I often set up a bus with a ping pong delay, I soften it a bunch with eq, and the strip the center out with the waves center plugin. Sometimes Ill widen the imagine with ozone. I then send certain tracks to it when creating more spacey and ambient tracks. But I am huge sucker for delays and ambient treatments in general.
also my go to delays in plugins are EchoBoy Jr and H delay!!! pedal wise is the Korg SDD 3000 and Eventide H9 and if I hit two amps Ill do a lil staggered analog delay on of the amps...
Using Melda MComb as delay and varying the time is a lot of fun, great for fx sounds, and of course a side chained compressor after the delay can avoid clashing sounds, high pass the delay
Depending on your intentions this doesn't have to be a bad thing. There are so many elements in music that are very hard to notice by themselves, but taken together have a huge effect on the listening experience.
In my first studio job in Nashville in 1978 the producer I was learning from used to say: “Just put some talent enhancer” on it. That meant crank up the EMT plate.
Fantastic video Warren! Thanks for sharing. Would love to see you do a short video specifically on panning, when to pan, why, when to go extreme pan, when to leave mono, etc.
I love the sidechaining tip! I’ve put delays on an aux channel and automated the send from a vocal or instrument to it at various points. But the side chain sounds brilliant!
Great, as always Warren! The one (maybe obvious to others...) for me was to sidechain and compress the delay! That REALLY makes a lot of sense (and cleaning up a lot of mud). Cheers!
you are the go to guy on youtubes for anything mix related. so clear concise, i find myself using alot of the things i seen in your videos and they work great. thanks for all the help!
I don't remember who showed this trick to me where you take a vocal and send it to three different delay with each representing low, mids and highs its sounded pretty amazing.
A good example of a song using delay techniques, I really admire the vocal mix of, is especially by The Interrupters - Get Down Moses (Joe Strummer cover) You've given me an insight of how I might go about achieving the same results. This song has bags of what you're talking about. Thank you for showing me how.
When I finally start making some money off my music I'm going to have to write Warren a check for all the amazing mixing and recording tips I've gained. Really brother - thank you.
Skip to 00:58 to start the list. 1.) Know when to use EQ in the delay. No need for double "Ts", or other pings. Perhaps add a desser to the chain. 2.) Know when to not use delay, and reverb instead. Try reverb after delay instead on additional delays. 3.) Know when delay should be in-time, or out of time. 4.) Panning delay: not every track needs to be in stereo. 5.) Use automation. 6.) Use side chaining.
I have the supertap in a bundle but never used it before, or had any idea how...was not expecting to see it in here, but wow, huge help! The EQ trick with a delay makes a lot of sense, I end up using the delays you can EQ within the plugin. This makes...sense..
in the case, my only mistake was thinking that delays had to be on time, and that the younger me starting out that had no clue how to use delay was actually right since all i did was tweak it until it sounded good.
Mistakes we all make? How very dare you. 😁😁 I'll have you know I was messing up delay when you were knee-high to a grasshopper. 😁 Thanks for this Warren, I will use these tips for sure. Danny.
"You end up creating a lot of delays when you actually need a reverb." My favorite thing to do is to actually feed my delays into reverbs. I also really like to automate the panning of delays, as transitional effects.
The point about rolling off the highs is a really good one. I still like my old MXR analog delay and I think it's for that reason. Bucket brigade delays get muddier on evey repeat.
@@Producelikeapro Killer! What about a video on sax/vocal reverbs and delays.? I use like 3 delays and 4 reverbs but have no real clue! But I am learning from you!
there's this plugin called propane that allows you to control the mid and sides of whatever you slap it to. you can use it to play with your reverbs and delays to really clean them up and fix them into their own space.
My favourite delay fail is cheap "stereo" delay pedals that feed the echo to one side and an invertion to the other. The guitarist gets very embarrassed when doing a mono check in the studio and they get instantly transformed from The Edge to the lesser half of the duelling banjos! Actually, it's not just cheap pedals, the Korg REMS effects from years ago had that fail.
I have a LOT of trouble with what you said about feeling like I need to balance things out in the left and right to be symmetrical. Can you do a video about how to deal with that? I have a hard time really deciding when I do and don't need to make things perfectly symmetrical. Which is weird, because I personally love hearing the little details in a mix such as the things that are say: just in the background almost fully panned on one side etc. I love those creative details, but I find it very difficult to "allow" myself to do those kinds of things without feeling like I need to balance it out on the other side.
