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There are two schools of thought about job automation: one rejects the idea as robots "stealing" human jobs, while the other cannot wait to put its feet up and tuck into some Proust - finally, free time for all those 3,000-page beasts of literature! The reality, as usual, is somewhere in between. An increasing number of professions will become automated, but Bill Nye believes there will always be a place for human ingenuity. We started building complex machines centuries ago because there are things we would rather be doing - like building new machines, refining mathematics, continuing our education, or exploring the universe. There are some jobs it would be better for robots to have: industrial welding, driving trains, packing warehouse orders, admin - why not make our lives less strenuous? "We want to automate the world to the extent that is comfortable, but no more," Nye says. Job automation is scary in the way that large-scale change usually is, but Nye thinks it will be a positive inflection point for humanity, enriching our existence with more debate, art, invention, sport, and discovery. Bill Nye's most recent book is Unstoppable: Harnessing Science to Change the World.
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BILL NYE :
Bill Nye, scientist, engineer, comedian, author, and inventor, is a man with a mission: to help foster a scientifically literate society, to help people everywhere understand and appreciate the science that makes our world work. Making science entertaining and accessible is something Bill has been doing most of his life.
In Seattle Nye began to combine his love of science with his flair for comedy, when he won the Steve Martin look-alike contest and developed dual careers as an engineer by day and a stand-up comic by night. Nye then quit his day engineering day job and made the transition to a night job as a comedy writer and performer on Seattle’s home-grown ensemble comedy show “Almost Live.” This is where “Bill Nye the Science Guy®” was born. The show appeared before Saturday Night Live and later on Comedy Central, originating at KING-TV, Seattle’s NBC affiliate.
While working on the Science Guy show, Nye won seven national Emmy Awards for writing, performing, and producing. The show won 18 Emmys in five years. In between creating the shows, he wrote five children’s books about science, including his latest title, “Bill Nye’s Great Big Book of Tiny Germs.”
Nye is the host of three currently-running television series. “The 100 Greatest Discoveries” airs on the Science Channel. “The Eyes of Nye” airs on PBS stations across the country.
Bill’s latest project is hosting a show on Planet Green called “Stuff Happens.” It’s about environmentally responsible choices that consumers can make as they go about their day and their shopping. Also, you’ll see Nye in his good-natured rivalry with his neighbor Ed Begley. They compete to see who can save the most energy and produce the smallest carbon footprint. Nye has 4,000 watts of solar power and a solar-boosted hot water system. There’s also the low water use garden and underground watering system. It’s fun for him; he’s an engineer with an energy conservation hobby.
Nye is currently the Executive Director of The Planetary Society, the world’s largest space interest organization.
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TRANSCRIPT:
Ian: Hey Bill. My name’s Ian and I’m a computer science student. So the fields of machine learning and robotics have been making technological advances and replacing human labor at a blinding speed. And at this point it seems almost inevitable that virtually all jobs are going to be automated in the future. So my question is this: When and if machines replace our jobs, what should we spend our lives accomplishing instead? Is there some greater goal that we should aim toward? Thank you so much.
Bill Nye: Machines are going to replace every job? What about this job right here man?! What about that, I’m thinking! What about that man?
So I think there will still be a great many jobs that require human involvement. After all, why have humans build machines if there isn’t something humans want to do? Like play baseball or argue about what machines are going to do.
So I claim that there’s a lot of jobs that we would all prefer machines do. I don’t know if you’ve ever made pancake batter mixing it by hand; It’s okay. Cake batter, mixing it by hand; It’s okay. But it’s easier to do it wi...
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in the words of cgp grey :" there isn't a rule of economics that say - better technology makes more better jobs for horses. it sounds shockingly dump to even say that out loud but swap horses for humans and suddenly people think it sounds about right."
Humans.... Need not apply!
I don't agree with the framing, what's being ignored here is that horses aren't the main beneficiary of an economy, humans are. So to imply that humans and horses are interchangeable is pretty far reaching.
but at one point horses WERE the main economic driver, they became obsolete not because they became lazy but because mechanical muscles became cheaper and better.
