Just upgraded from 3 PB 1000’s to dual PB 3000’s a week ago. After dialing them in with my mini dsp all I can say is wow!!! Potent is the perfect word to describe these. The 1000’s were great but these are in a different category. Thanks for your thorough review and information on these.
I just bought dual PB 3000's a few weeks ago.... I am still playing with them, but they are awesome, really awesome. The whole space is more than uniform in bass and they kick and never sound stressed. Deep and full sound. The app tipped me over on these and if you have the budget get them. App works great and easy to dial in from your listening position. I felt like they were more expensive than some alternatives, but the have the latest Technology! Customer service and Warranty.
I just ordered a pair of 3000's. Reviews like yours helped me make the call. I had just purchased the 2000 pro's and they were so awesome that I knew the 3000's would be what I need. The 2000's were meant to be a place holder since I couldn't afford what I wanted. Thing is they were so amazing that I realized I was closer than I thought and if I upgraded now I could have the sound I needed. First time I upgrade because something was awesome...lol. I always upgrade when something seems lacking, this time it was because something was so good, I got inspired to go higher. Great review, thanks for painting the picture of these. Can't wait til the 29th when mine arrive. I got the isolation feet too for them so that just kicked it over the top for me. Thanks again!!
I just love SVS and the level of commitment to the industry and customer. I might have to get the 3000s I have a friend wanting to buy my PC2000s in my small setup.
I just got the 3000s in a few days ago. Definitely enjoying them more and more each time I listen. Amazing punch for the money. Great review, love the channel.
Just got my Dual PB-3000s today. Used the upgrade from my Dual PB-2000 Pros. The 2000 Pros were nice but the 3000s sound way better. Much deeper, less chuffing due to more power being delivered. Thanks again for your measured posts. You don’t post much but I look forward to your posts because they are substantive without fluff.
About ported vs sealed . Correct me if I'm wrong. According to the graphs you have included. They sound deeper because people can hear 30-20 Hz but can not hear < 15Hz even if they go deeper. However if sub has enough power, and moves enough air you can feel 11Hz. Btw great review. :) love the bouns dog content :D
Pair of sb 2000s here. Plenty for me. Shakes the house enough for me. More of a music guy so like my setup. I don't even turn them up because they would overpower my other speakers. Unless I got a dedicated amp with a pre amp receiver I wouldn't waste my money on the power I won't use. I would need a bigger room to justify spending more. 9.2 atmos. 2 subs, 2 towers, center, 4 elevation speakers and 2 bipolar speakers. Full svs speakers. Into it 4500 in speakers. Plenty for me.
I got a pb1000 10 inch 300 watt SVS about 7 months ago ... It still blows me away. The bass is so refined and tight With a PUNCH ! only half way turn up. Only 500 bucks Seems like a lot of money to me at first but the quality and sound is JL w7 car bass levels Blur vision These subs NOT for kids who do not have some restrained.... You can SHAKE your house APART!
I had the Dali e12f and two of them had issues with the cabinet. I lost faith in the product after rave reviews about the quality of the product and bad advice from their cs team (blown coil). I came to your page and watched your reviews, your information on duals, quality and output swung me after looking at various makes. I have a denon avr-x2500h, Q Accoustics 3090 centre, 3020 as surround, 3050 floor standers, Eltax atmos upfiring speakers and now dual svs pb1000. My room is 12x 21 with opening to stairs and dining room. My house shakes and if I open the porch door the front door flexes quite a bit. Kudos is all down to your channel and would have bought direct via your link but I'm in the UK. The quality of these subs to dig deep, clarity and listening experience is amazing. Thanks.
I have been following you since your pre-affiliate days and I am just going to come out and say it- The dogs, the subs, the RV...I am really jealous of your life, man.🙂
You nailed it on your observation, I just got a pair of PB-2000 pro after owning the SB3000 for several years. I know what you mean about them being "DEEP", I have heard bass notes I haven't heard in years while running sealed for last 3-4 years. Lot more impact, sound even better for music than I thought they would being ported. Much better for movies by long way. But even as good as they are, I'm returning them and ordered pair of PB-3000 for that extra headroom and impact. Your video was what finally convinced me to go with PB-3000 over PB-2000 pro.
Still breaking mine in but have to be courteous to my apartment neighbors. Tried using the bass containment but agree with you as for how much it defeats the sub. Awesome review and glad you have found your happy medium!
Subwoofer 101 I just brought 2 from SVS myself one 2 weeks ago and the one that was deliver today from SVS; just one is crazy incredible so I have to hear now with 2 like you.
John Crenshaw Which did you get? I have 2 sb 1000’s in my 10x10 room! Svs ftw! They have awesome subs. I heard a demo Of 2 sb 16 ultra’s in a store a While back and was completly blown away. Can’t imagine how deep their proted subs must sound.
Thanks, just ordered a pair of pb 3000 last night. I'm chomping at the bit now for the. To arrive. I have never personally heard any svs. I'm moving up from dual Bic America f-12s.
❤ you are awesome bro. I got the sb16 ultra.. but I am having probably.. the same issues with it as you. I find it uncomfortable to listen to in longer periods of time, so I find myself switching it off. So the pb3000, yup. It's go time. 🥳
Yes, you get a 6 dB gain or so, which adds to the headroom, but more importantly, it reduces the standing wave effect, making it so you can hear ALL of the bass. If you listen to a frequency sweep, with *any* single, as the bass goes deeper, you will hear it get louder and quieter as the frequency changes. The bass just goes in and out. Not even at all. With matching ported dual deep bass subwoofers, you hear the bass evenly, getting louder as you go deeper, as low as you can hear. Definitely a departure from the norm, most subwoofers get quieter as they go deeper, falling off pretty hard, giving you a "shallow" sound. In your situation, absolutely I would choose dual PB-3000's, over a single PB 16 Ultra. I did exactly that, I turned off the PB 16 Ultras in favor of dual PB-2000 originals. When I finally received the second PB 16 Ultra, THAT is when I finally understood how awesome they are. The PB 3000's are in the same ballpark, but easier to move around, less expensive, and the kick is insane. My first living room was 24x24, and I had gobs of headroom left. If you follow my affiliate link, I would appreciate it, and then doing all of my bass hacks to get the most out of them. Crossover hack, distance hack, adjusting subs by ear, and the SVS App Hack. You'll want your gain in the -13 to -16 range on the subs. I'm running these currently and they are epic. They will get a little more potent and louder as they break in, so you might need to turn them down by a dB or so once that happens. Let me know how it goes!
For some reason I have to turn my volume up on my speakers to make the volume on the sub go loud, I can’t find anything amp or devices that I can buy that would allow me to separate the sub and the speakers into two volume channels
I'd say definitely. Prioritize dual matching subwoofers. Rather than 1 PB-3000, dual PB-2000 Pro's would be better overall. That said, dual PB-3000's are my favorite subwoofers all around. Only dual PB-16 Ultras outshine them audibly, at a cost, size, and weight premium. The difference in technology for subwoofers in recent years is substantial. Definitely a deeper sound. I'm an affiliate, so if you follow my link in the video description, I could potentially see a commission, but my recommendation would be the same regardless. Once you have them, my Bass Hack Video Series will help you get the most out of them. Particularly the crossover hack, distance hack, gain hack, and dialing in subwoofers by ear. The difference, especially after following my hack recommendations, should be nothing short undeniable and substantial.
The room size is less important than most people think. I've run those subs in a 24x24 living room, and in the motorhome. They did amazingly in both scenarios, so you're golden. Follow my Bass Hack Video Series, especially the Crossover Hack, the Gain Hack, Distance Hack, adjusting subwoofers by ear, and you will get more performance than you would if you went "by the book". The only thing I would recommend specifically is textiles textiles textiles. Throw rug, curtains even if you don't have windows, anything fabric to reduce the sound reflections. Concrete produces a lot of echoes and ringing. You'll want to minimize that, but that's completely independent of subwoofer recommendation, it's something you'll want to do regardless. With dual PB-3000's, configured the way I recommend, you should be REALLY happy. Make sure that you're getting full lossless audio from your Blu-ray player (Dolby Atmos Hack), then play "The Accountant", and the shootout in the driveway toward the end of the movie will show you exactly why those subs are one of my favorites. If you follow my SVS affiliate link in the video description before you order them, I'd appreciate it, but no biggie if you can't. The only subs I like better are the PB-16 Ultras, but the difference in cost, size, and definitely weight, the PB-3000 gets really close to that level of performance and explosiveness, for quite a bit less. For example, in my living room now, the PB-3000's would be my choice, but only because of the size and weight of the PB-16 Ultras. Oddly, the fireplace makes anything "large" look out of place. I could've also shoehorned the PB-16 Ultras into the motorhome like I did with the PB-4000's, but it really got in the way of the walkway. Sounded awesome, but not sustainable. The PB-3000's were epic, and they fit a LOT better. I ended up going with the PB-2000 Pro's, simply because it made sense to be on their side, and have a flat grill. It's also more attainable, and I think that's better for demos. So each sub has certain use cases, but the PB-3000's are my favorite "premium" subs, because what they deliver with the size and cost is just crazy good, and it has a lot to do with the split wound voice coil. Sorry, kind of went down the rabbit hole there... But to answer your question, yes dual PB-3000's will work out quite well in your room.
Room size is not really an issue, it's the standing wave effect. No matter what, with a single subwoofer, you're missing a lot of low end due to dead spots. Duals correct this, and sound better for a number of reasons. Dual PB-2000 Pro's all day, and I LOVE the PB-3000, but you can trade up to a pair of those within a year, if you go factory direct. My affiliate links in the video description are factory direct, and I can earn a commission if you follow them before purchasing, but only if you're in the USA. If you are out of the country, 1 year trade up doesn't usually apply unless specifically stated where you are buying. I would choose dual PB-2000 Pro's over a single PB-16 Ultra, which I did because I only had 1 PB-16 Ultra at first. I shut the PB-16 Ultra off and kept the dual PB-2000's until I was able to have matching PB-16 Ultras. Duals make THAT big of a difference. And mixing the 3 made it worse. Matching is important.
Going deep and sounding deep is negated if you EQ flat flat right?. I also apply a house curve low shelf filter so all of mine have a gradual boost from 80Hz downward.
