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Tips to Tell a Fake Antique Doll | *Is my antique doll a REAL antique?*
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2018
- In this video, we chat with Linda Wall who is an antique doll reproduction artisan about fakes, forgeries, and fantasy dolls that were made and distributed by unscrupulous people to defraud unsuspecting collectors. We learn a lot from Linda's tips and see some really good fakes.
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Aw bless Linda, "i've never done this before". What a darling she is! Loved the video, thank you.
Thanks so much for watching!
The best advice is don't buy a doll (or anything in the art/jewelry world) _unless_ you're in love with it!🥰
22:00 Also take a look inside the doll and look for cracks. It is also possible it is an antique that broke.
The person who restores it might not get all the details 100% perfect.
2023 very interesting class! Thank u Linda & Rachel!
So insightful Rachel. Thank you for bringing this to light. It’s so hard trying to figure out if some are antique or reproduction. As there are some talent doll artist. Side note, you and I have the same scar on our chest. Thanks for the hard work you do!
Thank you so much!
Dakota Craft l
Very interesting, thank you Rachel & Linda.
You are welcome! Thank you for tuning in!
I love the background of the workshop in the background, awesome stuff going on. As a maker of porcelain dolls, reborn and all manner of stuff love your educational programme...x
Awesome! Thank you!
I've been collecting dolls basically my whole life. I'm in my 50s and still there are occasionally dolls that will make me second-guess myself. I tend to stay with middle-of-the-road German and French bisques, with a few modest French fashions, and in the past decade I've seen mold numbers and even body styles (true antiques) that I never saw when I first started collecting. There really is a steep learning curve in doll collecting. Still the hobby has come a LONG way in terms of our knowledge and in striving for greater authenticity in costuming.
I collect much more recent dolls (from the 80s & 90s) but this was so interesting. Thank you for sharing your lovely dolls! I love their character & expressions! 💖
Thanks for watching!
I’ve got a 24” porcelain doll made by Donna Rubert, I purchased her from the antique shop in my hometown but I purchased her because she felt lonely and sad, people ignored her. I know that sounds crazy
A BIG THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU for this very educational video!
Goodness, I fall for fake antiques before. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks for watching!
even Theriaults have been fooled. I remember a very early wooden doll that sold for a small fortune and later the artist herself recognized the doll she had created! I mean this doll sold for a lot - At least 25,000 may have been way more (just a guess from memory) was of course amazingly preserved! from what I know the artist contacted Theriaults and told them and they no doubt contacted the buyer. I wonder how they worked that one out.
I remember when that happened, and I felt for everyone involved. It happens to everyone at some point. I think it was returned, refund given, and as I remember, they handled it professionally and transparently.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls the doll was signed originally, you would think someone would find it. I'm sure the buyer misses that doll! was a lovely artist made doll and very well done antique look. But it must have been a big shock. So much excitement of bidding and getting such a very rare doll.
These dolls must have been very top quality back when the originals were new...the quality of even these reproductions are beautiful to me.
Like you said in the beginning...It would be one thing if they were sold for a lower price, instead of passing for the very high end versions.
Glad you enjoyed this!
I have a doll and she has really old fabric and hair made out of a horses mane, is she real?
Rachel, thanks a lot for this interesting video! I am collecting Gebrüder Heubach dolls and therefore curious to know, if you have ever seen the list of standard head sizes of this manufacturer? Usually the stamp at the back corresponds to the mold and to the head size as well. I am searching for this information desperately. Greetings from Germany!
Hmm I bet it is in the Collector's Encyclopedia of Dolls!
This has been very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
thank you so much for this video! after watching it i realized that i can have antique looking doll as reproduction and i very fast find the perfect match for me. I`m too exited🥰😘😍
Glad I could help! Reproduction dolls are great, too! You just need to know what you have. Enjoy!
so important i want to collect antique black brown bisque but afraid of fakes.
If you purchase from reputable dealers, you should be safe!
