Not even close to his 2004 season lmao. Raw numbers are not how you count these things man. I guess Jameis Winston is one of the best QBs of all time cause he tossed 5,000 yards in a season
@@donsolosMarino is still the greatest QB I’ve ever seen, Super Bowl or not. He put a whole franchise on his shoulders and carried some truly awful teams that no other QBs could. He was pretty much like Mahomes and Rodgers on steroids, only not steroids just otherworldly skill. He played in an era where elite defense and strong run game were way more important than an elite QB, now it’s the other way around in large part due to Marino. 1984 is the greatest season of all time and I don’t even think it’s close but 1986 from Dan was almost just as dominant because that dolphins team was basically the AFC version of the Tampa Bay Bucs with Steve Young at QB who only won 2 games that season. Young couldn’t carry bad teams, he was only great with a stacked team around him when he took over for Montana in SF. I’m taking Marino over anyone and he is the true GOAT in my honest opinion
Okay, so it's not just me. I mean come on... Not just 55 TDs, but an absolute destruction of the Single Season Passing Yardage record too. For both to be surpassed like they were in the same year, it should be mentioned.
not only that, the same amount of interceptions as that 2004 season, and a better completion percentage. the only real thing that '04 season has is a better passer rating along with being in a less pass friendly time.
@@tri-tri-again 2004 and 2013 are completely different era's of football. 2004 you could still hit the QB pretty hard. Its much more impressive to do what he did in that smashmouth era, than the volume he put up with denver. Same with Marino's stats in '84.
@@balamkinich7968 it wasn’t an absolute destruction of the single season passing yards record. He barely beat out Brees’ 2011 season by 1 yard. But, Peyton’s is still the best statistical season by a QB ever
People who aren't old enough to live in the 80's just don't know how impressive Dan the man Marino really was. Especially when you take into consideration that at the time a 24-17 game was considered a high scoring game
false about the scoring. the 2000s decade actually had a very similar outcome compared to other decades. the 1980 and 2000 decades are the closest together compared to any other decades compared to each other. average points per game 1980s: 20.85 PPG 2000s: 21.27 PPG
The Steelers had the chance of getting Marino and didn't sign him. 😭. How many Superbowls would Manning have won if Brady wasn't playing. Lol. But, his brother Eli got Brady back twice. Lol
I know I’m 4 months late to the discussion, however scoring doesn’t tell the whole picture. If you look at the number of attempted passes in the 1980s vs 2000s there were more than 3000 attempts less in the 80s, 5% lower average completion, and almost 2000 less yards. I’d say that gives a much better picture than just total scoring
It was insane. With the lockout fans were afraid of a drop in performance. It was not the offense it was the defense that suffered. Eli was 70-80 yards from a 5k yard season as well.
@@FireyninjadogYes, Matthew Stafford deserves more love. From a statistical standpoint, to this point in his career he's roughly on par with guys like Brees and Rodgers, who are both touted as surefire first-ballot Hall of Famers. Considering that Stafford now has the same number of rings as both of those guys, and the same number of MVPs as Drew Brees, his Hall of Fame case is becoming less and less of a longshot. His biggest problem though, like Philip Rivers, is his inconsistency in high-leverage situations, but to be fair, he didn't face terribly many of them in Detroit.
Loved how in 2007 the NFC was owned by Dallas and Green Bay. Then the Giants came in and beat them both on their home field. Then beat NE in the biggest Super Bowl upset in forty years.
“Like DeShawn Watson through the doors of a beauty spa” oh my, laughing so hard, had to rewind to listen again. Dan Marino was so much fun to watch. The man left it all on the field. If Miami had ever taken the game seriously during Dan’s playing years, he would have gotten a ring, rings. It’s a shame they knew Marino would sell tickets so they didn’t need anything else like a defense.
@@W_L-mb9no literally no one in this video won the SB in the season TF is talking about tho lol. Like Mahomes’ 2022 regular season is less impressive than most of these, but the fact he also won it all should probably been the winner of this list too.
Sadly had the 2013 flame literally not died at kickoff, the game would have been wild. Even against the best defense, the 2013 Broncos offense was just that INCREDIBLE. At half it should have been like 20-30 points for each team. Sadly the 2013 flame quite literally just burned out instantly at kickoff. As a Denver fan, it hurts knowing that if we make a super bowl, we either win, or get blown out.
I said it like a year ago but you should STILL have more subs than you do. Your quality sports content nobody can even compete with. Keep up the 🔥 vids.
To put in perspective just how impressive Marino was in 84 the previous record for TDs in a season was 36 and he threw 48 for someone to break it by the same percentage today they would have to throw 73
@@saydaddy91 I was addressing the number necessary to match Marino’s original increase. The record prior to Marino was 36. Marino increased it to 48 a 33% increase. Manning increased it to 49 and Brady to 50 each a 1% increase. Manning’s increase to 55 was a 10% increase. Marino increased the record 33%. To increase it another 33% would be 64. The current record is 55 which is 15% of that. Of course if we set a new benchmark of the current record, a 33% increase would be 73 as you said. All impressive numbers.
If rodgers finished games like brady got to in 07 instead of getting pulled out of blowouts and played in week 17 he would own all the single season records
@@donsolos the reason the packers did that is they thought his hot throwing ability would carry to the playoffs if he got rest , but they didnt account for is to stay hot you gotta keep playing and for the fact of their defense was terrible , they made no moves or acquired anybody to help
Also with Dan Marino the previous qb passing td record was 33 he had 48 so like times 1.5 compare that to now 1.5x55 is around 80 that would be like having 80 tds now
@@foreverImperialThose are completions, just to guys wearing different jerseys than yours. It's not his fault that he and Jameis Winston learned the preschool sharing lesson before mere mortals like Aaron Rodgers
1984 Dan Marino: League MVP ✅️ Lost Superbowl❌️ 2004 Peyton Manning: League MVP ✅️ Lost Divisional round❌️ 2007 Tom Brady: League MVP✅️ Lost Superbowl❌️ 2011 Aaron Rodgers: League MVP ✅️ Lost Divisional round❌️ 1989 Joe Montana: League MVP✅️ Superbowl MVP✅️ 1994 Steve Young: League MVP✅️ Superbowl MVP✅️ 1999 Kurt Warner: League MVP✅️ Superbowl MVP✅️ 2022 Patrick Mahomes: League MVP✅️ Superbowl MVP✅️
@@kylethomas2993 no those stats show Montana missed 3 games. His season should be out simply for the fact that he missed multiple games . Passer rating isn’t the only stat that matters😂 and you say older era,Montana,young, and Warner seasons are all in the same era😂 the only one who isn’t in the era is Mahomes.
Even if you adjust Marino’s 2004 numbers to current day. It still doesn’t do enough justice, since the rules were different in the 80s. Defensives could get away with way more back then.
You might be the best football RUclipsr. You break down the context, provide relevant comparisons, and present the facts so we can decide. Legendary ratio of replay quantity and storytelling quality. The QB play from 2011 could easily be 3 top 10 seasons. Wonder if it’s the best offensive year, statistically, in history.