No way, I thought it was just me with sealed subs where the pressure messes up my hearing! I have an SB13 Ultra and a PB13 Ultra. Before I bought the PB, the SB was used as dual with a BIC f12 just because I already had it. If I'd turn up the volume, my ears would start to feel like I was on an airplane. Lol I thought something was wrong with my brain! Now in the living room I have the PB & SB (I know its not ideal to mix but I got the subs for a good price), the PB absolutely SLAMS and I don't have that weird ear thing anymore! Im about to start building 2 GSG Martycubes with 18" Ultimax subs. The cubes are vented so Im not really worried about the ear thing but I seriously hope it doesn't happen again lol
Hi not sure if your familiar with the polk audio psw 505 that's what I have now. Just ordered a pb3000 will there be a big difference in bass? I am planning on going duels with pb3000
Yes, if you don't notice the difference, I have no business running this channel!! It will be deeper, and more kick. Because of how room correction adjusts deep bass subwoofers, you're going to want to run more gain than room correction would suggest. You'll want to go through my Bass hack series, so you can optimize everything. Mixing subs is not optimal, and while you'll hear quite a difference between the subs, you won't be able to truly hear everything that the PB-3000 is capable of until you have two of them. I went through the same thing mixing and matching with the PB-16 Ultra. Honestly, I was relatively underwhelmed until the second one came in. When I had two of them, and no other subwoofer in the mix, it's the best bass I've ever heard. The PB-3000's/PB-4000's are nearly identical in explosiveness, which makes the PB-3000 a pretty awesome subwoofer. The only subwoofer I've heard that clearly outperforms it is the PB-16 Ultra. You can run them both together, and it will be better than a single, but it's handicapping the PB-3000. Once you get the second one, you'll see what I mean. Quite a step up.
If you are a Audiophile the SB 3000 without ur question is more spot n Accurate Bass for Music. Being sealed it is sealed it is a bit quicker , for movies for sure the ported, and btw the ported 3000 Is still verygood for music ,better then most.
Hi, your reviews are great & knowledgeable for others. Since you have heard the SB 3000 & PB 2000. How would you pit them against each other for music. Does the PB 2000 lag far behind the SB 3000 or is the difference marginal. For movies I am sure the PB 2000 will have the advantage since it is ported.
Finally got the second pb-3000! Any advice on setting up would be greatly appreciated. The issue is that my denon receiver forces me to lower the volume on the subs almost completely down in order to use the automatic calibration. Wondering how you get around this and how much higher you crank the db’s beyond what the calibration tells you?
I have been wanting to upgrade my PB-2000 for some time now, and had been waiting (and frankly holding out) for the PB-3000 to come out to exercise my upgrade option. Since I still feel that the pricing missed the mark, I opted to sell instead, and went with the HSU VTF-15H MK2. I really enjoy your channel, and would love to see you able to get some affiliations or review deals set up with other brands, as I feel it's mostly become an SVS channel now (understandable from a cost standpoint). It'd really be great if you were able to check out, review, measure, and compare some models from HSU, PSA, RSL, or Rythmik in addition to the SVS line. I love the SVS products, and the sound, build quality, and customer service are all top notch, but I feel it now comes with too high of a premium (or in this case, retail location markup)... and I just couldn't bring myself to overpay (just my opinion) out of a sense of brand loyalty. It's good to know that brand loyalists will still be getting an awesome product though. Keep up the good content! P.S. that RV is AWESOME!!! lol
@@flashhog01 my VTF-15H MK2 is in a totally different league than my PB-2000 was. The output is higher at every frequency and it plays lower. It's a huge box though for sure lol. The CEA 2010 output numbers are actually closer to the PB-4000 than they are the PB-2000. I am very glad that I made the swap.
I actually did the same thing nearly I had dual pb12-nsd that I got on black Friday 2 years ago and have had sb12-nsd and a pb1000 they were great subs and 2 of them for 1000 was a incredible deal but I wanted more and was going to get the pb3000 but I felt the price missed the mark yhat being said I love svs and the company and the customer service is the best I've ever dealt with . I also got the hsu-vtf 15h mk2 and the output was substantial its has more clean output and goes lower than my duals I have had it for a little over a week but my obsessive what if attitude made me also pull the trigger on the pb3000 to see the difference before I get a second hsu the svs should be hear in a little over a week
@@dayonerecoverdub3626 I hope it is at least as good as the HSU given how much more it costs! Definitely comment back with your findings, I'm curious how it performs. If you have access to a meter, that would be really great to see...
@@robscorner7012 I will try and do a video on them to just voice what my opinion on how they perform in my room and then see if I can figure out REW after that
I just wish they had the piano gloss finish. I been debating between these and the pb4000 . I can’t really afford dual 4000’s right away. I also built the box and my wife’s look was priceless. So dual pb3000 ‘s it is .Thanks so much for the review.
Awesome video again. I have to agree that Duals are basically a MUST. If anyone is serious about serious audio lol, then duals are a must. Single is just not going to cut it.
I have listened to the svs 3000 and I agree, very good! Today I got Arendal 1961 1s and 2 XTZ 10.17 edge and the are all great. Arendal for music. But the svs are amazing. Good time to be a bas head🙂👍🏻👊🏻🇸🇪
remember MOST people plug these into a shared 15amp circuit (15amp x 120 volts = 1800 watts) so when you add a sub that has a 1000+ watt amplifier that is sharing with your TV (say taking 2 or 3 amps), your receiver (taking 2 or 3 amps realistically if using the 80hz crossover), your other accessories (2 amps), your lighting, (1 - 2 amps) So in other words. A regular 15 amp circuit wont power all of our big toys. Having at least 2 dedicated 20 amp circuits is ideal to let these subwoofers really play. That is why some of these "smaller" subs really keep up with the bigger ones. The bigger subs are getting starved for power
Ah, the magic of Class D amplification and strong capacitance! The RV Project allows me to test this very theory. 15 amp, 20 amp, 30 amp, and 50 amp power connections make zero difference. 2,000 watts to nearly 10,000 available watts, no change. I could comfortably drive dual PB 16 Ultras on a 10 amp circuit. That amp can also compensate for low voltages. It's pretty impressive. To be clear, I was absolutely concerned about the this as well, so I'm not picking on you. Very efficient amps, thankfully!
@@Subwoofer101 Honestly you are not correct by saying power connections (I assume you mean the amperage/power available) make zero difference. Yes a Class D amp is efficient and yes some capacitance built into the amp will help with the large bass peaks. How do you think the amp "compensates" for low voltages??? It does this by less power output of course. Power (watts) = amp x volts For sustained max performance, you have to have the power available to sustain the output. Many other electronics do not have any capacitance so they will pull the power no matter what. You can't ignore simple physics You should buy a "kill a watt" meter to see how much power the subs, or anything are really taking.
I have a Kill O Watt meter. Did you think I was pulling it out of my nethers? My Denon X6200, 65" LED 4K TV, dual PB-16 Ultras, and the LED lights behind the TV easily consumed LESS than 500 watts *combined*, while bumping at a pretty good volume, according to the meter. All in all, a pretty efficient setup. My 42 inch plasma TV, in STARK contrast, consumes over 250 watts all by itself! Pretty lousy. I'm aware of this because I'm sizing a solar system for the RV, so I'm aware of voltage/amperage/wattage relationships, as well of the limitations of my flooded lead acid batteries, the losses during conversion to AC, losses from higher consumption, heat and cold, wire size limitations, c ratings, and the importance of Pure Sine AC power as opposed to modified sine. I'm not an electrician, but I'm not going to be fooled into looking for a bucket of ohms anytime soon either. In referring to the amp connections, I'm talking about different power supplies for the RV. Plugged into a shared 15 amp power outlet, then a dedicated and shared 20, then a dedicated 30, and all the way to a dedicated 50 amp power outlet (basically dual 50 amp 120 volt circuits), there is no appreciable/audible difference with the amount of power available with the X6200 and dual PB-3000's. With the system bumping at a serious level, there was easily less than a 1 volt drop according to the meter, when plugged into a shared 20 amp circuit, which also runs our coffee pot, lights, ice maker, and refrigerator in the house. Voltage drop had less to do with the theater than it did with other appliances in use, and the cord length. I won't run at a voltage under 114. Normally 118 in that case. I can, however, run both 15,000 btu air conditioners, a dehumidifier, microwave, coffee maker, my home theater, and still have my wife use her blow dryer on a 50 amp plug. Basically 10,000-12,000 available watts, give or take. It's a 50 amp, 240 volt plug, split to 120 volts. We did this just to see if we could trip a breaker. No luck doing so. With everything else off, and a MASSIVE 10,000+ watts available to run just the home theater alone, there is no audible difference running dual PB-3000's, the Denon, and TV versus a shared 15 amp plug, assuming the same voltage at the surge protector plug that powers the theater. I'm not ignoring physics. If you have a Class A 1,500 watt amp with no capacitance, then yes, you are absolutely correct, you need to consider dedicated circuits. You basically have a space heater that also happens to power your speakers. For the SVS Class D amps, with enough capacitance to keep playing a while (3-15 seconds) when unplugged, and so long as you aren't seeing significant voltage sag from other loads or otherwise, no need for a dedicated circuit, in my experience with these subs. But of course, consult an electrician, and maybe even your doctor just to be safe... =)
@@Subwoofer101 Spot on, I just had to dig a little and you provided great info! And yes like you say just because a sub or any audio amplifier says (X) watt output does not mean it actually does that and if so normally for a very short amount of time. I have a Sunfire HRS12 (1000 watt amp) and when playing it very loud, the meter rarely shows over 400 watts. I also have a 50inch Samsung plasma from 2008 that I got on sale for $1,800!!!Haha Talk about a space heater. That think sucks 500watts no matter what. Not our main TV anymore but the picture is great. Anyway, I appreciate your replies and you have a great knowledge. Enjoy the system!
Thanks! Yeah 2009 is about when I bought my 42" heater/TV. The 65" LED draws around 100 watts or so, if I recall correctly. Much cooler too. The Denon is easily the warmest device in the mix now.
What level are you running on the sub? I have a single pb3000 that rattles the dishes on the other end of the room so I’m wondering how much I’d really benefit from a second pb3000.
Normally, I want to see them (or it) work, but you're so passionate about some facts, that I wanted to hear more. Kudos ! And I saw a great deal on a new SB-13 ultra to replace my SB-2000. Now I am thinking about a second SB-2000, or two SB-3000 subs. What luxury we live in !
I'll let you know how the SVS SB-3000 sound, getting a pair today... My first foray into a sealed sub of this size. Upgrading from a pair of PB-1000 subs... Mainly use mine for music, then movies. Running the SVS Ultra bookshelf speakers and center.
The best sub that ive experienced were 4 dayton ultimax on 1 k each, in a marty setup, that setup just blew me away. It was awesome, maybe next time review the dayton 15 " ultimax sealed pack, very easy to assamble ( just glue). Btw nice review, like always :)
Great video...very informative.....this is the first time I heard it explained clearly about the difference with ported and sealed subwoofers.... I prefer ported over the sealed...as you said going deep vs sounding deep is on point... maybe for spl the pressure created by a sealed box may work better....
Thanks for such an excellent in-depth review Ryan. This sealed the deal for me. I purchased dual PB-3000's through your affiliate link this evening. It would be great if in the future you could work with some other brand's and do some comparisons to what you have reviewed so far. (Not a complaint, just a kind request. :-) Keep up the great work. Thank you for all your time and hard work in putting these videos and website articles together.
Thanks! I have heard several others, flagships too. SVS has the type of depth I look for. It really is different, you'll see what I mean. I'm not opposed to other brands, but they have to fit what I look for, or it might just seem like a hit piece. Kind of painted myself in a corner. I plan to get another brand of subs soon though. Try to get the level up to -18 or so on the PB-3000's, they kick serious butt. Check out the Distance Hack and the Crossover Hack, it will maximize the bass even further. The Bass Hack series is pretty useful. Whole different ball game now, I'm curious to see what you think. Thanks for your support!!
