Lombard Language | Can French, Spanish and Romanian speakers understand it?
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- In this episode of languages of Italy, we're testing mutual intelligibility between the Lombard language and three other Romance languages (French, Spanish and Romanian). Can they understand Lombard?
The Lombard language is a language, consisting in a cluster of dialects spoken by millions of speakers in Northern Italy and Southern Switzerland, including most of Lombardy and some areas of neighbouring regions. Lombard is considered a minority language, structurally separate from Italian, by Ethnologue and by the UNESCO Red Book on Endangered Languages. [Wikipedia]
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🤓 Simona Scuri - Lombard language speaker;
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🕰 Time Stamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:20 - 1. Word
7:15 - 2. Word
17:47 - 3. Word
22:52 - 4. Word
28:09 - 5. Word
32:53 - Commentary in English
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#lombard
Me: Surely that was the last of the Romance languages.
Ecolinguist: There's another!
There's always another romance language, there's like a dozen in Italy alone 😂
There are many, many, many more
Here in Italy we have all the romance languages you can imagine, don't worry! They will never end. Ahah
A manca l'piemunteis ad esempi
(piedmontese is missing for example)
ecolinguist: hold my hand! (in a romantic way)
I am French and was very surprised by how much it sounds like French. I find Lombard very beautiful !
Les Lombards sont à l'origine un peuple germanique comme les Francs qui ont migré vers le sud.
@@jean-lucchevrier2371 Oui mais le lombard comme langue c'est une langue gallo-italique neolatine. Substrat gaulois et superstrat germanique (gotique, lombard, francique).
Très belle langue. Quand c'est écrit c'est encore plus proche du français, ou plus compréhensible. Very beautiful language.
@@giorgiodifrancesco4590 Merci! Ce qui explique la prononciation du "u" français /Umlaut allemand au lieu de ou.
@@jean-lucchevrier2371 C'est la meme chose pour le piémontais et le ligurien, qui ont le "u" français et aussi le "eu" et le "schwa".
Dans le Sud de l'Italie, par contre, il y a des langues régionales (comme le pouillais) qui ont le "eu" et le "schwa", mais nonpas le "u" français.
Le lombard semble plus facile à appréhender pour une oreille francophone. J'adore !
Language from north-west italy are really close with catalan and occitan and are somewhat close to french
El comentario que escribiste esta facil de entender 🤫
I'm Lombard and I struggle to understand French speakers
E' il continuum linguistico. L'occitano è parlato ancora?
tout à fait, la phonologie n'est pas trop éloignée du français
As an Italian that speaks fluently Romanian and is learning French, it was a pleasant experience for my brain, intriguing
You should learn Spanish as well 😉😄
"Facciamoci l'inganno della cadrega"
"è un oggetto non troppo grande che viene dagli alberi. si può mangiare... se si è coraggiosi"
@@winkleperiwinkle808 Bravo, Gino. Sei scaltro come una faina!
Pensavo che il signore della Romania dovesse narrare la situazione dei terroni in Transilvania 🤔🤔🤔
Bravo Gino , sei scaltro come una faina
@@winkleperiwinkle808 dovresti anche aggiungere, la trovi anche nei fiumi ma non è un anfibio.
Thanks again for having me Norbert ! This was one of the coolest experience I've ever had 😊
It was really nice to meet Simona, Elena and Razvan and I would love do it again 😁
My pleasure! Thank you again for your contribution to the project! 🤗
You are very pretty.
Sei stata adorabile ❤️
where you from?i from georgia tbilisi
you live warshav poland?i from georgia tbilisi ti paruski pagavarim?croatia slovenian bosnia serbian bulgarian ukrainian understand?
I'm from Milano but our dialect Is dieing, we just use some words on common use, but primarly for joking. It has been so nice to listen an entire discussion with my dialect :)
Dovresti impararlo e tramandarlo ai tuoi figli, è facilissimo da imparare, hai già l'accento lombardo naturale e con un minimo sforzo non lasciamo morire la nostra centenaria cultura milanese e lombarda.
It’s not a dialect it’s a language. I always cringe when people say these languages in Italy are dialects. How is this possible? It comes from Latin not Italian
@@freestylevimto3109 centuries of Sabaudia, Fascist and then Republican propaganda have led to this. Speakers (not all) contribute to the death of languages, it is a mechanism specially created by unionists.