In my opinion, there are three more seasons that warrant consideration for the best QB season of all time. I'll go through them chronologically. 1) Bert Jones, 1976 Colts Regular season stats: 207/343, 60.3% comp (3rd), 3,104 passing yards (1st), 24 TDs (2nd), 9 INTs (4th), 7.0% TD (2nd), 2.6% INT (2nd), 7.78 ANY/A (1st), 102.5 rating (2nd), 11-3 record Playoffs: 0-1; lost to the juggernaut Steelers 40-14 in Terry Bradshaw's perfect game Accolades: Pro Bowl, 1st-team All-Pro, MVP, offensive POY On the surface, this season doesn't stand out as being particularly special. But the NFL landscape was markedly different in 1976 compared even to Dan Marino's 1984 season. 25-year-old Bert Jones' primary passing competition was the Vikings' 36-year-old Fran Tarkenton and the Raiders' 31-year-old Ken Stabler, alongside Roger Staubach and Ken Anderson. Jones didn't have as much of a team around him as any of those guys-his primary supporting cast members were RB Lydell Mitchell and WR Roger Carr-and in a league with very little parity, he still managed to spearhead the best offense in the league in terms of both yards and points. It's also notable that a) Jones managed to be the early-season locker room glue for a Colts team that was very much at odds with each other and b) unlike other quarterbacks who typically feature on lists like this, this was Jones' only great season in what was otherwise a very forgettable career. It's not the strongest argument, and Jon Bois and Alex Rubinstein do a better job explaining it in their documentary "Section 1" about the Colts-Steelers playoff game. 2) Peyton Manning, 2013 Broncos Regular season stats: 450/659, 68.3% comp (3rd), 5,477 passing yards (1st), 55 TDs (1st), 10 INTs (17th), 8.3% TD (2nd), 1.5% INT (5th), 8.87 ANY/A (2nd), 115.1 rating (2nd), 13-3 record Playoffs: 2-1; beat Chargers (9-7) and Patriots (12-4) before losing to Legion of Boom Seahawks 43-8 in Super Bowl XLVIII Accolades: Pro Bowl, 1st team All-Pro, MVP, offensive POY That Peyton Manning is on this list twice is incredibly impressive and helped shape his case as one of the best to ever play. That the Sheriff did this at 37 after his career had nearly ended a couple years prior is even more impressive. But the most impressive aspects of this 2013 season are what casual NFL fans tend to care about most when it comes to their QB: passing yards and passing touchdowns. In these two statistics, Manning not only led the league easily, with 315 more yards and *_16_* more TDs than 2nd-place Drew Brees, but also put up as-yet-unsurpassed NFL records in both categories while simultaneously throwing a minuscule-by-comparison 10 picks. Not only is it rare for a player to lead the league in passing yards and TDs and also reach the Super Bowl, but so far, the only other time a quarterback has thrown for 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns is when another P.M., Patrick Mahomes, did so in his 2018 MVP campaign in which he was an overtime period away from the Super Bowl in his rookie season. However... 3) Patrick Mahomes, 2022 Chiefs Regular season stats: 435/648, 67.1% comp (7th), 5,250 passing yards (1st), 41 TDs (1st), 12 INTs (T-25th), 6.3% TD (1st), 1.9% INT (11th), 7.93 ANY/A (2nd), 105.2 rating (2nd), 14-3 record Playoffs: 3-0; beat Jaguars (9-8) and Bengals (12-4) before toppling Eagles 38-35 in Super Bowl LVII Accolades: Pro Bowl, 1st-team All-Pro, MVP, Super Bowl MVP Argue about recency bias all you want, but I would claim that the 2022 season and postseason represented the finest in what has been the short but illustrious career of Patrick Mahomes, who recently became, at the age of 27, the only player in NFL history ever to lead the league in passing yards and passing TDs while winning both the regular-season and Super Bowl MVPs. It is those four qualities that allow this season to creep onto the list of greatest-of-all-time candidates. Besides, tight end Travis Kelce represented the only real dynamic offensive threat; the remainder of the rushing and receiving was done by a committee of relative no-names (such as Jerick McKinnon and Marquez Valdes-Scantling) and very young players (such as rookies Isiah Pacheco and Skyy Moore). What could potentially drag this season down are the relatively pedestrian interception numbers, but 2022 was also a historically good season for pass precision, with no qualified QB exceeding either 15 picks or an interception rate of even 4% (Dak Prescott resided in the basement in both of these statistical categories), and only Zach Wilson throwing more INTs than TDs among qualified QBs. Mahomes also broke the all-time record for yards accounted for by a quarterback (passing and rushing) in a season, previously held by Drew Brees, albeit with one more game than Brees. The verdict: I think relative to his peers, Dan Marino's 1984 season stands out as the most impressive, as it stacks up 30-40 years later in much more high-powered offensive environments among some of the greatest performances on a raw statistical basis, and if not for the force that was the 1980s 49ers, it could have been Marino's only opportunity to take home a championship. But in my opinion, any of the other six seasons have a decent case for being the best of all time (or BOAT, which is a better acronym than GOAT).
Stafford had a 5000+ yard year in 2011 too. That year was completely crazy. If there's one season you can point to that completely changed a pro league, I feel like that year is it. It sparked the current Pass Happy state the league is in, no question.
Everyone forgets the other scare with the 2007 patriots: Baltimore. Needed a 4th down stop called back due to timeout from BAL (which the patriots converted on 2nd attempt) and stopping a receiver who caught a Hail Mary pass from crossing the goal line to win.
I'd rank them: [#1 Marino '84] [#2 Peyton '04] [#3 Brady '07] If you account for inflation, or in other words, if the same passer happy rules were in place back then, Marino would've easily had 60+ TD's. That goes for '04 and '07 to a lesser extent too.
Stonehenge head? You mean Easter Island head? This might not be the best statistical season, but Steve Young had to have been pretty happy with his 1994 season. MVP for the 2nd time, led the league in passing for the 4th consecutive year, set a new NFL record for single-season passer rating (112.8), went a league-best 13-3, beat the Cowboys in the NFC title game, trashed the Chargers in Super Bowl XXIX and was named Super Bowl MVP after throwing six touchdowns, which is still a Super Bowl record. Oh, and he also earned his law degree at some point in 1994. Yessir, things were goin' grand for ol' Esteban Jóven.