@@Subwoofer101 Thanks for your reply. I know what you mean about painting yourself into a corner with possible reviews of other brands. I know you really favor SVS because of how it not only goes deep, but "sounds deep" as well. I plan to use the distance hack. And I will study your bass hack series like I'm back in college! Thanks again R!
@@Subwoofer101 Hey so i just got the Pb3000, after calibrating at -10 (as per movie preset on the app) it set my avr to -3.0. (Pioneer avr). Anything above 10 db on the app it sounds like its not even there. when I set it to -30 or even -20 it says it cant detect subwoofer as its too quiet. The subwoofer is near field and about 2 feet away to my right.
Ported vs Sealed vs sealed with radiators vs 4 order bandpass box I've heard them all. All can be very good it breaks down to personal preference. My ears tend to love subs with radiators and 4th order bandpass.
Nice video.I have my 2 PB 13 Ultra's that I purchased in the summer of 2016. I went home back to the States to visit my parents and by the time I came back to Europe. SVS sent me an email about the PB 16 Ultra that had just dropped! They wanted to know if I wanted to do a trade in? The only problem is that the PB 16 cost 3500 euro each in Germany???!!!! No thanks I said,I'll keep my PB 13 Ultra's!!! I'm happy with my purchase!
Updated price for the PB16s in EU is actually 3750,- Euro PER PCS...way too expensive compared to the US price. At this level I do not think they sell them at all over here. I would like 2 but waaay to expensive.
Have you still got your pb13 ultras? Have you upgraded to the latest sledge amp the 1200? I've got one with bash amp but looking at upgrading the amp and getting a second pb13.
@@abs6764 Yeah,I still have'em. I have to get around to upgrading the amps. I've been busy building bicycles? I have lots of hobbies. I need to do a fresh rebuild on my computer too? If you can get your hands on a graphics card?
Great review. I'll bet the reason the PB-3000 feels like it's "punching above its weight" is actually DUE to its incredible mid-bass performance, Ed Mullen from SVS posted on AVS recently that while the PB-3000 has about 3dB more output than the PB-2000 at 20Hz, which would put it right between the PB-2000 and PB-4000, he said it has (quoting Ed) " a bunch more than that in the 40-80 Hz octave - I was shocked (and I'm jaded and hard to impress) at the output of the PB-3000 during CEA-2010 testing against the PB-2000. That new driver has a low moving mass and is very efficient and the BL curve looks great from the split-wind coil and associated motor changes." This could account for your "chest massage" and "impact" comment, as I tend to associate those terms with the "chest slam" you get from the midbass frequencies (~ 50 -120Hz range).My SubMersives have this in spades too. I think SVS hit it outta the park with this one!
Well that's unexpected! I would expect that to be a timing/phase issue. Side by side, same guts, a ported should be easier on the ears. Also could be the individual subs, typical subs are often too strong around 50-75 hertz, which can also be painful. Which subs are we talking about, both ported and sealed?
Thanks for the comment, I had the SVS pb-1000 and found it slow and somewhat bloated in my room. I moved it about the room and saw no improvement. Then upgraded to the SVS sb-2000 and find it great for movies but not for 2ch listening.
I want subs that sound like a live venue with as much or more output in the 50-60hz range than most subs now are best in the best in the lower ranges for movies I listen to music 90% of time and looking more for crazy output in the 50-60 range. Just not into that low end bass. My room is huge like 600+ SF
this the best review i saw on the svs line of subs. 👍 after much debate i finally bought one should be here tomorrow. i was still second guessing my decision until this review . yes duels rule i will get another one later. 👍🍻
I have and still use my REL Q400E sealed subwoofer. After many years of use it still packs a punch with plenty of low end thump. I know it's outdated now but I still like the sound it using the avr passover. If anyone has had simular it would be nice to know
The PB-3000 isn't priced right. For instance if you look at the 2000 series the SB is $700 and the PB is $800, so 14.3% more for the PB. For the 4000 series the PB is 26.7% more and for the 16 Ultra the PB is 25% more. When you do the math for the 3000 series the PB is 40% more, WOW! The PB should have been between $1,150 to $1,300.
Very helpful video. If your room is very large, 4500 to 5000 cubit feet, would it make sense to get the dual PB-4000 vs the PB-3000 or is the PB-3000 still all that is needed?
I own a pair of these babies and I love them. Truth is, I really like the look of the pb 4000's. but as you mentioned , they are very closely matched. so, I see no reason to upgrade. However I would like to feel what it feels to listen to the pb 16 ultra's
Why not the SB3000? I know nothing... and trying to figure out what I want. I'm older 63, don't like to rattle the house...mid size room in oval shape. Matching with sony str az5000es, klipsch 8000ii, mostly home theater...like clean sounds...have hard time with understanding voices in movies, and music.
Great review, I've got a single pb13 ultra bash amp which I'm looking at replacing with the sledge amp in the 4000. I was looking at getting another pb13 with a sledge amp. Would this be better for me over dual 3000s? Thanks
I have one PC13-Ultra but cant afford to get another one due to space constraints. Will having 2x SB2000 or SB3000 be better for me if i do 90% movies / 10% music? Our bedroom is 14sqm/150sqft. (note: I can't move subs around, very tight space).
Are dual "PC-2000 Pro" an option? Same price as dual SB-3000, but I imagine better for movies. They just released it on Tuesday. Looking really good. Has the App, new driver, and same amp tech from the PB-16 Ultras, just lower wattage. If you meant 1 vs 2, always 2. Dual SB-2000 Pro instead of a single SB-3000.
I own dual pb3000's and they really are real good! I would recommend because they are so very similar and close to the 4,000 saving $1,000 in buying dual 3000's instead
running duals has been a revelation; I was on a much much lower budget, but for a small bedroom the dual pb1000's do great. I also noticed a HUGE improvement by raising them up off the floor using some basic nesting tables (you can get a set of three on amazon for $100)
Yes they will, easy. Be sure to follow my bass hacks to get the most out of them. Gain hack, crossover hack, distance hack, adjusting subs by ear, SVS App Hack, etc... You could get PB-16 Ultras, and by simply not optimizing them, a pair of PB-1000 Pro's would outperform them just by being optimized. I'm running the PB-3000s now, and I have a lot of headroom left. One of my favorite subs.
Jason tradinghigh I bought them on sale last year on that Amazon sale and couldn’t be happier. They aren’t the best sounding speakers I have heard, but they are the best sounding speakers in that price range, by far.
Hi by chance would you review Arendal 1961 and 1723? I found the on RUclips looking at the SVS PB 3000 or the Arendal 1723. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this
Here’s a question for ya, dual sb4000s OR dual pb3000s? Only a $200 price difference, I’m leaning toward the 4000s, but I’m just not sure if they will get low like I want. Tough call. I’m mostly movies 70/30 to music. Thanks if you even see this! Lol.
@@8000860 yeah I'm not sure what is the problem. Swapped out subwoofer cables, still barely makes any sound. Idk if the internal Amp is the issue or not
@@RomanEmpireRSVR Many people have issues with them. Yeah, with amp. They say, that resistor is mounted way too close to PCB surface and the heat essentially melts the caps around it. I like 115 visually much more, than SPL-150, but I'm afraid to buy it because of that issue.
A great in depth review. I really get a sense of the sound listening to this. But again, this channel needs to be changed to 'SVS SUBWOOFERS 101'. Since we started to hear...over and over ....that you're the worlds first svs affiliate (and that's great no offence), that's what's covered, that alone with a couple sentence fragments here and there noting another brand. I love SVS, own 3 of their subs...but this is now an SVS channel. If they're not paying you a lot, this is a lot in free adverts for them. They likely wouldn't want you to make the branding so obvious in the title...maybe that's why
Any time I review an SVS product, I disclose the affiliation, both as a courtesy to my audience and to comply with the law. Not everyone does that. I get compensation when people follow my links and place an order, but that's the only time, and none of my reviews, SVS or otherwise, are "paid" or directed in any fashion. Nor would I want that. I make the videos that I want to make, and I don't make videos that I don't believe in. Nor do I promote every SVS product. I could really boost my commissions by promoting sealed subs, SVS sealed outsells ported 2-1. I could potentially double my commissions. Yet I don't. I have a sound that I prefer, and this sub embodies that sound perfectly. If it was another brand giving me this type of performance, I would be just as excited about it. Most manufacturers have different priorities though. If I were to beat them up on video for not delivering the performance I personally look for, that would be seen as bias too. Either way, people will make their assumptions. I asked SVS to start an affiliate program because they had the sound I was looking for with their ported subs. I have other brands on the list, but I do prefer SVS the most so far, for a number of definible, measurable reasons. One thing I won't do is be artificially excited about other brands or products for the sake of appearances. That's just as bad, in my opinion.
Usually 90-120 hz depending on the speaker. Always set to Small, tower speakers 90 hz, satellite/elevations 120 hz. Still getting response to the speaker under the crossover point, but it's a hard cutoff for the subs, and I believe in feeding my subs as much as possible. 90 hertz is always a minimum for me, unless I'm trying to trim bass in a very specific way. Always set the crossover for the highest value, effectively disabling the crossover on the sub itself, aka high pass filter off.
Love the channel, how low with room gain in a normal room (not motor home) can dual pb-3000's go according to measurements? I'd like to get down to 13hz, do you think a dual pb-3000 setup will get me there?
I bought a dual SVS BP 2000’s I was trying to by them through you but the SVS app won’t allow me considerably they’re out! So i bought them from world wide stereo.. The next day I mean the next day you posted a video for PB 2000 pro really!
Awesome video, I was actually thinking about getting one pb16 ultra and maybe later on getting another. But damn.... Is dual pb3000's really that good that you'd recommend it over a pb16 ultra? That's some crazy performance...my jaw is on the floor lol. I guess I'll get two pb-3000's and if I want more just get two more lol. I'm still kinda craving the feeling of owning the pb16 ultra though.... That thing is just legendary Imo.
I'll NEVER go back to ported subs. My sealed car and home subs sound much better., IMO...The 16 ultra should be only for large rooms. They can overwhelm small and medium rooms, and that doesn't sound good. Ported subs are just not good for me in a small or medium room. They lack musical quality as I said.
In practice, are these SVS subs hard on your home's electrical circuits? I'm assuming the 16 Ultra is a different story, but the 1000 - 4000 line, can these be plugged into the wall like normal without expecting lights to flicker?
