Master Star Citizen's Updated Gimbal System In 2 Minutes | Star Citizen 2024
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- Gimbals just aren't what they used to be (and that's okay!)
In this Star Citizen guide video, I explain the gimbal changes in the newest Star Citizen release, how to tell if they're on or off, and what the tradeoffs are when using gimbals. I also try and demonstrate when they are best used, and when you should be avoiding them.
Essentially, Gimbals are now a tactical choice in combat: with gimbals off, your ship will do significantly more DPS to enemies, but higher DPS counts for nothing if you can't hit them. This is where gimbals come in: Gimbals allow your guns to transverse (to a degree) independent of your ship's orientation, but they fire much more slowly. However, if this means you're able to place more shots on the target, they definitely make a difference.
If you're in a larger ship, and struggling to hit a target that is evading your nose or firing arcs, gimbals may help you score kills you may otherwise be missing completely.
Let me know what you think in the comments!
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I haven't seen anyone talk about Precision Mode yet.
Auto-Gimbals may be gone, but Precision Mode has CRAZY autogimbal. You just aim right at a moving target and your gimbals lead the shot for you.
MM is going to push more team play, and I can see having a brawler to keep shields down and a stand off "support fire" ship that just pummels the target with Precision Mode at 3-4km.
That's the role the Heavy Fighters and "Gunships" like the Connie and Corsair need to play. Stand off, Precision Mode, pummel targets distracted by a Light Fighter harassing them. The Connie is already built for this with it's Merlin Snub.
That is my next video. Already working on it.
Couldn’t believe how good the autogimbal is with precision mode. It really feels good, especially during ERT’s on the bigger ships
Straight to the point!
Always
That too, is why i've always enjoyed BC content.. short and to the point
@@BuzzCutPsycho i like this guy
@@mohammadafiqhidayat121 I also like this guy
Thank you for the straight forward information with zero filler o7
That's what I do
@@BuzzCutPsycho
That is why i like and sub, no messing just to the point
Never noticed the target thing in the bottom right until now! Great information.
You are totally welcome
Thats why i love your Videos. Straight to the point with no bullshit attached. Thanks and keep going!
Thanks man. I've got some more short ones I'm working on. A lot of it is going to help quite a bit.
I hadn't been using gimbal mode before and recently realized I didn't understand (or forgot) how they worked. Thanks for explaining the updated mechanic. I just picked up a Connie so I might have to try it on that against smaller ships.
Happy to help! It works well on those bigger ships.
Subbed to your channel recently and you've become one of my early watch videos when your content releases. Keep up the great work! 👏
Welcome aboard! I have a lot more shorts coming. A lot to teach people with 3.23.
Thanks for keeping the community updated. I enjoy your short and to the point content.
I'm glad. Got a day off from work finally so I'm gonna make a few more today to release over time.
We had this manual aim mode before 3.23. I tought we should keep the old gimbal mode with auto aim big circle considering it is half fire rate now. PS. As the best Corsair pilot in game, I found a very interesting bug. How can I send you the info via PM??
just join my disc server and DM me or add me to friends BuzzCutPsycho on Discord
Thanks again. While, I don't do much PvP play, I still really appreciate your vids and I always go here first for learning valuable player tips for Star Citizen.
Glad to hear it! This stuff helps PvE too.
Thank you. This really helped me
Glad it helped!
Thank you i was confused about how the gimbals worked now u made it clear o7
Glad it helped!
Simple, clear, subbed
THANKS! More coming, also simple.
Fantastic vids. Thank you as always Buzz.
My pleasure!
Thanks for helping us figure out 3.23. My initial impression is that it is more beneficial to the users of mouse & keyboard controls than HOTAS/HOSAS. Could use head-tracking, but it'd have to be very precise.
It works pretty well for both now. I would save mouse is better for aim. Ideal setup is 1 stick, pedals, and a mouse for aim.
@@BuzzCutPsycho I'll try that sometime, thanks for the tip.
Very useful. Will need to try this out on the Connie.
You should! I do it on the Corsair a lot.
Fantastic channel! Thanks brother
My pleasure!
I usually try to use lag pip when in battle. However when using gimbal target mode I find it a little awkward. My question to anyone reading, if you do use gimbals on large ships what pip do you use? Any setting recommendations would be greatly appreciated. 😅
I use lead always
How do we switch to lag now?
I do not see the option.
@@rybuds47 Lag pip is now only available as a keybind. I suggest you use an unused key to toggle between pips.
@@2survivetheday thank you so much have a great day!
If I understand it, then using gimbals and maneuvering is tied together? Or is it possible to turn you ship in one direction and use gimbals to shoot in different direction?
Tied together. Its weird.
