KK2 Autolevel Tuning and Explanation

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @nickfortes383
    @nickfortes383 9 лет назад

    this is the most concise, no BS explanation I've seen yet. I wish all YT videos were like this instead of 5-10 minutes of a guy wanting to hear himself talk until he finally gives the 1 minute demo you came for where you still don't gain any knowledge

  • @Painless360
    @Painless360 11 лет назад +4

    Thank you for a clear, useful explanation

  • @HisXLNC
    @HisXLNC 9 лет назад

    I'm in the process of tuning my first quad copter build and this is the first, plain English explanation I could find for all the settings. Good video.

  • @YamahaChris
    @YamahaChris 11 лет назад

    On behalf of all Noob and intermediate flyers I thank you for making something so many people have made complicated, look simple. After much reading and practice I managed to get my acro mode perfect but my auro level has always been rubbish and I couldn't work out why. You video showed me the right way to tune it. You're a genius

  • @robodeath
    @robodeath 11 лет назад

    I upgraded from a kkmulticopter board to a kk 2.0 board and the auto level is amazing. Thanks for explaining the trims, I was trying to trim on my transmitter and was getting no where, flies perfect for FPV now.

  • @MarkovAllTrades
    @MarkovAllTrades 11 лет назад

    FINALLY! Finally someone explains what P & I settings ACTUALLY mean and what they do, rather than just telling you what to set them to! Mate, can't thank you enough!!
    Oh, and also thanks for explaining the ACC trim! My quad does exactly that ALL THE TIME but had no idea how to fix it, since nobody explained what those settings do. Man, you should get paid to write the manual for the KK2 board!
    Please, if you have time, write up or video a segment on EVERY setting available.
    Cheers!

  • @irvan36mm
    @irvan36mm 11 лет назад

    THANK YOU for the best explanation of P Gains & P Limits.
    I am currently building a Hoverthings Flip FPV w/ a KK2 and hope to get it up & flying this weekend, thanks to your videos!!

  • @cj2006sd
    @cj2006sd 11 лет назад

    Thank for the video. Very quick, easy to understand and straight to the point. Definitely appreciate the explanation. I would love to also see one on height dampening for the kk2 as well. Thanks again!

  • @CaptainsCollection
    @CaptainsCollection 11 лет назад

    Fantastic! I am just getting my quad going and when I can formulate a set of questions I will get back to you.
    Equipment as Follows:
    Turnigy Talon 550 frame
    Turnigy 2836 1100KV motors
    KK2.0 FC board w/v1.2
    Qbrain 4X 25 amp ESC
    Orange 6 channel receiver
    LiPo 3S 1300 mah power
    Spektrum DX4e Transmitter
    Great job with the videos.
    Regards,
    Captain David A. Johnson

  • @mrmurder75
    @mrmurder75 11 лет назад

    This what us noobs needed. A straight forward explanation of how to adjust auto level. Thanks mate:-)

  • @Personal-dronesNet
    @Personal-dronesNet 11 лет назад

    Very clear video, now I understand self level gains in the KK2. Just fixed a bad drift in my micro quad with the accelerometer trimming. Thanks!

  • @angelor5339
    @angelor5339 8 лет назад

    I never tried the autolevel ,I get a sk450 by turnigym, after this video my quad is really stable, I even fix the rudder unstable problem, great thanks

  • @chrisstolle5664
    @chrisstolle5664 10 лет назад

    I have come back and watched this again and again. Thanks!

  • @MrMrwilem
    @MrMrwilem 11 лет назад

    flash your ESCs, make sure the axis are coupled, make sure props are balanced, make sure ESCs are all calibrated as described in the instructions or here in one of this guys great videos. My stock turnigy ESCs did ok. My Blue series had to be flashed to get rid of the jitters.

  • @jazzartphotography
    @jazzartphotography 11 лет назад

    FINALLY!!!! The KK2 Explained!!! This was an Awesome Video, I'm looking forward to dialing im my Tricopter with your Esc's on it. Thanks for this Much Needed Video, looking forward to all of your future Vids!!

  • @spidarx
    @spidarx 11 лет назад

    I really needed this. I have been trying to get some oscillations out of my quad, but I was only working with the pi editor, when I needed to work with auto level adjustments. Thanks and liked.