Couldn’t an antique lose their coloring by being exposed to too much sunlight?
Id love to see differences in real and reproduction german china head dolls.
Good idea! Thanks for tuning in!
I just bought a cloth doll that looks vintage with ceramic hands and feet. It has no id and the clothes cannot come off to identify if it would be worth anything. Only $2 at a thrift store.
Please explain Hard Plastic Disease in dolls and what to do about the problem. Thanks Nancy
Thanks for the video idea!
Rachel Hoffman
You are quite welcome! Also would like to know the price of a rabbit fur jacket for my vintage Terri Lee Doll I received for Christmas! She is like new, but the rabbit fur lined with red material deteriorated. I still love her so much just like the magical Christmas morning in 1950. Thank you, Nancy Pfender, Evansville, IN Email: pfender13@icloud.com or Raintreecounty1@gmail.com. Thank you so much! Nancy
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Price of Terri Lee Rabbit Fur jacket lined with red material for Terri Lee vintage Trrri Lee Doll for a a Winter Snow suit .
I always. can tell them apart. simply is that, the antique one always have same oval shape face and typical eurocentric facial features, which was a beauty standard of those day - the type of face I would call " a young version of Queen Catherine of Prussia. in the same time the antique dolls tend to look more like robot without life since those days these dolls were mean to be a toy for kid. So they are giving an expression of being a real doll toy. Unlike a fake modern dolls are always come in different type of face and are slightly exotic with facial features that people like nowadays. For example, thick lips, big Chinese cheekbone, board nose or wide set eye etc. They are also look more realistic close to human than to the antique doll because of more advance in technique, better tools, materials and better colour etc. The modern doll makers are also like to make doll to look beautiful as possible, these dolls are handmade not from the factory like antique doll. Overally modern doll or fake doll are look more lively, fresh and realistic and lesser creepy compare to the real antique doll.
Got out of sync near the end . I got a replica of a pale curly black hair civil war doll. These doll are usually dime a dozen since they are made a lot.
can you help me i have a made in Germany 310 aom doll with a signature of edith can you tell me if she is real
That one probably is a reproduction if it has a name on it aside from the germany mark
Please do a video on cleaning a porcelain doll because I can’t get the stains off the face of mines she has smudges on her face
Hi! We have lots of cleaning videos on our channel. Search “cleaning” on my channel videos and you’ll come up with at least two or three. Good luck and thank you for watching!
I got a antique bisque doll from eBay auction she said it’s from 1894 would love to know if it’s real it had a 8-0 on it
Is she still teaching?
She sure is!
What I do, that's useful for studying is just go to eBay. Just look at the varies dolls for sale. Look at the repro ones and compare them to the real ones. The eyebrows are the biggest giveaway. Plus there that certain something that just lacking in most repros. There's a lot of sites to go to for studying dolls.
I have a few repros in my collections. They're actually done fairly well. One of them is a beautiful Bru. But when you compare them to genuine dolls. The bisque just doesn't look the same. There's a newness about them.
I'm also a coin collector, so I have 2 hobbies with fakes to watch out for. LOL
where do i go to check if my dolls are fake or real? like a site for serial numbers for dolls where do i find one
You should post it in a Doll identification group on Facebook. The members inside them will tell you.
Do you have a little girl in a little blue hat and a yallow shirt with her holding red some kind of thing and see has letter cn her shirt
This video was really good. I'm researching a heubach doll for a friend and came across one that sold at action for $2600. Comparing photos with mine and all the info in this video the one that sold looks like a fake. 😬
Make sure to have a professional or a couple of professionals look at it before making this determination. There is always an exception, and it takes decades of experience to tell quickly. Don’t just take this video’s word for it, have a professional give their opinion. You’ll have to hire someone (it’s not free), but it’s worth it.
do you have a video on Antique China doll repros & originals?
This is a good lesson!
Thanks!
I have a lot of doll mold of all sizes is there a market for them?
Not that I have found.
