is easily dismissed by detractors. This is why I often link Republic of Cospaia to Cheran, despite Cheran being a mix of indegisimio, anarcho mutualist, and environmentalist... it is obviously scalable at a population around 10-18k depending on the estimates
I found that article. She was in high school? Jesus Christ.
@@fabianliberty Little late on this. However, technological developments would be the solution to scalability. In these earlier examples, we notice such infrastructure not existing to make it easier people to communicate and best trade. Not to mention, if anarchy becomes the default philosophy, then more anarchy nations would exist and benefit each other in the event of attacks on their way of life.
Kinda need to get the ball rolling before you can scale it up.
Main takeaway of video: Move to New Hampshire
Yo sorry , it’s Luca. This is based.
Moving there from Horrible New Jersey by next year.
Finally I am not the only one who knows Cospaia as an anarchocapitalist society.
Damn that intro was HEAT
Loved this video! Thank you for bringing this history to the forefront!
Omfg thank you! I have been screaming about the republic of cospaia for months on twitch debating, mostly conservatives, that try and argue that anarchism has never worked anywhere
See also Iga Sukuko iki, Icelandic thane, Amish, German micro states, Roma, Cheran, etc.
Not on large scale, there are also left-wing examples. I guess the simplest example you could come up with is tribal societies, a tribe has no government, no police force, no jails, but the disputes are resolved by elders and it works because there is a strong hierarchy. It is unimaginable to disobey an elder. You can run away from a tribe, but will you when you were conditioned to unquestionably obey village authority? No, society limits our freedom. These tribes are also not capitalist, even when you have a small free market system where people can trade however they want and whatever they want, that's not really capitalism, since capitalism assumes things such as banks and stock exchange.
Italian unification and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Hey Anglo, you should checkout the Republic of Couto Misto, which lasted even more than Cospaia!
It was a territory in the Iberian Peninsula that was left out of both the Kingdom of Spain and the Kingdom of Portugal due to complex manorial disputes, composed of 3 villages, which had no taxes, no army, and no police force whatsoever. They still chose some kind of representative every 3 years, who they called the "judge".
Its hard to find solid info on it, so its not even clear when it started besides the fact that it was around the 12th century, and that it ended in 1864 and was formally dissolved in 1868 under liberal"reforms and nationalism, similarly to Cospaias case.
There was also the curious case of "promiscuous towns" in the Portuguese border, which were houses literally built right on top of it, so that someone with a warrant from the Spanish authorities could move to the Portuguese border or viceversa, or so they say.
Intreseting, were can I read about this?
@@theuniverse5173 Most info will be in spanish or portuguese sadly, you can always try to run it through Google Translate though
Very cool! What primary source can I look up, please?
The Cospia flag is awesome
RETVRN TO COSPAIA
I’ve heard an argument against ancap many times that goes as following: “Ancap only works in small communities”. I think they believe that knowing everyone will make people more likely to trust each other more and provides a sort of security. Are there any counter arguments to this idea?
Well yes, small communities have high levels of trust, but imo that just tells you why large communities such as modern cities suck. You can't increase trust in a place via the threat of violence, you can only (marginally) reduce the incentive to act in an untrustworthy way, but that's the natural result of a culture of untrustworthyness. Localism with free trade is ideal in any circumstance
Anarchism wouldn't have as many huge cities. They would primarily be small towns, relatively close to one another, with vast tracts of farmland
I would say Honk Kong was a good counter-example to that, while not a pure a AnCap sate it was as close as it can get and the result was extremely successful.
@@anteeko honk Kong 🤡
@@australiananarchist480 :)
Maybe the history of Hong Kong would be an interesting subject to cover, although not a perfect ancap society, the economy was left as free as possible. Making it an interesting "experiment"
Every last week of June, in Cospaia there's a holiday which remembers the end of the independency!
Gonna watch this on stream tonight! Thank you!
Do on Acadia, just as Praxben, but more thorough
I will do this. I have a few great essays and books I will combine to create a great script
@@praxben great
Learning Latin is a great challenge.
Hi! I come from a few kilometres away from Cospaia, they also make nice wine (funnily enough there's a wine brand with the Republic's territory flying away from its surroundings). It's so funny so see it being mentioned internationally
It was also tried successfully in Iceland for centuries
The perfect government doesn't exis-
*Sees this video*
There's no government through
@@3p1Kf41L There was though.
@@cynicalmemester1694No not a actuel government
The typical san marino connoisseur as opposed to the most esteemed Cospaia aficionado:
Gonna run down the whole Ace list?
Well there's not many people better to plagiarise 😉
Been turning friends and family on to Cospaia.
I have a simple point: There are a lot of documents claiming that this anarchy was capitalist and ancap, but I havent found any clue that points that it was capitalistic (was there trade? yes, but trade happens too in socialism and communism. Trade is not what makes something capitalist). I mean, who was the owner of the terrains? who was the owner of the houses? where are the registries and contracts? there are italian registries and contracts from the X century (the first mention to pizza) but nothing about a 4 centuries long republic?