  • @Mac830302
    @Mac830302 11 лет назад

    This is exactly the kind of video I need cause I'm looking att building my own quad with the KK 2.0 board and 450mm size frame.
    Very good information, Thank you :)

  • @truthseekers666
    @truthseekers666 11 лет назад

    You explain things very well... concise and clear. Please keep going.

  • @snaprollinpitts
    @snaprollinpitts 11 лет назад

    Thanks Don, I've never seen anyone explain it that well. thanks mike

  • @aaronjae7428
    @aaronjae7428 11 лет назад

    Wow.......i've pretty much just ignored the ACC settings up 7ntil now since its not really listed in anyones initial setup videos for the kk2, but damn it if you didnt make me smack myself in the forehead that it took setting up a gimbal to figure it out.....great simple, concise, & logical explanation for autolevel & acc setups.....THANKS!

  • @pmessinger
    @pmessinger 11 лет назад

    You must have heard me wondering why nobody had explained the way you just did. Thanks for a much better explanation and demonstration of PID settings. I wish you could explain some things about some of the Multiwii GUI functions now.

  • @Cyberdactyl
    @Cyberdactyl 11 лет назад

    Most excellent explanation. Really helped boost my grasp of auto-level.

  • @biddygerm
    @biddygerm 11 лет назад

    We all love you man, keep the great educational videos coming.

  • @madmartydiver1
    @madmartydiver1 10 лет назад

    great video and explanation have just bought an HJ 450 which the seller dumbed down for me so now i will be able to perk it up abit as i get better at flying it. All this Gain stuff was a total mystery to me until i watched your video i have Subscribed to your channel so hope you will keep posting this sort of information GREAT JOB :)

  • @AndyRCchannel
    @AndyRCchannel 9 лет назад +1

    best video iv seen on this subject by far cheers

  • @davygarrett
    @davygarrett 11 лет назад

    cheers for this..... and for information on one of your forum posts where you recommended that the original poster should do a factory reset on his KK 2.0 board, and attempt to fly the quad again.... I followed your info and now my quad flies as sweet as a nut.... cheers buddy...

  • @dem0n1k
    @dem0n1k 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the great explanation! I previously had totally the wrong idea about autolevel P limit... I thought it was just the denominator in a ratio with the gain. Thanks!

  • @Cheeseoverdose
    @Cheeseoverdose 10 лет назад +7

    Ok great video, but what about the I settings under the P settings

  • @ExperimentalAirlines
    @ExperimentalAirlines 11 лет назад

    Big help man, thank you very muchI So to conclude, is it safe to say 1) acro P&I settings have no influence on flight with self-leveling on, and 2) "I" setting in acro is attempting to hold attitude established by stick input whereas the implied "I" setting in self-level is always just the same as attitude when armed on the ground.....hence no I setting in self-level menu? My lightbulb moment awaits....

  • @SwapnilNimbalkar
    @SwapnilNimbalkar 7 лет назад +1

    Nice one. Thank you. The car on the left has no license number or any company logo? Confusing......

    • @iGaximus
      @iGaximus 7 лет назад

      Some states don't require a front plate

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 лет назад

    that is referring to the PI settings which are separate from the auto level settings. I'm only talking about the AutoLevel Settings in this video.

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 лет назад

    Are you getting vibrations? Have you balanced the props and made sure your tail control is nice and tight? I've had the tails shake so bad it causes flips on Tri's before. I'm generally not a huge fan of them for that reason.

  • @ThePhilleboy
    @ThePhilleboy 11 лет назад

    Very good and informative video!! But I've got one question, do you know if the "normal" PI settings matter if you use self/autolevel on KK2.0?

  • @cam_3d
    @cam_3d 11 лет назад

    Definitely loaded the tricopter model on the KK2?
    How long before it flips?
    Checked all ESCs?
    I built the RC-Explorer tricopter, no balancing on props or motors, basic tail tilt mechanism. Only time it has ever flipped is when I was messing with the auto-level settings,

  • @rotorhead1624
    @rotorhead1624 11 лет назад

    Excellent explanation. I always wondered about ACC trim. Thank you for sharing!! Keep up the good work.

  • @hounddog1011
    @hounddog1011 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the review/tutorial. That is a very smooth quad you have there. Very cool.

