Destiny 2 Lore - Will the Last City be invaded in "Into The Light?" Returning to the old Tower?
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2024
- Destiny 2's Lore and Story for the "Into The Light" update might feature an invasion of The Last City and a return to the old Tower from Destiny 1! If it does this could have massive ramifications for the story of the Hive, The Black Fleet and the Guardians in general! If we defeat Xivu Arath here, we will deal a body blow to the Hive. If we lose the conflict we could lose the Last City entirely.
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If the Last City really is invaded by the Black Fleet, and Hive, and the Black Armory returns to do what it was founded for, then I’ll say it, Into the Light is what Lightfall should have been.
I think rather it's what Season of Defiance should have been.
@@Skull_Kid. no i dissagree lightfall the name itself depicts the darkness finally being here and fighting, and it just never made sense to me that we never had our real fight that was being hyped up, this image for into the light is this war that i have been awaiting for
if lore was different yeah
@@Skull_Kid.Yep. Xivu invading the last city and taking prisoners instead of the Cabal.
@@Skull_Kid.TRUE
The Last City becoming under siege like this would make the battles of Six Fronts and Twilight Gap look like a picnic
Shax at the invasion: THROW MORE GRENADES
Cabal "STOP SHOUTING"
Shaxx "RELAX!!"
😂😂😂
Who is gonna stop this guardian he’s upstoppable
Shaxx: FIGHT FOREVER GUARDIAN!!!!!!!!!!
That's a Cabal Scorpio turret with the Vanguard logo on it. I think we're going to fully integrate the other races into the Earth military.
Thank God someone else said it
That's not a scorpius turret, look up a picture of one
@@declansmyth6295 well I guess the siva fallen won't fallen since they didn't look like fallen
@declansmyth6295 in any case...
Might not be a Cabal Scorpius turret, but it does look like it might've been based on their design.
The City’s defenses could improve in a big way if that happens: the Elksni’s engineering and tech skills. The Cabal’s legions, fleets, heavy artillery, and large weaponry. The Awoken’s mystical weapons, spell-craft, and special forces like the Queensguard, Corairs, spies, and Paladins that command their remaining fleets. If they officially join us, Neomuna’s advanced weapons, tech, and hackers could be a great help to any attacks from digital or incorporeal enemies. If Rasputin returns in the future as a Guardian, we could get his memories back, and slowly rebuild his assets that were lost. It could take many years, but there must be old plans of his wartime armaments and other assets somewhere in Sol. If the Warsats, its network, the combat frames, and his many armories and arsenals are restored through our efforts; the Warsats could repel future invasions of our strongholds. Rasputin himself, if he is reborn in the Light, may be a powerful force to combat the hive and worm gods.
Man seeing vanilla D2 footage takes me back
11:55 Seeing a Dawn Blade super take 3 shot to kill a red bar cabal yikes man. I didn't start playing until late 2018 so missed that and I know Damn Blade is a notoriously weak super but damn.
It looks like a different game it's so wild
a cod zombies type hoarde mode would be so fire
I’d love a mode more akin to gears survival mode where you choose a spot on the map, set up barricades, turrets and other defensive upgrades
it would
We kind of need this type of content. This game has just felt the same so a new game mode like this could work.... Oh but we have thralls already
It wont happen 'cause Bungie is Bungie.
Yeha but that would require bungie to do some effort so it’s not gonna haplen
Alright let's be honest, If there is a new disciple, I think we all know exactly who it is. The infamous Hive Knight that has been risen time and time again to prove their strength. The one and only... Kelgorath.
My stocks are in my boy Kelly being the future leader of the Hive after Xivu. And showing some of the politics of the Hive and how the old Hive gods only cared about their family than the true goal of the Hive
No its taniks the immortal
Kelgorath? More like... SMELL-gorath amirite?!?
Best Glaive in the game though (not exotic)
Love him for that
You have GOT to be joking. Kelgorath has had 3 or 4 chances to prove himself against us and he has failed miserably every single time. The Witness didn't even make Oryx, Savathun or Xivu Arath disciples, why the hell would he ever consider Kelgorath?
Here I was. Sitting there eating my noodles on a Friday evening looking for something good to watch on youtube but my search yielding nothing. Then I refreshed the page and the familiar gold and black text caught my eye. Thanks for the company lore daddy.