Bill Nye is right when he says the future will increase the quality of life by having to care of less, but the train that takes you to the airport in his example is still operated by a company that is profit orriented. how is the former train conductor supposed to take part in this life when he can not afford it anymore?
that conductor isn't alone. he is part of a large group of people. if a large part of your income is based on these people then you will reduce the price on your product to sell more.
Driver not beneficiary I think you've missed something here. Horses don't get paid they don't realisticly need paid left to it's own devises a horse will live it's life as if nothing matters. A human on the other hand we need MONEY to function in modern society. We benefit from our economy by being able to afford things we both want and need. You replace us with robots and 90% of the population STARVES TO DEATH without massive changes to society.
That was a really poor response that didn't answer the question. Thermostats, electric mixers and manual transmissions are NOT what people are worried about with AI and advanced robotics. Bill, you need to do this video again with a better response.
Not when you incorporate machine learning.
He has dodged a similar question in the same manner before. He just refuses to address implications of machines with cognitive abilities and just rambles on about traditional automation instead. Pretty annoying.
+kody914 yeah it was a tad bit weak of a response...He should have brought up the fact that robots or computers lack imagination and therefore can not create abstract things like art or compose music. Most of the products we use in our everyday lives were once from someone's imagination or idea. However if we can truly create self conscious, self aware AI with imagination and abstract thought...look out!
+Walter M no man kody914 is not talking of "robots turning us into slaves" ai. he and i believe the guy asking the question are talking about the simulation of ai. the way things used to be, people would gape in awe when a thermostat would kick in and the ac would start working. now, there is a computer designed by ibm that is programmed to be a lawyer. it is true. it has been running for the past year or so. it has been given only minor cases as this is a trial stage but it will move on to bigger ones. you know what that means? every single person you know that is studying law is fucked. and that is just one example. the problem is that capitalism is not equipped to handle large scale unemployment. its response to it is "you are a lazy piece of shit". but that wont cut it in the years to come. we ll need to redesign the system. but the powers that be will resist that and things will get messy.
+ailouros24 I'm a software dev...we'll be find. Seriously tho...what do resilient animals do? Adapt and overcome their environment. A resilient human must learn to re-educate and re-skill. Plain and simple...
I'm disappointed in Nye's answer tbh. But I guess the question was bad too. Instead the interesting thing to focus on is how robots and AI could radically restructure our economic, social, and political systems. Living in a world that no longer revolves around wage labor and the necessity of money to survive is a fascinating topic that I wish was explored here. I do agree that humans will find things "to do", but what kind of huge shift in our collectively psychology will take place when we no longer have to see our worth as beings as the amount of wealth we are able to accumulate? I think these things are so interesting and important to talk about it and I hope Nye shares some of his views on these topics in the future.
Spot on. His reply seems to be for minority that can choose to "rent" themselves or not, like he is talking about a fun game that we want to improve *but not ruin*. It says nothing to 90% who, more or less, slave each day just to pay bills and survive another month. Superficial and disappointing.
Claire Wood I agree,I think he definitely missed the big picture here on how robots taking our jobs and other things could effect us.
+Bored Boar I agree and sincerely hope that things move in that direction.
In fairness, he is a scientist. not a social scientist. His answer wasn't clear but the question wasn't so clear either.
Growing up from the flip phones to the iPhones in my middle school years made me realize when the stress started.
As an Automation Specialist for 17 years I can come firm there are several tasks that a machine can do more accurately and efficiently than a human can. However there still are and always will be the need for human interactions with the product for several applications. Also when the machine breaks down there is not a robot waiting in the corner to fix it. It takes several skilled people to maintain automation.
I never thought I'd give Bill Nye a thumbs down, but in this case I did. He did not answer the question. What are we humans going to do to earn livings and support our families if jobs become more rare. Let's get one thing straight. The majority of people in this world do not do what they want to for work. They don't do it because they love it , they do it because they have to. They need to make money. There is a big difference between a hobby and a job. There are a few people out there that do what they absolutely love, every single day.... But that is not the case for most people.