A famous character after the unification of Italy said "È stata fatta l'Italia, ora vanno fatti gli italiani", which means "Italy was made, now the Italians must be made".
This demonstrates how the situation was in 1800, nobody spoke Italian and few were interested in Italy as a state body.
@@ltubabbo529 yeah it’s the same in France in 1800. Something like 50% of France spoke a lenga d'òc. 200 years of being told it was a patois and now only like 100k now the language fluently.
@@freestylevimto3109 Yes unfortunately in several European countries it's like this...
The Romanian be like what the hell I am doing here, where are my Italo--Dalmatian-Napolitalian brothers that were not influnced that much from the Gallo-Celtic and Germanic tribes to back me up.
Lol
The difference between the germanic/celtic/gaulic influences of French and Lombard languages and the Slavic influence of the Romanian language is basically the main issue.
@@gicady Partially, but mostly was the fact that the words were poorly chosen and the explanations were unclear / confusing. For instance, for the second word she said (among other things) that the object might be made of plastic and you can use it to split wood. Really?! Has she ever seen a wood splitted by a plastic wedge?
I feel like romanians are like this all the time 😂
@@callmecassy huh
The Lombard speaker each time the Romanian speaker speaks: *Hoo minga capid*. :_-D
Hahahaha
@@nicolabrocca3082 nonsense. Lombardy (that's the English for it) has one language divided in 2 macro-varieties .I've never meet a lombardophone I didn't understand.
@@bepivisintainer2975 it's nice to know that we have cannibals among us.
@@donatopastore9021 stupid autocorrect :-(
It is "Ho minga capí"
I dreamed of the day that Linguriosa would appear on this channel!
I’m french and I’ve noticed we use same word for milk “lait” and sometimes I can hear a french accentuation specially on U. Also word man l’om and l’homme are so similar
So interesting!
In romanian it`s "om". ;)
Portuguese:
lait = leite;
homme = homem.
Set om i maia Trenta Nòf òf . Seven men eat Thirty nine eggs . Familiar ?
It'funny but when I went working in Madagascar I firstly used my Lombard to speak to malgasy people then fastly I lernt french .
But the italian pronuntiation was very usefull speaking malagasy , they thought I was zanatany , means son of the Land .
As a Québécois this was very interesting to watch because the Lombard language has a lot of sounds that my grandparents and great-grandparents used (before we had an education system). Our language has changed a lot since then but at times I really had the impression that it was an old French-Canadian grandma speaking.
Great video and keep up with this wonderful content!
It makes a lot of sense. The population of France, and off course Quebec has always had an awful lot of Lombardians, Emilian, Piedmontese and other Padan.
Makes sense that we had a similar pronunciation and stress of words.
That was so confusing as a French... Sometimes I thought she suddenly started speaking French xD
From the French point of view, I found her much easier to understand that Romanian (though she did use a lot of words I had a hard time guessing), and certainly the Romansch guy they had on earlier (Romansch being the most difficult of the romance languages for me to understand).
@@Tiqerboy I agree. I was lost anytime the Romanian participant spoke 😅
Is what happens to me. As lombardophone im always mistaken for French. Even from French when they hear me saying a few sentences they think that I speak some alpine French patois
@@bepivisintainer2975 Hi, are you speaking Lombard on a regular basis?
@@Tiqerboy Romanian or Rumantsch?
The channel never fails to provide great content
And long may it continue to do so!
Facts
This was so hard! I speak Italian and French but I struggled with this. What a wonderful language. I wish the best for Lombard!
I'm lombardian, it's so nice to hear our language on such a big platform, it warms my heart. I could understand almost everything, even if this is not my exact dialect
You're Lombard not Lombardian. Check the dictionary.
@@karldo4809 Exact.
I don't get why many people use "Lombardian" instead of simply "Lombard".
@@nicolocrippa8514 It's jealousy or simply ignorance.
Lombardianian
è un dialetto lombardo un po' inventato, vogliono creare una lingua franca lombarda, ottima iniziativa, ma rischia di diventare una lingua finta come è stato l'Italiano e come è ancora ora per tanti versi.
I'm Italian but i'm from Rome so the person I could understand the most is definitely Elena! :D
I'm Latin American, understood almost everything in lombardo.
@@Morpheux1 o.O
@@gretalisi8525 well I can understand Catalan, my grandmother was from Mallorca, and I have taken some French and classical Latin lessons, that has probably helped.