ALL of them are extremely efficient. Class D amplification is impressive. Even the PB-16 Ultra consumes less power over time than my TV. There is good capacitance, meaning the power is stored, unlike Class A amplifiers, where they consume a lot more power constantly. I've seen people install individual circuits for PB-16 Ultras, but in my opinion, it's completely unnecessary. The nature of sound is impulsive. So it's not a constant draw like an air conditioner would be. The SVS amplifiers are also like power conditioners, with the ability to run on lower voltage (weaker) circuits. I've had to build a sophisticated power system for the home theater in the motorhome, so I'm intimately familiar with the amount of power consumed. The ENTIRE theater setup, including 65" TV, Denon AVR, Fire Stick, Blu Ray player, and 2 PB-2000 Pro's, all running together consume between 200 and 450 watts in total, and when it gets close to 350 watts, things are *REALLY* rocking. It's pretty crazy how efficient they are, especially for the energy they put into the room.
@@Subwoofer101 Appreciate the detailed response, helps a lot! I came across your channel while I was researching the benefits of 2 subwoofers vs 1. Now you've also peaked my interest in the SVS product line.
SVS subs are game changers. The most important thing I can say about them is to turn them up. When your AVR has you set the level for your subwoofers, it always sets them too low. Most AVRs are flawed, in that they're just looking for the peak decibel output, but on an SVS subwoofer, that peak output is always much lower in frequency than the vast majority of subwoofers. That's where my bass hack series, and my Top 16 AVR settings really make a difference. Glad you found the channel!
Dear content creator. I've followed your channel for a while now. I love the deep dives you do about subwoofer sound. I'm in dyer need of your input. I already have an SVS SUB (SB 13 ULTRA) I want to go duals and after listening to your review I want to add the PB-3000, but I've heard that is not good to mix SB with PB what would you recommend. My concern is that if go with another SB 3000 would I be missing anything? Vs the PB 3000. Thank you in advance.
@@Subwoofer101thank you, this is really helpful. I followed your advise to put the levels all the way down on avr for the subs and tune it on the subs. Still confused on what the crossover for this subs
@SirChiefUK I disable the crossover on the subwoofer itself, and let the AVR handle everything. I'm glad you enjoy your equipment more after using my tips! Love to hear it.
I have a pair of MK 350 THX certified subs for the past 14 years They blew the PB-2000s away on all aspects. Something went wrong on the amp. Being that old plus MK went out of business, The new take over is not even in thin country! I bought two PB -2000 and just swap out for dual PB 3000s, Let you know what i think of them.
One issue people can have is the deep sound of the SVS subs don't put out the same relative midbass as every other sub does at the same dial position. The simple solution is to match the levels of your previous sub in the 50-80 hertz range, which should result in a lot more bottom end response, while still delivering the same midbass performance you're used to. Being really loud in the midbass and quiet in the deep bass is something I consider a flaw. SVS subs are ruler flat, which means that with room gain, they get a little louder as they go deeper. A very satisfying sound in my opinion. Basically, turn up the SVS subs a little more than you would with the previous subs. You can also use the PEQ function in the SVS app to shape the curve to your liking with the PB-3000's.
I tell you this: I started with a single PB-2000 which I was more then satisfied with. I was planning on going dual but decided to try the PB-3000 due to reviews. I pulled the trigger. Just got the 3000 on Thursday. After dialing it in I couldn’t believe what a difference from the 2000. To me, the new 3000 not only has way more impact but a smoother response. The 2000 was to “boomy” (not as precise) I had my mind set to send the 3000 back and keep my 2000 and possibly going dual. I packaged the 3000 and swapped to my 2000. After dialing it in... I’m KEEPING the 3000. I’m sold. I can’t fathom how 2 PB-3000’s would be! 1 is Awesome but eventually I will go dual. If you have any doubt jumping from the PB-2000 to the 3000, in my opinion, worth it.
Right on! I think the boomy sensation you got from your single PB-2000 would be pretty much resolved if you had two of them. Still one of my favorite subs. Two PB-2000's would sound better than a single PB-3000, but dual PB-3000's are undeniably better than dual PB-2000's. You can try mixing the PB-2000 and PB-3000, just keep in mind that it won't be as good as two PB-3000's. The bass won't be as "perfect", and probably sound more like dual PB-2000's than dual PB-3000's, but should still be better than a single. It's a weird thing, but until I had dual PB-16 Ultras, I didn't really understand what they were actually capable of. See my upcoming video today for more explanation. And yes, dual PB-3000's are truly impressive! Very explosive, but still soft when the bass is soft. Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing!
Can you help me out with picking my AV receiver I want to go with Marantz 7012, with a emotiva, what do you thank, should I go sr8012, ED Mullen said i would be better to go with the 7012 only difffernce is IMAX for the 7013, but 8012 more wpc but on surrond would a 100 on the 7012 be fine tell me I am almost done with this project. Also going dolby atmost with 4 klish in the ceiling.
I want to upgrade my PB-2000 for a 3000. I chose that option over going to dual PB-2000 even if I might be wrong.. I hope the 3000 will fill the 4500 cubic room better with higher quality bass. I can't afford dual 3000, but I'm still unsureI If two PB-2000 will sound more satisfying than one 3000. In other words is the difference between 3000 and 2000 considerable enough to upgrade ...what a hard decision...
currently am on the market for a subwoofer.., and i want to get the PB-4000 but i like the new PB-3000 too.., any recomendations? maybe dual PB-3000 instead of the PB-4000
100%, absolutely dual PB-3000's over a single PB-4000. All day long, no question. If you are down to support the channel, and it's no trouble, please follow one of my SVS links in this video description. My links are factory direct, so you would have 1 year trade up. If you wanted to upgrade, I'd go straight to the PB 16 Ultras. Going from the PB-3000 to the PB-4000 is not dramatic. The PB 16 Ultras would be a worthwhile change. The PB-3000's are that good.
Right on! Report back after you've had some time with them. Definitely watch the Bass Hack series to get the most out of them. Thanks for your support!!
Fabio Zago I have dual sb 3000 running with my marantz sr6014, I have a quick question. Do u eq sub from svs app and then run audissey or just run audissey first and then use svs eq for further twiking? Thanks in advance.
@@mironyousuf2428 i only run audyssey from app , I saw no need to add more eq to the audy app or the svs app, as the end result was very pleasing. If you want to see the graphics, on my channel i have one video showing.
Great breakdown.. I'm sure you get asked this a lot. Is it always preferred to have two over one? I dont have a dedicated listening room yet so im concerned about space. Where the my music set up is...is between the living room and dining room...its a small space that gets a lot foot traffic. This is my first set up and I'm set on svs. I know you don't enjoy sealed subs but that's the route I want to try since this set up will be strictly for music. So...was looking at sp2000 pro. Would it be better to get two or one sp3000? Obviously budget is a factor :). Someone on another forum told me one sp2000 pro would sound great and may be all I need with the speakers and intergrated amp that im using (klipsh rp600m & iotavx sa3) but id hate to drop 800 on a sub only to be disappointed. So, just wondering your thoughts. Great video again!
What I do like is the app and all the features. It left me only with one question : while the 2000 series uses a knob to adjust the volume where these subs kicking arse is at 2 o clock. What setting is this for the new series on the volume? Standard its minus 10db. But i had to put it on -5db on the sb3000 to come alive on movies and shake the couch. But is this to loud? After 10 min on this volume i did smell the woofer a bit (when i was close to the woofer) i didnt hear any audible distortion though during the test
I'm going over to the dark side... Replacing my very nice pair of SVS PB-1000 subs... Ordered two SVS SB-3000 sealed subs on Monday night, they are on the FedEx truck right now, being delivered today... I finally got my system up and running to where I am satisfied, and the PB-1000 subs were blending in well, but they were just not cutting it with the music I like to listen to... Hence, the SVS SB-3000. SVS is buying back my PB-1000 subs, too hard to pass up this hopefully good upgrade. Oh, I will call SVS this morning and make sure they give you credit for the sale. This is all your fault, so you should get credit. ;-) On edit: I'm going sealed vs ported as the bulk of my use is music, two channel... It was a tough call, but decided the sealed would be a better option for the intended use. We shall see... I have year with these if I decide to up or side grade.
Just upgraded from 3 PB 1000’s to dual PB 3000’s a week ago. After dialing them in with my mini dsp all I can say is wow!!! Potent is the perfect word to describe these. The 1000’s were great but these are in a different category. Thanks for your thorough review and information on these.
I'm sitting here debating PB 200 vs PB 3000......you just convinced me. Now I'm anxiously awaiting the delivery of a PB 3000. Thanks
How does the one sound? I would love to go dual but price is out of my reach.
How did you like it?
Wow we’re waiting for a response
Jerry what about Bose 10” sealed subwoofers? Me like
I absolutely love that this is your system in an RV, most can't compete with this set up at home
I have the ultra sb 3000 and it is a straight monster. better defined bass than 2 ported subs I had. It is breath taking literally
I just bought dual PB 3000's a few weeks ago.... I am still playing with them, but they are awesome, really awesome. The whole space is more than uniform in bass and they kick and never sound stressed. Deep and full sound. The app tipped me over on these and if you have the budget get them. App works great and easy to dial in from your listening position. I felt like they were more expensive than some alternatives, but the have the latest Technology! Customer service and Warranty.
I just ordered a pair of 3000's. Reviews like yours helped me make the call. I had just purchased the 2000 pro's and they were so awesome that I knew the 3000's would be what I need. The 2000's were meant to be a place holder since I couldn't afford what I wanted. Thing is they were so amazing that I realized I was closer than I thought and if I upgraded now I could have the sound I needed. First time I upgrade because something was awesome...lol. I always upgrade when something seems lacking, this time it was because something was so good, I got inspired to go higher. Great review, thanks for painting the picture of these. Can't wait til the 29th when mine arrive. I got the isolation feet too for them so that just kicked it over the top for me. Thanks again!!
I recently just made the same choice you recommended. I picked dual PB3000s over the PB16-Ultra. I agree that duals are just that important.
I just love SVS and the level of commitment to the industry and customer.
I might have to get the 3000s
I have a friend wanting to buy my PC2000s in my small setup.
No might! Do!
I just got the 3000s in a few days ago. Definitely enjoying them more and more each time I listen. Amazing punch for the money.
Great review, love the channel.
is it worth saving some money with going with SB3000 over the 4000 series?
@@JohnErikjohansson cheap ass
Just got my Dual PB-3000s today. Used the upgrade from my Dual PB-2000 Pros. The 2000 Pros were nice but the 3000s sound way better. Much deeper, less chuffing due to more power being delivered. Thanks again for your measured posts. You don’t post much but I look forward to your posts because they are substantive without fluff.
About ported vs sealed . Correct me if I'm wrong. According to the graphs you have included. They sound deeper because people can hear 30-20 Hz but can not hear < 15Hz even if they go deeper. However if sub has enough power, and moves enough air you can feel 11Hz.
Btw great review. :)
love the bouns dog content
:D
I hope to get one of these one day thanks for your review. Probably the most in depth review I have seen!
Thanks! These are special subs, they really are impressive.
I have no plans to buy these, but I enjoy your reviews! So far so good with the pair of lowly pb-1000's!!
