How to Install Decomposed Granite (DG) Step by Step.
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Hey guys! This is my process of installing decomposed granite. DG is a pretty incredible product, and there's so many different uses for it in the landscape. In this video we are going to look at a step by step process of how to install it in a pathway or patio. We discuss everything from demo and preparation, to what kind of edging to use (steel edging, pressure treated wood, and composite, aka bender board), how to install the weed barrier (geotextile fabric), and what calculations you should use to order the correct amount of DG to fill your area. We also look at what kinds of tools are needed, like a vibratory (compactor) plate, and a tamper. There are a lot of techniques used here and please keep in mind that these can vary a bit. But this is a great basic easy process of installing DG. I'd rate it about a 6 or 7 out of 10 on the difficulty scale. So if you are up for a good DIY weekend project that will yield a pretty awesome result, this is it!
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Here is the formula I use to calculate the amount of DG we need to fill a space.
L (length) X W (width) X H (height) / 27
Note: Make sure the measurements of L, W, and H are all in feet. Then divide by 27 and this will give you the cubic yards needed.
OK guys, I really hope this helps...let me know if you guys decide to try and how it comes out! It's often hard to hit every single detail in a short video, so feel free to shoot over any questions!
Happy DG'ing!
-Dom
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This is excellent. Thank you for not having a long intro with your song, your life motto, your kids and pets and chit chat about what you've been going through the last 24 hours before this video was made! All I need are the "how to's." And you delivered!
Be advised all DIYers some bulk yards have more than one grade of DG: the lower cost DG has more pebbles and is coarser. Suitable for a driveway, not best for cosmetics. For walkways and best looks ask for screened DG which is finer and compacts better and is more stable. Looks better.
Now I read this lol
Thank you so much for this tip. It saves me lots of headache and backhurt
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Have to ask. Can I use this as a base to put a storage shed on?
Yes that should not be a problem in drier climates. For wetter climates, I would recommend road or paver base or some kind of compactable gravel that will provide better drainage than DG.
Followed this video 2 years ago for my first DG install at my house- came back for a refresher because the first install was so successful I’m now doing two more areas including a nice sitting area under a giant sycamore with a bench swing. First was a 4 cu.yd install, this one is 9! Thanks so much
Reading this made my day!!! So glad to be of help with your projects!! Thank you so much for the comment… and good luck on the project! 😎🙏🏼
@@BudgetPlants just finished yesterday and the wife couldn’t believe the transformation when she came outside. Had my 2yo boy out there helping, shoveling and of course playing with just dirtbike and monster truck toys on the piles
Incredible!!! And that’s super special you had the little guy help. He might not remember but it creates bonds that last forever. Love it!
I've watched thousands of landscaping 'how-to' videos lately (o.k - major exaggeration lol) and so happy that I just found yours. I am a newbie to working in the yard in my house in Los Angeles and I find your vids very helpful. I ripped out the turf in my small front yard and going H2O tolerant - I've settled on a DG pathway and landscape rock so far - but looking for more inspiration.
Hey there Paul, thank you for the kind words! That’s awesome that you started on your project...it will be incredibly rewarding looking back knowing you did it yourself!! DG is a great choice...I hope that goes well for you! I’m actually working on another video about a lawn replacing plant called Dwarf Carpet of Stars. It goes hand in hand with drought tolerant landscapes. You might want to look into that for a ground cover for you project. Well feel free to reach out if you have any questions along your way. Thanks for watchin!
- Dom
Finally! A easy to follow, simply explained tutorial! Thank you!!
My pleasure!!
Yes! Please do more tutorials like this please! You should also consider some maintenance videos about plants and other things in the landscape
Any tips on how to estimate/give prices to clients?
Heeeeey Gus! Thanks for watchin man. Yeah will definitely do more like these. For pricing, I usually use square footage or linear footage formulas for each aspect of the landscape. Sometimes that will change depending on the site conditions, but the SF and LF gives me a good base line. But you have to calculate that out first for each elements. Include labor, material, and overhead. Hope this helps!
I had been trying to figure out a way to work on my front/backyard, and this is ideal!! I saw it on a friend's yard and then came straight to youtube (for the details). Thanks for a simple straight forward explanation! 👍
Awesome!! Glad I could help :)
Thank you so much for making this tutorial! Now I know I'd rather save the money to have someone install our project for us so it looks just right:) This video is terrific and really, really helpful. Thank you!