Amazing video and even better idea! Please make more of this for other positions. Running Back and Wide Receiver would be great. I think giving the Defense some love would also be fun. Best Defensive Back or Lineman. YES PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏🙂
In regards to 2004 Peyton......he wasn't sitting in the dark sharpening his tools, he and the rest of the Colts were complaining to the NFL about how the Patriots' defense smothered his receivers and so, the NFL began highly enforcing the Illegal Contact Rule (it was already a rule but the Colts wanted it to be reinforced going forward and thus, the league really began clamping down defenders smothering receivers). Of course, what followed was Peyton breaking Marino's record (literally the season AFTER the Colts wanted the league to reinforce the rule) but the Colts STILL getting stomped in the playoffs by the Pats. So even with the illegal contact rule, the Pats still had answers for Manning in the playoffs and he played even worse than he did the previous playoff game. It's also the reason why Brady murdered the league three years later for 50 TDs, he took advantage of the rules as well and now, that's one of the major reasons why defenses seem soft today and don't cover receivers very closely. Having that, Marino wins hands down. He threw 48 TDs and 5084 yards at a time where the illegal contact rule WASNT heavily enforced, the game was still focused more on the run than the pass, defenses were tougher and given more leeway, offenses were archaic and was a rarity at the time. Patrick Mahomes throwing for over 5000 yards last year wasn't that impressive because it's been done so many times since Brees broke the record.......Marino doing it in 1984 is beyond impressive because defenses didn't know how to stop them until the Niners managed to do it in the SB.
Marino’s 1984 is by far the best ever. QB rating is OK within a season but not in comparing eras. Offences and defenses are completely different. In the current era, poor quarterbacks have good ratings.
Last Year Mahomes gotta be up here led the league in passing touchdowns, passing yards broke record for most total yards in a season ever, #1 seed in playoffs and won SuperBowl being injured in every single playoff game MVP, Superbowl, and Superbowl MVP all without tyreek hill in what many people said would be a rebuilding year.
@@Ax3v3211 Warner had the player that won mvp the next year in the league in his back field. Mahomes just lost tyreek hill that season. That’s the difference.
@@kleatise52 my guy he literally have Kelce who’s on pace to be the greatest tight end ever. To act as if Mahomes is purely doing it by himself when he has one of the greatest tight ends is crazy
I’ve been waiting on this video .. and again, TubFrog doesn’t disappoint. LOL…Still thinking on whether “the Sheriff became the Hunter” might be the coldest thing you’ve ever said…. And, no, NO it’s definitely not! Manning is a favorite…but, I’m impressed with Brady’s most impressive (statistically) season!
Clearly it's Dan Marino. Put 1984 Marino into the modern NFL rules favoring offenses and he'd destroy everyone even harder than he did in the 80s. That quick release of his was shocking to watch. While other quarterbacks often got violently assaulted in ways that should have led to felony charges, Marino would flick his wrist and unleash a bomb before defenders could get to him. He was a such a outlier that year that it took decades and many rule changes before elite QBs hit those numbers again. But his lack of a superbowl ring does prove how hard it is to win a championship in the NFL. Or the fact all four of these seasons ended in an unceremonious loss. I guess Eli Manning really is the greatest.
Crazy to believe that playoff Eli beat TWO of the four greatest QB seasons in NFL history. Sums up Eli's whole career. Not that good, but somehow did the impossible multiple times.
Honestly, I’m pretty sure best QB season ever goes to 2022 Patrick Mahomes. Led the league in passing TDs. Led the league in passing yards. Broke the NFL record for total offense in a season. Tied best record in the NFL at 14-3. Won the MVP. Won the Super Bowl. Won the Super Bowl MVP. And to top it all off, he did all of that in a year where he had a completely new receiver core after having lost one of the best receivers ever in Tyreek Hill. *AND* he played the entire playoffs with a high ankle sprain, an injury that generally sidelines athletes for at least a month. Like, I don’t really think anything tops that.
@@johnchedsey1306 please stop grouping Brad Johnson with Trent Dilfer. Brad Johnson was a legit good QB in different offenses, while Dilfer was mediocre at best.
Steve Young's 1994 season should have been mentioned. Set the record for passer rating, league MVP, 42 total TD's (passing & rushing), no turnovers in the playoffs, Super Bowl record 6 TD's, Super MVP.
@@stuffofnitemares6161the other fun facts to consider. Mahomes had a total of 14 turnovers in 2018. He had a defense ranked #27 The had a total of 25 turnovers. In 2013 Peyton had 17 total turnovers and his defense gave home the ball 31 times. His defense was ranked #9.
Marino's season was just unheard of. Relative to the rest of the league it was unheard of. Mannings 2018 season is the best of all time, but not as impressive as Marinos.
What’s interesting is that for as great as Peyton manning’s 04 season was, it was arguably only his second best. That 2013 year with the broncos where he threw for 5477 yards and 55 TD’s, both being single season records, was legendary. They also won 1 more game than that 2004 colts team and made the Super Bowl before manning suffered the same fate of Brady and Marino’s best seasons by getting absolutely annihilated.
Could you do something on Harvey Martin and Coy Bacon in 1977 and 1976 . Also Lester Hayes in 1980 and Everson Walls in 1981 They great seasons which no one talks about.
@@ACLA23 they didnt watch. Their just looking at raw stats without context. 2004 was still old school, while post 2011 has been a QB nirvana for passing numbers. Look at how Cam.Newton threw for 4000 as a rookie and he wasnt even a great pure passer. We had 3 standout QBs in 2012(Luck, RG3, Wilson). Totally different game post 2011 passing wise to pre 2011.
2007, 16-0 patriots Tom Brady. That year he was incredable that whole season. Led leauge in completion %, Passing Yards with 400 more than the next QB,, yards per play, Touchdowns where he threw for 50 and the second place QB threw only 36. Thats 14 more than second place also, yards per game, Passer Rating, QBR and 4 Game winning 4th quarter comebacks (most in league that season.. With all that slinging of the ball you may think he threw a bunch of INT, NOPE!!! He only threw 8. The least of any QB that started 16 games. No debate. Its 2007 Tom Brady.😮
If im not mistaken, that Patriots vs Eagles should have been covered. I could be wrong (sorry if so) but isn't that the game that backup AJ Feeley had a near prefect game?
Tom Brady: "His biggest scare" was not Week 17. Or Week 12. In Week 13 he needed four 4th down tries on his final drive against the Ravens. On three of those he was stopped, but was bailed out by two penalties and a Rex Ryan timeout.
2007 Tom Brady and I don’t think it’s close because though 2013 2004 and 2009 manning all have a case Brady has one thing manning Bree’s rodgers or Marino never had. PERFECTION. Manning had Marvin Harrison and the first year Brady got a receiver as good as Harrison he didn’t lose and lead the most dominant team ever
I know you probably had to limit the amount of QB's on here because of time, but you should have had 1989 Joe Montana on here. In the regular reason he had a passer rating of 112.4, but what was even more impressive was the playoff run. He had the most ridiculous playoff run of all time where he threw 11 touchdowns, 0 picks, averaged 9.6 yards per attempt, had a completion percentage of 78.3, and had a passer rating of 146.4. In my eyes this season easily has an argument for being the greatest of all time.
I’d have to go with Marino. Imo Brady’s unanimous mvp season was better than his 2007. He was throwing to the corpse of randy moss, rookie gronk and welker was out a quarter of the season. They did have a killer tight end combo that season tho.
