Konservativ Fornuft maybe you should argue with Nassim (you would lose) Stefan Molyneux is a joke and a charlatan. read Nassim’s books instead of judging him off a retard’s video.
Konservativ Fornuft isn’t Stefan Molyneux a racist or something? Not guilt by association but simply deductive reasoning (all racists are brain dead morons so if Stefan is a racist then he is a brain dead moron).
This is splendid. And if you don't ming my saying this (I'm an old man, a widower, and artist, and will say what I damn well please--and besides, I read Classical Arabic and am teaching myself Bibilical Hebrew), you both have beautiful faces and great voices. And I will buy, as I can pay for them (what else), your books. Glad to have discovered you, both of you.
@@clairebennett7831 #87, 65:10, predicting Sweden to be dead in 10 years. That would be 2025, so a little more than 3 years for him to be right, though I am not seeing it.
choose the path of humility and you will become a person of integrity. when you become a person of integrity you will develop the one virtue that cannot be faked-courage.
Taleb is a great author but I've never found him to be all that great of a public speaker. But here he's incredibly affable and articulate speaking off the cuff.
Nassim Taleb is the sort of mind that is a lot to work to watch, because I just have to grab a notebook and anotate everything he says. So much fascinating and enriching information. Whether ultimately I'll agree or not, everthing he says opens my mind to new profound understandings.
Nassim gets a lot of hate because he slings a lot of shit at intellectuals publicly (a few of which I respect)....Whether or not it's justified, he really doesn't care and his brilliance more than makes up for it. 'Thinking Fast and Slow' and 'Incerto' changed the way I see things...They're one of those books where I think I'm so smart when I start reading them then when finish them I realize I'm not as smart as I think I am but I become smarter knowing that.....It's a bullshit cleansing process.
His twitter persona (squid ink, gabish etc) makes him an easy target but I suspect he gets a kick out of annoying a certain kind of twitter IYI. I notice a lot of the more intelligent people that seem to go after him are also going after Peterson now ('cult followers'), which one assumes is fuelled mainly by jealousy. You know when you see 'views my own, RTs not endorsements' type bullshit in a twitter profile, there is not skin in the game. I dare not ever swim against the tide, or say anything edgy or controversial for fear of jeopardising my nice safe existence, or god forbid offending any of my sub 10k followers.
What a great interview! I could listen to you two go on all day! This is one of my best viewings in a very long time--a remarkable exchange between two extraordinarily bright individuals about things that really matter. The intersection of science and religion is too seldom discussed, and you both addressed so much today about issues affecting our culture. Thank you! Thank you ! Thank you! I just hope I have the pleasure and privilege of meeting you both somewhere down the line. Keep pursuing your passions, and sharing them with us. They make a difference!
For brief moments, I imagined myself listening in on an ancient Phoenician conversation. As though two great minds were just passed down to us from the ancient Phoenician tribes. I did not understand their personal Phoenician remarks. But when they spoke those Phoenician words, I clearly heard in their voice, the great affection and regard they bear toward each other. As they move our knowledge forward. I could listen to this type of conversation hour after hour. And learn more practical knowledge than I can at any University.
Nassim Nicholas Taleb discusses the importance of skin in the game, academia's need for scrutiny, and the power of the minority rule. He also explores the role of religion in transmitting risk management and enforcing social norms. Taleb's perspective on rationality aligns with ecological rationality, focusing on observed behavior rather than what individuals say. He emphasizes that religion and science have different domains and should not be pitted against each other. Key Insights: - Skin in the game demonstrates a commitment to beliefs and actions. - Academia should face the same scrutiny as other professions. - The minority rule allows small groups to impose their will on the majority. - Religion transmits risk management and enforces social norms. - Rationality should focus on observed behavior, not just what individuals say. - Religion and science have different domains and should coexist. Actionable Items: - Hold academics accountable for their beliefs and actions by encouraging skin in the game. - Promote critical thinking and scrutiny in academia to prevent the spread of ideas disconnected from reality. - Be vigilant against the imposition of the minority rule on the majority. - Emphasize risk management and social norms in religious practices. - Base rationality on observed behavior rather than relying solely on individuals' words.