@@BuzzCutPsycho Just another bit of info using track ir and a joystick allowed me to move the ship and aim on gimbal with out both being combine.( its not perfect by any means since you use head movements )
This is great, thanks!
You're welcome!
Easy And fast. Thanks!
No problem that's what we do here
That looks like it was custom made for mouse users. Could HOTAM become the meta?
HOSAM is pretty meta atm, with peddles.
Thank you so much! Sadly, I loved my hotas controls, but it was always course in the controls, that big gimbal circle meant I was still lethal. Now, well, I guess it's either mouse or cargo runs.
There is a chance that either what you want comes back or gimbals go away forever.
@@BuzzCutPsychothat wouldn’t even make sense.. only having hard set weapons would be stupid af and frankly not realistic.
@@KingSnake420 not a lot of realism in SC
@@BuzzCutPsycho What are you talking about? Their whole premise is to make a realistic living breathing universe. Maybe you shouldn't be making videos on star citizen cause idiots like you try to ruin it. Getting rid of gimbals would be idiotic. Our modern day military's have automated targeting guns on both naval vessels and aircraft. You actually think they somehow would lose that tech 100s of years later instead of it being improved? Get real bud.
So with the new system it must be a big but in my Vanguard warden stock loadout switching on gimbal mode on I lose my laser cannons firing I get they are nose mounted to the warden but they disappear completely off the HUD and the only thing left is the size 5 cannon
the smaller ones dont have a gimbal sadly and cannot have one, only the size 5 does
So im still a tad confused. Next to stagger mode, theres an icon that says auto gimbal or auto target or something like that. As of now the game does not allow you to assign a hotkey to it for the auto mode toggle. Is this a feature thats coming soon or something? cause on ships like the corsair id rather have the auto targeting for some situations.
auto no longer works and is a left over from the old hud
Oh so it’s not coming back? Which I’m good with but there’s a new or thought it was new keybind to toggle just fixed/auto. I just thought it was not reimplemented yet
@@LibertyOrDeath87 Nope aint coming back. Sad.
subbed for not wasting time
Thanks. That's how we do it here.
Thanks 😮
No problem
Turreted auto gimbal has been a big help for the wrist and hits.
left alt and G for turret auto gimbal.
Videos coming about those too.
Is there still some kind of advantage to use a weapon one size smaller than the gimbal on which it is mouted?
None. Dont do it.
havent done combat in a long time, how does it work with duel stick setups, I dont fly with a mouse.........................
not well
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it. Gonna shoot for one more frequently than before
thank you for this video
My pleasure
Is there any benefit to not including ginbals at all?
Like a size 3 with no gimbals is the exact same as size 3 with a gimbal but turned off?
No benefit only issues. Never take the gimbals off. As a matter of fact removing the gimbals causes some convergence issues.
@@BuzzCutPsycho ahh thanks mate. I have been trying to figure that out since MM started.
Simplicity is a Key to grow! Thanks BuzzcutPsycho! love vids like these [SUB]
Thanks for the sub! More are coming. I am working on an entire series.
I don't undertand it... so is it still the best to have mouse aiming or do I have a chance as fixed joystick user ... many years ago i stopped playing it because mouse point and kill was too OP and everytime I ask if mouse is best they say yes... so what this change means... i'm always confused... (I always said to make it balanced all weapons should be gimabled with autoassist so there is no difference between mouse/joystick users and it's all controled by some computer unit in ship... so does this precision mode mean it works like what i said... it auto tracks and assist pilot so it doesn't matter what input controler/mouse/hotas he is using ?)
The DPS is much lower and in general you are much bette off with the fixed forward weapons. I only ever use this to PvP more maneuverable ships trying to circle me.
@@BuzzCutPsycho thanks
good video
Glad you enjoyed
I wish they would add option do Decouple a Yaw/pitch/roll .. yeah most people wont use it, but some as me would 100% .. simulating interstellar docking scene would be my 1st to go thing to try with it :D
They do have decouple mode
Hit C to decouple!
learn to read .. Decoupled YAW/PITCH/ROLL .. if i tap roll (Q/E), it wont be rolling for ever, but in real life it shall be rolling forever until counter thrust push. Only thing C is doing is decoupling your movement on YXZ axis but no yaw/pitch/roll
@@BuzzCutPsycho let me try to explain myself in a simple manner. If you Hold Q, your ship will start spinning/rolling, if you stop holding Q, ship will stop rolling, But its supposted to keep rolling, more you hold Q faster it will spin, only way to stop it is to Hold E untill complete stop of spin. This is what I want.
@@mikecapson1845 Oh that is not possible even if you decouple. Yeah, I feel you. yes that would be nice.
Wow I didn't know that Gimbels even worked
Now you do
omg thank you!
No problem!!