Here's the deal. People who don't study film don't fully understand how absolutely GREAT Manning was. Probably the most cerebral QB of all time, and it's not close. To cap it off, Peyton Manning had a passer rating of 115.1 with 5,477 yards, 55 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 16 games in 2013. He was 36 almost 37. Which is BONKERS. His 2004 season is the first season I remember watching at a young age, and Peyton literally made me a lifelong colts fan during that season.
Argument against him is the awful defenses he faced vs Brady’s 07 campaign vs Pittsburg, Philly, SD, Indy, Washington etc. But having a brick wall of an o line and Moss and Welker made Matt Cassel a rich man. Argument against Rodgers is his backup throwing for over 500 yards and 6 TD’s dropping 45 on a Lions team playing for the #5 seed. Manning threw 49 TD’s in only 15 games.
1999 Kurt Warner...2 years removed from bagging groceries...plugged in last minute due to Trent Green injury...of all teams, the sad-sack Rams who were arguably the worst team of the 90s (before 99), puts up over 4000 yards, 41 TD, only 13 Int, NFL MVP, Superbowl Champion, and Super Bowl MVP thanks to 73 yard TD to Isaac Bruce in the waning minutes of the game. Story-wise, hard to top that season
@@kuramafoofoo3043 his 2004 season was better. He actually threw more TDs per attempt 9.9% vs 8.3%. Had a higher passer rating 121.1 vs 115.1, and more yards per attempt 9.2 vs 8.3. He did have a higher pick rate in 2004 2% vs 1.5% and completed at a slightly worse rate 67.6 vs 68.3, but when you adjust for era it clearly makes up for that.
Johnny Unitas and Joe Namath should be in the debate. The rules and the equipment were different before 1981. They both would have put up monster numbers against soft modern defenses.
The Patriots were winning Superbowls. Tom Brady was always average or worse in the playoffs. Even the one or two games he had amazing numbers, the majority were check downs and had some freak penalty or something else happen to help him win
2003 Colts beat the Chiefs in the No Punt game in the playoffs, causing the Chiefs to fire Robinson and hiring Gunther Cunningham as DC (joining the team who fired him four years earlier)... Chiefs wanted revenge on the Colts and that was the reason they beat them in 2004.
2013 Manning and 2016 Brady, 2016 Brady was suspended 4 games to start the year but then proceeded to have the best touchdown to interception ratio in history with 28 touchdowns to 2 interceptions then won the superbowl after the Falcons died in the 3rd quarter
EDIT: can't believe I forgot 2018 blake bortles, im screaming and crying right now
Good one
Man how could u frog
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waiting on top 10 long snappers in nfl history (definitive edition)
The sheriff became the hunter had me dying🤣🤣🤣🤣
Glad to see Peyton get his love, but his 2013 season is literally the best statistical season of all time.
I was abt to comment that
55 tds
@@Ishebrjfufiej exactly
Not even close to his 2004 season lmao. Raw numbers are not how you count these things man. I guess Jameis Winston is one of the best QBs of all time cause he tossed 5,000 yards in a season
@@_helium_ scoring is scoring though
I’m very pleased to see Marino on here. 5k and 48 in 1984 is just insane
In my opinion he is a tier 1 QB with literally these other 3 QBs + montana. He has a legit GOAT argument
@@donsolos I have him at 3 over montana tbh. He was amazing
@@559austin5 splitting hairs. There is little separating tier 1 qbs other than playstyles. I dont rank them, tier system is best
@@donsolos may I ask who those tier one QB's are
@@donsolosMarino is still the greatest QB I’ve ever seen, Super Bowl or not. He put a whole franchise on his shoulders and carried some truly awful teams that no other QBs could. He was pretty much like Mahomes and Rodgers on steroids, only not steroids just otherworldly skill. He played in an era where elite defense and strong run game were way more important than an elite QB, now it’s the other way around in large part due to Marino. 1984 is the greatest season of all time and I don’t even think it’s close but 1986 from Dan was almost just as dominant because that dolphins team was basically the AFC version of the Tampa Bay Bucs with Steve Young at QB who only won 2 games that season. Young couldn’t carry bad teams, he was only great with a stacked team around him when he took over for Montana in SF. I’m taking Marino over anyone and he is the true GOAT in my honest opinion
What about Peyton Manning's 2013 season? 55 touchdowns?
Okay, so it's not just me. I mean come on... Not just 55 TDs, but an absolute destruction of the Single Season Passing Yardage record too. For both to be surpassed like they were in the same year, it should be mentioned.
not only that, the same amount of interceptions as that 2004 season, and a better completion percentage. the only real thing that '04 season has is a better passer rating along with being in a less pass friendly time.
@@tri-tri-again 2004 and 2013 are completely different era's of football. 2004 you could still hit the QB pretty hard. Its much more impressive to do what he did in that smashmouth era, than the volume he put up with denver. Same with Marino's stats in '84.
@@pointyheadYT Also people really didn't know how much Bill Belicheat was really cheating.
@@balamkinich7968 it wasn’t an absolute destruction of the single season passing yards record. He barely beat out Brees’ 2011 season by 1 yard.
But, Peyton’s is still the best statistical season by a QB ever
People who aren't old enough to live in the 80's just don't know how impressive Dan the man Marino really was. Especially when you take into consideration that at the time a 24-17 game was considered a high scoring game
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I think he wins based on nobody having a similar season for almost 30 yrs
false about the scoring. the 2000s decade actually had a very similar outcome compared to other decades. the 1980 and 2000 decades are the closest together compared to any other decades compared to each other.
average points per game
1980s: 20.85 PPG
2000s: 21.27 PPG
The Steelers had the chance of getting Marino and didn't sign him. 😭. How many Superbowls would Manning have won if Brady wasn't playing. Lol. But, his brother Eli got Brady back twice. Lol
I know I’m 4 months late to the discussion, however scoring doesn’t tell the whole picture. If you look at the number of attempted passes in the 1980s vs 2000s there were more than 3000 attempts less in the 80s, 5% lower average completion, and almost 2000 less yards. I’d say that gives a much better picture than just total scoring
Can't wait for the final form of tubfrog videos. Best punter season in nfl history, evolution of the punter, and the entire closet is just tape.
Lmfao almost spit out my coffee
Isaac punts on steroids
Can't wait to see Johnny Manziel finally get the appreciation he deserves in this video
It’s gotta be Marino those stats 20 years before the passing era are way to impossible to ignore
True there’s a reason the other three contenders are all within 7 years of eachother
2013 Peyton manning and 2018 Patric Mahomes left the chat
yeah what lol was this video made in 2010?
Man, I forgot how great the top QBs were in 2011. And it could have been even better if Peyton’s neck wasn’t messed up that season.
Unmentioned, Matthew Stafford had a 5k yard season, with 41 td passes
It was insane. With the lockout fans were afraid of a drop in performance. It was not the offense it was the defense that suffered. Eli was 70-80 yards from a 5k yard season as well.