Always a treat to watch a new Byf video with some good food 😊
Same lol
I was waiting for him to say something....great Friday indeed. ❤
Were the noodles good?
12 player hoard mode. Each wave you beat gets you points. 100k point gives you golf ball, basket ball, or deepsight harmonizer.
A way to farm harmonizers would be so dope
And getting one plays “slam jam”
everybody on about farming those things, but no one on about exotic ciphers
We need this! It would honestly save the player base, especially if it can be accessed by free to play players!
@@Brrrstrumentfor REAL
6:55
If theres something like this it will be the best scene in destiny for ages
your typical slapstick fantasy adventuring party
The assistant game director, Robbie Stevens, commented on Twitter basically saying we are getting what we see in that image. His exact words were, "Everything you see here is FREE."
yes😃
I get a free house!?
In that case I'll take a free home, a cabal scorpius turret for home defence (as that's what the founding fathers intended) and maybe if I'm feeling quite greedy
A banana
There is a possibility that might not include the Tower in the background, but I suppose a little hope isn't going to hurt anyone.
It would be a wonderful surprise for everyone if we moved back or at least had access to this as the next H.E.L.M/Enclave/Public space, especially for new players coming in.
A change in scenery helps one feel at home.
@@Grayves_Ximagine we get a house in the city that would be kinda funny. You see people in their homes emoting in the windows
Does anyone feel that this image is what lightfall should have been?
And I think it would make a better story.
Imagine it for a moment.. where the witness and its forces invade the last city and you have to defend it...
But in the end we failed and the last city gets destroyed.
And the witness goes into the traveller.
Yeah when I saw a city in the Lightfall trailer at first I was like "It's finally happening!" But then it didn't and instead it ended up being one of the worst Destiny dlc's in terms of story.
@@Banana-BoiI thought I was the only one
Imagine Torobatl and Riis being freed from the Witness' grasp and we the Guardian help them all reclaim them as part of a campaign mission after Final Shape. I would love to see something like that unfold
Will be tweeting your idea to bungo. Definitely a great idea!
If I recall Riis was completely destroyed, and Torobatl was rendered inhabitable by hive corruption please correct me if I'm wrong. BUT I can easily see some Ex Duex Machina happening after the Witnesses defeat and having the Traveler pull some crazy crap and "fixing" the planets.
@@happystate2480tbf the travellers whole thing is terraforming and making bad planets hospitable (Venus, Mars, reef etc)
Instead of planets in the Sol system we have multiple galaxies we warp between with a couple planets in each, Riis and Torobotl being the main focuses taking the fight directly to the Darkness and Hive holding them. That would be the BEST way to continue the series.
That's exactly what I've been talking about wanting with my friends for the past couple years! Super stoked to see others are interested in the concept. It would be cool if we could somehow find a way to use our Light to restore Riis and Torabatl, instead of using it only for destruction
While my excpectations are lowered, i feel like an invasion of the last city is exactly whats going to happen. One: Bungie wouldn't show this picture as the first piece of content for this update, if the picture does not represent the new content, they aren't stuipid. They are deliberatly showing us this exact picture. Two: the update is definetly using a lot of old content, and considering the last city was already invaded, the assets for this type of event have been made years ago, so Bungie could easily repurpose them for this update
That ending makes me wish we had a destiny show
Like man red war was on a different level of cinematography
I feel that the initial pyramid ships came with the witness as basically a strike force to cause shock and awe. But what we didn't see was a large portion of ships held back for the moment to strike the final nail. I think this was all part of the plan and that the witness was going to try and wipe away all of the coalition. Or maybe the witness held back forces for if we got too close to entering the portal. We would then have to split forces making defense of our home harder and offense ever more so.
Ahh the classic Morgoth(Melkor) and Sauron tactic love it actually.
I doubt this is the case since it's been confirmed most of those pyramid ships are empty (as aggravating as that is).
It'd be cool if it was a ruse and the ships were full of Disciples and different enemy races, but I don't see that being something Bungie will do due to the immense cost it'd require.
