Nice review. I just ordered a Carbon Rival (steel receiver) in .300 Win Mag... one of my life goals is to harvest a bull elk once I am out of the Navy, and this rifle will help me get there.
You can never go wrong with Fierce rifles! In my 60 years of hunting and collecting rifles and having owned almost all high end rifles the Fierce is the Best Buy out there for what your paying for period! I have Sako’s, Winchesters, Brownings, Christensen arms, Nosler 48 rifles!
I’m absolutely shocked with that expensive of a rifle they don’t at least put a dab of epoxy in the recoil lug cutout in the stock. Literally would take no time.
@Bullets4Bucks I was that close to buy Howa Carbon elevate with sub MOA guarantee. Watched your other video on Howa MDX chassis 800+ yards but now confused on CT Rival vs Howa Carbon elevate. CT Rival gives half MOA guarantee at 100 yards and Howa Carbon elevate gives sub MOA guarantee. How do these compare practically. Same ? or Fierce CT Rival is better. Looking for 6.5 PRC for hunting and entry level LR PRS. Would appreciate your input based on your experience. Thanks
@TK, I bought a 6.5 PRC CT Rival 22" in Aug 2021. Simply put... it's amazing. Its not the most expensive bolt action I have but it is the most consistent at 200yds 5-shot groups with no brake . The action is epoxied in the stock with aluminum pillars. I havent shot the Howa but at first glance, the CT Rival's LRS stock is textured (thick sponge-paint) nicely where the Howa's hunter stock is smooth (texture is better). The CT Rival's included picatinny rail and QD cups are items every mfg needs to make standard. FWIW, I had to send it back for warranty work and Fierce sent the original receiver back with all new parts attached. New stock, Triggertech trigger, bottom metal, bolt, barrel, and muzzle brake. The gunsmith (Sam) completed a warranty form with everything he replaced, re-cerakoted and hand-fit including hand-lapping the new barrel. He also sent a new target with 3 shots at .381" using Hornady ELD-X 143gr. So, am I happy with the rifle and Fierce's customer service? Yes! This summer I'll probably buy another CT Rival in 6CM or 6.5CM for my daughter.
It's not necessarily just about the strength of the foundation it's also about the glove like fit. Glass bedding it means that you get a perfect glove like fit and better contact again the reciever.
I’m confused. How do they provide a target with a 3-shot group under .5 moa and you got a 1.5 moa with the same load? I was told by Hornady that those 225 gr ELD Match bullets require a 1:8 twist rate 🧐 I have a Fierce Carbon Rogue producing 1.5 moa groups at 100 yards with those bullets 🤮 I’m going to try the 212’s ELD Precision hunters to see if it likes those better, or I’ll send it back for failing their .75 MOA
@@jamessammann9183 FYI, I sent mine twice to Fierce and they never made it shoot consistently. I paid Short Action Customs to find out what the issue was and fix it. They skim bedded the action and it shoots great now. If you buy a Fierce, take it apart and make sure their spot bedding in the recoil lug area is good and if not, send it back and make them bed it correctly before you waste your money and time trying to get it to shoot with any consistency.
@@jamessammann9183 Short Action Customer service is great. I also had them true a weatherby vanguard action, they basically built a custom rifle for me, I have yet to take that Vanguard to the range. Going back to the Fierce, yes I get .4-.75 moa consistently with badlands precision bulldozer-2 195 gr bullets, H1000, Fed 215 and lapua brass. Speeds are at 3020.
Really wonder how this compares to a Springfield waypoint or Bergara Divide. All 3 seem to be a very similar design and price. Definitely be working at getting one of them eventually, not a cheap rifle
Fierce BLOWS! I had an absolute nightmare from them. They claim to be a custom gun builder. I pieced together a $5k CT Edge which they missed the completion date by 6 months. The barrel wasn’t free floating, the gun was not in the correct color pattern which was suppose to be midnight with OD Green added (the only custom part about the gun the color of the stock they couldn’t do) the brake was not level and I did not get a shot confirmation card which is standard with the edge. I had to send the firearm back. They still couldn’t do the color I wanted I had to pick a factory standard color and this time they sent the gun back without parts that I ordered and paid for. Does this sound like a $5k custom gun to you? These are not custom guns they are factory and you think my experience is unique? Look around the internet it’s littered with stories just like mine. Do yourself a favor and stay far away from fierce and spend your money on a legit firearm
Maybe the gun is a tac driver. I don’t know I have yet to shoot the gun and I just received it. This is not a complaint about whether the gun performs. Customer service though? Is some of the worst I wouldn’t expect this many issues with a $1500 gun much less what I spent. I wanted to love fierce I really did. I spent a lot of time researching and decided to build a gun through them. Two missed hunts later as the gun was not complete in time for a spring bear hunt I ordered the gun for and then my elk hunt that next fall which it still was not complete and this many issues? Now missing equipment I paid for that was on the rifle I sent back to be corrected and not on the rifle I received I am just over it. Spend some time on any of the hunting or shooting forums and you will see countless posts of people with similar issues and terrible customer service. Customer service is just as important as the product. In my opinion spend the money somewhere else where they care about customer service and not just taking purchase orders
@Bullets4Bucks I called them, but they don't. I want one but not going to pay 3 grand to have to spend another 800 for the stick I want. Then I mide as well just get a moa rifle, which is the way I'm leaning.