@@Morpheux1 Oh, now everything is clear! :D
@@Morpheux1 si por que yo (también hispanohablante) estaba igual de perdida que elena jajajja
I’m Italian and I had a REALLY hard time: to guess correctly I had to rely on Spanish and French mostly
As a french I was surprised how close the proncounciation of words is...
"Utel à l'om" and "utile à l'homme" are prounced exactly the same!!!
I had the feeling of someone bulding a language with italian grammar and french words!
@@FoxTrotteur me tooo. I am also a venetian speaker (geographically very close to Lombardia) and i found many similarities with my language but so so many pronunciations were more close to french and i was surprised. This kind of help us define better the linguistic continuum
Oh, I thought it was really close to the Italian language (I am French and learning Italian). So, I learned that I was wrong, thanks for this ^^
Same case to me, as a romanian
I know French and Italian and I was surprised how well I understood it ! It's really a beautiful a d interesting language !
So close to occitan and catalan! Great job Norbert!!!
I loved it
I'm from Milan too, like Simona, but Lombard is not commonly used by the younger generations here in Milan, so I understood more Spanish and French than Lombard itself. If I show this video to my uncles or grandma, they will probably understand everything.
Enorme tristezza
Se non si fa qualcosa la vostra generazione sarà quella dell'estinzione, il lombardo deve entrare nelle scuole
@@ltubabbo529 Vero. Io ho diciannove anni e lo sto imparando.
@@masterjunky863 Non te ne pentirai, io l'ho fatto (non per il lombardo) e sono riuscito a capire molte più cose sulla mia terra. È una goduria incarnare a pieno una cultura.
Comunque io sto aprendo un sito per questo genere di cose, se ti interessa in futuro ti contatto
@@ltubabbo529 Di dove sei?
As the language is not standardised, of course there are many ways to write it down. I had never seen the orthography system used in this video before, it was very interesting.
I would also love, even if it's a little bit more difficult to organise, to see a video encompassing all the Gallo-Italic languages together (Lombard, Piedmontese, Ligurian, Emilian-Romagnol).
Emilian-Romagnol does not exist, Emilian is different from Romagnol
@@minechannel1393 That is debatable as far as I know, there are different opinions on the topic
@@Zestieee it’s no longer debatable: Emilian and Romagnol are finally considered two distinct languages or, better, two dialect clusters, as they have never been standardized into two koinés (today some are working in order to standardise Emilian).
I am native Emilian, I even speak one of the closest Emilian dialects to Romagnol, and I can feel the difference between the two languages. Emilian is pretty similar to Lombard; Romagnol, like Ligurian or Venetian, is a bit further from the purest Galloitalic trio: Lombard-Piedmontese-Emilian.
Edit: Venetian status as Galloitalic is obviously debatable.
@@minechannel1393 Very good to know. I'd be very interested in learning more about the differences then!
There’s the Venetian language too, as a bridge between the gallo-italic languages and the italo-dalmatian ones. As a Venetian descent myself, I’d really love seeing it included.
As a Romanian, I'll understand any Italian dialect, Spanish, Catalan, ANYTHING but French. Much Love to France! French is the second closest language to Romanian, yet it's the hardest to understand to me. Viva France!
Je parle français et espagnol comme langues maternelles et le roumain est très compréhensible pour moi.
The problem with French is that the words are Latin, but the pronunciation is Germanic, I can read it all day, but can't keep up with moderate to fast dialog.
@@amadeusmza as a romanian speaker from Moldova, I understood everything you said without translating
@@Morpheux1 yes, French, some germanic pronunciation, you can hear it in the R and in U or EU (not a totally defined vowel as i or e), in German it's called umlaut (change of sound, lit.)
@@BETOETE eu is a totally defined vowel, it's [ø] or [œ], as it is common for romance languages to have pairs of mid-close/mid-open vowels represented by the same letter ([e]/[ɛ], [o]/[ɔ])
When the french girls speaks, it is like honey to my ears
Same here!
I LOVED this one, the host gave difficult words so it was extra informative and fun to guess along. THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU NORBERT!
I'm from an area in Piemonte very near to Lombardia, so my dialect is very similar to Lombard. Seen that i've been far from home for quite some time, it was so refreshing to hear it once again! Thank you so much for making the world know about our culture ! you should try with Tittschu, it's a german language spoken in some small mountain areas in the north west of Italy, it is so unique!