Considering the fact that the new lorebook literally states that the Witness is toying with us to cause as much torment as possible, then yeah probably
Pure defense of the last city would honestly be the perfect time to bring hawthorne back. I doubt they ever will, but it would be nice to have her back considering how central she was too red war
Nice to have her do anything tbh, she's only been clans and rally banners for what 3/4 years?
Recently last wish raid stuff but likeeee eh
6-12 player hoard mode would be absolutely amazing! I'd enjoy it immensely
Shaxx is going to be in his element
I can’t help but feel that if the new content is in the last city then maybe this was part of the first version of lightfall.
Considering there are 3 live streams for this means it's big. Which doesn't make sense because it's only been in development for four or so months. Makes sense they would use scrapped stuff to fill some parts in.
I heard an unconfirmed leak a while back before lightfall, that xivu arath would invade the last city with the hive worms gods I think. Maybe that leak was true and was just repurposed for this update and without the worm gods
@@dropkick3024it might be big but best to keep expectations in check though just to be on the safe side.
@DragonKnight90001 I mean like content wise. I always keep my expectations low. I don't get why people would put their expectations high for a free dlc that was made in four months. FOUR MONTHS!!!
@@dropkick3024 true that’s very true there.
Ugh you make me feel old Byf! A freaking decade unbelievable
Imagine the upgrades the tower got. Not only did we spend like a decade repairing it but also integrating all sorts of new tech. The Coalition also probably gives it a huge boost in literally every department and with Neomuna and their "beyond golden age" gear the fleet and invasion don't stand a chance, we're too pissed to see it end like this lol.
Never underestimate bungie
There’s something incredible that we can call the destiny tower “our home” and have it actually feel like that. At least for me the tower does feel kind of like a home. Its genuinely a bit terrifying to see it under attack again. And while Red War had its issues seeing the City taken was something that really hit for me.
“You’re being invaded! Find them before they find you…”
How cool would it be to have another public space in addition to The Tower 1.0 and The Tower 2.0. I think it would be extremely cool to have a public space at the base of the tower, down in the Last City where you can walk around and meet a whole bunch of new characters (or returning characters who have wandered away for a time), and then go out and explore the world outside the Last City and visit some of the buildings you see down there.
This is strikingly close in concept to something I’ve had in my ideas docs for a long while now. Remains to be seen if they’ll sneak in some Vex shenanigans for extra flavor.
This does, however, feel like it should have been the prelude to Season of Defiance which was sorely missing. In the actual season, we for some reason are rescuing captured citizens with no actual idea as to how they got there in the first place. A City invasion like what is shown in this teaser would have nipped that issue in the bud quite nicely, so I see how some might be disappointed that it is only happening now, in the eve of The Final Shape.
I‘m just waiting for our (regretfully) immortal Boi Kelgorath to backstab sivu and become taken lord! or something
Kelgorath just straight up letting Xivu die: long live the king.
Amazing video, and the pre-finisher footage is greatly appreciated too! ❤️
I’ve been following you for years brother. It’s sooooo cool you have shorts now! Like, video shorts 😅 keep up the awesome work!!
My guess is that it could be Xiu Arath launching one last stitch effort to try and get back at us
Byf playing the classic music when talking about the tower, and continuously referring to it as our old home 😭 When that tower was our home, my biggest care in the world was how I was going to take down Phogoth. Oh how things have changed
Most interaction I've had with the people of the last city outside the tower was the live event leading up to Beyond Light. Since we got to jump from rooftop to rooftop, going down to the streets briefly and seeing actual people before heading back to the rooftops to look at the traveler.
We haven't had anything like that since. Closest thing we had was the eliksni quarter during Splicer and Plunder, but that was solely with the house of light.
I want to wander the streets at night, go visit like a park in the city. Make me have some sort of emotional attachment to the city I've worked for years to defend. Make me feel a lot of emotion while I'm down in the streets, fighting off the Hive and trying to save as many people as possible
Awesome video man!
I want to keep my excitement and expectations on a realistic level but that image had me asking the same questions; the black fleet and hive attacking? Vanguard colored turrents? Armor that looks like the sets we started off wearing vanilla D2's opening mission? I would like to see maybe the first and last mission of the Red War come back as one of the memory replay missions so people can experience it; it would also be so funny to take on Gaul with Strand or Stasis.