Travels & Chases agree he did not answer
Jobs that have a clearly defined peak level of performance (basically every minimum wage job) WILL be replaced by robots. For example, if your job is to mop a floor, there is a clearly defined peak level. That's a floor well cleaned in the shortest amount of time using the least amount of resources. Everything else is unideal; therefore, obselete.
Jobs that don't have a clearly defined level of peak performance (such as art) will still be done by humans. Jobs such as art, music, or jobs that deal with human emotions have too many variables to reliably automate. They are constantly changing and evolving, so the peak level of performance is always changing and is becoming more and more subjective, unlike mopping floors, where the floor is either clean or not.
King Me Now Art work is already being created by robots. Even articles in newspapers are being written by robots now. No job will be safe, but some jobs will be safer longer than others. Think of it this way. Let's say horses are having this converation. They would be saying "the automobile won't replace us because they will break down and become unreliable. It will make our jobs easier but we won't become obsolete." But now who tf uses horses for transportation now?
Jesus Christ no anon, robot can't create art, they just copying them. When robot can actually create arts, they became "human", why? Art is product of emosion and expression of imagination, you'll need as advance and as complex as HUMAN to do it, but no, robots are just a simple logic machine. All machine you see, that doing "arts"? They just a program that was coded to do something that already had been done by human before them. Are they actually done art? No, they just do a job of copycats. The newspaper? They just done a job of typers. Do they do the real job of journalisting? By their own? Socialize with people on an event for stories? No.
By just this statement i can conclude that you lact of actual knowlege of things and just being paranoid by this. I thought a son of God would be better than this...
@@mrdoormat6809
Artificial Intelligence has all of the hallmarks to match or exceed human creativity. From artwork to music, AI will produce "original" content that will be indistinguishable from humanoids...
Its cute that you think that. As robots learn fake emotion and art the shit out of us, you can think of how wrong you were as skynet kills us all while composing a lovely sonnet.
Saying "they will take our jobs" forgets to mention what kind of unimaginable immense amount of wealth automation is going to create. Food and basic necessities will be *free*. Almost anything will *cost close to nothing*.
I *wish* engineers could hurry up and design us some of those robots as quickly as humanly possible.
Why will companies sell anything for free? It's not the government that's creating these machines.
You have not understood my point. A company runs to generate *profit*. If you sell for $0 what's in it for you - as a company?
It's supply and demand. If supply rises towards infinity so do the prices fall towards zero. Automation will allow that.
I don't know about other countries, but here in Germany there is a protection if you have no job. You will always be supported by the state so you can afford the basic necessities. It is simply a flat sum that you can use every month to feed, clothe and pay rent. Automation will allow prices to fall so low that amount of money will be enough to buy almost anything.
That is completely true, and should be obvious enough. The sad part is that 90% of Human beings are just apes with the ability to speak.
It is a surreal experience for us Germans to look towards the USA. Everyone I talk to is weirded out by the insane hyper-capitalism they hear about.
I remember reading an article about robotics in 1980 and it predicted that around year 2000 95% or all manufacturing jobs would be replaced by robots. Especially in the car manufacturing industry. Well here we are in 2017 and I work in the car industry and things didn't advance that much from 1980 workmanship wise. Yes we have robots doing certain things like welding but that was reality already in 1980. Certainly I was expecting more. Way way more.
ha that's funny
For those of you disappointed in his answer, I'd like to ask why? He said he thinks robots will be used in our lives about as much as we need them. I think that's your answer. I'm sure he doesn't think they will take over.
The problem right now is not the technology, it's that we have so many legacy systems in place that really need to go away. We tend to hold on to these legacy things because they either make a lot of money or have a lot of jobs attached to them. Both are not good reasons to keep something around if a species truly wants to advance further. I think the hard part is people coming to the realization that our economic system really doesn't work for the direction humankind is heading. We evolved over millions of years, and now maybe life is putting us through the hardest evolution of all...the evolution of the consciousness. Maybe this a common tipping point that many civilizations throughout the cosmos don't make it past. Who knows... But I know we are capable of creating something much better than what we currently have.
Very well said, the truth and biggest factor of all. I have a strong feeling the evolution of consciousness is where many species die out sadly.