Warren - as a big-boy mix newbie, my next side chain will be my first. However, I think you’ve emboldened me with tip #6 to go ahead and finally break the ice; what a difference it made on that (now quite familiar) track. Thanks!
Great Video! I can watch your videos 27/4 :-) What delay mistakes I make? Well you name any, I do it one way or another :-) Thanks for this great Video
Great tips. I think I'm going to go and have a play with it this evening. I need to get my head around side chaining a compressor. Where and how to do it. I know what it does, need to know the specifics in Pro Tools. Thanks.
Could you (or have you already done) a video on panning to get a balanced stereo image? Eg. Intresting places to put B.V reverb or placing a stereo micd piano in a mix with out getting in the way of anything else? Thanks, hope you're marvellously well!
Reverse a delayed sound can also be fun, you can of course reverse the sound first, then you will get a build up, but you can also achieve that other ways
Hey Warren! Love your videos, very educational and fun to watch. I have one question about the recording phase, when we track instruments on different days and have time in between to do any changes to the session. What is your take on the "rough mix" of, let's say, drums and bass before you track guitars? Are you doing only editing or are you applying any other techniques like compression or EQ to help you decide what kind of guitar or other instrument sound will you need in the final version of the song? Thank you again for all the tips and tricks, you're awesome! Maj
At first glance, I thought the title said "Six Deadly Mistakes We All Make." Thought, "Wow, audio engineering is getting downright hazardous these days!"
Thank you Warren! Currently working on my own song (it's a bit country like with a Johnny Cash rhythm and slap delay) and especially the automation may work wonders. Like you said: it gets boring mixing only 1 verse/chorus and listen to the song. Despite instruments coming in and out, automation of delays can make it more interesting! I'm still in the recording phase, but it's good to think about these things. I assume this is production stuff or would you consider it mixing? Btw: I loooooove distorting delays, sidechained delays and delays that are not in time!!!
Wait - what was that last point? He sent a clean vocal to compressor side chain and the compressor was compressing the delay track? Was that it? I failed to understand that last one. Brilliant track - brilliant sound. Those drums & bass kinda totally stole my attention :D
Delay into reverb for “real” sound Reverb into delay for “cloudy”, magical sound Flanger/chorus into delay to put it into a different space Pitch shift delays, especially stereo ones (eg, left -6 cents, right +6 cents) Put extra time on one side vs the other (eg, left 1/8 note, right 1/8 note plus 10 milliseconds)
Hey Warren🙂 Do you offer this song for download? Think it's really cool! 😉 that you can practice a little would like to mix the song yourself 😉 I think it's really cool what you do and how you show people how to improve the mixes! Good job where you do. Especially your joy where you have is really contagious! Thank you 🙏👍🕺 Greetings from switzerland
Warren has this song and lots of others for his Academy members! Some of the songs are available to anyone. I'm not sure on this one though. The name of the song is "Golden" by We Were Astronauts
What is your favorite delay trick?
use echoboy
I often set up a bus with a ping pong delay, I soften it a bunch with eq, and the strip the center out with the waves center plugin. Sometimes Ill widen the imagine with ozone. I then send certain tracks to it when creating more spacey and ambient tracks. But I am huge sucker for delays and ambient treatments in general.
also my go to delays in plugins are EchoBoy Jr and H delay!!!
pedal wise is the Korg SDD 3000 and Eventide H9 and if I hit two amps Ill do a lil staggered analog delay on of the amps...
Using a delay or reverb only on the left or right channel, also using some eq.
Using Melda MComb as delay and varying the time is a lot of fun, great for fx sounds, and of course a side chained compressor after the delay can avoid clashing sounds, high pass the delay
I think I've made far more than six delay mistakes over the years! :)
Haha yes, I left the extra 000,000 off! That would be a looonnnnnnggggg video!
You certainly learned a lot with those mistakes, because your mixes sound great !
nice ice ice ice ice....
The master never stops learning.
My *least* favourite delay trick is the one where I procrastinate and delay recording my songs.
Budum crashhhh!
Well timed.
But yes, true.
Haha I hear you Ken!! We've ALL been there!
@@willb1157 well timed!! Ha
😂
Just keep dialing back the time knob, you'll get there! :))
My favourite delay trick is spending 5 hours on a delay and when showing the mix to someone they don't even notice it lol
YES!!! I know that one!
