Poker Pro Embarrassed by Business Man in These 3 Hands
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- In this video, we take a deep dive into Marianos recent quiet downswing that has totaled nearly $1 million dollars and what has lead up to it including several crazy hands.
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00:00 $1mm downswing
05:33 Which hand would you rather have?
05:36 Hand 1 vs Brown Balls
08:35 Hand 2 vs Tan
11:18 Mariana
13:05 Hand 3 vs Tom (plays BLIND)
15:50 Hand 4 vs Will (wtf call)
17:27 Interview & response
18:36 Does Mariano have 100% of himself?
18:56 Reaction to bad hands
20:25 Do you NEED to punt on stream?
21:06 Relationship with Nik Airball
21:42 Why does he get hate?
22:28 SKILL GAME 
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The only time you are blocking aces in a 6-bet pot is if you are holding 2 of them.
🤣🤣🤣
Isn’t it gto to 7-bet shove all in with AKo? 😂
Still not
@@andyv123 ive played for years and ive never even seen a 7 bet lol. at my lvl after you 3 bet theyll basically either fold or jam lol. how deep ya gotta play to see 7 bets lol thats just weird to type.
Yeah you're blocking two of them to only end up being against the other two aces all in preflop. I can't remember a hand on ANY stream where someone six bet bluffed preflop. The closest thing I could remember is that insane hand by Ivey in Monte Carlo when he either six bet or 7 bet jammed Q high and got Jackson fold. People just don't do it. It's like the check raise bluff on the river in a $1/$2 game, it just doesn't happen.
Mariano was infected with the same brain worm that crawled into Rampunt's ear.
😂😂😂😂
Rampage is a communicable disease.
He wouldn’t even be up if it weren’t for the massive AA vs KK vs KK and straight flush vs nut flush coolers.
I mean based on live stream stats for sure.
Sad to see Mariano put on a fake nice guy act when in reality he's a disingenuous human. My friend and I experienced his true colors at Hustler.
He sat in our smaller game after the show a few months back. He was constantly going all in, laughing when he sucked out and belittling us. My friend beat his AK with a straight and he rebought and kept saying we would all stay stuck poor playing there. Don't fall for the facade.
someone else called him fake and said they had a bad experience in person. wonder where the truth lies. usually somewhere between the poles...
You can see it in his face
He did not tell you that you will always be poor playing low stakes Lmfao
he seems a bit pretentious and narcissistic based off what I’ve seen from his videos but what do I know, rampage seems more likable as a human being
I had basically the same experience playing 2/3 at hustler with him. He even tried to offer me a lucky chip which I politely declined.
Bluffiano's poker winning chart says it all. It is easier to employ the bluff strategy against noob players in smaller stakes, but not at high stakes.
When everyone now knows you are the types of bluffs you do, you have to adjust your strategy.
I think its more the reputation... I would even say its harder to bluff weak players as they will call with everything. It also doesnt help to ship it into Aces pre flop or Aces full on the river lol
Bluffing actually works way less in lower stakes because people just call anything off. You are dead wrong. Stay in micro stakes buddy
Back to 1-3…….sitting next to Rampage.
Lmao. That’s cruel
Maybe back to commenting on RUclips clips….
Listening to these idiots talk about blockers is painful. In a 6 bet pot. Your hand is meaningless. The guy has aces
Exactly. Blockers matter when a range is tight. But when a range is just 1 hand, Aces, then wtf do they matter
Even at 1/3 a 5bet is normally aces 😂
not true, one time this guy did a 16 bet pot and i shoved with AK and he had 72o and i won a 900k pot.
@@DTR1LLin 1-3 a 4 bet is 100% aces
@@cronstrubzoa 16 bet how many blinds deep were you
standard abc-poker is underrated
I prefer abcyz
Yep. It's a world of getting 1,2,3 outet post-shove, but still underrated
Live pros are just fish players at the end of the day
They are a fish even at the beginning of the day😂
Tilt will turn anyone into a fish. Tilt is the destroyer of all players
@@bulmer69JR true if it weren't for that AKo first hand. That's the hallmark of a fish - overplaying hands deep.