  • @freeebord
    @freeebord 11 лет назад

    I mounted my KK on the F550 frame with vibration insulating foam and velcro, it allows me to have a little 'give' in the vibrations and lets me remove things pretty easy :)

  • @didge110
    @didge110 10 лет назад

    Thankyou very much good sir, I had to go through and change the settings whilst watching the video and then it all made sense - very well explained.
    cheers Gerald

  • @2wheelparts
    @2wheelparts 9 лет назад

    Great video man. Quick to the point and perfect amount of info. Sweet background beats too! Thanks man.

  • @SirArghPirate
    @SirArghPirate 11 лет назад

    Very informative. My problem is that the quad tries to flip over when I'm activating self level. If it's in flight it will promptly tilt and go straight backwards and into ground. If I'm activating selv level while on ground it will try to flip backwards when I'm increasing throttle. Adjusting the trim and P gain/limit doesn't seem to affect this at all. I'm using version 1.5. What can be wrong?

  • @andymccheyne7875
    @andymccheyne7875 11 лет назад

    Awesome instructional vid. Thank you. Your kk2 vids have helped me immensely. Cheers bro.

  • @jerryzito6840
    @jerryzito6840 10 лет назад

    Hi..very informative videos. On my tricopter, I will fly away from me, then I will turn nose in toward me, but the copter snaps back 180 degrees away from me. No matter how many time i turn toward me, it snaps back. What do I need to change?

  • @SeanDuffyProductions
    @SeanDuffyProductions 11 лет назад

    Great video, which frame are you using on the quad in this video?

  • @cardsmen6387
    @cardsmen6387 7 лет назад

    i made a quadcopter myself using the same kk board but i am not getting stable flight
    no lift off
    what could be the problem?

  • @esavage25
    @esavage25 11 лет назад

    Hey, I love your vids! Can you tell me what should I do when height is hard to control? Small th inputs make quad speeding up in to the sky or dropping like a stone.
    Thanks!

  • @darkrose3344
    @darkrose3344 7 лет назад

    Hello, i am having problem in test flight. When i turned on it rotates randomly . Could u tell me about pi settings that i could change. It is difficult to control landing, either it goes too high or crash.

  • @GeoffroAU
    @GeoffroAU 11 лет назад

    Fantastic video, great explanations. I watched hobbykings tutorial and they had the pgain at 100, which gave me the high speed oscillations with the overshoots, would take off well but after 3-4 seconds the wobble kicked in, but thanks to you I actually know what im doing now lol.

  • @HiFlyer371
    @HiFlyer371 11 лет назад

    Nice work and explained so that a newbie can understand.

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 лет назад

    have you calibrated your sensor? lay your quad on a flat and level surface and go in to sensor calibration

  • @vfrvtec
    @vfrvtec 11 лет назад

    Just got my kk2 for my hexacopter im building.Whats the best way to mount it to my 550 frame ie, hard mounted or double sided foam.
    Any input would be great thanks.

  • @yugansharora174
    @yugansharora174 6 лет назад

    thaxx bro was searching for this from a long time thaxx alot

  • @ervmister
    @ervmister 10 лет назад

    Dhracer Running a q450 quad with kk2.1 version 1.9s1 software and am having issues with p and i gains any help on this thanks

  • @SeanDuffyProductions
    @SeanDuffyProductions 11 лет назад

    Thanks for the quick reply! I'm guessing you don't ship your parts outside the US?

  • @TheBishonator
    @TheBishonator 11 лет назад

    If i use a different battery does it affect the settings? because I usually use a 3s lipo but when i use my 4s lipo I get this 'high speed oscillation' you described in the video? HELP !!!!

  • @mrmurder75
    @mrmurder75 11 лет назад

    I have had to dial my p gain down to 9 to stop the it shaking while setting up the auto level, giving me virtually no stick control, even with the I gain way up high. Evidently my issue lies elsewhere, but I don't know where. Any suggestions as to what I should do? thanks

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 лет назад

    to arm the auto level using the stick, hold your throttle at mid level right, and you other stick to bottom left, The Aux setting is for when you want to assign Auto level to a channel switch, so you do not have to use the above method but this requires a separate channel.

  • @rohanmaan5190
    @rohanmaan5190 4 года назад

    I tried self-level and it drifts to either positive or negative pitch, could you tell me how to resolve that.

