Very concise information here and little to no fluff. Well done making it easy to wrap one's head around one of the highest APM specs in the game. This helped me greatly as a returning player and being new to rogue. Thank you for the work you put into the community
Bruh I been playing assassination spec for the last few weeks and Ive been looking at guides on how to play outlaw only ur guides I can sort of understand abit better on playing this spec, love your work
Thank you so much for this, started playing assa and outlaw and your guides are just perfect, no useless talking straight to the point and you give every information needed!
I took a lil break from Wow after BFA and I mained rogue through every expansion I played through legion, outlaw was such a slap in the face from combat. I do enjoy the variety but it is a lot going on now. Relearning it right now 😂 I also feel dumb
for anyone who cant be arsed tracking between the eyes, vanish etc JUST PUT BETWEEN THE EYES ON DISPATCH ON YOUR STEALTH BAR ideally u should never need to press it outside of subterfuge if you play well...
Damn bro, i didnt play for 10 years and just started playing again 7 days ago. So far i manage to ger iLvL 370 and my damage was pretty ok. But after watching Ur Video i understand outlaw rogue so much better and my damage output got higher! Thank you 😊
Be strong ❤️ Matthew 11:28-30 (KJV) Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
What about if you have longer than 45 sec on vanish and longer than 15 sec on shadow dance? I can see the use but you might get a slight dps loss. Caveat, you won't be accidentally putting your between the eyes on cooldown
@@MysteriousDelerious What people say is that means you messed up somewhere along the way. The real DPS dump is during stealth effect, all the shit outside of stealth is just to restless blade CP dump to get vanish back to get back to the "real" DPS. At least that's how I understood it.
I just started outlaw for season 4. This has actually made it make sense. Great video. Also, the dmg meter jumped for 3.2mil dps at 18:33? What was that from?
Great vid! I didn't realise using RTB before AR guarantees me a triple buff, I gotta keep that in mind where it's usable. Been playing Outlaw in M+ this patch for the first time basically, it's taken some getting used to not accidentally putting BTE on cooldown outside of subterfuge. Do you ever layer Vanish or SD onto the previous Subterfuge window when you have the CP but you're not gonna get out another BTE before it runs out or is that a dmg loss? I sometimes find myself pretty low on energy for a while, is there something I might be doing wrong? And other times, I use Vanish and immediately BTE but it still goes on cooldown?
Great guide! Thank you! Short question: The ghostly strike macros always on the finisher moves or is it also useful for SS and Ambush? Thx in advance from germany :)
Hey GaleaGGTV can you make a vid where you show youre interface setup? and how to set that up? Im a new player to wow and ur looks so much better then the default one. Kinds Regards, Tinnoe
Thx for the guide, really good info. Just wanted to ask, how do you macro trinkets correctly? I don't mean "just type /use 13 or 14 in a macro", but with what spell do you macro it and when do you use it, to not mess with subterfuge window? Having two on-use trinkets seems kinda hard and I don't know how and when to use them, they sometimes take me out of stealth. Would the the trinkets fit in the same macros with the GS + BTE/Dispatch ? Thank you in advance
Thanks for the video! I have been using my pistol shot procs while in stealth but that seems to be wrong. so just to confirm, in stealth windows we only spam ambush as a builder?
You can use it with broadsides from roll the bones, but it's a very minimal dps gain so I don't, it's just not worth it imo as you're more likely to make mistakes. I only use ambush 👍
Bro why is RUclips recommending me wow outlaw rogue videos. I went sober a year ago, this is the worst time for me bcs i need to focus on real life god im so close to judt downloading it i miss outlaw fuck
so if i mis-pressed between the eyes when the stealth buff is done then it goes into count down then my rotation is over? how do you hold the urge not pressing it when you are not in stealth buff? it seems very fast paced spec and if i pressed it wrong then im done?
outlaw even outperforms assa in st, so u should just train st on the dummy or something. st dmg heavily depends on ur procs. if nothing procs ur dmg hits rock bottom.
Hi again, what can I missed here... I can't use between the eyes when I'm on disparition or shadow dance so many times as you in the video why... I'm wonder. Maybe not so fast enough?
you want your opener to be: Stealth -> Roll the Bones -> Adrenalin Rush -> Bladefury -> Stealth .. so everthing is up at max duraion prepull thanks to subterfuge.