Love both these guys and was pleasantly surprised to find this interview over half a decade since publication. Of course, Taleb has been very wrong on crypto, but nobody can be right all the time...
Fascinating discussion of minority religion and dietary norms @ 33:35. Sikhs are prohibited from eating any sacrificial meat for precisely this reason: to resist the minority rule imposed by Islam in the densely Muslim Punjabi heartlands.
Omg I can't believe this is real! I just read black swan and thought of you when he was talking about being a refugee from Lebanon. So cool to hear you guys talking to each other!!
Within 10 pages of reading 'A very short introduction to game theory' by Ken Binmore, I was so impressed that I ordered his big book 'Natural Justice'. Nice to know that taleb also worships the guy
One does better not overstretch the SITG concept but overall putting first the concept of honor is a kind of refoundation of ethics that we so desperately needs today.
I love Taleb. I was raised an Orthodox Jew but lost my faith. I would give anything to regain it. Nassim understands religion in a way Gad does not. Taleb can give a credible lecture on kashruth. It comes under the category of “chok’, a commandment which ia not rational or accessible to the individual. It need not be. The importance is in the adherence to the creed. Religion doesn’t draw on the same circuits as science.
Sir GaDSaaD thx for this Arthurian Face à Face. WoW you both had my full attention for sixty minutes. Mr Taleb was a personal inspiration to me back when derivatives trading was in its infancy. I am always on the lookout for his latest book. Again thx.
So I'm confused. On the one hand, he says it's only the Wahhabi brand of Islam we need to worry about as stealth colonisers, but on the other hand he cites the 1300-year process of the colonisation of Egypt. Surely he doesn't think the early muslim immigrants to Egypt were Wahhabis? It's an 18th-century invention. And - while I'm on the subject - I can't see on what basis he claims that Shia Islam doesn't constitute a threat in this vein. Tell that to the Zoroastrians.
Yeah, Indonesia's a great example. Here's an account of the process from an Indonesian convert to Chrisianity: "For thousands of years my country (Indonesia) was a Hindu Buddhist kingdom. The last Hindu king was kind enough to give a tax exempt property for the first Muslim missionary to live and to preach his religion. Slowly the followers of the new religion were growing, and after they became so strong the kingdom was attacked, those who refused to become Muslims had to flee for their life to the neighboring island of Bali or to a high mountain of Tengger, where they have been able to keep their religion until now. Slowly from the Hindu Buddhist Kingdom, Indonesia became the largest Islamic country in the world. If there is any lesson to be learnt by Americans at all, the history of my country is worth pondering upon. We are not hate mongering, bigoted people; rather, we are freedom loving, democracy loving and human loving people. We just don't want this freedom and democracy to be taken away from us by our ignorance and misguided "political correctness", and the pretension of tolerance." (Source: Facing Islam, endorsement section).
That's because Taleb is one of the only non-SJW non-islamophobic guests that Gad Saad had on his channel. Finally a more nuanced intelligent conversation for adults. Thumbs up for Taleb!
Just out of interest - I've heard Saudi is spending huge amounts of money in Indonesia and SE asia for mosques/'schools'/etc, pushing fundamentalist islam? Btw, I agree and to add to your point - surely Taleb would have an issue if western countries started to look anything like Iran
Yes, and from what I hear, Iran is the main funder and behind-the-scenes controller of Hezbollah in his beloved Lebanon. So I found his opinion of Shia Islam surprising.
That was delightful. Taleb usually comes across as impossibly haughty, dismissive and insulting, but in this conversation I found him to be gracious and engaging. His intellectual prowess is something marvellous to behold, but it is more pleasant to partake of when he himself is pleasant IMHO.