Without fish poker is dead. I don't want to play with eight Linus on the table.
@@babybossRuby yeah, -EV to write this comment I know.
Offcourse that was a "TOUGH CALL" in the Tan V. Mariano hand... I do not care who you are a novice or Phil Ivey, it is never easy calling a big river bet when NOT ONLY did the front door flush come BUT ALSO there is a 4-Liner to the straight comes in as well EVEN if you do have a SET which in this case is MERELY a bluff catcher!!! Yes he may have taken a lil longer to make the call but it totally was a TOUGH CALL...
Especially since this guy is an amateur. He's probably not used to playing pots this large. Mariano could have literally anything. Mariano could have dust like he has here, but he could have also shown up with any 6 in the deck, or any two suited cards with the way he's been playing recently. It's always a tough call when everything get there
Mariano ran insanely above EV at first and now is running more at baseline so he’s annoyed he’s not sun running
If a guy 6bets you for 1/3 of his stack and you go all in with AK you are a fish. This is just punting so much money for no reason
No no no he’s a dead fish not even flopping around just dead
He thinks he’s Garret 😆. Hustler was better when Garret was owning these dweebs
but everybody was paying less rake because Garrett was crushing with accuracy
Alex, in the first hand, your description of Mariano’s AK vs the other guy’s AA is SPOT ON. Card removal goes out the window when you get 6-bet by an average player.
Even vs. 4bet vs a rec AK is trash
totally agree with you. yes AK technically removes some of the AA combos. But than again the 6 bet removes all other combos then AA from his range. the concept of blockers applied in spots like this is just an overplay.
it's sad to see Mariano punt away a significant chunk of his savings like Rampage after doing well for a bit but we must give him some props because he owns up to it a little bit and is very graceful when he loses
lol no he isn’t. When he loses he’s a straight asshole and eye rolls and sarcasticlly comments on other peoples play
Listened to that podcast today.
He’s a people pleaser who cares way too much what people think. My guess is nik airball or someone else from the stream said they don’t want to play with him
i used to play mariano at morongo some years back at 2-5 when he could just run the table over with overbets. cant do that much nowadays.
whats with the matt berkey poster in the back? anyone care to explain please??
kinda funny mariano and rampage came up at the same time and are burning out at the same time
It's interesting how Mariano and Rampage are both having huge downswings at the same time. It's almost like they had an advantage they no longer have?
Mario is hard coping and i used to like him.
Nitucci: I never have sold a cent.
No one surprised.
It's a punt but I think he gets folds from trip A's from Brown Balla w the 86 checking raising the turn multiway in that spot. Think he's probably getting called by AK+ and AK is a catcher that occasionally chops vs value.
I don't understand what the question at 18:40 "Do you have 100% of yourself" mean. Could someone explain it to me please. I guess it isn't a literal meaning but english is not my mother tongue so that doesn't help.
In high stakes poker games, players 'sell action' so they don't have to risk so much money to play. Here, Mariano is saying he never sells and always has 100% of his own action. Compared to Rampage for example that often sells action.
Sometimes In high stakes people buy action. So I would give you 10k to go play a poker session, and I get a certain percentage of your winnings. Makes it so it you lose, you don’t lose as much as it’s not all your money. But if you win you don’t get 100% of your winnings
@@AlexDuvall Okay thanks for the information, I thought about this but was not sure.
It's a way of hedging your losses, I think more common in tournaments. Say you have a good history in tournaments, and want to play in the world series of poker ( WSOP ) but don't really want to pay the 10 K ticket, you can sell action ( maybe a friend pays you 5 K in exchange for 50% of the winnings ). The downside is that you could end up in "makeup"; indebted.
7:35 Mariano played it fine here. There are two Aces on the board, so the board is blocking Aces, what are the odds that his opponents have an ace. He just got unlucky.
The swings at these stakes is crazy. If i had a good swing taking a shot I'd try to swallow my pride and move back down and secure the big win. Easier said than done though.