@@kontest15 you don't because you stealth on the adrenaline rush gcd? Also on your opener you're literally forced out of stealth for a gcd when you hit bladeflurry None of it matters anyway, AR is always back off CD before the buff drops off so it really doesn't matter
The first RTB gives you one buff (maybe 2), then you AR which guarantees 2 buffs on your next RTB shortly afterwards and with the set bonus this means you'll have at least for sure 3 buffs all at max timer since the first one gets refreshed with armor set as soon as you pop your second RTB at the start of fight.
When do you use your pistol shot procs? You used pistol shot once in your whole rotation example but i find it can give me 5-6 combo points on 1 global
Make sure you use pistol shot often, cause it can give you a opportunity proc,which makes your gameplay flow going, this way you use sinister strike less, you should almost never use sinister strike.
Hi, is there a macro for the opener ? Blade into roll into adrenaline and then go stealth ? Tried making one but its not working, not a big brainer on macros
Hey dude ! thanks for the video, i've been trying a really similar build, but i'm having an issue that i really don't know how to deal with. With all CDs, the first minute of my fight goes well (prio to vanish, then spam bte, shadow dance, spam bte, reset dices etc) but then more often than i would like i find myself with no SD, Vanish, and AR cooldowns, low energy and my momentum just completely crashes changing my ~100/130k dps into a cringe and unfluid 30k dps, and i really don't know what to do.. Have you or anyone else been in a similar situation ? Ty (:
@@imthrillz5255 I just played my hunter on classic and it's basically Arcane shot on CD, Multi shot and maybe Volley. I'm down for a few more but nothing like retail. Retails rotations are for people who play for a living.
@@galeaggtvIf you're stealthed you dont lose duration on adrenaline rush and that makes other abilities have their duration frozen. That way you can, for example, wait till tank gathers mobs or boss to get in position without losing your time on your buffs.
thanks for the vid. only issue for me is the roll the bones before AR isn't giving me the 3 after my second roll the bones. idk if im doing it wrong or im just dumb but any tips would be appreciated
the cataclysmic signet Brand is wastly overrated as rogue. it was terrible interactions with after fight stealthbreaking because it gives you a dot and in m+ it does terrible overall damage. In m+ that trinket is extreme bait and atleast for rogues among the worst trinkets.
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Very concise information here and little to no fluff. Well done making it easy to wrap one's head around one of the highest APM specs in the game. This helped me greatly as a returning player and being new to rogue. Thank you for the work you put into the community
Bruh I been playing assassination spec for the last few weeks and Ive been looking at guides on how to play outlaw only ur guides I can sort of understand abit better on playing this spec, love your work
Thank you so much for this, started playing assa and outlaw and your guides are just perfect, no useless talking straight to the point and you give every information needed!
I started wow in 2005 with a rogue. I have no memory of this abomination that rogue has become. I feel like dumb.
I took a lil break from Wow after BFA and I mained rogue through every expansion I played through legion, outlaw was such a slap in the face from combat. I do enjoy the variety but it is a lot going on now. Relearning it right now 😂
I also feel dumb
for anyone who cant be arsed tracking between the eyes, vanish etc JUST PUT BETWEEN THE EYES ON DISPATCH ON YOUR STEALTH BAR ideally u should never need to press it outside of subterfuge if you play well...
Dud you just saved my life
I love that his camera is so big that it covers the left part of the skill tree.
this is the best guide I've seen so far, thank you
love rogue but all this info made my head spin :3
Im normally playing casters, and this looks super confusing, but im exicted to learn it. Definitely already help me a lot.
Thanks for the guide! The ghostly eyes macro especially what I skipped before, now its muuuch much better. I usually forget to use the damn skill...
Damn bro, i didnt play for 10 years and just started playing again 7 days ago. So far i manage to ger iLvL 370 and my damage was pretty ok. But after watching Ur Video i understand outlaw rogue so much better and my damage output got higher! Thank you 😊
Thank you so much for the guide, you helped me get from 35kish~ to almost 90k dps for my low dungeons at 424 ilvl. Pretty useful to get started with.