Depending on your intentions this doesn't have to be a bad thing. There are so many elements in music that are very hard to notice by themselves, but taken together have a huge effect on the listening experience.
In my first studio job in Nashville in 1978 the producer I was learning from used to say: “Just put some talent enhancer” on it. That meant crank up the EMT plate.
Thanks ever so much for sharing Scott!
This video came out at the perfect time 🙏
Glad to be able to help Michael!
you could say... without delay
@@ttookkyyoo badda boom!
I really like the idea of sidechaining the delay after the vocals. Never would have thought of that. Thanks!
Fantastic! I’m glad to be able to help!
Great advice on panning and stereo!!!!
“Sleezier and Slinkier” this what I always strive for 😂👽💜🎶🙏🏽. Killer video !!!
Haha thanks STATIC! You Rock!!
Always interesting, always learning. Thank you Warren.
Thanks ever so much!
As an alternative to a compressor for sidechain - I sometimes use a dynamic EQ to dip 700Hz-3/5K on the delay instead
Sidechain delays using a compressor-->What a time saver-Thanks Warren!
Happy to help!
Fantastic video Warren! Thanks for sharing. Would love to see you do a short video specifically on panning, when to pan, why, when to go extreme pan, when to leave mono, etc.
I love the sidechaining tip! I’ve put delays on an aux channel and automated the send from a vocal or instrument to it at various points. But the side chain sounds brilliant!
You're very welcome Andy!!
Great, as always Warren! The one (maybe obvious to others...) for me was to sidechain and compress the delay! That REALLY makes a lot of sense (and cleaning up a lot of mud). Cheers!
you are the go to guy on youtubes for anything mix related. so clear concise, i find myself using alot of the things i seen in your videos and they work great. thanks for all the help!
This man cant do bad videos,instant like and then watch with pleasure!
You're too kind!
Excellent pointers, thanks much for the tutorial.
I probably would never have realized to eq the Delay on vocals. Great video! 🤘
I don't remember who showed this trick to me where you take a vocal and send it to three different delay with each representing low, mids and highs its sounded pretty amazing.
I do something with reverbs, learnt it from Alan Meyerson
A good example of a song using delay techniques, I really admire the vocal mix of, is especially by The Interrupters - Get Down Moses (Joe Strummer cover)
You've given me an insight of how I might go about achieving the same results. This song has bags of what you're talking about. Thank you for showing me how.
Great video as always. I always like to roll the top off my delays and reverbs too. 😀👍🏻
For vocal delays I mostly use tape delay simulations. Their natural smoothness funktions as a built-in de-esser.
Absolutely! Great tip!!
Ever since I got into Wintersun, I started seeing you everywhere on RUclips
@@thimovijfschaft3271 guess we have similar interests 😄
When I finally start making some money off my music I'm going to have to write Warren a check for all the amazing mixing and recording tips I've gained. Really brother - thank you.
Wow! You're far too kind Jay! Thanks ever so much!!
Thank you very much Warren.
Love the points about sidechaining the delay and reducing the highs. Thanks Warren.
Skip to 00:58 to start the list.
1.) Know when to use EQ in the delay. No need for double "Ts", or other pings. Perhaps add a desser to the chain.
2.) Know when to not use delay, and reverb instead. Try reverb after delay instead on additional delays.
3.) Know when delay should be in-time, or out of time.
4.) Panning delay: not every track needs to be in stereo.
5.) Use automation.
6.) Use side chaining.
Thank you Warren!!
I have the supertap in a bundle but never used it before, or had any idea how...was not expecting to see it in here, but wow, huge help! The EQ trick with a delay makes a lot of sense, I end up using the delays you can EQ within the plugin. This makes...sense..
This is a gem... Thanks.
Thanks ever so much
These are great, all once knew and some forgotten about so thanks for the reminder of these techniques
I sidechain compress and eq my vocal delays, but I've never thought of putting a deesser in front. That's one I'll definitely try now!
Fantastic! Glad to be able to help!
Thank you so much Warren! You always have the best tips
Detail, automation, nuance = Underground Techno.
Nice!!
You inspire me, Warren!
Thank you! Very helpful
You're very welcome Laura!
Spot on again! Love ya Warren!
Thanks ever so much
Hey man, it is certain that no matter what, we all make mistakes sometimes! A really excellent video indeed!