More about the game you're playing in
You should make a video on how Brad Owen is the complete opposite and how much hes up from day 1🤷♂️
Maybe! He’s tends to stay in his own lane so tbh not super click worthy
I remember early Mariano vids when he was playing $2-5 just a few years back. Now he's playing nose bleed stakes on Hustler live stream? That screams one thing to me. LUCK BOX. Out of the millions of people in the US who play poker, somebody has to win the lucky lotto ticket.
get comfortable and see how quickly the variance can just absolutely crush you plus playing against stronger players will get you just dusted.
Great essay. I think we are in a great renaissance of NLH- can’t wait to see Wolfgang and other newer age vloggers in the same spots torching their bankroll due to over confidence/ limelight :)
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
The hate is real.
@@BrianWilliams1911 who do I hate? I love all mentioned quite literally am a fan. Lol.
@@TommyOlszewski 15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
Alex in the hand in which Tan called with a rivered 88 set and tanked for a long time - you thought Mariano possibly wasn’t being genuine afterwards when he said it was a “tough call” and you mentioned he rolled his eyes… I think Mariano was 100% being genuine. I think the eye-roll was simply Mariano being frustrated with himself and his “bad luck”.
I also "gave props" to him for staying positive and responding nicely to Tan. Honestly was confused on how he really felt.
I really wonder if Mariano could beat 200nl online. Like no hate but I think those guys online with huds would pick him apart. Wouldn’t be surprised if he would struggle at 100nl
love these new poker vids like mini documentaries
The punts have been working for Marino and Rampage for the last three years.There had to be a return to the mean eventually.
I don't think there's as much pressure to play crazy as vloggers claim there is. I think it's all in their heads. Thoughtful, well played hands are thoroughly entertaining to watch. I'm looking for guys like Mariano to pick those loose players off, not become one himself.
I've been playing poker for 30 years. Have seen many "pros" come and go. Sadly Mariano is on the way out. If he does manage to swing back, it will only be a matter of time before he goes busto.I've seen Mariano make some sick lay downs but all it takes is 1 bad day of bad decisions. That bad day will domino effect into the next day etc etc.
Everyone is a poker genius when they can see the cards. Lol
@9:24 "You're beating all bluffs....." Hahaha. no kidding.
I love the fallacy of "Blockers" at all statistically. Fun fact, you ONLY "Block" the two cards you have in your hand. It's more "Unlikely" someone has an Ace if you have pocket aces, but its entirely possible someone else got dealt the other two aces.
15:42 😂😅😂😂❤
Staking Super Mariano is like throwing hundred's of thousands of dollars into a raging fireplace 🔥💸🔥
Can anyone comment on where the data comes from in the graph @ 33 seconds in?? Live cash results are pretty opaque.
Site called high roll poker. They track all live streams
I think Mariano underestimated Zhao. Zhao is a beast.
"I thought he was bluffing".. so raise my bro. You were halway there, then you call with 4th pair bottom kicker
Kudos to him saying he played at the end
7-bet shove with AK is straight up PUNT
7bet shove punt with AK >>>>>OFF SUIT!!! LOL
It's really a bluff at that point
Repping one's opponent's hand tends to not work out well (being results oriented/humorous... having done it once or twice myself, not for 76k though....)
Vanessa Mariano!
I thought Mariano and Rampage would be good poker players based off the poker highlights I saw when I first started watching them but holy moly they are fish
Let me guess you’ve never had a bad night or a down swing and during your down swing you never punted.
I don’t understand why you don’t have more subscribers
Haha thanks it's growing, just got to stay consistent
Well there is something called preference. Some people like this content, some people don't. And yet more other people don't even see the content because of the YT algorithm, hence the channel's growth. It would be more accurate to say that you like the channel, unless you actually are this ignorant and stupid and needed my pedantic douchey explanation at the beginning, though I AM assuming that you are not that dumb. I've been wrong before.
Not really surprised seeing those app game crushers lose big. Made their money from shady practices not playing cards - to much confidence given they blew up so fast and also coz they are used to winning all the time when they have suss edges on app.
Wow, some people are dumb.