Ahhh thanks Megan!! Really appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
- Dom
Hey, Thank you. I wasn't sure about the stabilizer.
After watching many tutorials, this is one of the best..well explained ones, wish all were explained and presented like this one…
Keep up the work , you deserve more views!!!
And I’m pretty sure the view counts are already getting better!!
Thank u soooooo much!! Really appreciate that and make me want to keep making vids :))
Glad I found this. Perfect affordable Mother’s Day give for the kids and I to do
Wow that was a great video. I’m fully confident I can do this job based on that very clear explanation.
Awesome!! Please feel free to reach out with any questions you might have along the way.
- Dom
Thanks for this. We now feel we have a basic knowledge of how to install DG. Very helpful. This will be perfect for our backyard in East Contra Costa County.
Awesome!! Glad this could help you guys. Feel free to reach out with any questions in the process. Good luck!
- Dom
Pepper Tree Villa - Hi! I live in Concord and we’re thinking of DG. Just wondered if you installed it, whether you hired someone or DIY, how it went. Thanks!
whirlygirl8 We haven’t yet installed it. Our backyard project stalled due to a problem with our contractor. But we plan to install it ourselves. We have a friend that has worked with it before that is going to help.
This is SUCH high quality content. Like, wow.
Thanks James!! Really appreciate that… very encouraging 😎
Great video, I wish him all the best in his hair loss journey. Very informative.
One of the best videos I've seen. Clear and easy to understand.
Thanks so much for the kind words!! Much appreciated 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thank you for a great explanation of DG. (And I did have fun!)
Great explanation video thank you for breaking down the process.
My only complaint is that I'm in Australia and we speak metric measurements.
Cool! This is exactly what I’ve been looking for!
Great video. Thank-you for sharing!
Thanks!!! Much appreciated
Thank you for the to the point video!
Thanks for watchin! 😎
Well done. Just the facts. Just what I was looking for. Many thanks.
My pleasure 😎 Thanks for watchin!
Thanks for the video. Very clear, easy to understand and a valuable instructions for us to do it. Congrats !
Thank you for the video, it's great. I'm super happy you mentioned screened DG because I was really looking for something finer. I have a QUESTION, I saw in other tutorials that you need to install DG in multiple layers and wet each layers so it compacts better. Is it necessary? Thank you very much
Sure thing! So yes, some folks do it in layers. It’s necessary if you don’t have a vibratory plate and are just doing it by hand. But if you rent the machine, you should be able to do it one one shot. However, you may need to add more once it’s compacted and do it again because it will compact pretty far down.
You should add a refractory with the granite and then wet it for better results. You can also add various colors of clay to change the look. Thanks for the vid.
Will this help the DG to stay put?
What is a refractory?
Great explanation, thank you!
Thanks for watchin!
- Dom
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If I have loamy soil and I opt for a layer of road base, how many inches deep should I choose? Does the road base sit on the fabric or under it? Thanks! Great video.
Such a fantastic and easy-to-understand video, thank you! Quick question, when in the process would we plant the succulents? Before or after laying and compacting the DG?
Thanks so much! So that can be a tricky bit about planting in DG. I like to use a much thinner layer of DG when planting through it. And I also leave it in compacted directly around the base of the plant. It’s very important to have no more than an inch of DG as a top layer around the base.
Great video! Thanks so much!
So you don’t have to add any water to cure it or make it harder? How long does it take to go from tamped dirt to a hard as rock surface? How long before you can get water on it if there are plants nearby? Does heat hasten the process? iI thought the whole point of it was that it was hard enough to discourage weeds WITHOUT weed cloth. Lovely video. I’m doing a 2 inch edge between concrete but I need drainage….
Good questions! So most DG comes with a low amount of moisture content (especially when delivered in bulk) and is often times enough moisture to tamp and compact. You may need to lightly sprinkle surface when compacting if need be. And weed barrier is not a must. We have actually been doing more installations without weed barrier and it’s just as effective (given the proper sun grade compaction). And yet, on a hot day, water will most likely need to be added during compaction. But not much. Otherwise it makes the vibratory plate sticky and causes mud. It will generally take a solid week to harden but can be walked on after a couple days usually. A little water won’t hurt it. In fact it’s beneficial to very lightly sprinkle the surface the following couple days to extend the drying process to help prevent cracking.