I have fierce rival 7mm prc. Tikka shoots just ass good, and my sake shoots better. It's way too much for what you get. It will shoot .5 in 1 of 5 groups, which meats the guarantee. It avrages closer to 3/4 7/8 inch groups
@Bullets4Bucks The prc is a rival. My bad, but you can buy a pre fit barrel for your Tikka. Hopefully, Tikka will step up in the world and start keeping up with the world.
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Nice review. I just ordered a Carbon Rival (steel receiver) in .300 Win Mag... one of my life goals is to harvest a bull elk once I am out of the Navy, and this rifle will help me get there.
You can never go wrong with Fierce rifles! In my 60 years of hunting and collecting rifles and having owned almost all high end rifles the Fierce is the Best Buy out there for what your paying for period! I have Sako’s, Winchesters, Brownings, Christensen arms, Nosler 48 rifles!
They are great
Solid review. Just ordered CT rival in 7PRC
Sweet
I’m absolutely shocked with that expensive of a rifle they don’t at least put a dab of epoxy in the recoil lug cutout in the stock. Literally would take no time.
Looking at the Carbon Rival XP in 7 PRC. They look pretty nice.
They are
@Bullets4Bucks I was that close to buy Howa Carbon elevate with sub MOA guarantee. Watched your other video on Howa MDX chassis 800+ yards but now confused on CT Rival vs Howa Carbon elevate. CT Rival gives half MOA guarantee at 100 yards and Howa Carbon elevate gives sub MOA guarantee. How do these compare practically. Same ? or Fierce CT Rival is better. Looking for 6.5 PRC for hunting and entry level LR PRS. Would appreciate your input based on your experience. Thanks
@TK, I bought a 6.5 PRC CT Rival 22" in Aug 2021. Simply put... it's amazing. Its not the most expensive bolt action I have but it is the most consistent at 200yds 5-shot groups with no brake . The action is epoxied in the stock with aluminum pillars. I havent shot the Howa but at first glance, the CT Rival's LRS stock is textured (thick sponge-paint) nicely where the Howa's hunter stock is smooth (texture is better). The CT Rival's included picatinny rail and QD cups are items every mfg needs to make standard. FWIW, I had to send it back for warranty work and Fierce sent the original receiver back with all new parts attached. New stock, Triggertech trigger, bottom metal, bolt, barrel, and muzzle brake. The gunsmith (Sam) completed a warranty form with everything he replaced, re-cerakoted and hand-fit including hand-lapping the new barrel. He also sent a new target with 3 shots at .381" using Hornady ELD-X 143gr. So, am I happy with the rifle and Fierce's customer service? Yes! This summer I'll probably buy another CT Rival in 6CM or 6.5CM for my daughter.
In a carbon fiber stock I’m trying to understand how epoxy would “bed” the receiver? My understanding is the carbon fiber composite would be stronger.
It's not necessarily just about the strength of the foundation it's also about the glove like fit. Glass bedding it means that you get a perfect glove like fit and better contact again the reciever.
I’m confused. How do they provide a target with a 3-shot group under .5 moa and you got a 1.5 moa with the same load? I was told by Hornady that those 225 gr ELD Match bullets require a 1:8 twist rate 🧐 I have a Fierce Carbon Rogue producing 1.5 moa groups at 100 yards with those bullets 🤮 I’m going to try the 212’s ELD Precision hunters to see if it likes those better, or I’ll send it back for failing their .75 MOA
I.was looking at firce carbon Rouge also good to know
@@jamessammann9183 FYI, I sent mine twice to Fierce and they never made it shoot consistently. I paid Short Action Customs to find out what the issue was and fix it. They skim bedded the action and it shoots great now. If you buy a Fierce, take it apart and make sure their spot bedding in the recoil lug area is good and if not, send it back and make them bed it correctly before you waste your money and time trying to get it to shoot with any consistency.
@ArpexOfficial how is there customer service are u getting under moa now
@@jamessammann9183 Short Action Customer service is great. I also had them true a weatherby vanguard action, they basically built a custom rifle for me, I have yet to take that Vanguard to the range. Going back to the Fierce, yes I get .4-.75 moa consistently with badlands precision bulldozer-2 195 gr bullets, H1000, Fed 215 and lapua brass. Speeds are at 3020.