I always do! Always will!
@@Producelikeapro Haha, same here!
Thank you❣️
Thank YOU!
in the case, my only mistake was thinking that delays had to be on time, and that the younger me starting out that had no clue how to use delay was actually right since all i did was tweak it until it sounded good.
We've all been there my friend!! Still learning every day! Never stop learning!
Warren you're the top of the tops of the tops🙌 Thaaaank you
Thanks Bruno!
thanks for the compressor sidechain trick! I never thought about this!
Hi John! Happy to help!
go-to tips again! thanks
Recently got Audient sono and got one of your mixing course it was awesome. Thanks allot!!!
I really need to start watching my notified PLAP videos BEFORE I start working.
Happy to help in any way I can!!
Such a helpful video, thaks.
Super timely. This definitely reminds me not to be lazy with my delays!
Mistakes we all make? How very dare you. 😁😁 I'll have you know I was messing up delay when you were knee-high to a grasshopper. 😁 Thanks for this Warren, I will use these tips for sure. Danny.
Hi Danny, well of course I know you don't make any mistakes! Haha Just myself! Thanks ever so much for thengreat comment!
Just amazing sir, started recording our new song and doing every bit possible to make it sound good by watching your videos....😊😊😊🔥🔥
Wow! Thanks ever so much my friend!!
Love your endless enthusiasm Warren. Your favourite Phil from Basingstoke :-)
Thanks Phil from Basingstoke!
Hi Warren, fantastic content, really helpful, Thank you, all the best.
Hi Darren! Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome !! Thanks Warren 🤘
You're very welcome!!
great tutorial! profuse thanks! Extremely informative!!
Thanks ever so much
Loved trick #6. I'm going to have to start thinking about other places to use the sidechain compressor trick.
Great 👌 thanks!
I believe I made to many delay mistakes lol. But I love your videos they are very informative and they help me with my mixing and master whoo whoo!!
helpful as always♥️much love from germanyyy
Awesome! Thank you!
"You end up creating a lot of delays when you actually need a reverb."
My favorite thing to do is to actually feed my delays into reverbs.
I also really like to automate the panning of delays, as transitional effects.
The point about rolling off the highs is a really good one. I still like my old MXR analog delay and I think it's for that reason. Bucket brigade delays get muddier on evey repeat.
Thanks ever so much for sharing!!
Title sounds great Warren! Very curious which mistakes it are :) , looking forward watching the video
you rock man!
Jazz Duets....no, you rock or should I say you jazz. I love your stuff!
Wow!! Thanks ever so much Jazz Duets! Love your channel!!
@@bro7269 agreed 100%!!
@@Producelikeapro Killer! What about a video on sax/vocal reverbs and delays.? I use like 3 delays and 4 reverbs but have no real clue! But I am learning from you!
Thanks again for a great video Be safe and skilful. Pinge
I've always thought my delay settings were off... Thank you for this video, it was a revelation.
Hi Andrew! Glad it was helpful!
Thanks a lot. Very interesting and inspiring !
Great Vid! Bobby didn't show me that one!
there's this plugin called propane that allows you to control the mid and sides of whatever you slap it to. you can use it to play with your reverbs and delays to really clean them up and fix them into their own space.
Thanks ever so much for the tip!
Great...
Thanks ever so much!
My favourite delay fail is cheap "stereo" delay pedals that feed the echo to one side and an invertion to the other. The guitarist gets very embarrassed when doing a mono check in the studio and they get instantly transformed from The Edge to the lesser half of the duelling banjos!
Actually, it's not just cheap pedals, the Korg REMS effects from years ago had that fail.
I love clack-womp delay. I keep an old Maxon AD100 on hand for big warm bucket brigade clack-womp.
always good stuff!
Thanks ever so much Mike!!
I have a LOT of trouble with what you said about feeling like I need to balance things out in the left and right to be symmetrical. Can you do a video about how to deal with that? I have a hard time really deciding when I do and don't need to make things perfectly symmetrical. Which is weird, because I personally love hearing the little details in a mix such as the things that are say: just in the background almost fully panned on one side etc. I love those creative details, but I find it very difficult to "allow" myself to do those kinds of things without feeling like I need to balance it out on the other side.
Warren - as a big-boy mix newbie, my next side chain will be my first. However, I think you’ve emboldened me with tip #6 to go ahead and finally break the ice; what a difference it made on that (now quite familiar) track. Thanks!