He made a Vlog saying he was up 850k last year
Lololol😂
Pretty possible. Live play and private games are completely different. He is building his image here, the profit or loss is not the main priority in live games
@@user-yt4pl3ez9syou mean in streamed live games
That's the beauty of the web. You can san anything you want and a lot of people will believe it. P/L in cash games is impossible to prove or disprove That's why profitable players love cash.
Mariano been giving to much action in stupid spots he knows he should he folding. Like same stream or last he called with queen high twice. I swear he only does it so he can look like a genius or something...
stop hating
@@hattershouse710 I mean like it is true though man. He's been losing a ton by doing those types of calls in those spots. Can't deny that.
Yeah, like the 5b and 7b with AK, vs a player that had not 4b all night an d tank called river bet with a set
Guys, everyone knows it’s plus ev to go on a 1mil downswing. You guys don’t understand poker.
Mariano is fun to watch- he just went off the rails in this stream lol
why on earth would brown balla just call in that spot
The 88 was such a nit roll. Never folding
16:20 its most likely a blocker bet for pot control right?
0 reason to bet = bluff / clicking buttons
@@AlexDuvall how is a blocker pot for pot control 0 reason to bet? If that was his goal he achieved it
@@aeiouaeiouaeiou Blocker bets are typically small in size. His bet was big. It wasn't a blocker bet. It was a bluff, but he could have just checked as well. He is beaten by a lot now. When he gets called, he does not think he is good because he usually isn't. Mariano didn't have the thought at the time to turn his T into a bluff, which is what he should have done.
He said how little he plays is perfect for what he has going on in his life right now. Just saying that sounds pretty clear to me that whatever is going on in his life is affecting his poker and here we are
As Uri Peleg says, everyone’s a fish
When you see a guy making plays like these, he's been on a heater for a long time. He could be a bad player who's been on a heater, or he could be a good player who's started to feel entitled to winning hands. And for the record, firing at a guy blind like that is intentionally insulting. But if the opponent is really weak enough to try that, and he just keeps on calling... he's got something.
Imagine buying a piece of this dude that night and seeing this type of play!
He says he doesn't sell
High stakes poker season 1 they played like fish for a reason. This guy is just carrying the torch. “Good for the game”
i don't enjoy people playing poker like it's roulette. it takes the soul out of what it ought to be. So his reasoning to play like this because it's a stream is not very convincing.
Every one enjoyed watching him when he played reasonably well, picked good spots for his bluffs and and made sure to have an edge by having at least some preflop hand selection.
I have much more respect for players playing well and maybe also getting bluffed out once in a while or giving up on the river instead of pulling some rampage suicide bluff out of desperation.
I also like seeing people win!
That last comment about the game being not skill dependant said it all about him
Was interesting for sure
What he was saying applies to short term, not long term which maybe he recognizes
I absolutely hate when people sit there for 10 min after the opponent clearly is strong and 4 bets or even 5 bets like dude just fucking raise or shove he’s calling almost everytime u don’t have to sit there and huff and puff like your some top tier player outplaying someone
when there’s thousands involved, you better take your damn time.
lol yea bro, bit different from your home 50 cent/1 dollar games
He must really hate his backers 🙃
3 bet with AK and just call 4best that’s how I do in position
I would probably min 5 bet and fold out of position
poker not so easy when the deck not smacking you in the face
He was gettinh stacked first hand anyway when the K came out !!!
18:48 The idea of someone taking a piece of Nick's action made me laugh so hard.
My exact thought 😂
Who's gonna buy action from you Nick
Mariano lost himself after that loss with AK. Then proceeds to blow away the 100k he just added with trash hands after. And played them like they were Aces. You could also see Rampage look on the side like.. Bro WTF are you doing 🤦
Yes Mariano gives action and he must or anyone must to be invited to games. But Ak for 800bb is beyond a punt. His play of late has been atrocious. When running well he looks amazing. When not he is beyond horrid.
Back in the days if you saw an Italian on your table it was free money, just raise them and they saw it as a threat to their masculinity. Having said that, Mariano seems like a cool classy guy.