Pair of sb 2000s here. Plenty for me. Shakes the house enough for me. More of a music guy so like my setup. I don't even turn them up because they would overpower my other speakers. Unless I got a dedicated amp with a pre amp receiver I wouldn't waste my money on the power I won't use. I would need a bigger room to justify spending more.
9.2 atmos. 2 subs, 2 towers, center, 4 elevation speakers and 2 bipolar speakers. Full svs speakers. Into it 4500 in speakers. Plenty for me.
I got a pb1000
10 inch 300 watt
SVS about 7 months ago ... It still blows me away.
The bass is so refined and tight
With a PUNCH ! only half way turn up.
Only 500 bucks
Seems like a lot of money to me at first but the quality and sound is JL w7 car bass levels
Blur vision
These subs NOT for kids who do not have some restrained....
You can SHAKE your house APART!
Double up, it's even more impressive! The PB-1000 is no light weight!!
Yea the 16 ultra, if it's an old house, can most likely make it collapse.
How big of room is urs in ?
I had the Dali e12f and two of them had issues with the cabinet. I lost faith in the product after rave reviews about the quality of the product and bad advice from their cs team (blown coil). I came to your page and watched your reviews, your information on duals, quality and output swung me after looking at various makes. I have a denon avr-x2500h, Q Accoustics 3090 centre, 3020 as surround, 3050 floor standers, Eltax atmos upfiring speakers and now dual svs pb1000. My room is 12x 21 with opening to stairs and dining room. My house shakes and if I open the porch door the front door flexes quite a bit. Kudos is all down to your channel and would have bought direct via your link but I'm in the UK. The quality of these subs to dig deep, clarity and listening experience is amazing. Thanks.
I love my SB2000. The base is strong even at low volumes. I’m planning to add an other. My system will be a 3.2.2.
I have been following you since your pre-affiliate days and I am just going to come out and say it- The dogs, the subs, the RV...I am really jealous of your life, man.🙂
You nailed it on your observation, I just got a pair of PB-2000 pro after owning the SB3000 for several years. I know what you mean about them being "DEEP", I have heard bass notes I haven't heard in years while running sealed for last 3-4 years. Lot more impact, sound even better for music than I thought they would being ported. Much better for movies by long way. But even as good as they are, I'm returning them and ordered pair of PB-3000 for that extra headroom and impact. Your video was what finally convinced me to go with PB-3000 over PB-2000 pro.
Still breaking mine in but have to be courteous to my apartment neighbors. Tried using the bass containment but agree with you as for how much it defeats the sub. Awesome review and glad you have found your happy medium!
Subwoofer 101 I just brought 2 from SVS myself one 2 weeks ago and the one that was deliver today from SVS; just one is crazy incredible so I have to hear now with 2 like you.
John Crenshaw Which did you get? I have 2 sb 1000’s in my 10x10 room! Svs ftw! They have awesome subs. I heard a demo Of 2 sb 16 ultra’s in a store a While back and was completly blown away. Can’t imagine how deep their proted subs must sound.
I'm curious also.
Thanks, just ordered a pair of pb 3000 last night. I'm chomping at the bit now for the. To arrive. I have never personally heard any svs. I'm moving up from dual Bic America f-12s.
❤ you are awesome bro. I got the sb16 ultra.. but I am having probably.. the same issues with it as you. I find it uncomfortable to listen to in longer periods of time, so I find myself switching it off. So the pb3000, yup. It's go time. 🥳
Hi would 2 pb3000 have more bass than one pb16 ultra in a 24x24 sq ft room?
Yes, you get a 6 dB gain or so, which adds to the headroom, but more importantly, it reduces the standing wave effect, making it so you can hear ALL of the bass.
If you listen to a frequency sweep, with *any* single, as the bass goes deeper, you will hear it get louder and quieter as the frequency changes. The bass just goes in and out. Not even at all.
With matching ported dual deep bass subwoofers, you hear the bass evenly, getting louder as you go deeper, as low as you can hear.
Definitely a departure from the norm, most subwoofers get quieter as they go deeper, falling off pretty hard, giving you a "shallow" sound.
In your situation, absolutely I would choose dual PB-3000's, over a single PB 16 Ultra. I did exactly that, I turned off the PB 16 Ultras in favor of dual PB-2000 originals.
When I finally received the second PB 16 Ultra, THAT is when I finally understood how awesome they are.
The PB 3000's are in the same ballpark, but easier to move around, less expensive, and the kick is insane.
My first living room was 24x24, and I had gobs of headroom left.
If you follow my affiliate link, I would appreciate it, and then doing all of my bass hacks to get the most out of them.
Crossover hack, distance hack, adjusting subs by ear, and the SVS App Hack.
You'll want your gain in the -13 to -16 range on the subs. I'm running these currently and they are epic. They will get a little more potent and louder as they break in, so you might need to turn them down by a dB or so once that happens.
Let me know how it goes!
For some reason I have to turn my volume up on my speakers to make the volume on the sub go loud, I can’t find anything amp or devices that I can buy that would allow me to separate the sub and the speakers into two volume channels
I was wanting a sub or two to go with my stereo system. I listen to a wide variety of music, these look amazing.
I have a paradigm Pw-2200. Been excellent to me for 22 years now. How better this svs can be? Worth upgrading?
I'd say definitely. Prioritize dual matching subwoofers.
Rather than 1 PB-3000, dual PB-2000 Pro's would be better overall.
That said, dual PB-3000's are my favorite subwoofers all around. Only dual PB-16 Ultras outshine them audibly, at a cost, size, and weight premium.
The difference in technology for subwoofers in recent years is substantial. Definitely a deeper sound.
I'm an affiliate, so if you follow my link in the video description, I could potentially see a commission, but my recommendation would be the same regardless.
Once you have them, my Bass Hack Video Series will help you get the most out of them.
Particularly the crossover hack, distance hack, gain hack, and dialing in subwoofers by ear.
The difference, especially after following my hack recommendations, should be nothing short undeniable and substantial.
Dual pb3000 in a 12ft x 16ft room size all concrete w/ an 8ft ceiling what are your thoughts is it good or bad
The room size is less important than most people think. I've run those subs in a 24x24 living room, and in the motorhome.
They did amazingly in both scenarios, so you're golden.
Follow my Bass Hack Video Series, especially the Crossover Hack, the Gain Hack, Distance Hack, adjusting subwoofers by ear, and you will get more performance than you would if you went "by the book".
The only thing I would recommend specifically is textiles textiles textiles.
Throw rug, curtains even if you don't have windows, anything fabric to reduce the sound reflections.
Concrete produces a lot of echoes and ringing.
You'll want to minimize that, but that's completely independent of subwoofer recommendation, it's something you'll want to do regardless.
With dual PB-3000's, configured the way I recommend, you should be REALLY happy.
Make sure that you're getting full lossless audio from your Blu-ray player (Dolby Atmos Hack), then play "The Accountant", and the shootout in the driveway toward the end of the movie will show you exactly why those subs are one of my favorites.
If you follow my SVS affiliate link in the video description before you order them, I'd appreciate it, but no biggie if you can't.
The only subs I like better are the PB-16 Ultras, but the difference in cost, size, and definitely weight, the PB-3000 gets really close to that level of performance and explosiveness, for quite a bit less.
For example, in my living room now, the PB-3000's would be my choice, but only because of the size and weight of the PB-16 Ultras. Oddly, the fireplace makes anything "large" look out of place.
I could've also shoehorned the PB-16 Ultras into the motorhome like I did with the PB-4000's, but it really got in the way of the walkway. Sounded awesome, but not sustainable. The PB-3000's were epic, and they fit a LOT better.
I ended up going with the PB-2000 Pro's, simply because it made sense to be on their side, and have a flat grill.
It's also more attainable, and I think that's better for demos.
So each sub has certain use cases, but the PB-3000's are my favorite "premium" subs, because what they deliver with the size and cost is just crazy good, and it has a lot to do with the split wound voice coil.
Sorry, kind of went down the rabbit hole there...
But to answer your question, yes dual PB-3000's will work out quite well in your room.
I have a single SB3000 and need more output in large space. Music80%/Movies 20%.
Should I get another SB3000 or single SB4000 or single SB16?
Can anyone answer if I should go dual pb2000 or single pb3000 in room 11x13 not sure if single will be enough
Room size is not really an issue, it's the standing wave effect.
No matter what, with a single subwoofer, you're missing a lot of low end due to dead spots.
Duals correct this, and sound better for a number of reasons.
Dual PB-2000 Pro's all day, and I LOVE the PB-3000, but you can trade up to a pair of those within a year, if you go factory direct.
My affiliate links in the video description are factory direct, and I can earn a commission if you follow them before purchasing, but only if you're in the USA.
If you are out of the country, 1 year trade up doesn't usually apply unless specifically stated where you are buying.
I would choose dual PB-2000 Pro's over a single PB-16 Ultra, which I did because I only had 1 PB-16 Ultra at first.
I shut the PB-16 Ultra off and kept the dual PB-2000's until I was able to have matching PB-16 Ultras.
Duals make THAT big of a difference. And mixing the 3 made it worse. Matching is important.
Going deep and sounding deep is negated if you EQ flat flat right?. I also apply a house curve low shelf filter so all of mine have a gradual boost from 80Hz downward.
No way, I thought it was just me with sealed subs where the pressure messes up my hearing! I have an SB13 Ultra and a PB13 Ultra. Before I bought the PB, the SB was used as dual with a BIC f12 just because I already had it. If I'd turn up the volume, my ears would start to feel like I was on an airplane. Lol I thought something was wrong with my brain! Now in the living room I have the PB & SB (I know its not ideal to mix but I got the subs for a good price), the PB absolutely SLAMS and I don't have that weird ear thing anymore! Im about to start building 2 GSG Martycubes with 18" Ultimax subs. The cubes are vented so Im not really worried about the ear thing but I seriously hope it doesn't happen again lol
Hi not sure if your familiar with the polk audio psw 505 that's what I have now. Just ordered a pb3000 will there be a big difference in bass? I am planning on going duels with pb3000
Yes, if you don't notice the difference, I have no business running this channel!!
It will be deeper, and more kick.
Because of how room correction adjusts deep bass subwoofers, you're going to want to run more gain than room correction would suggest.
You'll want to go through my Bass hack series, so you can optimize everything.
Mixing subs is not optimal, and while you'll hear quite a difference between the subs, you won't be able to truly hear everything that the PB-3000 is capable of until you have two of them. I went through the same thing mixing and matching with the PB-16 Ultra.
Honestly, I was relatively underwhelmed until the second one came in.
When I had two of them, and no other subwoofer in the mix, it's the best bass I've ever heard.
The PB-3000's/PB-4000's are nearly identical in explosiveness, which makes the PB-3000 a pretty awesome subwoofer.
The only subwoofer I've heard that clearly outperforms it is the PB-16 Ultra.
You can run them both together, and it will be better than a single, but it's handicapping the PB-3000.
Once you get the second one, you'll see what I mean. Quite a step up.
@@Subwoofer101 Thanks man
You had me convinced to buy dual PB-16s until this video. Now I’m back on the fence.