Great Video! I can watch your videos 27/4 :-) What delay mistakes I make? Well you name any, I do it one way or another :-) Thanks for this great Video
Glad you like them! Thanks ever so much!
Hey. You're a good engineer.
Thanks ever so much!
this is crazy making
Was I the only one who, when Warren said, "is it reverb you're looking for?" went, "Hello..." (in my best Lionel Richie voice)?
Haha maybe? However, I like that idea! Haha
Ah the good old delay - can be your greatest friend or worst enemy!!
Great tips. I think I'm going to go and have a play with it this evening. I need to get my head around side chaining a compressor. Where and how to do it. I know what it does, need to know the specifics in Pro Tools.
Thanks.
Love from iran
Thanks Ali!!
Could you (or have you already done) a video on panning to get a balanced stereo image? Eg. Intresting places to put B.V reverb or placing a stereo micd piano in a mix with out getting in the way of anything else? Thanks, hope you're marvellously well!
Reverse a delayed sound can also be fun, you can of course reverse the sound first, then you will get a build up, but you can also achieve that other ways
Wow I'm guilty of 4 of them haha but that's part of the learning process, thanks for another helpful video!!!!
Haha I hear you! I’m guilty of all of them! Good for us to remember these things!
Hey Warren! Love your videos, very educational and fun to watch.
I have one question about the recording phase, when we track instruments on different days and have time in between to do any changes to the session. What is your take on the "rough mix" of, let's say, drums and bass before you track guitars? Are you doing only editing or are you applying any other techniques like compression or EQ to help you decide what kind of guitar or other instrument sound will you need in the final version of the song?
Thank you again for all the tips and tricks, you're awesome! Maj
I’m stealing these tips 😁
Please do Azi!!
At first glance, I thought the title said "Six Deadly Mistakes We All Make." Thought, "Wow, audio engineering is getting downright hazardous these days!"
Haha funny!!
Can you explain that sidechain delay thing more in depth in another video?
The guitar reminds me of A Flock Of Seagulls - Space Age Love Song which is a good thing.
Thank you Warren! Currently working on my own song (it's a bit country like with a Johnny Cash rhythm and slap delay) and especially the automation may work wonders. Like you said: it gets boring mixing only 1 verse/chorus and listen to the song. Despite instruments coming in and out, automation of delays can make it more interesting!
I'm still in the recording phase, but it's good to think about these things. I assume this is production stuff or would you consider it mixing?
Btw: I loooooove distorting delays, sidechained delays and delays that are not in time!!!
Wait - what was that last point? He sent a clean vocal to compressor side chain and the compressor was compressing the delay track? Was that it? I failed to understand that last one. Brilliant track - brilliant sound. Those drums & bass kinda totally stole my attention :D
7:07 Sounds a bit like Beethoven's 5th!
Delay into reverb for “real” sound
Reverb into delay for “cloudy”, magical sound
Flanger/chorus into delay to put it into a different space
Pitch shift delays, especially stereo ones (eg, left -6 cents, right +6 cents)
Put extra time on one side vs the other (eg, left 1/8 note, right 1/8 note plus 10 milliseconds)
I don't believe I've ever eq'ed a delay. I'm gonna have to try that along with a little more wrongifying heehee. Thanks!
Yes! You will now my friend I'm sure! Thanks Anita!
@@Producelikeapro I did...earlier...on two separate sessions heehee.
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"When to pan and when not to pan" Well that is the question - Sometimes you can do both!
Exactly Jens!!
I almost always distort my delays. I'll also sometimes pitch shift them, if only a few cents.
Very nice!!
No.7 comes to Warren’s signature trick, trash it and blend it back. In, lol
Haha yes, indeed Kevin!
I can't handle anymore 😪
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Hey Warren🙂
Do you offer this song for download? Think it's really cool! 😉
that you can practice a little would like to mix the song yourself 😉
I think it's really cool what you do and how you show people how to improve the mixes! Good job where you do. Especially your joy where you have is really contagious!
Thank you 🙏👍🕺
Greetings from switzerland
Yes this song is in the Academy. Join us!
Warren has this song and lots of others for his Academy members! Some of the songs are available to anyone. I'm not sure on this one though. The name of the song is "Golden" by We Were Astronauts
Thanks for the Massage! 🙏
I dig this song....who is the artist?