Thank you. That is very helpful!
Love the video. Planning out my yard now. Do you have a video about planting and irrigating in DG? Looking to do a dessert landscape with mostly succulents. Thanks!
Awesome! Sooo I’m actually in progress of a video about DG and irrigation… so funny you asked about that! Should be out later next month as I still need to complete the project. In general, you can use blank 1/2” drip tubing, then insert a fixed drip emitter wherever you have a plant. The drip lines get stapled down and buried in the DG. Thank way nothing shows above ground other than the small emitter at the base of the plant! Check this short vid… although it’s not in DG, this gives an idea of the drip line configuration..
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@@BudgetPlants Fantastic! Thanks again.
Very, very good and helpful video. And inspiring. Gonna give it a go!
Awesome thanks Peter!
- Dom
Very helpful video. Thanks.
Thanks for watchin 😎
Excellent information. thankyou.
Thanks 🙏💓
Great video, however I thought it was not a good work method to lay weed fabric as the dg will not bond to the soil and be more vulnerable to shift causing premature surface cracks.
Thanks! great video, going for it this weekend!
Niiiiice! Hope it turns out great!
Very good job. Thanks! Clear explanation of DG. The Zoolander spoof at 1:15 was fun.
Many thanks Gus! Glad you enjoyed, and thanks for watchin!
- Dom
really enjoyed this thank you.
Thank you for the great video. At 4:35 , you mention excavating soil to be 2.5" below the edging or hardscaping, and at 6:15 you mention using a 3" height of decomposed granite. Is the extra .5" to compensate for compacting the DG? Also, how deep should the layer of road base be? Should we then be measuring 2.5" from the top of the road base to the edging/hardscape? Thanks again.
I have the same question!
Keep it up good info..
Thanks Rajesh!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼😎
When would you need to use roadbase vs fine using the dirt you already have? Is it all whether the current soil does a good job of soaking in the water? This video has been super helpful! Thank you!
Thank you for making this! I've seen others recommend incremental additions of layers of DG: layer; compact then wet; next layer; compact then wet; repeat. 1/4 -1/2 " at a time. Any thoughts?
Amazing video, thank you! One question: If I were to planning to plant succulents into the DG, at what stage do you recommend doing it?
nice video Thanks
Thanks for watchin!
Great explanation and demo!
DG thank You so much for sharing Your knowledge easy to understand vide right on
My pleasure!...glad to help. Thanks for watchin!
- Dom
Thanks for the video, it was well done. One question that I can't seem to find an answer to is when does one need roadbase under the DG?
Thanks! So in most cases the road base is not really necessary in residential applications. It’s helpful if you have heavy clay soil, and/or if the DG will be taking any vehicle traffic.
Very helpful. Thx
Thanks for watching Robert!
-Dom
Hi Dominic,
You’re a very effective presenter of your videos.
Now the hard part, how can I hire someone like you, Lol.
I live here in the 95206 area.
I’d like to convert my front and backyard into DG landscape.
Any recommendations from my area who can carry out and practice what you preaches on your video?
Would be glad if you can help me out.
More power to you, you’re the best thing that ever happened to the landscaping business.
Keep it up as people would patronize a good blog when they see one. 👍🏻
THANKS so much for the kind words!! Just makes it all worth while ❤️❤️ I wish I had someone I could recommend up in your area but alas.. I don’t :( If you have specific questions or need direction on your project I’d be happy to help! Feel free to email me any time. dominic@budgetplants.com
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The exact covering for transforming our backyard into a desert oasis! One question and my answer is probably buried in comments, but at what stage in the project do you lay pavers? Thanks!
Outstanding video!
Many thanks!!!!
When replacing grass with DG, what do you recommend doing with the existing sprinklers and water lines in place?
Great video! Have you added 'flagstone' that would be flush with the DG? Any suggestions that would change the process? I would think the flagstone wouldn't sit directly on the road base, but would need a layer of the DG to sit on. And then there's the vibratory plate : ). Thanks!
Great video. Just wondering if the edging is a must? I’m planning a naturalistic dry garden with a path winding through and would prefer not to have a hard edge, unless it’s necessary… Thanks!