I think, the bigger question underlying this is - how do we reshape the economic structures of our society to turn this coming wave of technological prosperity into a catalyst for actual positive change? Capitalism, as a system, simply breaks down when you introduce this kind of technology into the system. The loss of jobs due to technology is a serious issue. As people are laid off, consumer spending drops. As consumer spending drops, wages stagnate and more people are laid off. It's all well and good to say that people will find other things to do, but the issue is that you can't often do these things and actually get paid, and if you don't get paid, you can't actually take part in those other things for very long.
answer: watch CGP Grey vdeo "human need not apply" and vsauce 2 "will robot make us more human"
bill missed the question.
the guy never worried about job loss or automation, but he wondered how we are going to utilize our time once we are no longer subject to a labor market in order to survive.
on top of that, bills answer is based on the fallacy that just because jobs have been replaced in the past, replacements must be available in sufficient numbers in the future, too.
The thing that would blow my mind the most, and I'm not sure if it's possible, is robots that can do troubleshooting and maintenance on other robots. To me, troubleshooting is something that only humans will be able to do. Unless the robot solution is to simply replace any part that fails some diagnostic or something. The trades too. Installing plumbing or fixing plumbing, electricians, mechanics ect. I don't know if robots will ever get that level of human curiosity and ingenuity.
I love driving a manual transmission vehicle. If I am driving a car that is designed to be fun (preferably an MX-5), I will always prefer to drive a manual, it just adds to the experience.
I love Bills Nye's argument, we want robots to work because there are other things that we want to do instead of working. Not to mention robots can't think and come up with new ideas like us, witch still leaves us with something to do.
The only problem I see with a automated labor force is money, What will people do for money? Some one once said on RUclips comments that money will become obsolete, but then how would we pay for things?
"Robot, taste my brownies, please." "No, thanks. I am not brownies. I am a robot."
That is good an all but the dude is a computer science guy and has probably seen the effects automation can have on the industry. Staff reductions are very common in fields involving IT even if it seems like there's so many jobs for it. Systems administration, DBA's, even AI designing code. The concern is eventually the suppliers and maintainers of a very select popular few of these systems will be the only players in that game and many other.
I was actually thinking about submitting this exact question.
Every job except those of creativity.
People don't seem to realize that it's the moral and most beneficial position to automate all human labor. Due to automation some thing will be simply fazed out or become Obsolete naturally.
So he is saying the only job left will be to be human. Unless ai can somehow replicate emotions now.
WOW, Bill Nye didnt go deep in this. What about jobs that depend on to make a fucking living in this world....
Equalitas what if we didnt need money because of it. thats the point.
I agree. He was talking philosophically and not in the practical sense. The human element will always be needed and that is technically right. Economics is the real issue. He mentions that certain skills will become obsolete, but doesn't mention how difficult and expensive it is to go learn new relevant ones, like computer skills, especially if you are older and have a lot of expenses or need to retire due to health etc...
The point is the transition will not be easy and straight forward, because surely some people in the short term will be left behind, lose jobs or at least not as well off. How should we as a society help them? Or is it strictly up to the individual to fend for himself.
This is the kind of things i wanted him to say in the video.
Drew Gibson you will have universal basic income so you will have more than enough money as everything will be very cheap in a few decades
IF and when governments agree to it. But if conservative or strict capitalist ideals are maintained, there is no guarantee of that happening.
Some things that will never go away are sports, the arts, music, tv, and inventions. What if all blue collar jobs didn't disappear but instead were changed into white collar jobs.
Plus they'll be a market for face to face services. As long as humans are around that is.
This is exactly why the U.S. needs free college, people who already have or will lose their jobs to automation/machines can more easily learn a new skill and find new work that only a higher education can provide. The only things stopping us are greed and stupidity
I'm not going to let some robot steal my job of adjusting a thermostat several times a day!
I wrote this comment few years ago and I think is adequate for this topic; the part about jobs (you can change word robot for AI):
For this problem I see very easy solution. But should be on scale to a workers revolution when we adopted 8hr workday.
1. robot please take my job (I'll explain)
2. today and in future there is and will be even more new knowledge to learn by individuals to even live in modern society. Today we are bombarded with info and hardly cope with everything in our daily lives. So problem of modern society is mostly lack of time.