Deleted wow to battle my life-long addiction. These outlaw changes has me on the verge of downloading again! Great video. Lord have mercy on my soul
Keep fighting the good fight! Family/health first and foremost ❤️
Be strong ❤️
Matthew 11:28-30 (KJV) Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
tip: use dispatch and beetwin the eyes on one button. If u stealth u use BTE if unstealth u use dispatch automatically.
What about if you have longer than 45 sec on vanish and longer than 15 sec on shadow dance? I can see the use but you might get a slight dps loss. Caveat, you won't be accidentally putting your between the eyes on cooldown
@@MysteriousDelerious What people say is that means you messed up somewhere along the way. The real DPS dump is during stealth effect, all the shit outside of stealth is just to restless blade CP dump to get vanish back to get back to the "real" DPS. At least that's how I understood it.
Can you share your weakauras here and maybe your macros please?
amazing video bro! thanks for the great content! your hard work is appreciated my man!
I just started outlaw for season 4. This has actually made it make sense. Great video. Also, the dmg meter jumped for 3.2mil dps at 18:33? What was that from?
What a complicated spec. Holy Moly
Made an outlaw rogue didnless dps than the healer this helped lmaooo
wow. very helpful video. I was playing all wrong.. I was going out of energy.. waiting for Ad. Rush.. no BTE in Shadow Dance and what not lol.
Amazing guide, thank you! Hope you got better
Great vid! I didn't realise using RTB before AR guarantees me a triple buff, I gotta keep that in mind where it's usable. Been playing Outlaw in M+ this patch for the first time basically, it's taken some getting used to not accidentally putting BTE on cooldown outside of subterfuge. Do you ever layer Vanish or SD onto the previous Subterfuge window when you have the CP but you're not gonna get out another BTE before it runs out or is that a dmg loss?
I sometimes find myself pretty low on energy for a while, is there something I might be doing wrong? And other times, I use Vanish and immediately BTE but it still goes on cooldown?
I find this too that I'm often energy depleted. I have thought of stacking more haste to see if it compensates a bit
Great guide! Thank you! Short question: The ghostly strike macros always on the finisher moves or is it also useful for SS and Ambush? Thx in advance from germany :)
Thanks man I dont feel like turd anymore as new outlaw
Thank you for this. Great video. Any changes to rotation when switching targets? What’s on your bar marked ‘V’ (right most on lower bar)
its may be a ridiculous question but.. why does ur blade flurry give u combo points and not to me? is it just a talent or smth?
There is a talent that gives 1 CP per enemy hit in the AOE so with big groups it just fills you up.
Hey GaleaGGTV can you make a vid where you show youre interface setup? and how to set that up? Im a new player to wow and ur looks so much better then the default one.
Kinds Regards,
Tinnoe
Thx for the guide, really good info. Just wanted to ask, how do you macro trinkets correctly? I don't mean "just type /use 13 or 14 in a macro", but with what spell do you macro it and when do you use it, to not mess with subterfuge window? Having two on-use trinkets seems kinda hard and I don't know how and when to use them, they sometimes take me out of stealth. Would the the trinkets fit in the same macros with the GS + BTE/Dispatch ? Thank you in advance
did outlaw get nerfed after this video? I'm 460 ilvl and i'm doing the rotation exactly like this and i can barely crack 250 overall on target dummies
You can use dagger in offhand as outlaw? I always thought you wanted sword/mace/axe/fist even in offhand
What addons is he using for UI specifically the energy bar??
Thanks for the video! I have been using my pistol shot procs while in stealth but that seems to be wrong. so just to confirm, in stealth windows we only spam ambush as a builder?
You can use it with broadsides from roll the bones, but it's a very minimal dps gain so I don't, it's just not worth it imo as you're more likely to make mistakes. I only use ambush 👍
What if you’re energy starved in aoe?
I'm 20 seconds into the video Is this for PVP or pve?
Watching this is like getting an epiphany after struggling to figure out why I was only doing 60k-80k at 460 ilvl but 200k+ as assassination in AoE
Hey Galea, thanks for vid! Did you completely drop your DH?
is there a decent subterfuge weak aura out there and great guide!
So in stealth/subterfuge it's completely OK to do 4-point finisher and 5-point if outside?
No 5p in stealth/subterfuge and 6p outside 👍
Bro why is RUclips recommending me wow outlaw rogue videos. I went sober a year ago, this is the worst time for me bcs i need to focus on real life god im so close to judt downloading it i miss outlaw fuck
Lol
Perfect ty Sir
for the opener, u go right into stealth after u used blade flurry. u lose time on ur AR otherwise.