I love the look of the armors, like a upgraded form of the armor you see in the selection screen, also intrested in whats up with the golden glow on weapons
Im exited for the concept of a cabal and guardian to team up in a cinematic
Yes. Adding citizens that you and others save would be so cool. We work with fallen and awoken to save their people and our people would be amazing and good morale boost.
I will burst into tears laughing if it's Kelgorath leading an invasion.
Honestly, I would love seeing it as him being successful and the invasion was his idea after he was let unchained and all his failures were because of him being TOLD what to do. Like a " Let me show you what kind of threat I can become" and then he doubles down on everything that was done to us in the past.
@@darthcerebus I would actually like to see that! But I he would need to make a significate impact.
Kelgorath, Taken By War, Scourge of the Last City.
Great video byf, I'm curious about something. Will we ever get part 11 and 12 of the Clovis bray and exo lore?
We spent the last decade protecting and guardin the last city, it would be a shame if the game ended and we never evn got to actually see the last city.
Also, an horde mode with big mob density would be great in the current sandbox, add some rogue-lite elements and I would put hundreds of hours in it!
not see the last city, besides all the times we already have? (given most of those are long been vaulted)
Considering Lightfall was promoted to be this thriving neon city and ended up being barren as hell I think it's safe to expect the least from every situation from now on
@@oxsila idk what you mean by barren as hell,, did you mean for areas we are able to explore? Then sure i guess
@@iamboringvideos6832 I'm referring to 2 things really: The way the promotion made it seem like the city would be full of verticality and skyscrapers but in reality the patrol zone is just flat areas and they didn't have time to make a populated patrol zone of neomuni so instead just said they were in a cloud network
@@oxsila well there is preexisting last city assets
Finally I have been waiting for this video
Someone else has probably already mentioned it, but the Tower already looks like that in the Midtown crucible map, which is where the art seems to be based on. Looking back at old RUclips videos it seems like it has always looked like that.
This video made me remember how cool the Red War campaign was. I wouldn’t want to go back and deal with the old weapon system and slow movement/abilities, but if there was one thing they shouldn’t have vaulted, it was the Red War. New light experience now is so rough
Nice call from byf on getting hopes up
Generally when Bungie has released key art like this for updates/expansions it's fairly representative of what is actually contained within, at least in terms of the setting, so I am confident there will be an invasion of some kind. That said, I am like 90% sure the repaired tower is a continuity error; it wouldn't be the first time we've seen the tower looking repaired when it should not be (Beyond Light's F2P promo material, Midtown crucible map). I'd love to be wrong because I do really miss it, but I'm not getting my hopes up when I have already so many times.
Idk speaking the collectors edition of the next expansion comes with a statue of the tower so it would make sense it would show up in game
I hope that we will get a destiny tv show but they make it an anthology with each piece of lore having some episodes that would be so cool.
I can picture myself giving a speech to my gaming buddies the day before this
Listening to this after having see the Dev Streams is so wild cause the fear was there but it’s actually happening and we’re getting these things
I also think this is an opportunity for redemption and regaining trust of the people.
Particularly because of our use of the darkness has been giving the people of the last city mixed feelings about us as guardians.
If this truly is going to happen, our goal not only would be to defend the last city, but to show the people that despite everything, we are still guardians, using an element of darkness won't change that.
This could be a great opportunity to start setting up some new major villains for post Final Shape
Byf, have you seen several cones of Hive green fire at the edge of the Last City? We’ve been attacked when defenses are low and Guardian pride and egos are high. For example, at the end of Destiny 1, we’ve accomplished so much in 3 years conquering The Vault of Glass, Crota’s Brood, Skolas’s pirates, Oryx and the SIVA Crisis. We should have been more vigilant in our pursuit of guarding our home and the people inside the City.
this could even raise the question what happens if we have to travel into the traveler before this conflict is over. the question of "if we can ever return?" would be overcome by the "what will we return too?" or "are we leaving behind a group that will be defeated without us" because whatever happens it has been shown that we wont know the current events outside the travler while we are away.