La provincia di Novara è quasi tutta lombardofona
@@ltubabbo529 Eh infatti, io mi riferivo alla zona Nord della provincia di Vercelli, che è uguale
@@outbreaklearning3937 pensavo che la provincia di Vercelli fosse completamente piemontesofona, comunque io sono di Domodossola, quindi anche noi quì siamo piemontesi lombardofoni
Com que parlo català, castellà, francès i italià, entenc bastant aquesta llengua 😍, però m'imagino que si parlés més ràpid seria molt difícil d'entendre 😅
Aguante el catalán carajo! Idioma hermoso y rico en cultura. Visca aquesta llengua!
Eso pensé yo.... si hubieran puesto a la chica que habla catalán hubiera entendido mejor a la mujer que habla Lombardo por que el lombardo tiene toques de italiano, catalán y occitano
Si, ma capisco tutto quello che scrivi :)
Siiim kkkk
What language is that???
Lombard, finally a Romance language or, me, a French speaker does not look like an alien with his pronunciation...
j'aime la langue lombarde ;)
Salud da Milàn, el frances l'è parecc bell!
Thank you Ecolinguist for always bringing this awesome content. I am from Lombardy (Pavia) and really enjoy hearing all of the different languages and seeing them compared with other romance languages. I think we can agree that these videos unite people and at the same time give value to the various regions and parts of bigger countries. What a marvelous result you achieve
I'm a proud Lombard, and hearing our language, everyday more on the internet, and knowing that everyone is more aware of it is beautiful! Ciao Simona e delpag!
Pota
@@seraph9384 Os it the only Lombard word you know hahaha?
@@pnkcnlng228 Ma no figa domani si fattura taaac.
@@pnkcnlng228 what percent of lombardy's population actually uses it?🤔
@@mahatmaniggandhi2898 Don't know actually, but it is spoken by at least 3.7 millions of people
I am really sad right now, since my grandparents used to talk lombard at home and after 20 years I almost forget it...
Può sempre recuperare, rispolverare una lingua non è così difficile 💪🏼
Pure a me manca la mia nonna…
Anche i miei nonni lo parlavano, tutte le espressioni che conosco le devo a loro. Grazie ai miei zii che lo parlano a volte rispolvero un po' il tutto
@Mocanu Stefan In Western Lombard: "Signor Gesu Crist, fioeu de Dio, pràghet per mì, on pecator". The "o" should be read like an Italian "u", the "u" like a German "ü" and the "oeu" like in French.
@Mocanu Stefan Ops I wrote "pray for us", "have mercy on me, a sinner" is "àbiet pietà de mì, on pecator".
Now I understand why in Uruguay and Argentina you say "MINGA" to something that's never going to happen or to say no. It comes from Italy, like many other words.
It comes from Northern Italy.
That is because in Argentina and Uruguay there are about 50/60% from North Italy, Lombardia, Genoa and Venetian region.
It’s a word used in Standard Italian too - “mica”, meaning “not at all”.
Minga se dice en España de toda la vida xD
@@nyska69 Bien, a mi familia gallega no se lo había escuchado pero es de uso habitual en la población de esta región. Es muy difícil separar el origen del lunfardo en el Rio de la Plata.
I really enjoy this series of people just trying to understand one another in related languages. I would love to see some non-European language families represented, though I understand it may be harder to organize.
Really fun!
omg yes these videos will never bore me
In Sicilian:
1) Coru
2) Matacubbu or Zappa
3) Giurana or Laurunchia
4) Rizzi
5) Munnizza or grascia
Lombard is a beautiful language.
"Un bel cognachino magari..."
"Eh magari, uno zibibbo...."
Salud da Milàn, tucc i lengh regional hìnn bèj e important e gh'hèmm de salvai!
Oh my, this was very hard to understand - It gets easier when you actually see the written forms and when you get to understand the other's questions. Really cool because today I just learned Lombard due to you guys!
Congratulations on this channel. I love these videos, besides being nice and funny, they are very instructive and have educational value in a fun way. This is among what it is worth on the internet.
Fantastico, Fantastico, Fantastico!!! Gracias por un video tan interesante y sobre todo por hacer del Internet un lugar mejor. Impresionante lo mucho que se puede entender
Lombard seems like a fun language to learn, especially if you already have exposure to other Romance languages
As an Italian this was soo interesting and entertaining to watch!
Some random phrases were straight up Italian while the rest was a totally different language but still Romance enough to understand, only thanks to the subtitles though xD
I'd love to see the same video concept with other languages!