Lol wattt
I guess Rampunts mojo is rubbing off on Mariano. Mariano is hanging out with the wrong crowd
Mariano always plays like that. 3 bets bad hands
the biggest piece of information you get at the table is how much money is the other guy pushing in the pot. 6bet is always aces. no one has 6bet bluffs
Not for 1/3 of his stack
NOPE lol 😂😂😂
He got rampage into poker he is master chief punter rampage is just lieutenant punter
Damn buddy is just dusting off stacks like it’s nothing
Mariano feels the need to put on a show to keep on playing there. HCL probably indirectly pressures them into this.
And it shows. Because the hand makes no sense. Pretty sure he fell into that trap of "what are they going to think if i fold AK on stream" in his head and shoved. Cant think any sane poker player that would shove in that spot in any other game
I think that it's funny that everyone is shittin on mariano, and rampage for doing exactly what they were doing, before, simply sun running and being in the right spots.. people watch and adjust and variance is definitely a bitch.
Who goes broke first Mario or ramp
Neither
I imagine neither will go "broke", for different reasons whether that be alternate income from/because of poker, or being backed by someone. But as far as being able to sustain their play the longest? Probably Mariano because between the 2 of those guys, he looks like he sometimes does try to play good poker. Rampage has literally posted to social media that he needs the bigger action and can't play lower stakes to enjoy poker, which is a 100% sign of a gambling addict. Plus a lot of his poker logic is now "I can't ever win money if I never take a stand and gamble" (his exact words in his last vlog).
He had aces vs kings and kings for a huge pot and won and then beat Andy stacks out of a huge cooler straight flush vs nut flush. He’s just not getting horseshoe up his bum anymore
Mariono playing AK off like that is a cry for help. He is approaching Airball status. Mariano playing 8-4 off blind is like jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge for RUclips clicks.
K on first flop on pretty dry board. Mariano is going all in regardless
After the 5bet or 6bet pre with AKo? LOL.
This is what happens when you think you’re better than everyone but you’re just a beluga.
Hes definitely not a whale get real. Sure he ran like god and he’s likely not as good as his results, but the dude is not easy to play. He can clearly bluff and any point and will value bet light so good luck when you’re holding good hands.
Mariano finds the worst spots to bluff, then puts his opponents on bluffs they never have, lmao
Happens to us all
People dont understand that mariano wants certain image to get invited in better games old amature players dont want to have tight players in their game
He literally talks about *not* caring about that at the end of the video haha
@@AlexDuvallJust cause he talked about not caring doesn’t mean he actually doesn’t care.
Dude is a losing player
That’s one expensive image…
This is such a terrible take lmao. Mariano is a whale. He will be dead broke eventually the way he plays.
Poker can be a way of life but don't let it consume your life, or shit like this happens.
To be fair, he talks about only playing 1/week now and doing other things like working on music
Mariano is indeed a gracious loser. Very classy guy.
There’s not supposed to be a 6 and 7 bet “range” lol.
This
two hands Mariano tilted almost 170k this is madness didn't he see ace and jack on the flop
I can take these pros in 1/2 game anytime 🤣
I thought Mariano was better. Homeboy is a joke, not because of his losses but because of his explanation of the game.
Getting drunk when you're suppose to be playing disciplined sure isnt helping. And we've all seen him plenty drunk on stream.
If you can't relate to the plight of Mariano (and Rampage) you just haven't played enough poker (or your consistently a losing player, or both) . Four things are at play here; boredom, the law of large numbers, patience and discipline (the lack thereof). At some point live poker goes from being fun and exciting to mostly boring and often annoying. As you start out and grind your way up it's fun and often exciting even when you win small amounts of money. As you continue to play and your bankroll grows you need to win larger amounts of money to maintain the 'high' like a drug addiction. You want more and you want faster. At some point you become jaded. This is inevitably followed by a loss of patience and discipline and then a painful spanking or two (or ten). It's the oldest story in the book of poker.
This is hard for people to relate to when they are playing such high stakes
5:00 I've never seen a more incompetent representative of the poker world than Veronica Brill. She may be a nice person but she has zero understanding of poker dynamics.
At best, you both have AK, at the minimum, you have a 3 outter