Hey man do you have a link to your weak aura or is it just the most popular outlaw one?
UNderhanded, upperhanded* 😎
Why did I always think you needed to hit adrenaline rush and then roll the bones ? Was that a thing and it's not no more ?
No you're right that was the case before our new tier set
@@galeaggtv okay so til you get tier use as before then with new tier use RTB 1st got it thanks
No mention of My’das Talisman and I’m wondering why you left it out as a BIS trinket?
what UI is this for the skill bar under health?
Should i be using pistol shot to help gain combop points or just wait?
so if i mis-pressed between the eyes when the stealth buff is done then it goes into count down then my rotation is over? how do you hold the urge not pressing it when you are not in stealth buff? it seems very fast paced spec and if i pressed it wrong then im done?
Hi, I will try this new outlaw. When will you do Sub guide please ? It is different from the last version you did before?
as an Outlaw im doing really good AOE, but my ST is real bad!! im doing like 250k - 350k AOE but like 65 - 75 ST
outlaw even outperforms assa in st, so u should just train st on the dummy or something. st dmg heavily depends on ur procs. if nothing procs ur dmg hits rock bottom.
wtf why its become so complicated
can you do a KIR guide? For some reason no guide, even WowHead/Icyveins, have it anywhere on there. Yet, it's the only build people play in top keys?
Thx bud
Hi again, what can I missed here... I can't use between the eyes when I'm on disparition or shadow dance so many times as you in the video why... I'm wonder. Maybe not so fast enough?
The biggest issue I’m having is blade fury prior to combat rather than in combat. Does it make a big difference because it’s a huge pain
Class act!
you want your opener to be: Stealth -> Roll the Bones -> Adrenalin Rush -> Bladefury -> Stealth .. so everthing is up at max duraion prepull thanks to subterfuge.
I'm in stealth on the adrenaline rush global, ot makes literally no difference 👍
You wasted 1gcds on bladefury and 1gcd on Adrenalinrush. If you stealth before, you wont waste anything
@@kontest15 you don't because you stealth on the adrenaline rush gcd?
Also on your opener you're literally forced out of stealth for a gcd when you hit bladeflurry
None of it matters anyway, AR is always back off CD before the buff drops off so it really doesn't matter
a lot of plyrs dont use Ambush ... why is that ?
If u want verse and crit, is it worth using pvp gear then?
Why is the talent tree for M+ that you go over. so far from the one u have linked in descr. as the M+ build
Why does subcreation say use Echo rep ? ive never used it and never saw a benefit was just curious
really hope you make an enhance guide 🤞🏽
I have seen the rise of echoing reprimend on the top rogues, whats up with that?
really well done as always, I hope you will do the same for the subtlety
so maybe a dumb question but why wouldnt you want to adrenaline rush into roll the bones for 2 buffs vs 1 buff
The first RTB gives you one buff (maybe 2), then you AR which guarantees 2 buffs on your next RTB shortly afterwards and with the set bonus this means you'll have at least for sure 3 buffs all at max timer since the first one gets refreshed with armor set as soon as you pop your second RTB at the start of fight.
What about ataldazar midas tricket? Doesnt it sim incredibly good?
I was thinking the same thing I just got that one myself yesterday and then and to get off so still haven't used it yet
It's a good trinket, but not bis, just wanted to mention your bis you should aim
your talent tree changes in the video from talents then it goes to opener . whole new build !?
Do I get to be that guy who points out that it's "underhanded upper hand"? 😬Love the video though ❤
Ha, I thought it was upperhanded upper hand for so long 🤣 thanks
Excellent video and well explained. For some reason, my subterfuge aura is no longer visible during Shadow Dance or Vanish. I am not sure why... weird
When do you use your pistol shot procs? You used pistol shot once in your whole rotation example but i find it can give me 5-6 combo points on 1 global
Make sure you use pistol shot often, cause it can give you a opportunity proc,which makes your gameplay flow going, this way you use sinister strike less, you should almost never use sinister strike.
@@BoneJovi456 during subterfuge though?
@@amosmonkif you have the buff that generates extra combo points it is good to use in subterfuge
Why is haste so bad for m plus?