Edging is not necessary if you want a natural look that ‘bleeds’ into adjacent planter spaces. You can do this for a more organic informal feel.
@@BudgetPlants Great, thanks, the answer I was hoping for!
Hello! I’m wondering the brand of composite edging and stakes used in this video. Thanks so much for providing quality content :)
Thanks for the kind words! So I like the kind that Ewing Irrigation and Landscape has. They are a national company and I believe they do provide delivery to major areas. If there’s not a local Ewing, Lowe’s has decent edging. Just don’t get the black tubes edging in rolls. Good luck!
What is the best way to keep weeds out of the DG? Also, can you use DG directly adjacent to artificial grass? Than you for the video, it was great!
Thanks! Weeds do occasionally get into DG, most often right at the edging. The best thing to do is just hand pull any weeds that might pop up. You can also spot treat as needed with an herbicide or a vinegar solution. Using topical liquid hardener does also help prevent weeds, but it also makes the DG less permeable. So it’s kind of a trade off. And yes, it’s great to use adjacent to turf. Hope this helps!
- Dom
@@BudgetPlants Do you suggest to use double layer of weed barrier fabric or plastic underneath weedbarrier to prevent weeds? Also which weedbarrier do you recommend?
No not necessary. A good non-woven geotextile fabric will work. Don’t get the kind that are made of stretchy rubber/plastic. They fall apart and breakdown very quickly.
Thank you so much for your video!
Very helpful and clear!
A question I have is; would decomposed granite stay put on a slight slope when it pours? Or would it wash away? And would it drain enough of the storm water, or would it be best to use crushed stone or pea gravel for this situation? (The yard is sloped 4’ at a length of 40’)
Thanks! So slopes are touchy with DG. It sounds like yours is mild enough where it would probably be OK. If you’re in a location that gets a fair amount of rain, I might steer you away from that just because of runoff issues. If there is a possibility of retaining the outer edge of the DG to make the area a little more flat, that would be ideal. Sorry I can’t be a little more specific on this one!
Indy Van derGeer, We have nearly the identical situation. What did you end up doing?
Would you be able to refer me on how to level my yard before dumping the DG? I am clearing the lawn, but look to see about getting it relatively flat.
For small areas and short pathways, a pick, flat shovel and grading rake is adequate. If it’s a very big area, a skid steer with a flat bucket.
I was planing to put this under an oak tree which sheds year long and drops bunch of acorns in fall. My concern is that of i use blower to clean the area, it would blow DG away. Is that valid concern or is it pretty hard/ stable to handle the blower?
I actually recommend DG to use under oaks for that very purpose. Oak leaf drop is insane, and with DG. It’s very easy to blow/sweep off.
If there is any slight incline, expect it to wash away in rain. I'm in California, by the coast where its dry, and mine did not compact. Its been a nightmare.
Great video! So, if we're adding road base - should we install the weed fabric under or over the road base? So, the layers would be ground -- weed fabric -- road base -- DG?
Correct.. weed fab, base, DG. However, I have actually been getting away from using weed barrier since it can become problematic down the line if you need to make repairs to the DG.
@@BudgetPlants Interesting! Thanks for your quick reply and that tip. I'm going to give it a go! : )
Love it
A landscaper once told me he does not use weed cloth under dg because the cloth makes it harder to compact the dg.
I have the same question as Clueless in California down below, about the road base and the weed blocker. You said the surface should be smooth before you lay down the weed blocker material, but road base is rocky. So what goes in between? Thanks!
How do you determine if you need the road bed gravel layer? Does it go under or over the weed barrier?
Can you use paver panels as underlayment for DG?
When making a DG patio island in a lawn area without adjacent hardscape, should the DG and the top of its edging be at the level of the ground (potentially more drainage issues) or at the level of the top of the grass (potential tripping issues)?
I have seen some mention of sod-edging (which to me seems like edging-free installation). How does one do that?
I have the same question about the road base and the weed blocker. He said the surface should be smooth before you lay down the weed blocker material, but road base is rocky. So what goes in between?
I generally am now putting the weed fabric between the native soil and the road base. However, this is for expansive soil (clay, caliche). For stable soils I don’t use weed fabric. And rarely road base, unless it’s for heavy traffic or vehicles.
