Scientology Leader David Miscavige on ABC News Nightline FULL
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2015
- Scientology leader, David Miscavige, interviewed by by Ted Koppel Live on ABC Nightline show, 1992. This 90-minute segment interview earned an Emmy Award.
Mr. Miscavige addresses various arguments, including the relationship between psychiatry & Scientology, allegations about where the Church's money goes, and a lot more.
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Ted Koppel is a true gentleman. The way he interviews is fantastic.
Well he did live in England until he was 13...🙂
@@stephanieheger7388 he said gentleman not douchebag
I dont think so...He interrupts every question he asks with another one...
I wonder how many peoole commenting on this are scientologists
None. Scientologists do not have access to social media, or legit hard news. They have no idea that they are being lied to and exploited. Are they stupid or gullible? No. The are the victims of a dangerous and destructive cult. They need help.
@@dorothyaebutcher7103 not true I am scientologist
So what is Scientology @@babymilo9963? What is your experience of Scientology?
I am
@@dorothyaebutcher7103 Hahahaha! That's a good one! Wow! Never heard THAT before! And yes, I've been a Scientologist for 50 years. I've worked for the Church, too, so I know ALL about it.
His Emmy was well deserved for this.
Watch it more than once, he truly believes in this faith.
The small nuances indicate that this was straight from the heart and the small pauses are normal considering there was millions watching.
The fact is he came in here to defend his beliefs, something he didn’t have to do.
He was right about a lot, psychotherapy is EVIL and originates from nazis.
"In the few seconds we have left"
*An hour later*
"In the few seconds we have left"
🤣🤣🤣
now THAT is how an interview is done.
I really respect this interview and this reporter. he's asking important questions without giving his own personal opinion like they do today. bring back the old reporters or get some new ones who know how to ask questions without showing a reaction.
Was just thinking this listening to this interview, wtf happened to journalism?
Back when reporters were actually reporting, not activists making the news up from their opinions.
@@usedcarsalesman777fox news
I mean, he is giving his personal opinion. You and I just happen to agree.
I have criticisms of modern media too, but I see little difference in how this particular type of journalism is don’t today and back then.
I love watching interviews from the 80s and 90s there questions was so real on both sides they kept their cool as well.They where looking for there questions & answers and a respectable manner. Especially the oprah show. i love love. Love love ❤❤💗💓💕 it. I have 20 years of shows to catch up on😄😄😁😁.
Smart girl.
Plenty of heated arguments that led to arguments in the 80s, 90s.
Yes thanks to RUclips, we have a treasure trove of shows like these to enjoy
In its place we now have Jimmy Kimmel. Partisan “news” podcasters, commentators, and broadcasters (even entertainment talk shows!) haul in tens of millions more viewers than investigative news journalists in the U.S.. And we see each other as enemies. Go figure.
If this is so great why don't they take in all the homeless people?
David explains in the beginning exactly why
Thomas Litfin good question, also people with disabilities
Lol youd be surprised how many people they try to help and arent willing to cooperate.
bro ik what u mean but that is like saying "oh cool but end world hunger" it's just a bad argument
To be fair, NO religion takes in all homeless people.
He is a good interviewer...
The origin of this show was "America Held Hostage", while Iran was holding American hostage on a boat, amidst the election that brought Ronald Reagan to office of President. Koppel was the original host.
Yeah this is a proper reporter 👍
Video looks like it's from 1992 while the audio sounds like it's from 1962
It is from 92 you numpty
Lol i thought that too
This is on the same show as the moon landing earlier that night
It was very likely re-recorded from a VHS tape or screen recorded, and then published by uploader, that would explain the bad audio sound.
It's been recompressed, downloaded/uploaded, multiple times. Low bitrate.
Miscavige coined the term 'hater'and we didn't realise
That’s always been a word or a term. People just use it more frequently nowadays
@@jaimeaugusta2567 Not used in the same context until recent years.