I think for a masterclass talents and macros also rdy to copy paste are missing.
*UNDER*handed Upper Hand.
Ive copied your ghostly strike macro, but for some reason it only works when i press dispatch and not BTE
Hi, is there a macro for the opener ? Blade into roll into adrenaline and then go stealth ? Tried making one but its not working, not a big brainer on macros
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=10 blade flurry,stealth,roll the bones,adrenaline rush,Slice and Dice
Hey dude ! thanks for the video, i've been trying a really similar build, but i'm having an issue that i really don't know how to deal with. With all CDs, the first minute of my fight goes well (prio to vanish, then spam bte, shadow dance, spam bte, reset dices etc) but then more often than i would like i find myself with no SD, Vanish, and AR cooldowns, low energy and my momentum just completely crashes changing my ~100/130k dps into a cringe and unfluid 30k dps, and i really don't know what to do..
Have you or anyone else been in a similar situation ?
Ty (:
What is the macro you are using to automatically use ghostly strike?
Crazy how they stealth nerfed Outlaw
Gameplay stays the same with the 4pc right?
i liked outlaw in SL but hate him now, cant get enough dmg from BTE dont know why
Have you tried the KIR build? How is it compared to HO
kir is stronger than ho but more difficult to play. most of the time i do way less dmg than with ho, but sim says, kir is stronger
why is it 4 to 5 and 5 to 6 is there a specific reason why not max or shy?
It's just the most efficient use of energy per damage point
At what point does this game become so overcomplicated that you decide to stop playing?
enjoy classic
@@Impuracle yeah waiting for season of discovery. ♥️👍
@@edmondprice6215season of discovery is literally overcomplicating classic by adding more skills or twisting up classes…
@@imthrillz5255 I just played my hunter on classic and it's basically Arcane shot on CD, Multi shot and maybe Volley.
I'm down for a few more but nothing like retail. Retails rotations are for people who play for a living.
We are way past that point, i think.
No take on outlaw in pvp?
is this still the way to play outlaw´?
What about KIR build?
Isnt the opener Blade flurry > Stealth > roll the bone > adrenaline rush > slice and dice ?
doesn't matter does it? as long as you're in stealth on the slice and dice gcd?
@@galeaggtv was just curious why you did it in that order :)
@@florianchoquet8679 just habit 🤣 think both are equally fine
@@galeaggtvIf you're stealthed you dont lose duration on adrenaline rush and that makes other abilities have their duration frozen. That way you can, for example, wait till tank gathers mobs or boss to get in position without losing your time on your buffs.
@@TehDuckOfDoomyes and I stealth on the adrenaline rush global? Whereas the other stealths on roll the bones, there is literally no difference
can we got a macro to do the opener?
Doesnt ghostly strike generate a combo point so you would want to use it on a generator or after a finisher?
Makes so little difference it's not worth it imo that's why I advise macroing it in
@@galeaggtvcan you macro GS with SS? thank you
No midas?
Folks...Wowhead team has already done out the best of the best for you so I am not sure where you are coming up with these things?!?!?
thanks for the vid. only issue for me is the roll the bones before AR isn't giving me the 3 after my second roll the bones. idk if im doing it wrong or im just dumb but any tips would be appreciated
Hey, you need the new 4 set? It's all around the new tier set
What weapon do you think its the best to craft Main or offhand as M+ only?
I'd go main hand if your not Raiding then farm for the dagger in Fall (Dawn) for off hand
As Steven said, craft main hand then pick up a dagger from fall ideally
what addons does he use?
the cataclysmic signet Brand is wastly overrated as rogue. it was terrible interactions with after fight stealthbreaking because it gives you a dot and in m+ it does terrible overall damage. In m+ that trinket is extreme bait and atleast for rogues among the worst trinkets.
Sir please do Assasin
where is sub rogue guide ? ):
It's uh.... "UNDER-handed, upper hand". Not Upper handed upper hand.
wen outlaw guide ?
Idk might be a while mate
Great video! Could you please share the macro you use for ghostly strike?
Hey, ye it's just at the end of the video
Make sure to put both between the eyes and dispatch one in your normal and stealth bars 👍
it's hard to explain but it pisses me off every time he says UPPER handed upper hand