3. Where to get this time ? We need 8h of sleep. We need free time to learn new things and be with families more than ever. So, for me is only logical answer in reducing working time.
4. It is very non realistic to think that robot will replace humans in work force. To whom will then be sold all the goods that those automated factory will produce if people will have no money.
5. I think the only and best solution is to gradually reduce working time. Let say to 6h daily. With this move we can actually employ almost all unemployed at this moment. Sure at beginning average wages will go down for cca 10% but with lower costs for unemployment and actually more gdp produced by those now unemployed the GDP will eventually rise. This move to 6h work day could compensate for first steps to robotising production and eliminating most of unemployment.
6. With the advancement in robotising production we can move to 4h work day in next century and lower. For sake of argument we can go to even 1h work day but this will not affect our standard of living.
7. People mostly don't realise that money is worthless paper. It is just mathematical function how goods produced in the world is divided among us. But is important that we have money since number on pay check tells us what is our worth in the world and therefore how much produced goods can we afford. So, this is just some numerical value. And sum of all those money values in the world is equal to produced goods. If we work e.g 1h a day because most of production is made by robots and output of factories is equal or even bigger than today's, again those good will be divided among people by there input ( only 1h but never the less). And on there pay check would be same relative number as on today's paychecks.
8. 8h work day is not given by god but is agreed among people. And today's standard is much much higher than 150 or 200 years ago when people work 14 to 16 hours a day. So, work hour has nothing to do with standard of living in robotised society but only how we can make now agreement on dividing produced gods with diminishing hours spend on work.
Thank You Thank You Sir.
I've spoken to people about what a could could be like after automation and due on that automation the naturally elimination for the need of Monetary Exchange. Sadly people look at me dumbfounded like working a 9 to 5 is all there is to like. Due to job people have lost the ability for the most part to live outside their box.
there is no such thing as a stupid question..... and this question wasn't clever but DEFINATELLY wasn't stupid although it has been asked many times... loved Nye's answer
Univeral Basic Income. It's not a sliver bullet, but it would help make the labour surplus, well, be less of a surplus. We can redefine what we value in society and focus on other things that manner to us. Everyone could start their own business and work for themselves or stimulate the economy with consumption. It's not the only idea but it's certainly got good things going for it I'd say.
Hey Bill, what would that horse your grandfather rode in to battle think about its current employment opportunities?
A robot took my job.
My GF bought it online,
lubed up, strapped in,
and 20 minutes later, I knew I'd been replaced.
Either way someone needs to make and design those robots so its just a shift on what education the next generation have to pursue.
Wow. Didn't expect such a stupid, evasive answer from Bill Nye. Sure, in our homes we may only automate as much as we find useful, but there are certainly more factors affecting automation in the wide world than Nye has given thought to. Even in our homes, it might be deemed psychologically cruel to allow a birth parent to be in charge of raising a child; society already takes your child away if you are deemed too unfit to care for the child. Is the future going to be like singing: most children but gradually learn that they're terrible compared to the professional's best recorded performance...and so most people stop singing. Already, Black Rock investments has been firing analysts in favor of computer algorithms - analysts! 500,000 American truckers are going to lose their jobs in the next 20 years, because we'll all demand that the most skilled operators (computers, that never get tired or angry) drive those 20 ton rigs down the road. But Nye is only aware of changes like stick-shift vs. automatic transmission. Sheesh.
You should've expected it, the guy's an idiot. He's been quoted as saying that AI will never pose a threat to us because we're the ones who designed them.
Bill Nye is such a chill guy
The progression of history is always much much more mundane than doomsday theorists will predict.
the answer is yes, robots and AI will take over pretty much everything - this includes everything from manufacturing to virtual media personalities in streaming video and even spouses
There was a time when most humans worked as farmers. Now machines handle much of the farm work. We still have jobs. The industrial revolution made it so one factory could produce a certain good for many cities full of people. It didn't end jobs. Wealth just increases, and people produce more things. Also, you have a few people managing the machines. We'll see the same thing with robot automation.