Just looked at your video and you mentioned French Fashion. Do you have a video of the fake FF? I see an awful lot of FG and think that is an imbalance of the FF population.
I don’t have a specific video but I’ll make one someday!
I have always wanted to learn how to make dolls.
There are a ton of resources online, you can learn! Can't wait to see what you make.
I bought a Peter Playpal reproduction. I bought him from a reputable small seller, he came with an Ashton Drake tag, and I believe he was released in 1980 (supposedly the time when the series was revived) as opposed to the earlier, original 1960 release. Would he be considered not authentic, or simply a re-issue?
Bel Ucre A reissue is completely legit and not considered “fake” or a fraud - as long as it is sold as a reissue.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Thank you so much! I feel so assured. Yes, he was sold as a reproduction (reissue) of the 1960 dolls.
I have a old heinrich and Hanover it says germany above the names and. #8 I still can't tell if she real or fake I got her from my Aunt who collected dolls I know nothing.
I have a bunch of antique dolls
Many China painters make reproduction dolls with no intention to defraud anyone. I am a former reproduction doll maker. I also sign and date my dolls.
I bought my first doll a few weeks ago. Something about her just called to me. I know she's a fake but I just had to have her.
Congratulations!!! It doesn’t matter as long as you know. Liking the doll is what matters. Hope you have many more!
I’m too lazy to check that so I’m just going to buy ones that have dates on them and if I don’t know the date I’m not buying it cause it could be fake.
That works, too.
I have a doll her name is alice she is old from heritage mint 1989 made in taiwan
That is great!
Omg if I lived there, you would never get rid of me😂
Glad you enjoyed this!
I have some vintage dolls that I would love to show you. Can I send you some pics of them
I have a doll that I can't find any details on she belonged to my friends grandma and when she died I inherited the doll I was told she's a Holocaust doll and has markings on back of her head K🔯R (or R🔯R) under that it says Simon × Halbig then under that it says 117 she's very heavy, she has porcelain legs and arms she's in a black dress with red curly hair and she's 36-38" tall. Any ideas for me I'm trying to sell her to someone who would love her and have a good home for her.
I have a British made antique doll C1916 with molded eyebrows and she is definitely genuine
That is awesome! Thank you for watching!
@@RachelHoffmanDolls Thank you for uploading your videos....I'm learning a lot about dolls which is all new to me and your shop is Amazing! 😊
Pretty , thank you,
Thanks for watching!
I have a antique doll and she has different eyebrows to other antique dolls She is real a real Antique doll
Awesome! Thank you for watching!
antique doll is gorgeous and looks definitely different than reproduction doll
I just got my first grinnie
How wonderful!! Congratulations 🎉
Please Please please respond, is there such thing as fraud bye lo baby dolls. Just wondering thank you
There are reproduced Bye Lo baby dolls but I doubt they were made to defraud. It’s generally expensive French and German dolls.
@@RachelHoffmanDolls oh ok thank you I won an action on ebay with a bye lo and she definitely looks authentic from the 20s. Im new to antique collecting and would hate to have an unoriginal doll and not know it! Btw love your channel im always watching your videos!
I'm sorry but this did not meet my expectations and is probably for a much more advanced audience than myself. So many of your examples were simply spoken about rather than actually shown side by side. It is one thing to just say "look at the color and feel the weight" and another to actually compare colors and weights (and other details). There has to be more than just a certain Je ne sais quoi about telling fakes from the real. Sorry if this sounds impolite, not meant to be.
It was not meant to be an in-depth presentation but more of a conversation. This off-the-cuff video was filmed live on Facebook inside my doll shop, I added it to RUclips later.
WHAT IS looping on the hair
hmmmm not sure!
I LOVE U 😘✌️✌️
Very interesting and helpful thank you
Thank you for tuning in!
Do you have a contact email for free advice on dolls
No.
How may I get to you by phone? Letter also. I need a mailing address.
Hi! We work by e-mail. Feel free to shoot us an email from the about section of our account.