He's Phoenician? I thought the last of them were taken out by the Romans in the 2nd Punic Wars (the Carthaginians). Good chat, I think I'll pick up a copy of Black Swan and give it a read.
Phoenicianism is a movement amongst Lebanese christians to distance themselves from arabization, which is a foreign, Imperial influence brought by the sword shortly after the death of mohammed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicianism
@ 34:30: until around 10 years ago, ice cream used to be sold in half gallons (ca 1.9 liters), but during a period when gas and diesel were very expensive (ca $4/ gallon) they kept the prices the same but reduced the amount of ice cream by around 25%. It’s hard to tell a 25% difference, visually, in a cylinder. This allowed them to save on shipping and remain profitable. However, fuel prices have since decreased, yet these containers remain the same size for the vast majority of vendors.
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Two of my favorite mobsters in one frame !
souvick choudhury Mafia Arabia of Academia
gang gang
Both from Lebanon 🇱🇧
I love u both
Taleb is one of the few thinkers around today who can change how you see things. I love him
Jay Paul
will u propose?
Jay Paul....or has the authority to confirm a position already, but perhaps tenuously, adopted. Like Prof Saad.
AND TALEB LOVES HIMSELF TOO
Konservativ Fornuft maybe you should argue with Nassim (you would lose) Stefan Molyneux is a joke and a charlatan. read Nassim’s books instead of judging him off a retard’s video.
Konservativ Fornuft isn’t Stefan Molyneux a racist or something? Not guilt by association but simply deductive reasoning (all racists are brain dead morons so if Stefan is a racist then he is a brain dead moron).
This is splendid. And if you don't ming my saying this (I'm an old man, a widower, and artist, and will say what I damn well please--and besides, I read Classical Arabic and am teaching myself Bibilical Hebrew), you both have beautiful faces and great voices. And I will buy, as I can pay for them (what else), your books. Glad to have discovered you, both of you.
OMG! It's real! Taleb and Saad together! That made my day for sure. Awesome, awesome stuff. You both rock. Thanks!
Saad has shown a lack of courage in that he has only been willing to discuss his statement of Sweden being dead in 10 years with non-swedes.
@@urbankoistinen5688 What do you mean?
@@clairebennett7831 #87, 65:10, predicting Sweden to be dead in 10 years. That would be 2025, so a little more than 3 years for him to be right, though I am not seeing it.
choose the path of humility and you will become a person of integrity. when you become a person of integrity you will develop the one virtue that cannot be faked-courage.
Taleb is a great author but I've never found him to be all that great of a public speaker. But here he's incredibly affable and articulate speaking off the cuff.
Thank you Saad. Great session. Looking forward for more NNT on your podcast.
This should have 10x the number of views it has
Thank you Gad and Nassim, it would be great to see a follow up conversation!
Nassim Taleb is the sort of mind that is a lot to work to watch, because I just have to grab a notebook and anotate everything he says. So much fascinating and enriching information. Whether ultimately I'll agree or not, everthing he says opens my mind to new profound understandings.
I have been really looking forward to watching this this. 👍 Thank you both so very much for your time!
Gad, please, please, please get Taleb on Rogan's podcast. Thanks, great conversation!
Nassim gets a lot of hate because he slings a lot of shit at intellectuals publicly (a few of which I respect)....Whether or not it's justified, he really doesn't care and his brilliance more than makes up for it. 'Thinking Fast and Slow' and 'Incerto' changed the way I see things...They're one of those books where I think I'm so smart when I start reading them then when finish them I realize I'm not as smart as I think I am but I become smarter knowing that.....It's a bullshit cleansing process.
llamasarus1 he didn’t write think fast and slow
His twitter persona (squid ink, gabish etc) makes him an easy target but I suspect he gets a kick out of annoying a certain kind of twitter IYI. I notice a lot of the more intelligent people that seem to go after him are also going after Peterson now ('cult followers'), which one assumes is fuelled mainly by jealousy. You know when you see 'views my own, RTs not endorsements' type bullshit in a twitter profile, there is not skin in the game. I dare not ever swim against the tide, or say anything edgy or controversial for fear of jeopardising my nice safe existence, or god forbid offending any of my sub 10k followers.