I really love this kind of proyects, linkin' cultures, showing That the language is not a border is a bridge.
Lovin' it from México
Thanks to Elena for bringing me here. Really greatful with your work in Linguriosa. ❤️
I'm curious about the microphone Elisa is utilizing - the sound is super clear and her voice sounds exquisite!
Her space seems nice too. A lot of times that’s just as important as the mic. For instance, the main presenter sounded as if she were in a room with walls of stone; too much reverb.
What's the difference between using and utilizing in English?
@@agam6534 They pretty much mean the same thing although "utilize" sounds a lot more formal and wouldn't typically be used in this context.
@@andrewraymond3657 She may have noise suppressants
@@agam6534 Someone whose first language is French will probably use the fancy polysyllabic form, since it matches what they're used to in their own language. They mean exactly the same thing, however. It's usually a good idea to say "use" rather than "utilize" in ordinary speech unless you're talking to people who you think will be impressed by the extra syllables.
In Portuguese:
1 - Couro (Leather)
2 - Cunha (Wedge)
3 - Sapo (Toad) or Rã (Frog)
4 - Calafrios (Chills)
5 - Lixo (Rubbish)
In Italian:
1 - Cuoio / pelle
2 - Cuneo
3 - Rospo / ranocchio
4 - Brividi
5 - Rifiuti
In piedmontese :
1) coràm
2) cùgn
3) bàbi
4) frisson
r) mnìs
O do sapo e da rã estão trocados, não? Que eu saiba sapo é frog, e rã é toad.
Sapo e rã não são sinônimos
I had to look up what "cunha" was
I'm from Milan and I find this video sooooo interesting! I've learned new words/meaning. 😁👍 It was not easy... 😊
This one was very difficult! I love these videos!
Qué guay ver a Linguriosa aquí!
Y tiene una voz imponente
16:37 Simona is right, the french term is "coin" -we use it to split the wood. But Elisa is right too : we use "cale-porte" for the doors.
Și-am putut să învăț un cuvânt nou ("pană" cu acest sens de "coin (pour fendre le bois)").
Sometimes Lombard is very similar to occitan or french (as a french native speaker), but sometimes not so easy to understand it.
"Coin" for joinery, but also more generically "cale" to wedge and stop things from moving, including doors or cars. It was confusing for french speakers are we indeed have several words for this depending on the use :)
Lombard is actually closer in the family to French than it is to Italian. It has features with Italian now due to bilingualism.
@@BobbyBermuda1986 Thanks for the information.
i am lonbard and in Como we call it cügnöö
Heh, you've even used the Romanian diacritics (ș, î, ă, etc.). / În limba română "pană" înseamnă atât "wedge" cât și "feather". Sunt omonime, cuvinte cu aceeași formă și pronunțare, dar cu origini și sensuri diferite.
Thank you Norbert, great show as always! Please make more.
Ecolinguist: Very interesting and fun, thank you, I liked it! :)
2 my favourite language channels: Ecolinguist and Linguriosa making a collab!
Thank you for this video! It's perfect and very funny 🙃 Lombard language sounds very unusual to me and I like it. And the people who participate in the videos on this channel are always fantastic! 🤗
Sono italiano (ma non lombardo) e non è stato così immediato risolvere. Sono arrivato subito alla parola italiana perché capivo la descrizione, ma la parola finale in sé è un disastro! "Qignoel" è paradigmatico, perché la parola italiana (cuneo o tacco, "tacchia" a Roma) è molto più simile a quelle spagnole (cuña, taco) che a quella lombarda. Comunque il lombardo è gradevolissimo da ascoltare! Da italiano, per me è stata una sorpresa molto piacevole, perché, pur essendo stato moltissime volte in Lombardia, lì ho sempre ascoltato solo l'italiano. Cercherò altri canali in lombard!
Ascolta Davide Van De Sfroos, fa canzoni in comasco stupende
Wow, lombard sounds more like french than italian, I am surprised. Most likely is closely related to occitan
Wow. As an English speaker ....being able to guess correctly... this was an amazing experience for me.
Am I dreaming? Ecolinguist and Linguriosa together in the same video! 😃
I must say how much I was suffering with the second word, because from our homes it is a lot easier to guess the words, and I was repeating out loud all the time "¡cuña! ¡calza! ¡taco!" from the beginning 🤣, but of course, we have no pressure here 😉.