  • @ChristopherSooTho
    @ChristopherSooTho 11 лет назад

    Another great video. Keep up the good work. Would you be doing a video on 'height dampening' settings for the KK2?

  • @jkflorida
    @jkflorida 11 лет назад

    Nice video. My quad always has a rudder trim problem. Do you have any idea why?

  • @aksdiyprojects1999
    @aksdiyprojects1999 2 года назад

    Very good and much informative session!!!loved it!!keep going
    I ve a hk x525 frame, 30 a generic escs, kk2.1.5 FC, batt 4000 amh 3s!!can you pls saggest best appropriate motors for the same?
    Thanks in adv

  • @rcflightseeker3488
    @rcflightseeker3488 10 лет назад

    Let's say I have a separate battery supply for my KK 2 board, and I plan to use it on my plane not quadcopter. If the battery supply to the KK board dies out, will my receiver still power my servos? Or would I lose all control except throttle?

    • @johnrobertson7583
      @johnrobertson7583 10 лет назад

      You would have to make sure you lift either the signal wire and pin from your cables, or the + and - pins from any of the cables coming from the rx to the fcm, and insulate them with spare pin shrouds, and only leave the signal wires if you want to totally have separate power. If you dont, your power sources will be mixed since the power pins at the M1 set are common to ALL the input pins of the KK. Your receiver never powers your servos, except maybe the M1, if you are supplying it Rx-FCM-Thr. Now if youre running some 5 or 6 heavier duty servos, your BEC in your ESC cant handle that load. For that you need a power source going to the M2-M8 pins of the KK, those are a separate bus from the M1. So bottom line: the rx and kk CAN be powered together, and a separate battery for anything controlled off the M2-M8 pins.

  • @walkingdaveoutdoors
    @walkingdaveoutdoors 10 лет назад

    Having a issue with my quad as she is wobbling going forward and on decent
    please can help

  • @aymanfatani
    @aymanfatani 10 лет назад +1

    Hey there dhdsracer, I have a problem with my quad it keeps turning around itself slowly when hovering on the air, any idea ? thanks

    • @dhdsracer
      @dhdsracer  10 лет назад

      Make sure all your motors are leveled first. After that it i is ok to trim your yaw at the TX.

  • @vishalbalaaji5105
    @vishalbalaaji5105 7 лет назад

    how to turn on the self leveling or auto level. it shows me a error that self leveling is off

  • @stvygr
    @stvygr 10 лет назад

    great video and great explanations, have you ever thought of doing a video explaining how to use PI editor adjustments ?

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab 10 лет назад

      P is the primary correctional coefficient. It looks at one moment in time and dials in adjustment of various amplitude based on its "gain" so yes, it can somewhat be considered a sensitivity setting or, how much it's going to correct. Limit is how POWERFUL the P term is, or how much motor power is used to execute the correction (user input has nothing to do with this). A large gain and small limit will make that large gain not very effective. I is a secondary correctional coefficient which looks at current vectors but also takes P into account and makes adjustments over time. The goal of I is to avoid exaggerated adjustments. This can be conceptually thought of as 'when to let go of the gas so as to avoid overshooting your target'; smooths things out. You must tune both P and I to achieve quick, accurate adjustments (typically for acro) because you want P to respond fast and hard but you need I to adjust the correction AFTER it's initially made to avoid the sloppyness of fast and hard. I'm not sure that's all 100% correct, but I just spent a while figuring it out so I hope it helps someone else too.

  • @Pauldouglas691
    @Pauldouglas691 11 лет назад

    Great vid i have a kk2 coming and this really helps.

  • @jordanlittle866
    @jordanlittle866 11 лет назад

    I noticed you sell preflashed escs on your website.. I will definitely be purchasing 3. I have a question though, I just ordered a kk2 board, if it comes with 1.2 firmware as advertised would you be willing to flash it to 1.5 firmware for money?

  • @gatwaytoairgunsworldwide4912
    @gatwaytoairgunsworldwide4912 10 лет назад

    What do you change if it drifts to the rear?
    Thank You

  • @knlg
    @knlg 9 лет назад

    hey bro....i would love if you post a step by step video for setting up p and i values within effect on quad stability.

  • @bazilking
    @bazilking 11 лет назад

    why when im doing a flat rotation does my quad not stay level its perfect when hovering in front of me ?