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U r funny. R u Eddie Murphy? Or are you Howard Stern? Either way u r funny. Keep up the good work Eddie, or Howard
Jimmie Knipe 🤣
let me tell you
I grew out of asthma, just like the doctors predicted.
me too lol
That's because they didn't get you hooked on steroid inhalers.
@@JamesOsyris I was on steroid inhalers given by doctors still out grew my asthma. Haven't needed inhalers since I was 15
Guys a gangster
meyrick3 ×Hustler
I would like to thank my Ford dealer for making this interview possible lol
care to explain?
Yankees, who is the interviewer? He's excellent, allows him to speak but interjects perfectly with intelligence.
Ted Koppel
Ted Koppel. The one, the only...
Ted Koppel
How do you NOT know who famous Ted Kopple is? Omg
😂😂 "yankees"
Thank you for sharing this video.
Excellent interviewer.
seems like 30 minutes of this interview is "we'll be back in a moment."
Well the video itself is an hour and the description mentions 90 minutes...
So basically yes.
Great Video..👍 Thank You !! For Sharing it..💓🙏
10:15 "drug rehabilitation technology of L Ron Hubbard" LOL. Really?
what about it. narconon is the largest drug rehabilitation program on the planet.
@@piemasta93 with 33 centers around the world..hmm that number sure comes up alot..
Yes he pioneered things no one else has.
Victoria i know you didnt ask me but seeing as nobody answered allow me to. What they do is extreme sauna, hours per day and some exercise. The idea is that the body detoxes due to all the sweat and therefore with the traces of drugs gone the idea is the body no longer has cravings. Theory is that drug residues are stored in fat sland they attempt to rid the body of the stored drugs.
Brilliant interviewer!
24:59 is that the first ever "hater" comment?
Yes haha
it HAS to be! lol
12:45 thats is exactly what LRH said in the introduction to scientology video.... search on youtube you will find many things that are the same between the two, and not just about psychiatry
Will never forget where I was when I saw this.
Where were you?
At home with my mother in her bedroom. All I can personally recall is David defining aberrated using the elephant in his explanation and the photo of the Delphi student. I recall him from a yearbook. I know someone that got irritated when Ted Koppel interrupted David.
justin castillo Great story.
...and where were you?
Where were you?
Hi Alex, do you have the interview in spanish or subtitled? Thanks.
Fascinating stuff.
Ted Koppel's hair
dat shii cleaaan
46:10 always attack; never defend
11:57 BUDDH-ISM not BOOTYism
It's more important than water
He's only 32 here.
Yes, he was just getting started and he was really building the foundation for Scientology and Dianetics management.
31
The Truth Network - He'd been in charge of the church for a decade at this point, right? 1986-1996, IIRC.
Theres nothing like hearing it from the person himself.
If you wish for a video cassette version, it sometime I’ve heard in s long while.
Why can’t we have some journalist cover things like this and other interesting pieces and give us a damned Political break.
@32:26 he said dodo 😏😏
Interesting interview
What’s with the first couple commenters on about how great the interview? Kinda weird.
It was a good interview. Sorry you're too small minded to pay attention to what is being said.
this man has some gorgeous hair though
Millions of members?
Yeah that whole asthma thing he was talking about is typical. I've had relatives where it goes away eventually, it's not like he was cured of AIDS or some shit.
I got rid of my asthma by throwing my inhaler in the trash! Mind over matter!
I had asthma when I was a child too, I haven’t had asthma for 20 years lol
what's the timestamp of the asthma bit?
Its the timing that made it remarkable for him. It went away after he did about a hour of dianetics (if you believe what he says).
sounds like 'podcast' when koppel says brodcast
this is impressive on many levels. Even the huge scope of the topic aside, the manner in which two very "high minded" people managed to carry on a substantive and meaningful conversation ("debate") on a topic addled with some passionate controversy within the context and limitations of live TV (and not slip too far off in one direction or the other) is incredible. Well done to them both. (a mere scratch on the surface, I"m sure) (and thanks, Mr. Rodriquez, for posting).