Joash Bekele I’m aware
add the drunkard's walk to incerto and thinking fast and slow
It's wonderful to see Dr. Saad with such a big smile on his face.
What a great interview! I could listen to you two go on all day! This is one of my best viewings in a very long time--a remarkable exchange between two extraordinarily bright individuals about things that really matter. The intersection of science and religion is too seldom discussed, and you both addressed so much today about issues affecting our culture. Thank you! Thank you ! Thank you! I just hope I have the pleasure and privilege of meeting you both somewhere down the line. Keep pursuing your passions, and sharing them with us. They make a difference!
Thank you, Taleb. You have re-inspired my need to be courageous. You are truly as inspired as you are brilliant!
For brief moments, I imagined myself listening in on an ancient Phoenician conversation. As though two great minds were just passed down to us from the ancient Phoenician tribes.
I did not understand their personal Phoenician remarks. But when they spoke those Phoenician words, I clearly heard in their voice, the great affection and regard they bear toward each other. As they move our knowledge forward.
I could listen to this type of conversation hour after hour. And learn more practical knowledge than I can at any University.
Thanks so much for organising this meeting of the minds!
What an awesome surprise to see Taleb!
Nassim Nicholas Taleb discusses the importance of skin in the game, academia's need for scrutiny, and the power of the minority rule. He also explores the role of religion in transmitting risk management and enforcing social norms. Taleb's perspective on rationality aligns with ecological rationality, focusing on observed behavior rather than what individuals say. He emphasizes that religion and science have different domains and should not be pitted against each other.
Key Insights:
- Skin in the game demonstrates a commitment to beliefs and actions.
- Academia should face the same scrutiny as other professions.
- The minority rule allows small groups to impose their will on the majority.
- Religion transmits risk management and enforces social norms.
- Rationality should focus on observed behavior, not just what individuals say.
- Religion and science have different domains and should coexist.
Actionable Items:
- Hold academics accountable for their beliefs and actions by encouraging skin in the game.
- Promote critical thinking and scrutiny in academia to prevent the spread of ideas disconnected from reality.
- Be vigilant against the imposition of the minority rule on the majority.
- Emphasize risk management and social norms in religious practices.
- Base rationality on observed behavior rather than relying solely on individuals' words.
hoping for another conversation between these two soon
Fantastic conversation. I really appreciated this one.
Man! This is absolutely riveting stuff. Gad Saad at his best; terrific guest.
I was a big Taleb fan when Black Swan came out. Rediscovering him now to find he has the exact right take on the world since.
Two legends. Thank you RUclips feed
You made my day Gad, you and NNT in one RUclips frame is just brilliant!!! Very captivating conversation!
@7:48 Thomas Sowell talks about this phenomenon in his book Intellectuals and Society.
Most comfy Taleb interview I've seen
Love nassim taleb ,he is so smart and genuine, I love also when you guys speak Arabic sounds cute .trop mignon .
You both are amazing. What a great morning to start with?!
Such a pleasure, great talk!
Freaking terrific talk. Nassin knows so damn much.
I just love the way he snaps out of nowhere those french citation , talleb s magic
"If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear (hide)" - Eric Schmidt, Google
That's what my cousin says in his sanctimonious way. Of course, he is a malignant narcissist.
Fascinating discussion. Thia is where I hope RUclips heads. It can be a good "end around" the universities as far as teaching and knowledge.
Two of my favorite people. Even though I don't have the math knowledge to truly understand their subjects.
Wow. What an honour to come from the same place as these two brilliant minds...
Dr. Saad, Mr. Taleb's description of academic echo-chambers is the perfect compliment to your treatment of consilience. Expect a write-up!
When I was scrolling through my subs “oohhh shiiiet Nassim!”