@@FireyninjadogYes, Matthew Stafford deserves more love. From a statistical standpoint, to this point in his career he's roughly on par with guys like Brees and Rodgers, who are both touted as surefire first-ballot Hall of Famers. Considering that Stafford now has the same number of rings as both of those guys, and the same number of MVPs as Drew Brees, his Hall of Fame case is becoming less and less of a longshot. His biggest problem though, like Philip Rivers, is his inconsistency in high-leverage situations, but to be fair, he didn't face terribly many of them in Detroit.
Loved how in 2007 the NFC was owned by Dallas and Green Bay. Then the Giants came in and beat them both on their home field. Then beat NE in the biggest Super Bowl upset in forty years.
“Like DeShawn Watson through the doors of a beauty spa” oh my, laughing so hard, had to rewind to listen again.
Dan Marino was so much fun to watch. The man left it all on the field. If Miami had ever taken the game seriously during Dan’s playing years, he would have gotten a ring, rings. It’s a shame they knew Marino would sell tickets so they didn’t need anything else like a defense.
2013 peyton manning was almost unstoppable, in year 16
Uh he was stoppable, in the most important game of that season….
@@W_L-mb9no bro said almost you're literally agreeing with him 😭
@Nick no, no. He corrected me, bro. I added almost after he posted that
@@W_L-mb9no literally no one in this video won the SB in the season TF is talking about tho lol. Like Mahomes’ 2022 regular season is less impressive than most of these, but the fact he also won it all should probably been the winner of this list too.
Sadly had the 2013 flame literally not died at kickoff, the game would have been wild. Even against the best defense, the 2013 Broncos offense was just that INCREDIBLE.
At half it should have been like 20-30 points for each team. Sadly the 2013 flame quite literally just burned out instantly at kickoff.
As a Denver fan, it hurts knowing that if we make a super bowl, we either win, or get blown out.
I said it like a year ago but you should STILL have more subs than you do. Your quality sports content nobody can even compete with. Keep up the 🔥 vids.
To put in perspective just how impressive Marino was in 84 the previous record for TDs in a season was 36 and he threw 48 for someone to break it by the same percentage today they would have to throw 73
Marino increased the record 33%. To increase the record another 33% would be 64.
@@2Thes22 actually we’re both wrong. The current record is 55 to beat the record by 33% you would have to throw for 73
@@saydaddy91 I was addressing the number necessary to match Marino’s original increase. The record prior to Marino was 36. Marino increased it to 48 a 33% increase. Manning increased it to 49 and Brady to 50 each a 1% increase. Manning’s increase to 55 was a 10% increase. Marino increased the record 33%. To increase it another 33% would be 64. The current record is 55 which is 15% of that. Of course if we set a new benchmark of the current record, a 33% increase would be 73 as you said. All impressive numbers.
It was obviously Jamarcus Russell in 2007. Nothing more obvious than that.
Except for Jamarcus in 08
@@tubfrog what about Tom Brady in 1776
You should've showed marion barber's two yard run in week 6 Patriots vs Cowboys
To me it was Aaron Rodgers In 2011 , basically unstoppable throwing ability
If rodgers finished games like brady got to in 07 instead of getting pulled out of blowouts and played in week 17 he would own all the single season records
@@donsolos the reason the packers did that is they thought his hot throwing ability would carry to the playoffs if he got rest , but they didnt account for is to stay hot you gotta keep playing and for the fact of their defense was terrible , they made no moves or acquired anybody to help
Also with Dan Marino the previous qb passing td record was 33 he had 48 so like times 1.5 compare that to now 1.5x55 is around 80 that would be like having 80 tds now
Rodgers and Brees had the 1st and 2nd best QB seasons in the same season. I don’t know why you didn’t add in 2011 Brees.
2017 Peterman was literally UNSTOPPABLE. Had so many completions
yeah he sure knows how to throw an interception
@@foreverImperialThose are completions, just to guys wearing different jerseys than yours. It's not his fault that he and Jameis Winston learned the preschool sharing lesson before mere mortals like Aaron Rodgers
Bro, your content and quality is phenomenal. You’re going to be great. Keep it up dude ✌🏽
Brady in 2007 was the only qb on this list to have an elite level defense, all the others were awful.
@Banana Man He's talking about the specific years in question. And he' right, the 2007 Pats defense was much better than the other QB's defenses.
Bros STILL bringing up defense even though he put up the greatest statistical season of all time lmao Brady haters are insane.
1984 Dan Marino:
League MVP ✅️
Lost Superbowl❌️
2004 Peyton Manning:
League MVP ✅️
Lost Divisional round❌️
2007 Tom Brady:
League MVP✅️
Lost Superbowl❌️
2011 Aaron Rodgers:
League MVP ✅️
Lost Divisional round❌️
1989 Joe Montana:
League MVP✅️
Superbowl MVP✅️
1994 Steve Young:
League MVP✅️
Superbowl MVP✅️
1999 Kurt Warner:
League MVP✅️
Superbowl MVP✅️
2022 Patrick Mahomes:
League MVP✅️
Superbowl MVP✅️
So it should belong to Steve young? Because 2022 Mahomes and 1999 Warner aren’t that good compared to the rest
@@ACLA23 wym they aren’t that good?😂
Mahomes 2022 14-3, 67.1 completion percentage,5250 yards,41 tds, 12 ints, passer rating of 105.2
Warner 1999 13-3, 65.1 completion percentage ,4353 yards,41 tds, 13 ints, passer rating of 109.2
Montana 1989 11-2, 70.2 completion percentage,3521 yards ,26 tds,8 ints, passer rating of 112.4
Young 1994 13-3, 70.3 completion percentage,3969 yards, 35 tds , 10 ints, passer rating of 112.8
If anything Montana’s and Young’s season weren’t that good compared to Mahomes and Warner.
@@Ax3v3211 those stats show Montana and Youngs we're better. Higher passer rating in a relatively older era. All were great tho.
@@kylethomas2993 no those stats show Montana missed 3 games. His season should be out simply for the fact that he missed multiple games . Passer rating isn’t the only stat that matters😂 and you say older era,Montana,young, and Warner seasons are all in the same era😂 the only one who isn’t in the era is Mahomes.
Even if you adjust Marino’s 2004 numbers to current day. It still doesn’t do enough justice, since the rules were different in the 80s. Defensives could get away with way more back then.
You might be the best football RUclipsr. You break down the context, provide relevant comparisons, and present the facts so we can decide. Legendary ratio of replay quantity and storytelling quality.
The QB play from 2011 could easily be 3 top 10 seasons. Wonder if it’s the best offensive year, statistically, in history.
In my opinion, there are three more seasons that warrant consideration for the best QB season of all time. I'll go through them chronologically.