I was surprised about how similar sounds in general Lombard to Spanish, but when you try to understand every word it is quite easy to get lost.
This is the first video I stumble upon from this channel. Someone recommended it on Facebook and I think this is incredible to watch. Being an Italian whose grandmother from the province of Brescia in Lombardy, always spoke a local dialect until I grew up, I try to understand Lombard. Having studied French as a child, I can understand French. Being a current student of Spanish, I hear the words in Spanish too.
It's super stimulating.
Wow, I love this channel time and again!
And again, (like with Old Norse) the spoken words didn't help me that much, but written Lombard revealed much more to me. Keep going!! 👍😊
Gracias Lingu! ♥ un juego muy interesante y emocionante. Me divertí mucho. Besos! ♥
Elisa has probably been the smartest French speaking guest to make appearance on the Ecolinguist channel.
Agreed
Not to denigrate her but Lombard is surpisely close to french... it is maybe the closest language from french on this channel along with cajun. It's easier for me to understand lombard thant haïtian creole.
Most of times frech has been the outcast among romance languages
Please do: Romanian vs Aromanian vs Istroromanian vs Romanian from republic of Moldova
There are just a couple hundreds of Istro-Romanians left and the people in Moldova just speak Romanian with an accent so...
@@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146 it's not just romanian with an accent, there are some different words and slangs, I mean specifically outside of Chisinau
@@lucezarcolombo6552 well then it depends on where the Romanian should be, because a Romanian Moldavian understands that slang for the most part while a north western transylvanian or a south eastern oltenian might not
What about from Northern of Serbia :/
@@lucezarcolombo6552 Moldavians also do not speak a precisely uniform language, there are differences South versus North, East versus West, city versus village etc. So it was 300 years ago as well, as Cantemir wrote.
This was awesome! I got 80% of Lumbard 🤓
Excellent ! Merci Norbert pour cette vidéo (langues romanes) sur le lombard ! "Hola, buenas tardes" a Elena ! Et bonjour à Elisa !
WOW an episode with my actual dialect! im from milan, and while young people like myself dont speak the language anymore you can hear the old folk using it at the cafeteria or in the supermarket among themselves... i sort-of understand most here but the spelling really helped eheheh
joke for italians: MMMM CHE BUONA QUESTA CADREGA!
Ah, Brambilla Fumagalli, che piacere vederla in questi paraj
I love these videos. Keep up the good work! ❤️❤️❤️
I'm glad to see Linguriosa on this channel!
¡Linguriosa es la onda!, tiene el mejor canal de español en youtube, saludos desde Mexico guapa.
Ostia che bel video
Osti propi bel
ostreghéta m'el propi piasüü 👏
bravo! very amusing and interesting experiment. i understood the lombard explanation quite well, but was surprised by the final words (the solutions) that often sound very different from italian.
Ho imparato l'italiano nel nord Italia parlando spesso con gli anziani sulle panchine dei parchi e devo dire che questo episodio mi ha proprio riportato a quei primi tempi anni e anni fa. Fantastico. Vivan i "dialetti"!
"Gunoi" is actually a Slavic borrowing, that's why it's completely incomprehensible for other Romance speakers.
sapo come from greek not latín
"Gunoi" means "garbage" in romanian.
гной in Russian, I've read entire books in Russian and never encountered that word.
Anekceh Pyknh.
Gunoi is ,known" in Slavic languages, but look what Google say.
Garbage in several slavic languages.
Smiece/ croat.
Bokluk/ bulgar
Odpakty/ czek
Musar/ russian
Many words got borrowed by everyone in the Balcans including you.
I'll give another example.
Dosto'( enough in Slavic) is from Proto romanian ,destul'( de+ satul'/ enough,fed up, full)
Also the term , satul' ( tired of,and full/ food) from latin , satulius'
@@MBison-im2qy In Russian it means "pus" and is usually encountered in medical books.
New language comparison video, nice!
Bravo! Qué gran trabajo! Felicitaciones, Elena eres una apasionada.
Como siempre Norbert trayendonos buen contenido.🤙
Norbert s faces on the thumbnails are always awesome.
I really would like a challenge in Rumagnôl (dialect from Romagna, Emilia-Romagna) please😍
Always so interesting and funny😍😄👏👏
Specifically get one from San Marino.
@@lissandrafreljord7913 lol
@@lissandrafreljord7913 that would be interesting
Je corrige: L'émilien et le romagnol ne sont pas la même langue.