Wise answer to a not silly question... maybe we will become a mixture between scientist, philosopher and artist... who knows? Of course that implies a better redistribution of richness such as just for example a citizenship wage... I love robots, but how can I enjoy them if I cannot reach the month's end!
Electric mixer for pancake batter? Heavens no, Bill. Watch Good Eats my man.
what about money/employment?
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beautifully put
Automation is great for many vital industries, but it's getting kinda silly with some products. Like putting a hand sensor on a paper towel dispenser. So all you have to do is wave your hand in front of it and paper comes out. Of course this cost much more to produce with a tiny motor and electronics. Takes batteries and energy. Anyone with even a sliver of dexterity can easily just twist a mechanical hand nob to produce paper just as easy, and a chimpanzee can build the simple mechanism. Let's not get carried away with this sort of laziness.
That kid reminded me of Johnny Depp as Wonka in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Fear both oompaloompas and robots.
he shpuld have asked thos incredibly monumental quesfion for the future of our society of a smarter person
You're thinking small, Bill, cmon. The name of the channel is BIG Think, Mr. Nye! ahahahehae
just messin' with ya.
Luxis Spielberg agree
What the hell is he even attempting to ramble on about at the end about luggage and electric trains? He didn't even know what question was asked.
He obviously doesn't know that there is such thing as AI youtubers now... They are growing rather fast. And vocaloid is very popular in Japan. (Vocaloid is a program that makes human like vocals in songs) So yes, there is a chance that even youtubers and musicians could be replaced by AI.
the bulk of jobs historically has always been about manual labor, so automation IS a problem, when it comes to numbers. true, automation and probably AI in the next future will open up new jobs and positions BUT only for highly skilled and trained technicians and engineers. most jobs will be lost, as the need for very skilled and trained specialists does not match the number of potential workers, not even close. and when machines and automated systems will become much better and the cost will decrease even further, most manual and even some intellectual job will become obsolete. that's something that will require to completely rethink the basis of our modern society, because most people will become jobless.
I think that we'll all be hooked up to VR machines and fed soylent. We're a society of escapists.
I mean isn't that why we're all here? To be 'entertained' .. to get some Bill Nye childhood nostalgia and escape reality for a bit? sure we're learning in the process - but i think the majority of people are here for the personality Bill offers - beats reading random facts in boring yucky textbooks.
very wise man! love it!
Bill, your white background is very hard to watch in dark on a tablet. Could you switch to some other nice color? Nice video though.
With new self driving cars in the future will car chases the in movies still be the same
It would be cruel for a robot to have to do my job.
There are somethings a robot won't be able to do. Make art, "eye ball" measurement solve problems on the fly, go against the odds and into a situation and see past the obvious outcome. They won't won't beat our experience, instincts or "soul" for a lack of a better term. There will always be a need for man.
too many things to do in this world, universe and life for robots to take over human jobs.where whatever area the robots are occupying we will be doing something else to push our race towards our endless imagination and curiosity. many rivers to cross robots are just one instrument we design to help us
how do we send questions to bill nye? please help
As a forward thinking prize pickle farmer, I purchased a robot designed to test soil conditions. Sadly it immediately soiled itself and shamefully departed never to return.
I like Bill, but he did not answer the question at all...
1:33 cool and nice
The question we MUST answer before it gets that far, or we'll never get there... "Why should we pay someone to not work?" If technology replaces workers, we're either gonna have a lot of people with no jobs, or we've answered that question. We can't leave it up to the free market. The free market says we replace people and they starve. We need to answer that question now.
Yes but will wars still be fought with flesh and bones?
no, theyre called drones and they'll be rising up to eradicate us any day now as all jobs needed to create them are automated and they dont need us anymore, thus ending the age of flesh and bone.
good question
Well i have never seen Bill Nye and a robot in the same room, meaning ofcourse Bill Nye is an incredibly advanced robot :P
Sorry couldn´t help myself.
Erikjust laughing out loud.
sorry bill, you chose the wrong recipes. you can mix batter with a mixer, but then it will be smooth and the end result will be dense versus fluffly. these need to be mixed by hand, just till wet and still lumpy to be properly made
huge fan bill keep on keepin on and changin the WORLD
The failure was something to replace it. It was wefare program's that trapped people in economically depressed area's. We created generational welfare that drained the skill and drive of people's need to succeed and do better. The greatest mistake we ever made was not putting education first.