1) Bert Jones, 1976 Colts
Regular season stats: 207/343, 60.3% comp (3rd), 3,104 passing yards (1st), 24 TDs (2nd), 9 INTs (4th), 7.0% TD (2nd), 2.6% INT (2nd), 7.78 ANY/A (1st), 102.5 rating (2nd), 11-3 record
Playoffs: 0-1; lost to the juggernaut Steelers 40-14 in Terry Bradshaw's perfect game
Accolades: Pro Bowl, 1st-team All-Pro, MVP, offensive POY
On the surface, this season doesn't stand out as being particularly special. But the NFL landscape was markedly different in 1976 compared even to Dan Marino's 1984 season. 25-year-old Bert Jones' primary passing competition was the Vikings' 36-year-old Fran Tarkenton and the Raiders' 31-year-old Ken Stabler, alongside Roger Staubach and Ken Anderson. Jones didn't have as much of a team around him as any of those guys-his primary supporting cast members were RB Lydell Mitchell and WR Roger Carr-and in a league with very little parity, he still managed to spearhead the best offense in the league in terms of both yards and points. It's also notable that a) Jones managed to be the early-season locker room glue for a Colts team that was very much at odds with each other and b) unlike other quarterbacks who typically feature on lists like this, this was Jones' only great season in what was otherwise a very forgettable career. It's not the strongest argument, and Jon Bois and Alex Rubinstein do a better job explaining it in their documentary "Section 1" about the Colts-Steelers playoff game.
2) Peyton Manning, 2013 Broncos
Regular season stats: 450/659, 68.3% comp (3rd), 5,477 passing yards (1st), 55 TDs (1st), 10 INTs (17th), 8.3% TD (2nd), 1.5% INT (5th), 8.87 ANY/A (2nd), 115.1 rating (2nd), 13-3 record
Playoffs: 2-1; beat Chargers (9-7) and Patriots (12-4) before losing to Legion of Boom Seahawks 43-8 in Super Bowl XLVIII
Accolades: Pro Bowl, 1st team All-Pro, MVP, offensive POY
That Peyton Manning is on this list twice is incredibly impressive and helped shape his case as one of the best to ever play. That the Sheriff did this at 37 after his career had nearly ended a couple years prior is even more impressive. But the most impressive aspects of this 2013 season are what casual NFL fans tend to care about most when it comes to their QB: passing yards and passing touchdowns. In these two statistics, Manning not only led the league easily, with 315 more yards and *_16_* more TDs than 2nd-place Drew Brees, but also put up as-yet-unsurpassed NFL records in both categories while simultaneously throwing a minuscule-by-comparison 10 picks. Not only is it rare for a player to lead the league in passing yards and TDs and also reach the Super Bowl, but so far, the only other time a quarterback has thrown for 5,000 yards and 50 touchdowns is when another P.M., Patrick Mahomes, did so in his 2018 MVP campaign in which he was an overtime period away from the Super Bowl in his rookie season. However...
3) Patrick Mahomes, 2022 Chiefs
Regular season stats: 435/648, 67.1% comp (7th), 5,250 passing yards (1st), 41 TDs (1st), 12 INTs (T-25th), 6.3% TD (1st), 1.9% INT (11th), 7.93 ANY/A (2nd), 105.2 rating (2nd), 14-3 record
Playoffs: 3-0; beat Jaguars (9-8) and Bengals (12-4) before toppling Eagles 38-35 in Super Bowl LVII
Accolades: Pro Bowl, 1st-team All-Pro, MVP, Super Bowl MVP
Argue about recency bias all you want, but I would claim that the 2022 season and postseason represented the finest in what has been the short but illustrious career of Patrick Mahomes, who recently became, at the age of 27, the only player in NFL history ever to lead the league in passing yards and passing TDs while winning both the regular-season and Super Bowl MVPs. It is those four qualities that allow this season to creep onto the list of greatest-of-all-time candidates. Besides, tight end Travis Kelce represented the only real dynamic offensive threat; the remainder of the rushing and receiving was done by a committee of relative no-names (such as Jerick McKinnon and Marquez Valdes-Scantling) and very young players (such as rookies Isiah Pacheco and Skyy Moore). What could potentially drag this season down are the relatively pedestrian interception numbers, but 2022 was also a historically good season for pass precision, with no qualified QB exceeding either 15 picks or an interception rate of even 4% (Dak Prescott resided in the basement in both of these statistical categories), and only Zach Wilson throwing more INTs than TDs among qualified QBs. Mahomes also broke the all-time record for yards accounted for by a quarterback (passing and rushing) in a season, previously held by Drew Brees, albeit with one more game than Brees.
The verdict: I think relative to his peers, Dan Marino's 1984 season stands out as the most impressive, as it stacks up 30-40 years later in much more high-powered offensive environments among some of the greatest performances on a raw statistical basis, and if not for the force that was the 1980s 49ers, it could have been Marino's only opportunity to take home a championship. But in my opinion, any of the other six seasons have a decent case for being the best of all time (or BOAT, which is a better acronym than GOAT).
Stafford had a 5000+ yard year in 2011 too. That year was completely crazy. If there's one season you can point to that completely changed a pro league, I feel like that year is it. It sparked the current Pass Happy state the league is in, no question.
Finally has the exact same opinion as me. I have been saying that for the longest.
Okay so I love how Tub starts off every video the same way
Such an underrated youtuber
Everyone forgets the other scare with the 2007 patriots: Baltimore. Needed a 4th down stop called back due to timeout from BAL (which the patriots converted on 2nd attempt) and stopping a receiver who caught a Hail Mary pass from crossing the goal line to win.
I'd rank them: [#1 Marino '84] [#2 Peyton '04] [#3 Brady '07]
If you account for inflation, or in other words, if the same passer happy rules were in place back then, Marino would've easily had 60+ TD's. That goes for '04 and '07 to a lesser extent too.
Stonehenge head? You mean Easter Island head?
This might not be the best statistical season, but Steve Young had to have been pretty happy with his 1994 season. MVP for the 2nd time, led the league in passing for the 4th consecutive year, set a new NFL record for single-season passer rating (112.8), went a league-best 13-3, beat the Cowboys in the NFC title game, trashed the Chargers in Super Bowl XXIX and was named Super Bowl MVP after throwing six touchdowns, which is still a Super Bowl record. Oh, and he also earned his law degree at some point in 1994. Yessir, things were goin' grand for ol' Esteban Jóven.
Amazing video and even better idea!
Please make more of this for other positions. Running Back and Wide Receiver would be great. I think giving the Defense some love would also be fun. Best Defensive Back or Lineman.
YES PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏🙂
Bro, the tape is creeping out the closet now lol.
Good video man, much appreciated.
Brady's 2010 season was insane also.
The regular show starting screen sound effect is such a nice touch imo
In regards to 2004 Peyton......he wasn't sitting in the dark sharpening his tools, he and the rest of the Colts were complaining to the NFL about how the Patriots' defense smothered his receivers and so, the NFL began highly enforcing the Illegal Contact Rule (it was already a rule but the Colts wanted it to be reinforced going forward and thus, the league really began clamping down defenders smothering receivers).
Of course, what followed was Peyton breaking Marino's record (literally the season AFTER the Colts wanted the league to reinforce the rule) but the Colts STILL getting stomped in the playoffs by the Pats. So even with the illegal contact rule, the Pats still had answers for Manning in the playoffs and he played even worse than he did the previous playoff game.