Thank you so much for this video. Currently trying to figure out how to landscape my front yard. I have a sag palm in the backyard that needs moving. Are the palms in this house an okay distance from the home? Or would you advise further? Thank you!
When I was younger I could have done this myself but now I need a parking area between my house and barn. How would I go about hiring someone to do it and not get screwed over? I understand the CF/CY/Ton math, I purchased roadway materials for a state agency for years. But finding a reputable company is still hit or miss.
Thank you!!!
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After compacting DG, will it be strong enough for a heavy powered wheelchair? (total weight 435 lbs) Will it create grooves when the turn?
Hello, great video. Someone designed my backyard with DG and bender boards, but they are high. Is that normal? He told me that if he pushes them lower the DG from one side will go over the other side and the design will disappear. I always have to be careful not to trip over. Will appreciate your feedback. BTW, the design is beautiful! One portion is artificial grass so it makes it look very nice.
Thanks for step by step clear instructions however, being "budget" plants, would have appreciated costs attached. How much to rent the compactor? Stabilizing is expensive you say, compared to what? How much are bender boards, steel vs treated wood? These things would make these types of videos ten times better as us budget minded diy-er types can calculate what we can afford and plan accordingly. Thanks
Can you add a video on you grading and sloping a pathway
Do we still need to spritz water when we're done? Thanks for sharing.
Yes it can be helpful to solidify the surface.
Just subbed. Great video!
Looking for something like this that works on a slight slope for drainage, would this wash away? Thank you!
Hey! Yes, unfortunately, this would wash away with a slope degree greater than about 4 to 5°. Maybe go with something like a 3/8 gravel.
We have a very long area between the sidewalk and the curb where you park. I call it an island. I want to use DG in there to give that area a clean look. There's a tree in the island, will it be safe for the plant? You said water can permeate down through it.
Yes absolutely… Decompose granite does wonders for parkways as it can easily be walked on but allows water to percolate down through four trees. Just don’t heavily compacted around the base of the tree. In fact, I would suggest a loose gravel or rock around any trees in the parkway to allow for airflow.
I'm so grateful you responded. Thankyou, I will let my husband know what we need to do for the parkway and the tree to keep it healthy.
My pleasure! Feel free to reach out with any questions along the way.
Wish I had found this couple days ago. I actually just had dg done all across my yard. And let’s say I’m not 100% content with how it looks. Have few questions if you may be able to answer.
1. Is the material absolutely needed to separate the dg from the dirt? The plastic looking material.
2. He said he’s done but it looks loose. He’s telling me to water it for a day or two and it’ll get hard and he recommends putting additional hardening agent on it.
3. On one of the walk ways it looks great till I drag my trash can it’ll leave the tire marks. My guess it’s an excess? If so, that necessarily a bad thing?
Any input would be great as the guy is telling me he’s done and I’m not fully satisfied but wanna ask before I say something and turns out I’m wrong.
Great content here, thanks. That steel border looks great. How thick and how does one stake it?
Thanks!! So the steel I use is 1/4” thick. For the stakes, I just cut 3/4” rebar in 14-16” lengths and tack weld them to the edging every 3 feet or so. Let me know if you have any other questions!
- Dom
is there anything to be concerned with when installing to replace a lawn? IE damage to the water pipes of sprinklers?
This is a great video. What would you suggest to get a similar look but more conducive to a wet and cold climate
Thanks for watchin! So there’s not a whole lot out there that would be an equal substitute to DG, but you could look at a 3/8” crushed gravel. It doesn’t compact like DG but does tend to lock in tighter than more rounded pebbles.
Question: Once you screed to level, when you compact it don't you drop the level? Would you then add more, screed and compact again?
Yes it may drop a half an inch to 3/4 of an inch depending on how heavy you go with the compactor. At that point you can decide if you like some of the edging showing, or you can add another layer and compact it again to bring it up to the finished height of the edging.
Can you pls do one of how to DIY a drip or sprinkler system?!
great video! you touched on the topic of soil under the DG. I have a very hard, clay-heavy soil. Are you saying that in this case i wouldn't need the rock layer? What depth of DG do you recommend? thanks in advance!
Thanks Sabrina! Ok so if you have clay soil, I would definitely consider using a road base. I say this because clay holds water and does not drain very well. The road base not only stabilizes the DG, but also helps water drain more efficiently. For depth of DG, 2.5 to 3” is typically adequate for most walkways or patios. Hope this helps!