The poverty law center said if the bottom 20% do these things they have the best chance of getting out of poverty
1. Graduate from high school
2. Get the first job out of high school
3. Marry someone else who has graduated from high school.
4. Seek opportunities beyond high school get job training, going into an apprenticeship, get job certified or certification in a job field, go to a vocational/technical school, or community college.
I think the answer to this problem is education. A study by the White House determined that if you don't have your high school degree you are almost 50% likely to have your job automated.
If you graduate from high school your chances of your job being automated drop below 20%.
Final if you go beyond high school and go into an apprenticeship, job training, certification programs, vocational, technical, or community college your chance of your job being automated drops below 10%.
The answer is education, education, education.
We have 625 welfare programs they should be reorgazied around education.
1. If you lose your job for any reason you should be required to go back and get your high school diploma. If you have a high school diploma then you have to go to job training, apreantiships, get job certified/job certification, go to a vocational, technical, or community college.
Sub amendment:
Help people who just got a job at a small or midsize business to cover the cost of training employees, earning certificates to do the job, or completing apreantiships.
2.we should create a nation wide tudor program. These Tudor program will help homeless children learn basic math, english, reading, and writings skills. We will put them in homeless shelters, rural, and urban areas.
3. Federal funding to help support after school programs.
4. Pre K education. My nephew isn't even four yet and he can read at third grade level, spell, and do addition and subtraction.
We need to remake America like S. Korea where almost 100% of the population can read, write, do basic math, have graduated from high school. 69% have gone on to go to apreantiships, job training, certification programs, technical, vocational, and community college.
Another nation America should be like is Israel. Israel is boasting 140 scientists, technicians, and engineers per 10,000 employees, the highest number in the world. America is 85th by comparison.
So American must become the most educated nation in the world if you want to survive automation.
The question was: Is there a greater goal than doing a paid job. You answered a different question.
It would be very helpful if videos like this enables community contribution, it would be translated to many languages and your great message would reach to a wider audience, and this would - dare i say it - CHANGE THE WORLD !!
We deserve freedom robots can make our lives easier
God creates human and humans create robots.
How can we have freedom when we have no income to live.
Driving a stick shift is the only way to drive. Even the best performing most efficient cars are computer controlled manual transmissions (or Constantly variable transmissions) but the ultimate in driving won't occur until the computer takes over the rest of the driving process (as in self-driving vehicles) and at that point, the robot will replace the human in that capacity.
I like Bill a lot, but i think you dodged the question. A more suitable answer would have directly addressed the looming unemployment boom alluded to by the asker, and what we should hope society will do to accommodate the 80% (or more) of modern labor and repetitive service jobs that would no longer be necessary.
i like nye but this was a poor answer to the question. basically he was just saying machines are good when he SHOULD have been speculating on future HUMAN endeavors. what direction would humans go? would we become a lazy society? would we extinct ourselves? he ignored the question.
Is anybody looking into creating a planned transitional period mechanic in which people who's jobs can be replaced by robots can then be given a basic income instead that's proportional to the income the 'robot' is generating? This way society can 'ease into' a world in which the majority of jobs is automated without creating an enormous influx of poor people. Or are we just waiting to see what the steady increase in automation is slowly doing to society without trying to plan for it?
Value is created by people. I.e because people want stuff value is created. Robots don't have to want anything, except what we want. Keep that in mind when you're creating robotics policies, and we should be ok. I hope.
The real dilemma would arise when and if machines are able to hypothesize and come up with theories and proofs like Einstein.
But the SINGULARITY Bill!!
Having an unpaid voluntary conversation about robots is not a 'job' in the way most people would use that word.
20 bucks the guy asking the question is really a robot?
What happens when computers become sophisticated enough to answer complex questions of morality and philosophy with perfect logical consistency? What happens when a machine is invented which can scan your mind and improvise the most entertaining media you could possibly observe at the given moment? I wouldn't be so confident that there's any work free from the threat of machines taking over. Whether or not that's a bad thing, I'll leave it to you to decide.