It's also the reason why Brady murdered the league three years later for 50 TDs, he took advantage of the rules as well and now, that's one of the major reasons why defenses seem soft today and don't cover receivers very closely.
Having that, Marino wins hands down. He threw 48 TDs and 5084 yards at a time where the illegal contact rule WASNT heavily enforced, the game was still focused more on the run than the pass, defenses were tougher and given more leeway, offenses were archaic and was a rarity at the time.
Patrick Mahomes throwing for over 5000 yards last year wasn't that impressive because it's been done so many times since Brees broke the record.......Marino doing it in 1984 is beyond impressive because defenses didn't know how to stop them until the Niners managed to do it in the SB.
thanks man, I like these types of videos
Marino’s 1984 is by far the best ever. QB rating is OK within a season but not in comparing eras. Offences and defenses are completely different. In the current era, poor quarterbacks have good ratings.
Haven’t started video yet, but coming in I think Dan Marino in 84 is the greatest season change my mind, modern numbers in a different era come on
I love how Barry kinda coined the phrase “woman respecter” in the football community🤣
Brady's '07 is the objective answer. On top of the records he broke, he was 16-0. Period.
Last Year Mahomes gotta be up here led the league in passing touchdowns, passing yards broke record for most total yards in a season ever, #1 seed in playoffs and won SuperBowl being injured in every single playoff game MVP, Superbowl, and Superbowl MVP all without tyreek hill in what many people said would be a rebuilding year.
I’d put Warner’s 99 season above it
@@Ax3v3211 Warner had the player that won mvp the next year in the league in his back field. Mahomes just lost tyreek hill that season. That’s the difference.
@@kleatise52 my guy he literally have Kelce who’s on pace to be the greatest tight end ever. To act as if Mahomes is purely doing it by himself when he has one of the greatest tight ends is crazy
@@Ax3v3211 okay and Warner still had 2 hall of fame wide receivers as well.
@@Ax3v3211 mahomes was also hurt throughout the playoffs and still won
I’ve been waiting on this video .. and again, TubFrog doesn’t disappoint. LOL…Still thinking on whether “the Sheriff became the Hunter” might be the coldest thing you’ve ever said…. And, no, NO it’s definitely not! Manning is a favorite…but, I’m impressed with Brady’s most impressive (statistically) season!
Hot take!!! Tub frog rules !!!
Clearly it's Dan Marino. Put 1984 Marino into the modern NFL rules favoring offenses and he'd destroy everyone even harder than he did in the 80s. That quick release of his was shocking to watch. While other quarterbacks often got violently assaulted in ways that should have led to felony charges, Marino would flick his wrist and unleash a bomb before defenders could get to him. He was a such a outlier that year that it took decades and many rule changes before elite QBs hit those numbers again.
But his lack of a superbowl ring does prove how hard it is to win a championship in the NFL. Or the fact all four of these seasons ended in an unceremonious loss. I guess Eli Manning really is the greatest.
loved the video amazingly done brother
Peyton Manning 2013 was the best season we’ve seen yet from a QB.
The Tom Brady poster in the background needs more tape, it keeps falling down
Crazy to believe that playoff Eli beat TWO of the four greatest QB seasons in NFL history. Sums up Eli's whole career. Not that good, but somehow did the impossible multiple times.
2011 had arguably two of the greatest QB seasons ever with Rodgers and Brees
Honestly, I’m pretty sure best QB season ever goes to 2022 Patrick Mahomes.
Led the league in passing TDs. Led the league in passing yards. Broke the NFL record for total offense in a season. Tied best record in the NFL at 14-3. Won the MVP. Won the Super Bowl. Won the Super Bowl MVP.
And to top it all off, he did all of that in a year where he had a completely new receiver core after having lost one of the best receivers ever in Tyreek Hill.
*AND* he played the entire playoffs with a high ankle sprain, an injury that generally sidelines athletes for at least a month.
Like, I don’t really think anything tops that.
It's very poetic how each of these seasons are considered the greatest in history for these QBs and not a single one resulted in a superbowl.
*laughs in Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson*
@@johnchedsey1306 please stop grouping Brad Johnson with Trent Dilfer. Brad Johnson was a legit good QB in different offenses, while Dilfer was mediocre at best.
IMO, The best QB season that ended in a Super Bowl win is Steve Young's 1994 season
I agree Frog. 2:33 - 2:51 is definitely the coldest thing I've heard you say (so far). Gave me a good laugh
Bro didn’t mention 2013 Peyton manning cause he knew that was too automatic😂
Taking notes from Barry McCockiner now are we
I Like tubfrog but he's a mix of KTO and Barry mcockinner in terms and videos and jokes
Your content is phenomenal. No graphics, music, jokes just pure substance. Don’t change a thing and pander to people with short attention spans.
What about 2013 Peyton Manning?
Great video though
Love your channel ❤
Bro you deserve way more sub
Marino '84. Sorry, but it's not even close when all things are considered. He changed the game, literally.
Steve Young's 1994 season should have been mentioned. Set the record for passer rating, league MVP, 42 total TD's (passing & rushing), no turnovers in the playoffs, Super Bowl record 6 TD's, Super MVP.
50 TD, 5000 yards. MVP. Passer rating of 113. Dominant.Only had 12 INTs. 2018 Mahommes has to be on this list.
Peyton Manning had a passer rating of 115.1 with 5,477 yards, 55 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 16 games in 2013. He was 36.
@@stuffofnitemares6161that’s why it’s a list, buddy! More than one person can be on it!
@@stuffofnitemares6161the other fun facts to consider. Mahomes had a total of 14 turnovers in 2018. He had a defense ranked #27
The had a total of 25 turnovers.
In 2013 Peyton had 17 total turnovers and his defense gave home the ball 31 times. His defense was ranked #9.
enjoy your videos, proven with stats etc. Keep it up!
Last time I was this early, I got fired from my job.🤦♂️ Great channel and keep up the good work 👍
Marino's season was just unheard of. Relative to the rest of the league it was unheard of. Mannings 2018 season is the best of all time, but not as impressive as Marinos.
What’s interesting is that for as great as Peyton manning’s 04 season was, it was arguably only his second best. That 2013 year with the broncos where he threw for 5477 yards and 55 TD’s, both being single season records, was legendary. They also won 1 more game than that 2004 colts team and made the Super Bowl before manning suffered the same fate of Brady and Marino’s best seasons by getting absolutely annihilated.
Manning also threw 150 more passes, had 5 more total turnovers, and wasn't close to as efficient as in 2004 after adjusting for era
@@laurinnn yeah he was old as hell and threw for 150 more passes
@@avacadomangobanana2588 being older doesn't make the season better or more impressive
@@laurinnn yes it literally does when you’re fucking 40
@@avacadomangobanana2588 nope it still has ZERO impact on who had the best season of all time
Could you do something on Harvey Martin and Coy Bacon in 1977 and 1976 . Also Lester Hayes in 1980 and Everson Walls in 1981 They great seasons which no one talks about.