The biggest problem with this is that it puts people using sticks at a disadvantage. Now I have no gimbal assist but it's also unreasonable to try and aim manually with sticks.
Hopefully the old gimbal assist will come back in the form of a computer blade.
Hopefully. For now it is only on turrets.
first-ish PS: You have any upcoming keyboard/mouse user tutorials for turret operation in MM?
Soon as turrets get fixed yes
A1 would make a 20min video out of this lol
LOL
Master, can you make a video explain the subtargetting system in ALT+RBM? THX!
Yes. That is coming too. Soon as I'm off work I'm gonna begin recording them.
But how does this work with dual stick players?
It doesn't LOL
I feel like this is gonna be hard to use with hosas now.
It will be
I'm really not a fan of CIG removing auto gimbal without introducing an alternative. Currently, and to my knowledge, there is no way to aim gimbals independently of where you're turning. Furthermore, there's no appreciable way to aim gimbals with a HOTAS or HOSAS setup.
Its pretty worthless tbh for sticks
Wha about turrets? Weren't they supposed to get auto gimbals in 3.23?
Yup. Turret guide coming too
Oh! Okay! :V
OKAY!!!!
I wish they didn't lower the DPS give the slower ships love CiG.
I hate the dps nerf too
I love all the changes. They did a perfect job
If you dont give a fuck about the game being a "sim" I guess. Joysticks and gamepads are fucked in pvp now completely.
@Mr_Beaubles game is great. Battles last longer. Big ships are stronger and everything is up close now. Who says that a Sim means you have to joust around really fast? It is still a sim but better in my view.
agreed
I have big guns! 😈
Use em' to swat those flys away baby
Hi my problem is I got Ion, and i takes 7 hits + to kill a pisces. WTF they did to the game? I then tried MK2 hornet, with mixed loadout (dist.+laser+ballistics) damn it sucked hard... So i tried Corsair, and it shined killtime same like before... so I dont get it. I was maining a Warden, but it seems now a unusable in armo fights ( slow, and doing no dmg) The incriese in time to kill and decrese of speeds makes me dying to being outnumbered without option of jousting out of the firefights to replenish shields.. I dont like flying ships like corsair, and i hate to fly small ships like Arrow ether. I loved Ares and Varden serries .. but now im a bit lost tbh :( im playing since 2017 and now im generally thinking about quitting the game for a while.. i struggle to adapt i guess
Are you charging the shots on the ion?
You had to charge the Ion, otherwise the guns suck. Iti s in a bad spot. Don't give up though, you can crush bigger ships.
so they optimised this for mouse and keyboard use. and completely ffed over all flightstick users.
i can see how this would be better for mouse.
and i hate fighting with stick now and thus i just don't
It's ok. The DPS loss sucks and sticks still own. I would say best setup is now stick pedal mouse.
I am 890JumpWithLTIOwner
based ion inferno owner and enjoyer
Now tell me how to get them to target using my eyes and tobi, or using my hat on my joystick.
I'll work on it ;)
@@BuzzCutPsycho thanks, because I spent hours trying to figure it out. I accidently got it working for tobi tracking a few patches back, but I dont know how to do it again.
@@FrozenKnight21 I believe is called gaze based targeting.
@@BuzzCutPsycho i think you're right, but where in the menus is it?
I thought gimbals already made you have to downgrade your weapon size... Now they are even worse?
Weapon sizes aren't downgraded anymore
@@andrewebear4312 oh damn nice. Can't wait to play again.
No more down grade
thank you for not making this 10min long, you are a scallop and a gatemen, sorry for spelling bin drinking
I love scallops
5 years of progress down the drain. gimbal assist was introduced because everybody on spectrum complained about the mouse meta.
bigger ships where always at a disadvantange against light fighters, now using sticks with a freelancer, corsair, constelation, 600i, even a spirit is a nerf to al stick players. even they were never performing well. i have to use now mouse for all my ships that are not medium or light fighters.....
People do pretty well still on sticks. ESP is borked though.
Hundreds of years in the future and the weapons can't automatically track a target? Ignoring other stuff that make no sense, this is a change for the worst.
agreed
So basically if you use a joystick your fucked. Nice one cig.
Gimbals had manual mode before 323 but gun sizes and damage changed with auto mode being moved. You have to choose between steering and shooting accurately with the KBM pip.
i dont know about that
Cig Nerfed the gimballs again so useless
they are not great but can help in some situations
Straight nerf to HOTAS and Joystick
Sadly
The worst change CIG has ever made. Basically a "f*** people with joysticks, I guess"... people with joysticks will never be able to aim as well as mouse/keyboard and never be competitive.
I hate it too brother. And I am MKB.
Use Precission Mode with Sticks. Then you have autogimbals back.