Now I’m on that fence with the 4000 and 3000....what did you decide on?
@@drewdempsey8324Got dual 3000’s
If you are a Audiophile the SB 3000 without ur question is more spot n Accurate Bass for Music.
Being sealed it is sealed it is a bit quicker , for movies for sure the ported, and btw the ported 3000
Is still verygood for music ,better then most.
you mean better THAN most
AN audiophile..
Better THAN*
First grade english..
Hi, your reviews are great & knowledgeable for others. Since you have heard the SB 3000 & PB 2000. How would you pit them against each other for music. Does the PB 2000 lag far behind the SB 3000 or is the difference marginal. For movies I am sure the PB 2000 will have the advantage since it is ported.
I just went dual PB 3000's upgraded from PB 1000 pro's. O.M.G.!!!!!!!! they are amazing!! Great Review!
Finally got the second pb-3000! Any advice on setting up would be greatly appreciated. The issue is that my denon receiver forces me to lower the volume on the subs almost completely down in order to use the automatic calibration. Wondering how you get around this and how much higher you crank the db’s beyond what the calibration tells you?
I have been wanting to upgrade my PB-2000 for some time now, and had been waiting (and frankly holding out) for the PB-3000 to come out to exercise my upgrade option. Since I still feel that the pricing missed the mark, I opted to sell instead, and went with the HSU VTF-15H MK2. I really enjoy your channel, and would love to see you able to get some affiliations or review deals set up with other brands, as I feel it's mostly become an SVS channel now (understandable from a cost standpoint). It'd really be great if you were able to check out, review, measure, and compare some models from HSU, PSA, RSL, or Rythmik in addition to the SVS line. I love the SVS products, and the sound, build quality, and customer service are all top notch, but I feel it now comes with too high of a premium (or in this case, retail location markup)... and I just couldn't bring myself to overpay (just my opinion) out of a sense of brand loyalty. It's good to know that brand loyalists will still be getting an awesome product though. Keep up the good content!
P.S. that RV is AWESOME!!! lol
How does the HSU VTF-15H compare to the SVS pb-2000? Glad you made the switch?
@@flashhog01 my VTF-15H MK2 is in a totally different league than my PB-2000 was. The output is higher at every frequency and it plays lower. It's a huge box though for sure lol. The CEA 2010 output numbers are actually closer to the PB-4000 than they are the PB-2000. I am very glad that I made the swap.
I actually did the same thing nearly I had dual pb12-nsd that I got on black Friday 2 years ago and have had sb12-nsd and a pb1000 they were great subs and 2 of them for 1000 was a incredible deal but I wanted more and was going to get the pb3000 but I felt the price missed the mark yhat being said I love svs and the company and the customer service is the best I've ever dealt with . I also got the hsu-vtf 15h mk2 and the output was substantial its has more clean output and goes lower than my duals I have had it for a little over a week but my obsessive what if attitude made me also pull the trigger on the pb3000 to see the difference before I get a second hsu the svs should be hear in a little over a week
@@dayonerecoverdub3626 I hope it is at least as good as the HSU given how much more it costs! Definitely comment back with your findings, I'm curious how it performs. If you have access to a meter, that would be really great to see...
@@robscorner7012 I will try and do a video on them to just voice what my opinion on how they perform in my room and then see if I can figure out REW after that
I just wish they had the piano gloss finish. I been debating between these and the pb4000 . I can’t really afford dual 4000’s right away. I also built the box and my wife’s look was priceless. So dual pb3000 ‘s it is .Thanks so much for the review.
Awesome video again. I have to agree that Duals are basically a MUST. If anyone is serious about serious audio lol, then duals are a must. Single is just not going to cut it.
I have listened to the svs 3000 and I agree, very good! Today I got Arendal 1961 1s and 2 XTZ 10.17 edge and the are all great. Arendal for music. But the svs are amazing. Good time to be a bas head🙂👍🏻👊🏻🇸🇪
Definitely a good time to be a bass head! 30 years ago? Not so much! 😅
Yeah, i have had some really wet and boomy pieces of shit subs back in the day... Today it almost doesent matter which one you choose. Almost.
I'm more of a sealed guy but how do you find the SB3000 for movies vs the PB?
remember MOST people plug these into a shared 15amp circuit (15amp x 120 volts = 1800 watts) so when you add a sub that has a 1000+ watt amplifier that is sharing with your TV (say taking 2 or 3 amps), your receiver (taking 2 or 3 amps realistically if using the 80hz crossover), your other accessories (2 amps), your lighting, (1 - 2 amps)
So in other words. A regular 15 amp circuit wont power all of our big toys. Having at least 2 dedicated 20 amp circuits is ideal to let these subwoofers really play. That is why some of these "smaller" subs really keep up with the bigger ones. The bigger subs are getting starved for power
Ah, the magic of Class D amplification and strong capacitance! The RV Project allows me to test this very theory. 15 amp, 20 amp, 30 amp, and 50 amp power connections make zero difference. 2,000 watts to nearly 10,000 available watts, no change.
I could comfortably drive dual PB 16 Ultras on a 10 amp circuit. That amp can also compensate for low voltages. It's pretty impressive.
To be clear, I was absolutely concerned about the this as well, so I'm not picking on you. Very efficient amps, thankfully!
@@Subwoofer101 Honestly you are not correct by saying power connections (I assume you mean the amperage/power available) make zero difference. Yes a Class D amp is efficient and yes some capacitance built into the amp will help with the large bass peaks. How do you think the amp "compensates" for low voltages??? It does this by less power output of course. Power (watts) = amp x volts
For sustained max performance, you have to have the power available to sustain the output. Many other electronics do not have any capacitance so they will pull the power no matter what.
You can't ignore simple physics
You should buy a "kill a watt" meter to see how much power the subs, or anything are really taking.
I have a Kill O Watt meter. Did you think I was pulling it out of my nethers?
My Denon X6200, 65" LED 4K TV, dual PB-16 Ultras, and the LED lights behind the TV easily consumed LESS than 500 watts *combined*, while bumping at a pretty good volume, according to the meter. All in all, a pretty efficient setup.
My 42 inch plasma TV, in STARK contrast, consumes over 250 watts all by itself! Pretty lousy.
I'm aware of this because I'm sizing a solar system for the RV, so I'm aware of voltage/amperage/wattage relationships, as well of the limitations of my flooded lead acid batteries, the losses during conversion to AC, losses from higher consumption, heat and cold, wire size limitations, c ratings, and the importance of Pure Sine AC power as opposed to modified sine.
I'm not an electrician, but I'm not going to be fooled into looking for a bucket of ohms anytime soon either.
In referring to the amp connections, I'm talking about different power supplies for the RV. Plugged into a shared 15 amp power outlet, then a dedicated and shared 20, then a dedicated 30, and all the way to a dedicated 50 amp power outlet (basically dual 50 amp 120 volt circuits), there is no appreciable/audible difference with the amount of power available with the X6200 and dual PB-3000's.
With the system bumping at a serious level, there was easily less than a 1 volt drop according to the meter, when plugged into a shared 20 amp circuit, which also runs our coffee pot, lights, ice maker, and refrigerator in the house. Voltage drop had less to do with the theater than it did with other appliances in use, and the cord length. I won't run at a voltage under 114. Normally 118 in that case.
I can, however, run both 15,000 btu air conditioners, a dehumidifier, microwave, coffee maker, my home theater, and still have my wife use her blow dryer on a 50 amp plug. Basically 10,000-12,000 available watts, give or take. It's a 50 amp, 240 volt plug, split to 120 volts. We did this just to see if we could trip a breaker. No luck doing so.
With everything else off, and a MASSIVE 10,000+ watts available to run just the home theater alone, there is no audible difference running dual PB-3000's, the Denon, and TV versus a shared 15 amp plug, assuming the same voltage at the surge protector plug that powers the theater.
I'm not ignoring physics. If you have a Class A 1,500 watt amp with no capacitance, then yes, you are absolutely correct, you need to consider dedicated circuits. You basically have a space heater that also happens to power your speakers.
For the SVS Class D amps, with enough capacitance to keep playing a while (3-15 seconds) when unplugged, and so long as you aren't seeing significant voltage sag from other loads or otherwise, no need for a dedicated circuit, in my experience with these subs.
But of course, consult an electrician, and maybe even your doctor just to be safe... =)
@@Subwoofer101
Spot on, I just had to dig a little and you provided great info!
And yes like you say just because a sub or any audio amplifier says (X) watt output does not mean it actually does that and if so normally for a very short amount of time.
I have a Sunfire HRS12 (1000 watt amp) and when playing it very loud, the meter rarely shows over 400 watts.
I also have a 50inch Samsung plasma from 2008 that I got on sale for $1,800!!!Haha
Talk about a space heater. That think sucks 500watts no matter what. Not our main TV anymore but the picture is great.
Anyway, I appreciate your replies and you have a great knowledge. Enjoy the system!
Thanks! Yeah 2009 is about when I bought my 42" heater/TV. The 65" LED draws around 100 watts or so, if I recall correctly. Much cooler too. The Denon is easily the warmest device in the mix now.
What level are you running on the sub? I have a single pb3000 that rattles the dishes on the other end of the room so I’m wondering how much I’d really benefit from a second pb3000.
Normally, I want to see them (or it) work, but you're so passionate about some facts, that I wanted to hear more. Kudos ! And I saw a great deal on a new SB-13 ultra to replace my SB-2000. Now I am thinking about a second SB-2000, or two SB-3000 subs. What luxury we live in !
I'll let you know how the SVS SB-3000 sound, getting a pair today... My first foray into a sealed sub of this size. Upgrading from a pair of PB-1000 subs... Mainly use mine for music, then movies. Running the SVS Ultra bookshelf speakers and center.
@@michaelwright1602 Thanks, have fun !
The best sub that ive experienced were 4 dayton ultimax on 1 k each, in a marty setup, that setup just blew me away. It was awesome, maybe next time review the dayton 15 " ultimax sealed pack, very easy to assamble ( just glue). Btw nice review, like always :)
if i get 2 SP 300, is it better to put them together or seperate?
Further apart is better
Great video...very informative.....this is the first time I heard it explained clearly about the difference with ported and sealed subwoofers.... I prefer ported over the sealed...as you said going deep vs sounding deep is on point... maybe for spl the pressure created by a sealed box may work better....
Thanks for such an excellent in-depth review Ryan. This sealed the deal for me. I purchased dual PB-3000's through your affiliate link this evening. It would be great if in the future you could work with some other brand's and do some comparisons to what you have reviewed so far. (Not a complaint, just a kind request. :-) Keep up the great work. Thank you for all your time and hard work in putting these videos and website articles together.
Thanks! I have heard several others, flagships too. SVS has the type of depth I look for. It really is different, you'll see what I mean.
I'm not opposed to other brands, but they have to fit what I look for, or it might just seem like a hit piece. Kind of painted myself in a corner. I plan to get another brand of subs soon though.
Try to get the level up to -18 or so on the PB-3000's, they kick serious butt.