And the men who hold high places must be the ones to start. To forge a new reality close to the Heart. Rush
Fml more breaks than the super bowl
So refreshing to see how they both managed to keep it respectful and at a certain level. Today that's a rarity, unfortunately.
Yawn
Agree
Back when there was unbiased reporting.
Hey Alex, thanks for posting. I'm fascinated by the clear thing, as I'm sure a lot of others are. It seems like that would be incredibly enticing to new members. How important is achieving clear to you personally? How disappointed would you be if you were told now that some Scientologists never achieve clear even if they are truly committed? And also, I've heard a conflicting definitions of clear; what do you understand it to be?
9:45 money to social reforms? Do I believe that? I am very skeptic that this is fact. Anyone have a source (book or article) to research on this topic?
Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health.
I don't not from what I've heard but look around there's lots out there.
anyone else thinks the audio and video do not fit well? it might be just impression...
I love him so much.
David: Gov is putting hits out on people
Ted: we have to take another break
People in the comment section: 😍 now this is reporting !
I know there are scientogists on here. Social Reform, apart From helping out with Relaxation at emergency sites. Have you built low income housing? Changed laws to help the poor? Set up a food bank? Im genuinely curious to here modern social reform policy's since this is early 90s. Are you helping non scientogists in this cost of living crisi
What year did this interview take place?
'92
92
It says 2016
1992... the video quality is deceptively bad, because it was probably recorded by someone on a VCR from a TV... ABC must have this interview in a much higher quality...
1992
yo where is the intro???
I wish he would do more, hasn’t done an interview in 30 years almost. I’m not a Scientologist but damn it’s a good back and forth.
I think one of the last performances on General TV,, I wonder why.....
27:58
28:16 that's it!
whatever happened to ted Koppel?
Elizabeth Rosenbaum I think he's retired.
+Elizabeth Rosenbaum He's an occasional contributor to CBS Sunday Morning. I watch that show religiously and I might see him on there once a month.
ABC basically kicked him to the curb because of ratings. Even Letterman and Leno always said Koppel and Nightline were the "gold standard" in journalism.
He retired in 2005 at the age of 65.
@JAY- TATE 🤣🤣🤣 that was a good interview
Wow. They have more commercial breaks than the Walking Dead. Wtf? It's like every 2 minutes. After like ten minutes TK says oh no the hour is up. Huh? What hour? Is this severely edited????
Abby Seromik duh
+Abby Seromik
I didn't see any commercials......Adblock Plus blocks RUclips commercials, and commercials in other sites, too.
I have the Mozilla Firefox browser; not sure if Adblock Plus is available with other browsers.
Bleu Mann they're talking about the cues Ted did to the original broadcast commercial breaks on ABC in 1992 when this interview aired
only in the isa
12:00
Boodyism :L
What month did this aire?
though I disagree with TCOS miscavige is clearly a brilliant spokesman for this org. Going up against the very sharp Ted Coppell was not an easy thing.
This does not seem like a religion but more of an ideology. Steps for self help, no?
How does it NOT seem like a religion?
Nash Belle i dont know why people connect negative things with religion. You might be one of them
Lol
You're right. This is the definition of the word religion: a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices.
I have medicine that I have to take for seizures does my medication count against what they believe. Not trying to start anything just wondering
+XxraexX1000 Whatever your medical doctor has you taking for a medical ailment will not only be allowed by the Church, it will require that you take it and follow doctor's instructions fully.
+XxraexX1000 No, if you have a medical condition like epilepsy you should treat it. Scientology is about spiritual betterment. We do believe that sometimes harmful drugs are prescribed when they are not needed but we are not against getting medical treatment when it is needed. I myself am a Scientologist and I take Keppra for a seizure disorder. My fellow Scientologists were quite adamant that I see a neurologist when I had my first seizure.