Love both these guys and was pleasantly surprised to find this interview over half a decade since publication. Of course, Taleb has been very wrong on crypto, but nobody can be right all the time...
Awesome chat.Very enlightening.
Please have him on again soon! One of the greatest thinkers of our time
Sneeze at 21:51 is pure fire.
Fascinating discussion of minority religion and dietary norms @ 33:35. Sikhs are prohibited from eating any sacrificial meat for precisely this reason: to resist the minority rule imposed by Islam in the densely Muslim Punjabi heartlands.
Wow, what a fantastic guest!
Omg I can't believe this is real! I just read black swan and thought of you when he was talking about being a refugee from Lebanon. So cool to hear you guys talking to each other!!
Thank you Gad and Nassim
"Darwin forbid" hahaha Gaad is hilarious. Taleb could use some of his sense of humour!
Within 10 pages of reading 'A very short introduction to game theory' by Ken Binmore, I was so impressed that I ordered his big book 'Natural Justice'. Nice to know that taleb also worships the guy
One does better not overstretch the SITG concept but overall putting first the concept of honor is a kind of refoundation of ethics that we so desperately needs today.
what a wonderful interview
I need another Nassim Talen podcast pleasssseeeeee
I love Taleb. I was raised an Orthodox Jew but lost my faith. I would give anything to regain it. Nassim understands religion in a way Gad does not. Taleb can give a credible lecture on kashruth. It comes under the category of “chok’, a commandment which ia not rational or accessible to the individual. It need not be. The importance is in the adherence to the creed. Religion doesn’t draw on the same circuits as science.
God damn. I’m going to have to watch this at least twice again to gleam everything. Such rich thought
Omg omg omg been waiting for this moment for yrs!!
Perception drives behavior! Nassim Taleb changed my perception, by sharing his thoughts via his books, hence my behavior.
I've just discovered this ... 5 years late. Transformative for me.
I respect Gad's respect. He allows Nassim to say his piece.
Sir GaDSaaD thx for this Arthurian Face à Face. WoW you both had my full attention for sixty minutes. Mr Taleb was a personal inspiration to me back when derivatives trading was in its infancy. I am always on the lookout for his latest book. Again thx.
Thanks for doing this
The German town is Bielefeld. Except it of course isn't, because as we all know, it doesn't exist.
So I'm confused. On the one hand, he says it's only the Wahhabi brand of Islam we need to worry about as stealth colonisers, but on the other hand he cites the 1300-year process of the colonisation of Egypt. Surely he doesn't think the early muslim immigrants to Egypt were Wahhabis? It's an 18th-century invention. And - while I'm on the subject - I can't see on what basis he claims that Shia Islam doesn't constitute a threat in this vein. Tell that to the Zoroastrians.
Yeah, Indonesia's a great example. Here's an account of the process from an Indonesian convert to Chrisianity:
"For thousands of years my country (Indonesia) was a Hindu Buddhist kingdom. The last Hindu king was kind enough to give a tax exempt property for the first Muslim missionary to live and to preach his religion. Slowly the followers of the new religion were growing, and after they became so strong the kingdom was attacked, those who refused to become Muslims had to flee for their life to the neighboring island of Bali or to a high mountain of Tengger, where they have been able to keep their religion until now. Slowly from the Hindu Buddhist Kingdom, Indonesia became the largest Islamic country in the world. If there is any lesson to be learnt by Americans at all, the history of my country is worth pondering upon. We are not hate mongering, bigoted people; rather, we are freedom loving, democracy loving and human loving people. We just don't want this freedom and democracy to be taken away from us by our ignorance and misguided "political correctness", and the pretension of tolerance." (Source: Facing Islam, endorsement section).
That's because Taleb is one of the only non-SJW non-islamophobic guests that Gad Saad had on his channel. Finally a more nuanced intelligent conversation for adults. Thumbs up for Taleb!
EducateTheFundamentalist That's an interesting viewpoint. So we can reframe a logical inconsistency as 'nuance' now?