All the evidence points that it was just a village with farmers that cultivated the communal grounds around the village, because that was what the villagers did at the time until the liberation of the ground and terrains. The elders were the ones representing the village to sell the production, and housing and profits were given as needed/contracted in the church. This is no capitalism for me, its primitive communism or anarcho-communism similar to the one in Çatalhöyük.
Please, point me to sources, studies or hints that it was capitalist because I have been searching the last hours and I havent found any.
It's hilarious how all real life examples of right wing anarchism that ancaps give end up actually being anarcho communist when you look more into it.
Nice critique. I would really like to see more land titles and descriptions of how the economy actually worked, but of course those documents don't exist... And as such I think imprinting these ideologies on a community that lived hundreds of years ago is naive and warped with many assumptions. It was libertarian with trade, but to what end (to what ownership construct) I think it is still a mystery.
Free trade=capitalism
@@WanderingExistencethats Literally what ancap is
Excellent video. keep up the great content!
Giving me some hope
It was literally a Republic which is an oligarchy and was classified as a micro state and buffer state. They also weren't dedicated to Ancap ideology.
@David We know what he said. Telling us what the video said isn't an argument.
@David Only a council where there representatives came together to decide on things and even had one of the kings of the monarchy that actually owned them come and oversse it. Anarchy doesn't have rulers (representatives) nor do they have kings. Not to mention the only reason it even existed and lasted as long as it did was because the state allowed it to. The minute they wanted all that land back Cospaia was dissolved. Microstates and Oligarchy are not Anarchy.
I would really like there to be some sort of more "academic" paper on Caspaia, as to we have little to no evidence of its existence, its mainly word of mouth and that one treaty.
to my knowledge we dont even have the treaty itself anymore
That's just the entirety of microstates in the middle and late ages
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Amice, viam difficile peragras, sed id nobilis est.
that is epic, I imagine there lives would of been quite satisfactory through out the whole existence of Cospia. I'm just wondering is there any modern day examples of an Anarcho capitalist country I can learn about?
How was cospaia anarcho capitalist if it was literally communitarianist.
Any commuitarian elements were not legally bidning upon the inhabitants
Thanks.I needed this.
Thank you for the video mate.
Audio quality could've been better but great video nonetheless!
Very well done.
Oh to be an Italian in 1440's Cospia...
Can't believe I missed this 🤦🏾♂️
Love your work fam
Very interesting
Nice video bro
Nice one, thank you
New to the channel. Crazy idea here: Do you think a radical top down "libertarianization" of a country on the size of the US, for example, would be able to turn the country into a united anarcho-capitalist nation? Sometimes it seems to me libertarianism is antithetical and incompatible with large nations and the examples we have are usually very small, grassroots communities. What would happen if some revolutionary group decided to instantly abolish the state? Would the society breakup? Would people suddenly start looking for their neighbors to build some sort of local governance in their neighborhood or village? Would there be violence and a takeover by some mafia or cartel? It's interesting to imagine.
I doubt such a reaction would be homogenous. I'd imagine the popular ideals in whatever local power sphere you're in would decide what would happen.
Anarcho-capitalism, in my opinion, is not implementable in a society larger than an extremely small, close-knit community like Cospaia. Minarchism, however, is another story.
I like how he marks his videos as "creative commons". That is a real libertarian, renouncing copyright.
🤌🤌🤌My favorite gabba goo video.
So the best ancap society was completely made by chance, worked by such a small community of families which lukcily held the same values and beliefs,and by the hopes that no external presence decides to enter by force. Well, that isn't a surprise, much of the most radical ideaologies can exist in such a small and isolated enviroment. Not only that, but I would argue that the council was still a state, even if a very small one at that. They still regulated, more so guided, how they believed families should do buisness. You even said they still served punishment by exile. Which while not physical force, were pressured into accepting. I mean, what if they decided not to adhere to the demand of the council and comtinue to cause trouble? And im the end, with no security force, they gave themsleves up. I get it, better then bloodshed, but ot really defeats the passion of the expirement. This was built on a series of lucky circumstance, in a very specific scenario which will be difficult to reproduce again. This is a flimsy example of ancap. Thats not to say they are bad, their ideas were great, I love this republic, its really cool, very fascinating. But you have to admit, it isn't 100% anarcho-capitalism. Maybe the closest it can be, thats for sure.
Great video
Free State Project migration incoming. I've hear New Hampshire has many Catholic communities, which is a good opportunity for Libertarians to build their moral foundations on. Libertarian Catholics ftw
Too small for using it effectively in a debate.
Got an Instagram these days?
weren't acadians ancaps too?
What is it not Anarcho-Distributism
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lol who r u to call ppl soy when ur a vegan urself
Not anymore
@@CeaddaOfMercia what changed???
@@3p1Kf41L I took it upon myself to read what scientific journals actually have to say about the link between animal products and health problems and found it to be largely neutral - whereas before I'd believed baseless assertions that they were bad for you.
Couple that with Bible verses like Matthew 15:11 to take any weight out of the moral argument, I had no reason to keep being vegan
@@CeaddaOfMercia Imagine using religion to dictate your morality 🤢🤮
The perfect government doesn't exis-
*Sees this video*