Hi mbblover. We are both entitled to our own opinions and to believe what we choose to believe, however, I don't think it fair that you call me a liar having never even met me.
It is actually church policy that a person who is physically ill receive legitimate medical treatment from a healthcare professional if they are to continue participating with the church. (Anyone can go to their nearest church and be shown the specific policies on this.)
And I actually know of at least one person who is OT VIII (the highest level a person can currently reach in Scientology) who also takes medicine for epilepsy.
I am not sure where you get all of your data from - I suppose the internet and not actual experience? But ask yourself what I would have to gain here from lying. I personally am not the least bit interested in proselytizing or converting anyone to any religion. I simply answered someone's question based off of my own qualified experience.
1.) Yes I am saying the church does not discourage someone treating a medical condition. If you know someone who is a Scientologist and was told by other Scientologists not to get medical treatment then that is wrong. “The Way to Happiness”, a moral guide that Scientologist should follow specifically states that one should get medical treatment when needed.
OT’s do not have magical powers and are not impervious to illness. I know of none that claim this. In "Dianetics" it states that there can be things inherently wrong with a person’s body and no amount of auditing will fix that. In other words; your genetics are the cards you were dealt. Dianetics simply sought to deal with psychosomatic issues.
The OT VIII I know with epilepsy (not a girl and not an OT VII as you state) does not flaunt nor hide his condition. (And I know him in passing but I don’t see what that has to do with anything in this discussion.) Neither do any other Scientologists I know who take insulin, blood pressure medicine, etc. flaunt or hide their conditions. It is what it is.
I’ve been a Scientologist for 10 years and I am on New Era Dianetics auditing. I did not answer that before because I was really not interested in getting in a debate but hey I am willing to at least answer your questions if that’s what you want.
I get my data by personal experience. Yes I have read all the shit online but I don’t typically believe everything I see in the news or read online unless I can get some firsthand evidence to substantiate it. But also I have the other side of the coin (being a real Scientologist) to compare it to.
2.) (Think I answered point #2 above.)
3.) I get a service for my donations that I consider well worth it. How else is my church going to pay the light bill? That money goes directly into the church so that others and I have a nice place to go and study or get auditing. It also funds social betterment projects. No church staff-member gets rich off my donations.
As for how people who leave Scientology are treated, they are usually left alone. I know three who have left and no one bothers them. Now the ones who leave and make unfounded, and serious accusations (and coincidentally enough most of them write “tell all” books to rake in some cash) I am sure they get some heat if what they are saying is untrue. Libel after all is illegal. Sure, unfortunately, some people did get a raw deal. There have been some people who had victimized fellow Scientologists and were later discovered to be Suppressive people who get off on harming others. When that is discovered they are expelled and their victims are given justice.
4.) As for truth; all I know is what I have witnessed personally. As for telling you how long I have ‘been in’ and what level I am at, I did that above. And again I have nothing to gain by telling lies or half truths.
And as far as telling you ‘all of this’ (your claims) are lies, I did no such thing. I simply stated that I don’t personally believe a lot of the stuff about Scientology I see online because it is different from what I have seen firsthand in Scientology. If you want to believe that then go for it. You’re allowed to do that.
Now, I am not interested in a debate. I was only interested in answering someone else's question but you seem so adamant in wanting to hear my comments on the points you brought up. I am glad to answer your questions if you want input from a Scientologist but if you have some axe to grind I don't want any part in that.
Patrick thank you for that very nice acknowledgement. Agreed, our opinions differ, at least our viewpoint on DM from what you posted here, but I have respect for you and mbblover too. I have a deep admiration for anyone willing to put their opinion out there in a public forum, even if its an opinion different than my own.
His hair...hairspray?
HURRR durrr
His jacket, fabric?
I love that reporter.