- Dom
@@BudgetPlants Thank you for this video and this comment. I was actually thinking the opposite as I thought the clay soil was going to be hard enough that it wouldn't need a base. Now I know!
My pleasure!! Good luck on the project!
- Dom
So how does it harden? I want to do this under a patio table and don't want it to get Sandy or the table to dig holes. My ground is already hard rocky red clay. What happens during normal winter rain?
It hardens naturally when it’s compacted. However, it does still have the tendency to have loose particles on top. You can use Technisoil for additional hardening which helps lock in most of the topical sandy particles, but it also has to be treated yearly in most cases. That’s why I generally prefer the natural hardening and just broom the top layer every so often. In rain, tables and chairs can cause ‘divots’ so I recommend not to use the DG until it hardens again after a few days.
Any chance you can share what type of markers you were using in the designing portion
Great video! Can I plant your bullet proof plant combo over DG? The area we want to put the DG and plants wouldn’t be quite level and has a minor slope. Thanks for the videos and sharing your knowledge
Many thanks! Yes you can use DG as a top-dressing. It can be about 2” thick and not compacted. And totally fine on a slope :)
- Dom
Would you use a sealer lime DG Rain Koat if you are subject to rain? I'm in Northern California
It’s been my experience that stabilizers and sealers just wear out overtime and cause more maintenance problems. I just go all natural.
I have a 13x10 space and it’s dug out now to 3”. I live in Anaheim, CA and will go this route instead of pouring a slab of concrete. The plan is to put a bench in this area next to my batting cage in the back yard. Should I use low grade DG or higher grade? Thanks
Sweet! I’d personally go with coarse DG. It doesn’t look quite as refined as the fine DG, however it shows less fracturing. But either one should yield a pretty good result.
great stuff, going to tackle a 17' x 17' area today.... question tho, other videos suggest wetting the first layer of dg, tamping, and they doing the same with a second layer?
Nice! Yes you can definitely do that. Not always necessary if you’re using a vibratory plate, but if you are using a hand tamper, then yes that’s definitely a good idea to do it in a couple layers. Good luck on the project!
- Dom
Is paver base suitable for DG for a pathway/patio instead of road base? My local bulk yard recommended it over road base. I'm in the Dallas area with clay soil. Have to say I already bought the paver base, so I'm crossing my fingers bc I don't want to have to return it.
Hi! Do you put landscape fabric over roadbase or the sand? The video shows it after roadbase. Thanks
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First off, thanks for the great informative video! Question, - what size thickness/gauge steel do you prefer for your edging. It looks pretty thick in the video.... 3/16 - maybe 1/4. Would like to obtain that look. Thanks again, stay safe.
Thanks for watching! We used 1/4” for the edging. It’s pretty easy to tack weld to metal stakes. Good luck!
Very helpful thank you. How does this product differ from laterite?
While there is some quartz content similar to laterite, it’s not clay-based like laterite. It’s mostly granite particles of different sizes that ‘lock’ together forming a compactable surface.
@@BudgetPlants Thank you!
Anyone have a recommendation for a reputable brand for steel edging?
Great video. So dont have to add water to it to harden it? Just compact it dry?
It depends… Bulk DG usually comes with some amount of moisture content in it. it’s often times enough to get good compaction without adding water. Occasionally we do lightly sprinkle the top layer with water if needed. If the DG is too dry, then yes, definitely add water to each layer as you compact.
I'm planning on renovating my road verges in So-Cal with decomposed granite but my biggest concern is installing the weed fabric. They've always been a pain to deal with and never a big help. Is it absolutely necessary to use the fabric? If so, what type/product would you recommend?
It’s not always necessary to install the weed fabric. It helps if you have a somewhat unstable soil type, in which case I might recommend a non-woven type (almost feels like felt). I’d say in most cases you can get away without it.
Awesome content! Thank you! Do you think this would work well as a greenhouse floor in Indiana, where we get freezes/snow?
Thanks for watchin!! Yes I think it would work, but I do think it would show significant cracking overtime and would probably have to be resurfaced every few years is my guess. Just make sure it has a good base and don’t install it in an area that gets heavy runoff from rainwater.