Hear me out. Kelgorath and xivu conflict that turns into a attack on the city
Leaks said this so I think it’s true
Well, we will see what "Into The Light" is in 25 days on April 9th. On such short notice, I wouldn't hold my breath that this is going to be massive. If it is bigger, then Bungie was working on this way before Season of the Wish.
Yeah, I don't quite believe 100% that pushing back TFS was solely because of time constraint. Since there's only gonna be 2 "seasons" or whatever they're called now, we now have each one lasting for half a year staring in the middle of the year. That's not coincidence.
y'know, Torobatl (however you spell that planet) would be a good d3 planet. Part of our Post-Sol Guardians of The Galaxy phase lol.
Itd be really cool to see a vex disciple, like a sol divisive hydra or smth, integrated with the tech of its black fleet etc
that part you mentioned about a cabal, a splicer, a corsair, and a guardian all working together as a team is what Destiny was built on. the last stand at Six Fronts, or Twilight Gap, are those kinds of stories that made people give a damn about this story- heroes who did these great deeds we can really understand, legends. this is the time we can make more of those heroes, who can become the backbone of stories for years to come
fingers crossed its like Firefight. no matter what, i am SO excited at the prospect of actually getting to fight in the last city itself. fingers crossed
I remember having a conversation with my friends and they were so confused that there weren't just guardians in the last city, because it's never been explained well in the "base lore" (aka free to play and not a novel worth of reading) that conversation opened my eyes to the fact that the destiny lore, if you don't have a lore daddy like byf to explain and read everything, is very inaccessible and daunting at first
The scorpius turrets honestly look like a cumulative effort of the entire coalition. You have a Cabal design with Eliksni-styled armor plates and power, and of course the Vanguard logo. I didn't expect to be so excited about a little turret, but hey, I'll take it!
Also, I think Xivu will be our enemy here. She may have been banished, but she still has her worm. She must make war, or be consumed. I think she'll be at the forefront of the invasion, simply because she cannot afford not to be.
Something also to think about the future of Hive leadership, Alak-Hul still is alive and out there. His Ghost was never destroyed upon his death and we never had any foothold or any need to even stay in Oryx's temple, so keeping his body under lockdown and/or moving it like Savathun's is not believable at all.
I honestly don’t like that the most we’ve ever interacted with the last city has been when it’s an active combat zone or in literal ruins. It’s a bit wild that this is our home city and there’s never been a social area that’s inside it when it’s actually normal.
There’s part of the city we can see in crucible maps, and there was that one temporary social space during the season before beyond light when the traveler reawakened, also I dunno if you’d count it but there’s also the Eliksni quarter we’ve seen a few different stages of.
@@magnusthered9635 That’s what I’m saying the temporary one is pretty much the closest we’ve gotten and the eliksni area is like the first pseudo social space but it’s literal ruins of the Last city Botsa district repurposed to house fallen. We’ve never had a regular multicultural human filled building within the city, and even then we’ve literally never seen the central city where everything is highly developed.
I’ve invested so much time into this world. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Neomuna is still such an odd place.
If we do get last city invasion im hoping we get to redo red war as a reward after.
The shreikers in the art look funny. They’re so small they look like ghosts
Love the lore and the story
I think the pyramid tech is basically going to be spawners for different enemy types. I could see it having the cabal cloning tech. It woupd basically be the excuse why different enemy types and factions come in waves in s horde mode.
If they are making or upgrading old city locations then maybe this is a sign that the Red War is returning? Would make sense to do both together
My hopes are getting dangerously high
This is going to be interesting
I hope the tower being in the background on the image, repaired and all, means that we'll return. It'd be a great opportunity to introduce new players to it before we see it in the Final Shape. Maybe having 3 iconic weapons on the cover would imply some roguelike mode where we're given weapons to use?
Holy shit, that red war gameplay made me remember how slow we were before Warmind lol
assuming we do get a few missions or an activity that takes place in the last city where we fight off Xivu Arath's brood, I hope we end up fighting alongside the Lucent Brood as well. I mean they have plenty of reason to want to protect the traveler so it would be cool to see that.
i hope that armor is free or sell with birgh dust too, look so cool
The new Disciple is:
*"Taniks The Never Going Away"*
Season of Plunder was my first time back playing since Curse of Osiris to this day I have never put more hours into a season including Season of the Wish
Everyone seems to be forgetting that massive segment of the last city that appeared during the travellers awakening live event during arrivals. Yknow, the giant uniquely designed segment of the last city that was built from scratch and then only existed in the game for five hours. Ive been waiting for them to bring it back, and i think that might be whats gonna be used here
Could just be a lack of horizontal perspective of the tower area in the picture, but it looks like the wall to either side is also repaired. Could that mean it was also repaired or maybe this "invasion" doesn't occur in the actual city? Maybe a simulation or time travel to set up the context of the content?