Check out the Distance Hack and the Crossover Hack, it will maximize the bass even further. The Bass Hack series is pretty useful.
Whole different ball game now, I'm curious to see what you think.
Thanks for your support!!
@@Subwoofer101 Thanks for your reply. I know what you mean about painting yourself into a corner with possible reviews of other brands. I know you really favor SVS because of how it not only goes deep, but "sounds deep" as well. I plan to use the distance hack. And I will study your bass hack series like I'm back in college! Thanks again R!
@@Subwoofer101 Hey so i just got the Pb3000, after calibrating at -10 (as per movie preset on the app) it set my avr to -3.0. (Pioneer avr). Anything above 10 db on the app it sounds like its not even there. when I set it to -30 or even -20 it says it cant detect subwoofer as its too quiet. The subwoofer is near field and about 2 feet away to my right.
Ported vs Sealed vs sealed with radiators vs 4 order bandpass box I've heard them all. All can be very good it breaks down to personal preference. My ears tend to love subs with radiators and 4th order bandpass.
Hi,talking about down firing and front firing subs does it concerns the driver or the port?
Nice video.I have my 2 PB 13 Ultra's that I purchased in the summer of 2016. I went home back to the States to visit my parents and by the time I came back to Europe. SVS sent me an email about the PB 16 Ultra that had just dropped! They wanted to know if I wanted to do a trade in? The only problem is that the PB 16 cost 3500 euro each in Germany???!!!! No thanks I said,I'll keep my PB 13 Ultra's!!! I'm happy with my purchase!
Updated price for the PB16s in EU is actually 3750,- Euro PER PCS...way too expensive compared to the US price. At this level I do not think they sell them at all over here. I would like 2 but waaay to expensive.
@@bloodcarver913 Oh yeah! That's way too expensive!!!!!
Have you still got your pb13 ultras? Have you upgraded to the latest sledge amp the 1200? I've got one with bash amp but looking at upgrading the amp and getting a second pb13.
@@abs6764 Yeah,I still have'em. I have to get around to upgrading the amps. I've been busy building bicycles? I have lots of hobbies. I need to do a fresh rebuild on my computer too? If you can get your hands on a graphics card?
Are you saying you did your PEQ and then ran room correction? Or, you ran room calibration first and THEN played and did your PEQ’s?
Room correction first, then fine-tune with PEQs.
@@Subwoofer101 thank you sir! 🙏🏻
Great review.
I'll bet the reason the PB-3000 feels like it's "punching above its weight" is actually DUE to its incredible mid-bass performance, Ed Mullen from SVS posted on AVS recently that while the PB-3000 has about 3dB more output than the PB-2000 at 20Hz, which would put it right between the PB-2000 and PB-4000, he said it has (quoting Ed)
" a bunch more than that in the 40-80 Hz octave - I was shocked (and I'm jaded and hard to impress) at the output of the PB-3000 during CEA-2010 testing against the PB-2000. That new driver has a low moving mass and is very efficient and the BL curve looks great from the split-wind coil and associated motor changes."
This could account for your "chest massage" and "impact" comment, as I tend to associate those terms with the "chest slam" you get from the midbass frequencies (~ 50 -120Hz range).My SubMersives have this in spades too.
I think SVS hit it outta the park with this one!
I agree! The SB3000 have great impact in the midbass section 50-60hz. Indeed the hit me in the chest section.
Good information because I was torn between the 4000 and 3000. It the twin 3000 for my money 💰;)
A very sound decision!
Great video! Interesting comment concerning your sensitivity toward sealed subs. I am the same way with ported subs.
Well that's unexpected! I would expect that to be a timing/phase issue. Side by side, same guts, a ported should be easier on the ears. Also could be the individual subs, typical subs are often too strong around 50-75 hertz, which can also be painful. Which subs are we talking about, both ported and sealed?
Thanks for the comment, I had the SVS pb-1000 and found it slow and somewhat bloated in my room. I moved it about the room and saw no improvement. Then upgraded to the SVS sb-2000 and find it great for movies but not for 2ch listening.
Dual subs resolve a lot of that slow feeling. Tightens up the response.
I want subs that sound like a live venue with as much or more output in the 50-60hz range than most subs now are best in the best in the lower ranges for movies I listen to music 90% of time and looking more for crazy output in the 50-60 range. Just not into that low end bass. My room is huge like 600+ SF
"a mule on roid rage" hahahahaaa
this the best review i saw on the svs line of subs. 👍 after much debate i finally bought one should be here tomorrow. i was still second guessing my decision until this review . yes duels rule i will get another one later.
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I have and still use my REL Q400E sealed subwoofer. After many years of use it still packs a punch with plenty of low end thump. I know it's outdated now but I still like the sound it using the avr passover. If anyone has had simular it would be nice to know
The PB-3000 isn't priced right. For instance if you look at the 2000 series the SB is $700 and the PB is $800, so 14.3% more for the PB. For the 4000 series the PB is 26.7% more and for the 16 Ultra the PB is 25% more. When you do the math for the 3000 series the PB is 40% more, WOW! The PB should have been between $1,150 to $1,300.
Lol, yep, sorta. Unknown variables.
What's your advice on dual SB-2000's vs single SB-3000? I have a 1,400 ft3 room. (12.5 x 14.5 ft) I'll be using them for music and movies. Thanks!
I guess he never wanted to answer you.
Very helpful video. If your room is very large, 4500 to 5000 cubit feet, would it make sense to get the dual PB-4000 vs the PB-3000 or is the PB-3000 still all that is needed?
I own a pair of these babies and I love them. Truth is, I really like the look of the pb 4000's. but as you mentioned , they are very closely matched. so, I see no reason to upgrade. However I would like to feel what it feels to listen to the pb 16 ultra's
Why not the SB3000? I know nothing... and trying to figure out what I want. I'm older 63, don't like to rattle the house...mid size room in oval shape. Matching with sony str az5000es, klipsch 8000ii, mostly home theater...like clean sounds...have hard time with understanding voices in movies, and music.
I think that ported is the better option a good ported subwoofer can do everything you want it to.
I agree!
Great review, I've got a single pb13 ultra bash amp which I'm looking at replacing with the sledge amp in the 4000. I was looking at getting another pb13 with a sledge amp. Would this be better for me over dual 3000s? Thanks
I have one PC13-Ultra but cant afford to get another one due to space constraints. Will having 2x SB2000 or SB3000 be better for me if i do 90% movies / 10% music? Our bedroom is 14sqm/150sqft. (note: I can't move subs around, very tight space).
Are dual "PC-2000 Pro" an option? Same price as dual SB-3000, but I imagine better for movies. They just released it on Tuesday. Looking really good. Has the App, new driver, and same amp tech from the PB-16 Ultras, just lower wattage.
If you meant 1 vs 2, always 2. Dual SB-2000 Pro instead of a single SB-3000.
I own dual pb3000's and they really are real good! I would recommend because they are so very similar and close to the 4,000 saving $1,000 in buying dual 3000's instead
running duals has been a revelation; I was on a much much lower budget, but for a small bedroom the dual pb1000's do great. I also noticed a HUGE improvement by raising them up off the floor using some basic nesting tables (you can get a set of three on amazon for $100)
Hi will 2 pb3000 fill a 5300 cubic sq ft room?
Yes they will, easy. Be sure to follow my bass hacks to get the most out of them.
Gain hack, crossover hack, distance hack, adjusting subs by ear, SVS App Hack, etc...
You could get PB-16 Ultras, and by simply not optimizing them, a pair of PB-1000 Pro's would outperform them just by being optimized.
I'm running the PB-3000s now, and I have a lot of headroom left. One of my favorite subs.
Ok will do. Thanks
Would be interested to get your opinion on Elac's . I think you'll like them 👌
Jason tradinghigh I bought them on sale last year on that Amazon sale and couldn’t be happier. They aren’t the best sounding speakers I have heard, but they are the best sounding speakers in that price range, by far.
I also had a pressure thing when i got my sb-1000’s. Went away after a week or two.
Hi by chance would you review Arendal 1961 and 1723? I found the on RUclips looking at the SVS PB 3000 or the Arendal 1723. Would really like to hear your thoughts on this
Here’s a question for ya, dual sb4000s OR dual pb3000s? Only a $200 price difference, I’m leaning toward the 4000s, but I’m just not sure if they will get low like I want. Tough call. I’m mostly movies 70/30 to music. Thanks if you even see this! Lol.
Dual PB-3000's would be my pick. No question.
Thanks for this review i think Dual PB 3000s will be great for me, just a few more months of saving to go :)
I believe the pb3000 is bumping my klipsch sw115 to my workout room!!
Didn't You have issues with 115?
@@8000860 yeah I'm not sure what is the problem. Swapped out subwoofer cables, still barely makes any sound. Idk if the internal Amp is the issue or not
@@RomanEmpireRSVR Many people have issues with them. Yeah, with amp. They say, that resistor is mounted way too close to PCB surface and the heat essentially melts the caps around it.
I like 115 visually much more, than SPL-150, but I'm afraid to buy it because of that issue.
@@8000860 I honestly would stay away unless you get a steal of a deal on it
A great in depth review. I really get a sense of the sound listening to this. But again, this channel needs to be changed to 'SVS SUBWOOFERS 101'. Since we started to hear...over and over ....that you're the worlds first svs affiliate (and that's great no offence), that's what's covered, that alone with a couple sentence fragments here and there noting another brand. I love SVS, own 3 of their subs...but this is now an SVS channel. If they're not paying you a lot, this is a lot in free adverts for them. They likely wouldn't want you to make the branding so obvious in the title...maybe that's why
Any time I review an SVS product, I disclose the affiliation, both as a courtesy to my audience and to comply with the law. Not everyone does that.
I get compensation when people follow my links and place an order, but that's the only time, and none of my reviews, SVS or otherwise, are "paid" or directed in any fashion. Nor would I want that.
I make the videos that I want to make, and I don't make videos that I don't believe in.
Nor do I promote every SVS product. I could really boost my commissions by promoting sealed subs, SVS sealed outsells ported 2-1. I could potentially double my commissions. Yet I don't.
I have a sound that I prefer, and this sub embodies that sound perfectly. If it was another brand giving me this type of performance, I would be just as excited about it.
Most manufacturers have different priorities though. If I were to beat them up on video for not delivering the performance I personally look for, that would be seen as bias too. Either way, people will make their assumptions.
I asked SVS to start an affiliate program because they had the sound I was looking for with their ported subs. I have other brands on the list, but I do prefer SVS the most so far, for a number of definible, measurable reasons.
One thing I won't do is be artificially excited about other brands or products for the sake of appearances. That's just as bad, in my opinion.
Really nice review. What crossover did you end up?
Usually 90-120 hz depending on the speaker. Always set to Small, tower speakers 90 hz, satellite/elevations 120 hz.
Still getting response to the speaker under the crossover point, but it's a hard cutoff for the subs, and I believe in feeding my subs as much as possible. 90 hertz is always a minimum for me, unless I'm trying to trim bass in a very specific way.