@ArpexOfficial good deal ..lots of money for that gun I'm shooting a rem 700 that is blueprint in 7prc that shoots .30 groups
@Bullets4Bucks I was wondering what you thought of the titanium action? Was it sticky enough that you would prefer the steel?
It's smooth and I like it
@@Bullets4Bucks I just ordered one with a titanium action. Do you do any thing extra to keep it smooth, extra oil etc?
@@kurtlarsen279 not really just keep it clean
How accurate is it? I love to have one if it’s pretty accurate for shooting and hunting with!
Would you call the company tomorrow and have them teach you how to pronounce the name?….. great review, but you just change the name of it.
Really wonder how this compares to a Springfield waypoint or Bergara Divide. All 3 seem to be a very similar design and price. Definitely be working at getting one of them eventually, not a cheap rifle
Comparison videos coming. I got a waypoint
@@Bullets4Bucks have you compared the 2 yet? I LOVE the Waypoint, how does this compare ?
@@1776carpediem not yet. It's in the works
@Bullets4Bucks can't wait love to have a 7prc in waypoimt also like det mag. Firce has floorplate
What camouflage pattern is this because I don't see it offered on their website. Also did you hear anything about a magnum waypoint at shotshow?
Kuik color got that color on my savage 6.5prc
I just bought a carbon rival and have a 50mm vortex scope that I still need to put on so was wondering what hight scope rings you used?
Medium
Fierce BLOWS! I had an absolute nightmare from them. They claim to be a custom gun builder. I pieced together a $5k CT Edge which they missed the completion date by 6 months.
The barrel wasn’t free floating, the gun was not in the correct color pattern which was suppose to be midnight with OD Green added (the only custom part about the gun the color of the stock they couldn’t do) the brake was not level and I did not get a shot confirmation card which is standard with the edge. I had to send the firearm back. They still couldn’t do the color I wanted I had to pick a factory standard color and this time they sent the gun back without parts that I ordered and paid for. Does this sound like a $5k custom gun to you?
These are not custom guns they are factory and you think my experience is unique? Look around the internet it’s littered with stories just like mine. Do yourself a favor and stay far away from fierce and spend your money on a legit firearm
Interesting. I like mine
Maybe the gun is a tac driver. I don’t know I have yet to shoot the gun and I just received it. This is not a complaint about whether the gun performs. Customer service though? Is some of the worst I wouldn’t expect this many issues with a $1500 gun much less what I spent. I wanted to love fierce I really did. I spent a lot of time researching and decided to build a gun through them. Two missed hunts later as the gun was not complete in time for a spring bear hunt I ordered the gun for and then my elk hunt that next fall which it still was not complete and this many issues? Now missing equipment I paid for that was on the rifle I sent back to be corrected and not on the rifle I received I am just over it. Spend some time on any of the hunting or shooting forums and you will see countless posts of people with similar issues and terrible customer service. Customer service is just as important as the product. In my opinion spend the money somewhere else where they care about customer service and not just taking purchase orders
I want that exact gun.
Looks good b4b
Great Review 👍
Thanks
Is the fierce rage a good rifle? Haven't seen any reviews of it yet.
Seems it. I have felt one but not shot
By the way, Awsome Rifle
Thanks
What kind of tripod is that? It looks nice.
Mdt grnd bipod
Death Grip tripod in the studio
No where near as smooth as a Tikka or sako we are talking day and night difference and the trigger same as Tikka
just ordered the new Rouge in 22 Creedmore!👍
😋
Wish they would put that stock on the rage but they don't do that.
They might do it to order
@Bullets4Bucks I called them, but they don't. I want one but not going to pay 3 grand to have to spend another 800 for the stick I want. Then I mide as well just get a moa rifle, which is the way I'm leaning.
How do you do a review without the price
On purpose. RUclips cracks down on gun reviews that include pricing...
I have fierce rival 7mm prc. Tikka shoots just ass good, and my sake shoots better. It's way too much for what you get. It will shoot .5 in 1 of 5 groups, which meats the guarantee. It avrages closer to 3/4 7/8 inch groups
How did you get a 7prc tikka?
@Bullets4Bucks The prc is a rival. My bad, but you can buy a pre fit barrel for your Tikka. Hopefully, Tikka will step up in the world and start keeping up with the world.
It is a sloppy fit you take the bolts out that action will move all over the place
Its awesome but expensive :/
Only with the CT the rival doesn't come with any of that
What are you calling if? lol
Price?
Lots
3k
sorry, had to stop video when I realized he was unable to read the English language!! bye!
Lol
But I wasn't reading