I was thinking the same, what is going on? So we finally got around to fixing the tower just in time for the pyramid fleet to invade and destroy? I heard some streamers asking why the weapons are glowing and I thought straight away.... Barrier shield piercing. Looks like a hoard mode. Could be fun.
Very interesting
I think a lot of us are forgetting we are STILL in the lightfall year! Into the Light is the end of it and connects into The Final Shape. Not everything happens at once like a movie. Since it does have a seasonal format, one thing needs to be don’t at a time. We don’t know the time frame in-game either. We don’t know how long it’s been from the start of lightfall to into the light and the final shape. Could’ve been a few months
"What do I know?" Uh, everything Byf.
It needs to be an open area for us to explore. If it is The Last City, we need to be able to explore it like we explore other planets and such. The interaction with certain citizens could be patrols or just regular talking points. We need to see our knew allies, The Cabal and The Eleksni along side The Queens Gaurd, fighting against Hive. We need to see something that happens rarely. Something like seeing Ikora flying in and using her Warlock skills to wipe out a group of on a roof top or Shaxx and Saint-14 team up to take down an Oger. To me, seeing things like this would make it so imersive
The ItL image reminds me of a front cover of a comic book. It's dramatic, but once you turn the page it could turn out to be a simulation, an alternate universe or a dream.
This could very well be our last stand against The Witness, back in the old tower for one last showdown
I was so sure before Lightfall’s release that it’s intro mission would mirror the Red War and destroy the ’new’ tower, have us fight in the last city before going to Neomuna, then return to the rebuilt old tower. This picture looks exactly what I had in mind
GOSH I hope we actually get to go down and fight against large hordes of enemies in the Last City!
i'm gonna stay in the last city while the guardians deal with the witness
If into the light involves a major brawl between the city and an invasion of hive and pyramids in a combined arms all out war with the cabal and the house of light then honestly I’m more excited for this then the final shape
I believe this version of the last city is a moment captured in time that we will find within the traveller and the witness will be forced to call it's ships in to follow us "Into The Light"
I wonder if the VoD prophecy wall be resolved with Into the Light.
It would be great to see Eliksni and Cabal allies during the activity, fighting by our side against the Hive
I’d love the idea of having to go out from our solar system and hunt down disciples
That also looks like some sick class armor, and finally Warlock doesn't look goofy
My guess, this is a "if we don't succeed this is what will happen" type of prediction rather then a distinct event
Would be dope if it’s like that helldivers objective where you have to escort civilians to safe areas and defend them but instead wait for a ship to transport them while defending them from enemies. Each group of civilians saved increases rewards at the end
Assuming this is what this means that means all 4 of destinys original enemies have invaded or attacked the last city directly and the third time its happened in D2 alone, the battle of 6 fronts was the fallen, Red War was the cabal season of the splicer was the vex and into the light would be the hive and possibly the taken aswell?
Ima edit this, im not at all surprised it popped up but I made this comment like 2 or 3 minutes before he directly mentioned it lmao
I would hope thats its not just hype imagery and we get a eh activity. Having to hold off a full scale invasion of the city and then take the fight into the travler to the witness would be AWSOME. Would be a great way to build up to the big finale
I feel like Into The Light's content is cut Lightfall content.
I also feel like The Black Fleet invading The Last City does make sense. Crow entering the Travelar could be the reason why our home is getting invaded. The Witness now knows that we have found a way into the Travelar and it wants to stop us so how does it do it? By attacking our home and killing us all.
They will probably just re use a crucible map for the fights in the city, if that's what is happening
perhaps this battle scene is inside the traveler which explains why the tower is fixed... also the sky doesnt look earthly to me, unless theres some crazy sunset that we cant see or something