  • @GurdeepSingh-xz6wg
    @GurdeepSingh-xz6wg 8 лет назад

    hi i am using kk2.1.5 with 1.6 firmware and my recevier test is not working so what I can do

  • @simobouryal1604
    @simobouryal1604 9 лет назад

    Hello thank you so much for your time making these video ,but i have some problem and i really need help, as I'm new in these hobby !! so I did all calibrations it need to be done and power my remote on first and the kk21. second. ,and motors still won't move , i don't know why !! and I couldn't get self level on its always off ,thank you for your time

  • @theflyinghamster8442
    @theflyinghamster8442 9 лет назад

    Great video, very helpful ! many thanks , keep them coming please!

  • @sunbird327
    @sunbird327 11 лет назад

    Can you do a video explaining the p and I gain and limit for when you're not in auto level? I have a hard time flying without auto level, my quad feels very fast and I can't fly it... Maybe I'm just not good enough yet? Thanks

  • @gregorcekon5779
    @gregorcekon5779 10 лет назад

    How do you turn like this?
    Thanks

  • @notasixpack
    @notasixpack 11 лет назад

    i just solved this for my quad. Not sure if you are using 3.5mm bullet connectors but one of those on my front left motor was bad. NOT the solder.. the bullet itself. It was the male end. If the bullet rotates too easily, replace it. Not sure if this applies to you but hope it helps.

  • @HyperJoe
    @HyperJoe 10 лет назад

    I've looked all over for this explanation on the KK2 board, so glad you posted this vid, helps a bunch, thanks! I also question as did "Nathan JR" what about the I settings, mine are at "zero" I'm guessing, that's a NULL setting making it inactive?
    Thanks agian for sharing Your knowledge..Awesome Vids! :D

  • @Personal-dronesNet
    @Personal-dronesNet 11 лет назад +1

    Dhdsracer I have a question. Do you think the gains set in the "normal" PID settings menu (not the auto level menu) will affect at all the craft behavior when in auto level? Or are the normal PID settings only used when in manual mode?

    • @cup_and_cone
      @cup_and_cone 11 лет назад

      I have the same question. Did you ever find an answer to this? Hoping someone can anser.
      I've always tuned the self-leveling and regular PI menu's completely independently. I never tried to tune one then switch from self-leveling into acro or vice-versa and see if there was a change.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab 10 лет назад +1

      Yes, the regular PI settings DO affect the craft when in auto-level mode albeit not nearly as much as when auto-level is off. Auto-level will just correct on top of what the PI settings are doing so it's continuously taking over...

  • @genevacoast
    @genevacoast 9 лет назад

    what if it is rotating to the left , like a left stick to the left would do? also why does mine say auto level off in safe mode? how do I turn it on?

    • @HuwFerris-John
      @HuwFerris-John 9 лет назад

      you need to hold the right stick to the right when in safe to turn that on

  • @oliverg98
    @oliverg98 11 лет назад

    That's all well and good but what dose auto level actually do?

  • @Little_Foxx
    @Little_Foxx 11 лет назад

    who did the skid outside your house?

  • @seanjuan1973
    @seanjuan1973 11 лет назад

    Great video! I had all but given up on the KK2 because that stuff has made no sense. thanks for the GOOD INFO. NOW... work on that brushless gimble! I am VERY interested!!

  • @jaysonragasa7902
    @jaysonragasa7902 11 лет назад

    Do you know anything about the problem when doing a yaw, left or right, the quadcopter also tilts? even when the quadcopter is hovering? I know when doing yaw, it should yaw flat. Like when doing a yaw to the left, the quad also tilts to the left.

    • @Kabab
      @Kabab 10 лет назад

      Balance might be off or your limits might be too low. Probably none of those but maybe an idea leading to another...

    • @janfuit4796
      @janfuit4796 10 лет назад

      Perhaps you got mixing on? Sounds like it.... i am flying with tricopter with 30% mixing "rudder/yaw" and "aileron/roll".... so, when i move aileron, it will turn and also roll in a direction.....