Just out of interest - I've heard Saudi is spending huge amounts of money in Indonesia and SE asia for mosques/'schools'/etc, pushing fundamentalist islam?
Btw, I agree and to add to your point - surely Taleb would have an issue if western countries started to look anything like Iran
Yes, and from what I hear, Iran is the main funder and behind-the-scenes controller of Hezbollah in his beloved Lebanon. So I found his opinion of Shia Islam surprising.
The problem with is Islam is Islam. I used to be a Muslim.
14:00 "Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you,
for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets."
21:50 ... I had this open in the background. That sneeze scared me so much
One of the most elucidating conversations about Taleb’s work. Minus the Fenician bits.
Wow! big fan of NNT, thumbs up even before watching!
Wish nassim would do more youtube vids, love his twitter.
Mabrouk, Professor, one of your best posts!
What a treat. Looking for a group of enthusiast to start a citation ring. ;-) Perhaps with an annual conference at Bielefeld.
Please have Nassim Taleb on again, awesome mind and conversations
his article on what religious identifiers mean was great.
I love that: the only virtue that can't be faked--courage.
54:05 that is a very interesting point that compliments but supercedes Gad's argument.
i need to watch this again awesome
Great chat!!
Excellent interview with Mr Taleb.
This is amazing. Thanks!
Beautiful, powerful!
My two favorite Handsome Men!
Lot adds Gaad ,, I'm being bombarded by ads to help build a mosque in New York.. seriously 😎🤣😎👍ps thanks for the great content.
When you change the way you look at things, things you look at change .
"Im hopeless at putting furniture together". - wow Gad, you really are Jewish!! :)
Dennis
Yet a Jewish carpenter is the most famous man in the world ;)
@@Mamothrept He clearly wasn't a very good carpenter.
That was delightful. Taleb usually comes across as impossibly haughty, dismissive and insulting, but in this conversation I found him to be gracious and engaging. His intellectual prowess is something marvellous to behold, but it is more pleasant to partake of when he himself is pleasant IMHO.
Needs someone who can spar with him like Gad
i feel it bit less dumb now after listenning these bright intellectual guys!
Fellas, rejoice!
Two MED-brothers (not Arab invaders!, if you don't believe, check their haplogroup) having a nice conversation.
Taleb keeps badmouthing my haplogroup tho.
When? Where?
Just check his Twitter account, he apparently believes my paternal ancestors were Arab invaders.
מפיץ זעם
Who were your paternal ancestors and what did Taleb say - just as a matter of interest!
He keeps badmouthing my duplogroup
When Gad Saad speaks Hebrew, it sounds like Arabic.
My copy arrived today!
One person driving manual transmission, and insane bumper to bumper traffic made the automatic transmission king!
Skin in the game so inspiring to me - take a noble risk
Reading Skin in the Game - Epic
Never been prouder to be of Phoenician Extraction.
"man risks more than life" (rilke)
Every time I read or listen to Nassim Nicholas Taleb, I start feeling depressed because I feel like I'm staring at the abyss.
When I typed Nassim Taleb on YT, I was hoping for a Ted talk. Instead, I found something better.
He's Phoenician? I thought the last of them were taken out by the Romans in the 2nd Punic Wars (the Carthaginians). Good chat, I think I'll pick up a copy of Black Swan and give it a read.
Phoenicianism is a movement amongst Lebanese christians to distance themselves from arabization, which is a foreign, Imperial influence brought by the sword shortly after the death of mohammed.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenicianism
@ 34:30: until around 10 years ago, ice cream used to be sold in half gallons (ca 1.9 liters), but during a period when gas and diesel were very expensive (ca $4/ gallon) they kept the prices the same but reduced the amount of ice cream by around 25%. It’s hard to tell a 25% difference, visually, in a cylinder. This allowed them to save on shipping and remain profitable. However, fuel prices have since decreased, yet these containers remain the same size for the vast majority of vendors.
awesome...have the skin on hold at the library
Have him on again to talk about finance. Thanks.