@@gaborodriguez1346 non ca ce n’est pas vrai
It's been amazing, I'm from Mexico And I only speak Spanish. It is surprising, here it is shown how beautiful the Romance languages are and how linked they are despite time, geography and culture.
She had noticed that by listening carefully, she could understand a little English but French and Lombardo have been a revelation.
Thank you, it is hypnotic to listen to you.
Un saludo desde Jalisco, el estado llamado: "la tierra del tequila y el mariachi".
El rumano... muy difícil.
Outro conteúdo maravilhoso ,como sempre!
I'm Lombard, and I understood perfectly the descriptions but never heard of the words. My grandparents speak rarely Lombard, and they use it just in some expression
Deh Brambilla, cus te gha dì? Fame un piaser va lá parlet El lumbard perché te gha scrit na röba che al par El terün
@@ALE9069 ahahah da "terrone" rido. Io di lombardo sono solo purcudighel.
@@LordSkywalker90 lol
@@ALE9069 va a ciapà i rat va ahaha
@@elenabrambilla8675 lol già
This was as always a very interesting video, even for me, an A2-B1 French speaker! Like Elisa, I found it surprisingly similar to not only French, but also to Old French. But I think it has more in common with OF in terms of phonology. Like the rolled R, U being pronounced as /y/, frequent ending dropping and the /tʃ/, /ø/ sounds. In terms of grammar, the plural forms for words ending in L where very similar. Like animal -> animaux in French and animal -> animai in Lombard. Just a lovely video in the Romance language series!
As a Spanish native speaker, it was kind of hard to get all but the more Simona speaks, more I understand :v I think my brain was processing it was not Italian or something near to it, I found some French sounds too, i think it was the first time I heard this language and it's very interesting. I hope it can survive and add more speakers as a regional language.
O Estado Italiano não reconhece os falantes da língua lombarda como minoria linguística. É também por este motivo que o lombardo é frequentemente considerado um dialeto do italiano (às vezes também pelos próprios falantes), embora faça parte de um outro sub-grupo das línguas românicas.
Perhaps a desire for a general rebirth is emerging, even if the state has been trying to convince us for 70 years that there is only one people in Italy and that this has no internal differences.
I myself am about to open an online site where to get information (get out of the logic of the "dialect"), consult dictionaries and do exercises, I hope it will be successful
@@miguelferreira4157 thanks
Elena siempre sigo tus videos estoy tan fascinado por ti ..
A l'è 'ndàcc-a à mò bé à chì óter che ì ghìa dé' 'scoltà dóma' na versiù semplificada dé chèsta lèngua, ölìe pròpe edì vot óter stàga dré a'l Bergamàsc, ca l'è mia tàt istess, pò l'acènto l'è töt òter laùr
Ta ghet resù!
po a me ma piasares a et ö bergamasch o ö bresà
Sono bresciano ma totalmente ignorante in materia 💥
Sares bel fa na roba isè en bressà o en bergamasch, el milanes l'è trop facil, el somèa n'altra lengua.
Ho dovuto rileggere la frase una seconda volta per capirci qualcosa... E vengo da Reggio Emilia, dove il Dialetto sarebbe in teoria abbastanza vicino a quelli Lombardi.
Il fatto che l'Italia releghi le lingue dello stivale al rango di semplici dialetti e abbiamo la dimostrazione che non lo sono, è riprovevole. Riconosciamo lingue estere, parlate da una parte dei nostri concittadini, ma non le nostre. Su questo bisognerebbe lottare
Tra i giovani posso assicurare che c'è un pizzico di conoscenza al riguardo, tra gli ultraquarantenni la situazione è irrimediabile. La cosa che fa ridere/piangere è che i primi parlano sicuramente male le lingue regionali rispetto ai secondi, eppure ne sono più consapevoli
As a Lombard I am pretty surprised to see a video on Lombard language (or languages to be more precise), awesome!
3 short conclusions after watching this video:
1. Ecolinguist is a great channel
2. Lombard language is extremely difficult
3. Elisa is beautiful 😍
I'm french and Lombard seems easier than italian
Elena better
@@PhilippeLarcher for a french the easier dialect Is piedmontese
@@PhilippeLarcher much more difficult
Elisa est très mignon.
Sempre interessante essa conversação em distintas e ao mesmo tempo um pouco semelhantes línguas. Anche un po' di diversione in questo incontro. Cool!!