Good answer Bill.
Just a thought.. my grandchildren probably won't be able to see labour-intensive production
Lolly Molly if you are under 60 you will have a chance of being immortal and not have to die until you want to
Hello Hello Exciting to hear that, I'm 18 XD
Aubrey de Grey is as far as I know the leading expert on medicine research against ageing. According to his own words we will reach longevity escape velocity by 2050 at the latest.
But what will we do by becoming immortal? This would be scary and boring
Lolly Molly whatever you want.. I'm 28 now and spend most of my time learning new things and watching new things from games to videos to stuff like this to interacting with other human beings via the internet.. we live in a cool age that keeps getting better
Have you considered the *wild* economic differences among classes and the fate of the invisible colonies of the First World? Automation is not only about thermostasts simplicity; it’s about politics, economics and unequality
I'm waiting for robots to start building robots.
Its called a factory
Way to avoid the answer
It's not about jobs it's about MONEY Here's the thing we have to figure out how to structure society where you can survive without manual labor
You still need to know how to drive a stick shift if you drive anywhere outside North America
*Please, people, research about Jacque Fresco and Resouce based economy. And make sure you watch at least 10 hours of his talks before you make your opinion about it*
10 hours before forming an opinion ? Are you crazy ? You have 20 minutes
Shoot man, I cleared my entire schedule for a month just so I could watch 320 hours worth of his talks. I still have no opinion about it.
The flaw in Bill's response is the assumption that these choices will rest within "our" hands, collectively. The most disruptive and damaging choices will be (as proven by the past) in the hands of those who profit most.
Robotics has has already emptied countless factories of their human employees. "Experts" claimed it would open up new jobs for engineers, programmers, etc. Obviously, those could never number more than a insignificant fraction of the number of people replaced. Most importantly, robots never need restrooms, lunch breaks, healthcare or vacation -- clearly a dream factory for today's CEOs.
And now, it's AI's turn to rapidly thin the ranks of those newly minted programmers and engineers. Do you still cling to the idea that some displaced factory workers simply went on to other jobs, like truck driving or fast-food? Sorry, autonomous transport is primed to replace drivers on all US Interstate routes in the blink of an eye. Autonomous fast-food restaurants are already being deployed.
So who will buy the factory's finished goods when they're machine-delivered to the robot-managed Amazon warehouse? Lots of people who receive a universal living wage. That's who.
At some point computers will definitely be better at thinking about computers.
Then with more down to Earth logic. Robotics cost many times less than workers, so of course they will be implemented to all jobs they are found fit to. Of course that means that the mayor nominators to currency's movement no longer create wealth for the workers. So that leaves a huge hole to our economic table. On average about 10-15% of worlds workers work on such establishments. So when they lose their jobs, they need to be found new working places. And since most need for workers are in certain countries, such as in Middle-Europe, that will change the population balances in some countries. Like Finland; we have too small birthrate in our whole country. That means more, not working older people are "born" every day. That means that highly educated people need to eventually find work in other countries that need highly educated workers. There goes Finland's educational, and therefore also monetary system. This can easily happen in too many countries if mechanizing (not mechanically mobilizing I mind you) happens in the most profitable way for important employing institutions.
More deep knowledge from Bill Nye the science dogma presenter guy.
3:09 he does weed xD
The world will need more theoreticians and counselors, and the most traditional fields will remain traditional.
But what about the rest of the people?
I prefer the stick shift man.
strong AI is very different from the previous industrial revolution in the sense that it will eliminate almost every superior aspect of human beings over machines. btw first to say first! does this count?
I doubt robots will ever replace cardiologists
Justin Mielke just wait and see buddy. they even started programe "Cicero" to replace the judiciary profession a.ka judge lawyers prosecutors. even the cops jokingly said they waiting the judge dredd era.
El cucuy yes but they can't improvise
is that his real voice? poor guy.
When machines take the jobs we will all be unnecessary to the ones at the top. What will we do to make money to live in the society we have made, once robots and technology make everyday humans obsolete.