What is wrong with the reporters hair? Could’ve brushed it lol
I was waiting for Ole Doc Methuselah and his faithful sidekick Hippocrates to show up! Afterall the healed the Cosmos!
Why was Ted Koppel wearing a helmet? Oh, wait... that was his hair.
Well he was right about the Alaska Mental Health Enabling Act
I’ve watched this multiple times over the years; and I gotta admit, David does represent his religion pretty well. This interview is fascinating.
"People like to pull out the sexy part". Love him or hate him, my man was coining phrases long ago 😎
Am the only one who thinks he was a pretty good looking fella back in the day?
Yes a very handsome Taurus 😍
30:26 does he say podcast?
sombreninja broadcast...
sombreninja broadcast*
sombreninja Sounded like Darude, Sandstorm to me.
Superb clearly lays out basics for the public who may not understand the cost of the courses!
Christ American adverts are horrendous in a setting like this.
Scientology seems very like ancient religions/philosophies like hermetic philosophy in many way... not the church, the view on spirit and the body... the psychological view of belief in a creator, a creative source , is contrived as hell, again we have something being viewed from the position of having a conclusion before you start evaluating.
They’ve got many many different philosophical concepts taken from here and there
Very good interviewer and very smart interviewee.
Today's interviewers has became so biased and so bad (with a few exceptions) it's not even fun to watch interviews anymore.
He's a good looking guy
How come this sounds ridiculous and not the other religions? By the same idea, all religions are.
Great
Can someone be banished from your church?
Yes it called suppressive person
David talks extremely well
Like Cruise
I think this man is not given the credit he deserves for leading and growing the religion exponentially. Cruise is just his puppet.
Thanks to Scientology. I'm on the communication course right now. It's just true.
Jesus Christ is Lord!
So...Scientology is a treatment for asthma?
No.
No, no no no. definitely do NOT expect physical conditions to be handled if you do the purification rundown. Things like that MAY happen, like for my grandpa who smoked that happened, but nothing is guaranteed. You even sign a thing saying you don’t expect those things to be handled specifically, but they could. I did it and felt great afterwards so I would recommend
What benefits if any did you experience? The reason i ask is because i have a sauna and might give it a go if its worthwhile.
😆
He looks like Tom cruise
Cool
😤😤😤
COOOOOL
If this is what people want to do with there life so be it
Shunning?
Miscavige has a strong presence if he was a movie producer he could get stuff done with effortlessness drive ...
...I thought this was a great interview.
Not a scientologist, but I mean, it seems like the mainstream media doesn't actually explore the content itself. Seems more like a self-help group than a religion.
According to the IRS they are officially a religion with tax exempt status...
rm125 not even close
Sounds like something a scientologist would write.
I agree with you little bit, religion is about the spirit and becoming a better person.
Interesting new concepts for me; I'll give it a try. Thanks for the video.
Did you try Scientology? I'm just new to it and I love it so far.
I think Scientology is crap but can't deny the intelligence and articulation of this guy.
I am Legend
What bothers me about this interview isn't what he says but the video and audio quality, because I've seen clips which are much better...
You gotta admit David probably has an IQ of 150+
Jon Travolta says very very positive things about scientology.
LOL.
After the re-releasing of the 1993 event (announcing the Church's IRS tax exemption status) tape for Church members recently, this interview takes on more significance. This interview was done during the few years when the IRS was working with (and inspecting) the Church for exempt-status honestly for the first time. This was at the order of the IRS commissioner who was finding out about the IRS corruption, especially in the LA unit, against the Church. Many documents were released to the the Church through FOIA and in the course of the investigation. That is why Mr. Miscavige is saying things like, "We just found out this week . . .." Puts a whole different new light on the allegations made by bitter anti-religion folks.
Jason Michael Martin Yes, it is a religion. Even the IRS has acknowledged that. It addresses man as essentially a spiritual entity that is immortal and that one's future spiritual condition depends on the moral choices he makes.