  • @ayuminor
    @ayuminor 11 лет назад

    Thanks, very helpful and to the point. too bad I already read a 20 page documentary on PI controllers to learn about it,

  • @mraverage1976
    @mraverage1976 10 лет назад

    Hi!! GREAT VIDEO!!
    Can anyone help with my problem-Its my first quad build using st360, stock motors, kk2, power distribution board, 2200mah 3 cell and 4 channel hk transmitter and receiver.
    The problem i have is the quad takes off but then comes back down, every attempt is the same? Only reaching 2-3 foot off the ground.
    Weight is 850 grammes.
    Thanks.

  • @turrboot6763
    @turrboot6763 9 лет назад

    hi
    I have a problem may you help me please .
    when i turn on self level my xcopter be vibration

    • @180paintball
      @180paintball 9 лет назад

      +turrboo t sounds like your P gain could be too high

  • @Georgehanes-GJH105775
    @Georgehanes-GJH105775 9 лет назад

    Could you do one of the KK with Steveis firmware? Also what setting would cause the quad to loose height every time you pitch or roll?

  • @SirArghPirate
    @SirArghPirate 11 лет назад

    I found of later what was wrong. I was using the 'gear'-channel to turn the autolevel function on/off and it turned out that on my radio this switch was also linked to the 'aileron'-channel (I used this radio with an airplane earlier and the grear-switch to turn flaps on/off). When I corrected it everything worked fine, and still does.

  • @allabouthim03
    @allabouthim03 10 лет назад

    I have a kk2.1.5 in a mini quad. I don't get oscillation, but the quad will just quickly flip upside down as crash. Any ideas?

    • @Cheeseoverdose
      @Cheeseoverdose 10 лет назад

      same problem

    • @abenwinUT
      @abenwinUT 10 лет назад

      You might check your motors and props. When standing behind your quad, the upper left and lower right motors should be CW and the upper right and lower left motors should be CC. If that is the case then check the props. The leading edge of the prop should be the upper edge. Hope this helps.

    • @Cheeseoverdose
      @Cheeseoverdose 10 лет назад

      I fixed mine. I got confused about the motor layout.

  • @muzzakaz7742
    @muzzakaz7742 11 лет назад

    Great video. Hey would you know why my KK2 450quad always reverts back to drifting even when all my settings prior did eliminated the drifting issue, roughly after 1min of flying time,
    my quad starts to drift again and it gets worse the longer I keep it in the air, its bugging me big time, could you please let me know if there is a solution to this, or has anyone here experienced the same problem and was able to fix it. cheers.

  • @rifted
    @rifted 11 лет назад

    What is your motor, ESC, prop, set up?

  • @MarkLutze
    @MarkLutze 11 лет назад

    TheBishonator - a guess on this but since a 4s will weigh more then a 3s it will shift the center of mass and change the flight characteristics of the craft.

  • @dhdsracer
    @dhdsracer  11 лет назад

    This is a Talon 2 frame with my RCMC motors and ESC's.

  • @milgar11
    @milgar11 11 лет назад

    Now i know how to compensate for my quad backwards drift.. Thanks!!

  • @FAIRDINKIUM
    @FAIRDINKIUM 11 лет назад

    I hear a lot about " flashing the ESC's " - I'm a complete noob at all of this so the more information the better...I know what an ESC is and what it does...but how and why would you "flash" one? Also, ( while I'm at it ) - there have been people saying that there are versions of the KK 2.0 board that have "dud" firmware and you have to either get an earlier version of it or up-grade it... Has this problem been fixed yet? and WHICH version of the KK 2.0 do I look for that's NOT "buggy"?

  • @suhassalunke7882
    @suhassalunke7882 5 лет назад

    hi bro my drone is not in good stability and its not flying in the proper way can you please guide me

  • @ron888100
    @ron888100 11 лет назад

    yes, at higer voltage, your motors response quicker, which produce the oscillation

  • @akarshanmishra2351
    @akarshanmishra2351 7 лет назад

    hey man my quad f450 has a problem that all it's motor aren't turning on at same time what to do now pls do help man.

    • @reubenb9511
      @reubenb9511 7 лет назад

      Akarshan Mishra try setting minimum throttle higher

  • @ayuminor
    @ayuminor 11 лет назад

    what about the I gain and I limit?

  • @DrWestSide1
    @DrWestSide1 10 лет назад


    I have a kk2.1.5 in a home made quad.The quad will just quickly flip upside down when up stick . someone can help me?