Great video as always but you should've swapped '04 Manning with '13 Manning.
04 manning was better
@@ACLA23 they didnt watch. Their just looking at raw stats without context. 2004 was still old school, while post 2011 has been a QB nirvana for passing numbers. Look at how Cam.Newton threw for 4000 as a rookie and he wasnt even a great pure passer. We had 3 standout QBs in 2012(Luck, RG3, Wilson). Totally different game post 2011 passing wise to pre 2011.
Manning had a higher passer rating in 2004 in a less QB friendly era.
2007, 16-0 patriots Tom Brady. That year he was incredable that whole season. Led leauge in completion %, Passing Yards with 400 more than the next QB,, yards per play, Touchdowns where he threw for 50 and the second place QB threw only 36. Thats 14 more than second place also, yards per game, Passer Rating, QBR and 4 Game winning 4th quarter comebacks (most in league that season.. With all that slinging of the ball you may think he threw a bunch of INT, NOPE!!! He only threw 8. The least of any QB that started 16 games. No debate. Its 2007 Tom Brady.😮
ignorance is bliss
If im not mistaken, that Patriots vs Eagles should have been covered. I could be wrong (sorry if so) but isn't that the game that backup AJ Feeley had a near prefect game?
I love watching the Tom Brady picture become progressively more taped to the wall.
This is the only channel where I watch videos at 1.75x and it feels like normal speed.
Good to know, I’ll work on talking faster in the future, I also feel like I talk slowly at times
Aaron Rodgers is #1 for the greatest season.
Steve McNair was so good that even Jeff Fisher couldn’t stop him.
Tom Brady: "His biggest scare" was not Week 17. Or Week 12. In Week 13 he needed four 4th down tries on his final drive against the Ravens. On three of those he was stopped, but was bailed out by two penalties and a Rex Ryan timeout.
2007 Tom Brady and I don’t think it’s close because though 2013 2004 and 2009 manning all have a case Brady has one thing manning Bree’s rodgers or Marino never had. PERFECTION. Manning had Marvin Harrison and the first year Brady got a receiver as good as Harrison he didn’t lose and lead the most dominant team ever
I know you probably had to limit the amount of QB's on here because of time, but you should have had 1989 Joe Montana on here. In the regular reason he had a passer rating of 112.4, but what was even more impressive was the playoff run. He had the most ridiculous playoff run of all time where he threw 11 touchdowns, 0 picks, averaged 9.6 yards per attempt, had a completion percentage of 78.3, and had a passer rating of 146.4. In my eyes this season easily has an argument for being the greatest of all time.
I still can’t believe the Steelers passed up on Marino.
I’d have to go with Marino. Imo Brady’s unanimous mvp season was better than his 2007. He was throwing to the corpse of randy moss, rookie gronk and welker was out a quarter of the season. They did have a killer tight end combo that season tho.
Here's the deal. People who don't study film don't fully understand how absolutely GREAT Manning was. Probably the most cerebral QB of all time, and it's not close. To cap it off, Peyton Manning had a passer rating of 115.1 with 5,477 yards, 55 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 16 games in 2013. He was 36 almost 37. Which is BONKERS. His 2004 season is the first season I remember watching at a young age, and Peyton literally made me a lifelong colts fan during that season.
Tub frog your the goat please respond!
I’m not tubfrog but I can respond
I’m not tubfrog but I can respond
@@tubfrog you’re tubfrog so you can respond
Argument against him is the awful defenses he faced vs Brady’s 07 campaign vs Pittsburg, Philly, SD, Indy, Washington etc. But having a brick wall of an o line and Moss and Welker made Matt Cassel a rich man.
Argument against Rodgers is his backup throwing for over 500 yards and 6 TD’s dropping 45 on a Lions team playing for the #5 seed.
Manning threw 49 TD’s in only 15 games.
1) 2013 Manning
2) 2007 Brady
3) 2004 Manning
4) 1984 Marino
5) 2011 Rodgers
1999 Kurt Warner...2 years removed from bagging groceries...plugged in last minute due to Trent Green injury...of all teams, the sad-sack Rams who were arguably the worst team of the 90s (before 99), puts up over 4000 yards, 41 TD, only 13 Int, NFL MVP, Superbowl Champion, and Super Bowl MVP thanks to 73 yard TD to Isaac Bruce in the waning minutes of the game. Story-wise, hard to top that season
But what about 2013 Peyton Manning? I would argue that was his best season over his 2004 season despite that one also being incredibly special.
2004 and 2013 are completely different era's of football. Its much more impressive what he did in the early 00's back when you could still hit the QB.
@@pointyheadYT eras don't matter when you talking about the greatest seasons every and 2013 peyton manning had the greatest season ever for a qb
@@kuramafoofoo3043 his 2004 season was better. He actually threw more TDs per attempt 9.9% vs 8.3%. Had a higher passer rating 121.1 vs 115.1, and more yards per attempt 9.2 vs 8.3. He did have a higher pick rate in 2004 2% vs 1.5% and completed at a slightly worse rate 67.6 vs 68.3, but when you adjust for era it clearly makes up for that.
Johnny Unitas and Joe Namath should be in the debate. The rules and the equipment were different before 1981. They both would have put up monster numbers against soft modern defenses.
Babe wake up, tubfrog uploaded 😊
Drew Brees 2011 season could have been up there if it didn’t happened with Aaron Rosgers legendary season.
The Patriots were winning Superbowls. Tom Brady was always average or worse in the playoffs. Even the one or two games he had amazing numbers, the majority were check downs and had some freak penalty or something else happen to help him win
exactly
2003 Colts beat the Chiefs in the No Punt game in the playoffs, causing the Chiefs to fire Robinson and hiring Gunther Cunningham as DC (joining the team who fired him four years earlier)... Chiefs wanted revenge on the Colts and that was the reason they beat them in 2004.
Drew Brees has had the best second best seasons ever. He had like half a dozen MVP caliber seasons and people still bash him for not winning one.
Manning doesn’t supposed to have 5 tbh. Brees supposed to have like 2
I do think 1992 for Aikman was a great year Being the 2nd best passer of the year and ended the year as SB champ.
2013 Manning and 2016 Brady, 2016 Brady was suspended 4 games to start the year but then proceeded to have the best touchdown to interception ratio in history with 28 touchdowns to 2 interceptions then won the superbowl after the Falcons died in the 3rd quarter
The best QB season ever by far was Peyton Manning’s 2013 season
2015 Cam Newton
2018 Patrick Mahomes
2013 Peyton Manning
2019 Lamar Jackson
uhhhh
As a Giants fan, it pleases me that Eli has ruined not one, but TWO legendary runs.
FLUTIE and GARCIA in the CFL was mind blowing statistically.
2013 Peyton, 2018 and 2022 Pat are missing.
And 2011 Drew Brees was mentioned but GOD DAMN that was lit
Pats fan here but gotta go Marino. That season was insane
No body can spin the ball and fit it in the tightest window like Rodgers. He may not be a winner but sure can throw the football