The electronics on modern bikes are brilliant but it’s also scary how replacing the horn can cause an error like this. Fascinating video! You must be sick of the sight of batteries & cables? I imagine you ride around on a 1970 Honda C90 as they have no electronics 😉 Nice to see a PDM60 in there too, I’m a great fan of those units.
Its because of the software in the control unit from factory its design to show a fault, its like when you change from bulbs, to LED. this fault will happen, the LED still work as normal besides the indicators will flash to fast, therefore we fit resisters to draw more current, control unit thinks its got bulbs again. Good video James 👍 really like your work I'm not a motor bike tech, im truck diesel tech. Its getting harder to find people to do a good job in this trade now adays! so I think you inspire a lot from your channel. Cheers niall .
As an electronics engineer and a life long motorcyclist this is where some smart arse has decided we need more electronics to tell us the horn doesn't work. It's pretty bloody obvious if the horn doesn't work when you press the button and there's no sound. Electronics for the sake of it.
LOL. That’s why I’d prefer old bikes with no electronics except for the CDI and a few bulbs. So easy to fix yourself. Having said that I recently fitted some led indicators and it was quite satisfying figuring out the resistors and how to fit them.
Personally, the only thing worth changing IMO is the indicator timing for an electronic device so you can fit any type of indicator, who wants big ugly resistors everywhere. The only other thing I've added to a bike which I built myself, (long before you could get cheap DVMs) was a battery voltage indicator after getting stranded out in the countryside after the regulator to battery lead connection broke from corrosion, headlight getting dimmer till it's too late. Alarms, there's a rip off.
Well the resistors I fitted I managed to very neatly tie up hidden away, no issue. Funny you should mention a voltage indicator as I was just thinking of doing the same.
This is probably the easy and cheap way of fixing it but saying this, it is also a wasteful one in terms of electric power because the resistor is using it without any need for it. There are other products to instal like an easycan or simular where the electricity is not wasted for resistors, also a tip for people using leds for indicators instead of buying resistors buy adjustable indicator relays you safe power and it doesn't heat up...
I'm not really sure anyone is going to be to worried about drawing 1 amp once in a blue moon when the horn is pressed. Especially as it's exactly how it was out of factory with a standard horn fitted!
The electronics on modern bikes are brilliant but it’s also scary how replacing the horn can cause an error like this. Fascinating video! You must be sick of the sight of batteries & cables? I imagine you ride around on a 1970 Honda C90 as they have no electronics 😉 Nice to see a PDM60 in there too, I’m a great fan of those units.
Good job, nice to see you again.
A serial and parallel conection of resistance is explained in elementary school, at least in Poland - just FYI ;-)
More videos please, Its great to see what ever Fixed and also correctly explained by an expert. Cheers Jim .
@Superbike Surgery Ltd how did you determine what value (resistance in Ohms) resistor to use? Great hand-on video, really helpful guide 👍👍👍
Its because of the software in the control unit from factory its design to show a fault, its like when you change from bulbs, to LED. this fault will happen, the LED still work as normal besides the indicators will flash to fast, therefore we fit resisters to draw more current, control unit thinks its got bulbs again. Good video James 👍 really like your work I'm not a motor bike tech, im truck diesel tech. Its getting harder to find people to do a good job in this trade now adays! so I think you inspire a lot from your channel. Cheers niall
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A piece of block-out vinyl sticker placed over the fault screen works well too....out of sight, out of mind ;)
Nice 1 fella!
Ohm's law and shunt resistors - nearly had to get me head back in the book for that one!
How to fool the CAN bus 👍🏻
Glad to hear your wife has come on board as chief censure!!
Haha :)
Can we have an update video on the r6 pls ?
Or have I missed it??
Hi great video will we get part two of the r6 it be nice to see it running with the carbs done
Hi Mark, Part 2 is up on Patreon at the moment, it'll be available here in the next couple of weeks. Thanks for watching and taking an intrest Dude.
is it be good to attach horn without relay to bike. i think skipping relay and resistor will put current draw and remove error from system
Any way you could post a wiring diagram for what you've done here?
As an electronics engineer and a life long motorcyclist this is where some smart arse has decided we need more electronics to tell us the horn doesn't work. It's pretty bloody obvious if the horn doesn't work when you press the button and there's no sound. Electronics for the sake of it.
LOL. That’s why I’d prefer old bikes with no electronics except for the CDI and a few bulbs. So easy to fix yourself. Having said that I recently fitted some led indicators and it was quite satisfying figuring out the resistors and how to fit them.
Personally, the only thing worth changing IMO is the indicator timing for an electronic device so you can fit any type of indicator, who wants big ugly resistors everywhere. The only other thing I've added to a bike which I built myself, (long before you could get cheap DVMs) was a battery voltage indicator after getting stranded out in the countryside after the regulator to battery lead connection broke from corrosion, headlight getting dimmer till it's too late. Alarms, there's a rip off.
Well the resistors I fitted I managed to very neatly tie up hidden away, no issue. Funny you should mention a voltage indicator as I was just thinking of doing the same.
👍👍
This is probably the easy and cheap way of fixing it but saying this, it is also a wasteful one in terms of electric power because the resistor is using it without any need for it. There are other products to instal like an easycan or simular where the electricity is not wasted for resistors, also a tip for people using leds for indicators instead of buying resistors buy adjustable indicator relays you safe power and it doesn't heat up...
I'm not really sure anyone is going to be to worried about drawing 1 amp once in a blue moon when the horn is pressed. Especially as it's exactly how it was out of factory with a standard horn fitted!