Ouais
Большое спасибо за видео, уважаемый пан Норберт! ☺
I appreciate so much the fact that you've included Romanian in multiple videos ❤️👍🏻 Everyone seems to forget about it
I imagined the word qignœl was cuneo in Italian, but it was difficult for them to understand because they have multiple words in their languages that correspond to the word qignœl depending on the purpose for which that shape is used.
I thought she was going for zeppa, until the spanish girl asked something about "zapado" and Simona said nothing, then I had no idea lol
She mentioned the word ‘coin’. It is the word we use in Québec for what they call ‘cale’ in France. ‘Cale’ is of German origin
I know the Latin "cuneus", but I know the French "coin" only as meaning "corner", and didn't know a French or Spanish word for "wedge" or a Spanish cognate.
Yeah, in English we have all these different words, and wedge can correspond to any of the meanings but is much less common than the more specific words, which don't overlap in meaning at all.
@@pierreabbat6157 The second word in Spanish is "cuña".
I can understand Lombard because I've heard it spoken by the older members of my family my entire life, but I think these words were too difficult to guess and too specific, I had a hard time too XD But it was a nice surprise to hear Lombard in one of your videos! I can tell Simona is from the Milan area because her Lombard sounds a bit more "Italianized" to me, and less "unrefined" (I don't really know how to explain it) compared to the variants spoken in the more isolated areas of Lombardy. Or maybe it's also because she was speaking slowly and articulating all the words XD
Probabilmente tutti e due.
The Simona ("The" hehehe) is actually one of those Lombard Speakers who learned the language as an adult, e.g. she does not really have a true Lombard accent, although she seems to be getting better by the day, I must admit. Lombard spoken by Native Speakers sounds a bit differently, the "R" is more like a German "R" and Nasalization, in the West, is very strong in Words like "Bon", "Plafon", etc. among other things.
That being said, she is a tireless Promoter of the Lombard Language! She is truly a Hero: Lombards owe a lot to her! Bravissema Simona, Inans inscì, Incoe, Diman, int el Devegnir e PER SEMPER!
@@andiskiles5807 Thanks for this clarification, I found it weird that I could easily understand almost everything she said without even reading the subtitles (anzi, la scrittura è molto confusa).
@@alonsog3565 Sorry, I meant *in the West*, not in the East.
Well, the Spelling utilized in the Subtitles is a recently conceived Attempt to create a Standard Spelling for *all* Variants of Lombard.
That was a really interesting one. I could understand some of Lombard. I got all of them but the last.
Guys I am addicted to this channel, I hope you guys keep going. Spanish is my second language and I love to see how much I understand from other romance languages.
my first language is Spanish but I just learned that taco is used to mean that doorstop in Spain,-and after fall down a rabbit hole on wiktionary-i learned it's related to tacón which in my Spanish (Colombian) means heel like on boots or high-heels-apparently the cognate to qignœl (meaning wedge) in Spanish is cuña (a word I also just learned), and apparently there's also cuño, a doublet, meaning "stamp"-I thought that was estampilla/didn't know the words for the other definitions for the English word stamp, I didn't even realize the word stamp has apparently nine different meanings lol-and apparently(!) in English there's a different word for when you use wedges to stop a wheel-chock-who knew!
i love this channel lol
In portuguese we use 'cunha' for 'cuña', and 'taco' could mean 'cue', 'club', 'bat', 'putter' or 'stick'.
The Lombard language sounds like mix of Italian and French
Oui !!! 🇮🇹🇫🇷
That is Milanese, Lombard does not exist at all.
Omg Linguriosa en Ecolinguist!!!!! Mis dos canales favoritos jajja el mejor crossover 👌🏼
It was an amazing experience listening to this language.I live in Italy for many years I wasn't aware that I could be able to understand lombard so well.such a beautiful language ❤
Happy to see Linguriosa here. A moça francesa é lindíssima.
@Blanc Neige só é a verdade.
Concordo. Bela moça. E a espanhola também é muito bonita.
A ruivinha também é :)
@@ricardocampello8611 sim claro, a espanhola tem uma personalidade muito legal, se porventura não conheces recomendo o canal dela.
Lol simp
Great experiment, i love it! I missed a pprtuguese speaker but i, as a portuguese speaker from Brazil, was able to understand almost everything.
So interesting! Thank you norbert👌
Number 2 was hard. But I’m impressed at how much I understood from the point of knowing little French and Portuguese