Always set the crossover for the highest value, effectively disabling the crossover on the sub itself, aka high pass filter off.
Love the channel, how low with room gain in a normal room (not motor home) can dual pb-3000's go according to measurements? I'd like to get down to 13hz, do you think a dual pb-3000 setup will get me there?
I bought a dual SVS BP 2000’s I was trying to by them through you but the SVS app won’t allow me considerably they’re out! So i bought them from world wide stereo..
The next day I mean the next day you posted a video for PB 2000 pro really!
Hello Subwoofer 101, I just upgraded from the pb-2000 to the pb-3000 and they will arrive this tuesday. Any tips on how to set up new pb-3000s?
From the way you describe the PB-3000's it sounds like performance is somewhere between the old PB12 plus and PB13 ultra.
Awesome video, I was actually thinking about getting one pb16 ultra and maybe later on getting another. But damn.... Is dual pb3000's really that good that you'd recommend it over a pb16 ultra? That's some crazy performance...my jaw is on the floor lol. I guess I'll get two pb-3000's and if I want more just get two more lol. I'm still kinda craving the feeling of owning the pb16 ultra though.... That thing is just legendary Imo.
I'll NEVER go back to ported subs. My sealed car and home subs sound much better., IMO...The 16 ultra should be only for large rooms. They can overwhelm small and medium rooms, and that doesn't sound good. Ported subs are just not good for me in a small or medium room. They lack musical quality as I said.
Would these be too much for a dedicated room of 2400 cubic feet?
Its these or the PB2000 Pros?
Need advice?
In practice, are these SVS subs hard on your home's electrical circuits? I'm assuming the 16 Ultra is a different story, but the 1000 - 4000 line, can these be plugged into the wall like normal without expecting lights to flicker?
ALL of them are extremely efficient.
Class D amplification is impressive.
Even the PB-16 Ultra consumes less power over time than my TV.
There is good capacitance, meaning the power is stored, unlike Class A amplifiers, where they consume a lot more power constantly.
I've seen people install individual circuits for PB-16 Ultras, but in my opinion, it's completely unnecessary.
The nature of sound is impulsive. So it's not a constant draw like an air conditioner would be.
The SVS amplifiers are also like power conditioners, with the ability to run on lower voltage (weaker) circuits.
I've had to build a sophisticated power system for the home theater in the motorhome, so I'm intimately familiar with the amount of power consumed.
The ENTIRE theater setup, including 65" TV, Denon AVR, Fire Stick, Blu Ray player, and 2 PB-2000 Pro's, all running together consume between 200 and 450 watts in total, and when it gets close to 350 watts, things are *REALLY* rocking.
It's pretty crazy how efficient they are, especially for the energy they put into the room.
@@Subwoofer101 Appreciate the detailed response, helps a lot! I came across your channel while I was researching the benefits of 2 subwoofers vs 1. Now you've also peaked my interest in the SVS product line.
SVS subs are game changers. The most important thing I can say about them is to turn them up.
When your AVR has you set the level for your subwoofers, it always sets them too low.
Most AVRs are flawed, in that they're just looking for the peak decibel output, but on an SVS subwoofer, that peak output is always much lower in frequency than the vast majority of subwoofers.
That's where my bass hack series, and my Top 16 AVR settings really make a difference.
Glad you found the channel!
Dear content creator. I've followed your channel for a while now. I love the deep dives you do about subwoofer sound. I'm in dyer need of your input. I already have an SVS SUB (SB 13 ULTRA) I want to go duals and after listening to your review I want to add the PB-3000, but I've heard that is not good to mix SB with PB what would you recommend. My concern is that if go with another SB 3000 would I be missing anything? Vs the PB 3000. Thank you in advance.
What crossover did you end up with your subs and what’s on your main and satellite speakers?
Mains typically around 90 hertz, even for Towers, and 120-150 for Satellite, Elevation, and any speaker with a small bass driver. Always set to Small.
@@Subwoofer101thank you, this is really helpful. I followed your advise to put the levels all the way down on avr for the subs and tune it on the subs. Still confused on what the crossover for this subs
@SirChiefUK I disable the crossover on the subwoofer itself, and let the AVR handle everything. I'm glad you enjoy your equipment more after using my tips! Love to hear it.
I would love to hear your opinion on how the PB-3000 fares against it's competitors, mainly the Outlaw Ultra 13 and HSU VTF3- MK5 and VTF-15H MK2.
I have a pair of MK 350 THX certified subs for the past 14 years They blew the PB-2000s away on all aspects. Something went wrong on the amp. Being that old plus MK went out of business, The new take over is not even in thin country!
I bought two PB -2000 and just swap out for dual PB 3000s, Let you know what i think of them.
One issue people can have is the deep sound of the SVS subs don't put out the same relative midbass as every other sub does at the same dial position. The simple solution is to match the levels of your previous sub in the 50-80 hertz range, which should result in a lot more bottom end response, while still delivering the same midbass performance you're used to.
Being really loud in the midbass and quiet in the deep bass is something I consider a flaw. SVS subs are ruler flat, which means that with room gain, they get a little louder as they go deeper. A very satisfying sound in my opinion.
Basically, turn up the SVS subs a little more than you would with the previous subs. You can also use the PEQ function in the SVS app to shape the curve to your liking with the PB-3000's.
I'm starting off with 1 PB3000 will I still be impressed the room is 11x12 the sub I'm replacing is a Martin Logan 700W lol
Absolutely. The difference will be undeniable.
@@Subwoofer101 perfect thanks
What do you think is better the pb 16 or HSU’s VTF-15H Mk2 ?! Thank you ...
I tell you this: I started with a single PB-2000 which I was more then satisfied with. I was planning on going dual but decided to try the PB-3000 due to reviews. I pulled the trigger. Just got the 3000 on Thursday. After dialing it in I couldn’t believe what a difference from the 2000. To me, the new 3000 not only has way more impact but a smoother response. The 2000 was to “boomy” (not as precise) I had my mind set to send the 3000 back and keep my 2000 and possibly going dual. I packaged the 3000 and swapped to my 2000. After dialing it in... I’m KEEPING the 3000. I’m sold. I can’t fathom how 2 PB-3000’s would be! 1 is Awesome but eventually I will go dual. If you have any doubt jumping from the PB-2000 to the 3000, in my opinion, worth it.
Right on! I think the boomy sensation you got from your single PB-2000 would be pretty much resolved if you had two of them. Still one of my favorite subs. Two PB-2000's would sound better than a single PB-3000, but dual PB-3000's are undeniably better than dual PB-2000's.
You can try mixing the PB-2000 and PB-3000, just keep in mind that it won't be as good as two PB-3000's. The bass won't be as "perfect", and probably sound more like dual PB-2000's than dual PB-3000's, but should still be better than a single. It's a weird thing, but until I had dual PB-16 Ultras, I didn't really understand what they were actually capable of. See my upcoming video today for more explanation.
And yes, dual PB-3000's are truly impressive! Very explosive, but still soft when the bass is soft. Thanks for watching and thanks for sharing!
Explosive Bass video, live in a few minutes: ruclips.net/video/XlOfwl7NtXU/видео.html
I have a dedicated home theater 20 by 13 what do you recommend a dual Pb 16 or a 4 Pb 3000?
I looked at these subs long and hard and I couldn't decide.... so I just bought the PB-16 ultra 😅
Can you help me out with picking my AV receiver I want to go with Marantz 7012, with a emotiva, what do you thank, should I go sr8012, ED Mullen said i would be better to go with the 7012 only difffernce is IMAX for the 7013, but 8012 more wpc but on surrond would a 100 on the 7012 be fine tell me I am almost done with this project. Also going dolby atmost with 4 klish in the ceiling.
I want to upgrade my PB-2000 for a 3000. I chose that option over going to dual PB-2000 even if I might be wrong.. I hope the 3000 will fill the 4500 cubic room better with higher quality bass. I can't afford dual 3000, but I'm still unsureI If two PB-2000 will sound more satisfying than one 3000. In other words is the difference between 3000 and 2000 considerable enough to upgrade ...what a hard decision...
currently am on the market for a subwoofer.., and i want to get the PB-4000 but i like the new PB-3000 too.., any recomendations? maybe dual PB-3000 instead of the PB-4000
100%, absolutely dual PB-3000's over a single PB-4000. All day long, no question.
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If you wanted to upgrade, I'd go straight to the PB 16 Ultras. Going from the PB-3000 to the PB-4000 is not dramatic. The PB 16 Ultras would be a worthwhile change. The PB-3000's are that good.
Subwoofer 101 awesome ! I will., i love your videos., so dual Pb-3000s it’s!
Right on! Report back after you've had some time with them. Definitely watch the Bass Hack series to get the most out of them. Thanks for your support!!
I have 2 SB 3000 and love love love hahah
They are great subs for sure.
Fabio Zago I have dual sb 3000 running with my marantz sr6014, I have a quick question. Do u eq sub from svs app and then run audissey or just run audissey first and then use svs eq for further twiking?
Thanks in advance.
@@mironyousuf2428 i only run audyssey from app , I saw no need to add more eq to the audy app or the svs app, as the end result was very pleasing. If you want to see the graphics, on my channel i have one video showing.
Great breakdown.. I'm sure you get asked this a lot. Is it always preferred to have two over one? I dont have a dedicated listening room yet so im concerned about space. Where the my music set up is...is between the living room and dining room...its a small space that gets a lot foot traffic. This is my first set up and I'm set on svs. I know you don't enjoy sealed subs but that's the route I want to try since this set up will be strictly for music. So...was looking at sp2000 pro. Would it be better to get two or one sp3000? Obviously budget is a factor :). Someone on another forum told me one sp2000 pro would sound great and may be all I need with the speakers and intergrated amp that im using (klipsh rp600m & iotavx sa3) but id hate to drop 800 on a sub only to be disappointed. So, just wondering your thoughts. Great video again!
What I do like is the app and all the features. It left me only with one question : while the 2000 series uses a knob to adjust the volume where these subs kicking arse is at 2 o clock. What setting is this for the new series on the volume? Standard its minus 10db. But i had to put it on -5db on the sb3000 to come alive on movies and shake the couch. But is this to loud? After 10 min on this volume i did smell the woofer a bit (when i was close to the woofer) i didnt hear any audible distortion though during the test
I'm going over to the dark side... Replacing my very nice pair of SVS PB-1000 subs... Ordered two SVS SB-3000 sealed subs on Monday night, they are on the FedEx truck right now, being delivered today... I finally got my system up and running to where I am satisfied, and the PB-1000 subs were blending in well, but they were just not cutting it with the music I like to listen to... Hence, the SVS SB-3000. SVS is buying back my PB-1000 subs, too hard to pass up this hopefully good upgrade. Oh, I will call SVS this morning and make sure they give you credit for the sale. This is all your fault, so you should get credit. ;-)
On edit: I'm going sealed vs ported as the bulk of my use is music, two channel... It was a tough call, but decided the sealed would be a better option for the intended use. We shall see... I have year with these if I decide to up or side grade.
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