The Appeasement Myth
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Neville Chamberlain has gone down in history as a clown who gave Hitler whatever he wanted. This simply is not the case. What was really going on? Was Winston Churchill actually the one with the wrong policy? Was millions of lives worth keeping Germany from almost completely German Danzig? Let's find out the answer.
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Sources:
A.J.P Taylor - The Origins of the Second World War
John Toland - Adolf Hitler
Patrick J. Buchanan - Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War
Margaret Macmillan - Peacemakers
Richard Tedor - Hitler's Revolution
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My great grandfather came from the Sudetenland. He and his brothers lost the farm to Jayish bankers in the early 1900's. He came to America and farmed. He always spoke the truth about who rules over us.
So your grandfather was Austrian
Czechia = Austria!!!
@@0815Catgus Yes, my last name is actually the town where my Great Grandfather is from.
@@SaturnReturns thats great, funny enough the same is true for me. And im also Austrian to be exact ⅔ Hungarian ⅓ Austrian ⅓ Bohemian
So the embodiment of Austria Hungary haha.
@@SaturnReturns by any chance do you speak someone German? Teaching German in the US was forbidden in ww1 and 2 if i remember right.
My mother in laws mother was from Danzig, she was very clear as to what happened to her family. It’s a travesty that history has been manipulated so badly.
Churchill’s biggest priority was always his personal reputation
Indeed, will do an in depth video on him sometime
And his bank account.
David Irving did TWO very thick books on Churchill
@@kenbaumann597 He has now done a third!
Isn’t it true that he was an actual Druid meddling in witchcraft ?
I now call fully relieving myself in the toilet "taking a Churchill." I hope it catches on.
I'll have to remember to use that
I find it funny the world went to war over Danzig a town almost entirely of ethnic Germans wanting to be German. Meanwhile Finland, Karelia, and the town of Viipuri, all ethnically Finnish were considered "Too small to wage a war over" as the Soviets forced them from their homes.
1.Allies palnned itnervneitons agaisnt soviet union but you know they already were in war with great power called germany.
Germany attacked Poland after breaking reeties-annexign austria,taking sudetnalnd with allies betraing chechs for poreeace and then breakign dela and annexing rest of Cheslovakia.Anyone coudl see that hitler was piosed toi attemtp to dominate europe and west didnt wanted that and ussr knew that their existence is at stake
@@nikolamilicevic1040this is very difficult to read.
@@nikolamilicevic1040 Austria, wasn't an annexation that is a myth. The Austrians voted to join Germany, it was a democratic referendum. Sudetenland was also justified. The only thing that was unjustified was invading the rest of czechoslovaskia imo.
@@gcanaday1Gobbledygook usually is.
@@drifter5375 the referendum with 99% turnout and 99% votes in favour? though even then, most austrians would have probably voted to join germany anyway
I remember that Churchill speech was the main question in my A level history exam. We had to analyse the validity of the speech. I went absolutely ham and held back no punches, I got a grade F hahahaha I didn’t give the right opinion clearly.
Based
I almost want to see it but I respect your privacy. Either way, kudos
Who was the Chairman of F o c u s ? Sir Bernard Waley C o h e n , Chairman of Royal Dutch Shell, had 3 3 degrees and.....
@@danielbwest you have to be retarded to still be this way when all the information is at your fingertips.
@@danielbwestExplain your own biases perhaps?
Ever notice how the failure of Britain and France to declare war on the Soviets after invading Poland, the Baltics and Finland is never called appeasement?
True, but Russia was rightfully getting their own back. Poland grabbed what they could after the revolution in Russia, as did Finland, the Baltics were Russian formally since the treaty of Nystad.
These statelets were for the most part someone else's dominion, changing hands to who wielded the most power, except for Poland which is a real county with it's own history, but made repeated blunders and exists in it's present form thanks to the Soviets.
baltics all surrendered right away finland happened during the war with germany. you may have something to say in poland but there was no way france and britain were bout to 2vs2 the ussr and germany.
also dont forget one thing
the allies were pussies, hitler rose to power as dictator they did nothing he breaks versailles they did nothing he annexes land they did nothing. it took them a dam while to finally do something why would they all of a sudden stop being pussies to russia the same way it toom them years to do that to germany
huh when im at war with one major super power my next step is taking on a second major super power at the same time. france lost in six weeks if the soviets were on that front it would have been 6 days. also how would they have been able to do so anyway they had no borders with the ussr.
@@azanjacThat doesn't make them right to back down then, it makes them hypocrites because they made a bunch of fuss about Germany while turning a blind eye to the Soviets.
Can you do an entire video on The Focus? Would love to see it.
Exactly what I was going to ask.
I'll do it around the same time I get to doing a biography on Churchill, which will be after I'm done with the Hitler series
Wasn't David Irving one of the first to expose "The Focus" to the public? I know with his research he expose the names of those involved.
It will get banned . The same people control this forum
looking forward to it@@ZoomerHistorian
"His pay masters" 🤔
Euphemisms are necessary to stay on youtube unfortunately
Zoomer Historian is my favourite channel
Ethan Winstanley 2 is mine ☃️
If you are both so open to truth why not read Grover Furr
@@JohnKobaRuddy That guy is a moron. I know exactly what sort of lies he pushes. Why would I bother to read such brainrot?
Now if you could just figure out what gender you are right? So goofy and cringe but thanks for letting us know who to laugh at and avoid goober.
oversimplified and its consequences have been a disaster for the mass view on World War 2
So real and true
@@ZoomerHistorian but it's okay because he says a joke every now and then.
@@gloverfox9135 Yes
@@gloverfox9135 maybe
So has Mr ZoomerHistorians Nazi propaganda and historical revisionism
Whinstin churchill who owned shares in a munitions plant! What a peaceful guy!
Which produced mustard gas!
he was scum and know to both aprove use of gas,racism and imperilism.fighting nazis is one thing he got right thgouh he fought them as per balancer of power issue not them being inuman army of killers .thiefsand gneocides.after all his anglosaon people have been liek that for centuries.
Chamberlain was no clown. He was a very fine politician.
chamberlain was a typical english bastard. he supported the continued british occupation of ireland and gave away land that was not his to give to germany.
He was first a man of Britain and then a politician.
That is why the Bagel boys had him exchanged for Churchill
Definitely agree, whatever else you want to say about him, Chamberlain had at least the sense to see pulling the British Empire into another continental war over Slavic quarrels was a bad idea. Of course, those in charge wanted war, and he was ousted in favor of their warmongering pick
@@ahmadsuleman9045 "Slavic quarrels" had nothing to do with any of it.
This was a bankers war on Europe and Christianity and no other thing. The question is whether Chamberlain was aware of it and the real causes and concerns? I think the answer must be yes to both and that's why he was removed. He either didn't do enough to convince the tribe of his loyalties to them or outright understood them and the need to end the menace over Europe, for which Hitler so desperately fought.
If memory serves, Chamberlain had multiple one on one conversations with Hitler and due to this, and his clear support of him, the tribe at least had to make the assumption that he was compromised with truth. He was lucky enough to have survived it, where they have been known to remove from this Earth those who oppose the tribe.
He was a fool.
So imagine a British (Austrian) guy becomes head of the United States (Germany) despite the birth requirement due to the Special Relationship, and then he seeks to unite all Anglo (German) people into one Greater England (Germany), so he manages to annex Canada (Austria) in a blxxdless cxxp, while Australia (Switzerland) is left out of it off to the side indefinitely, and then when he uses the North American (Greater German) military to try to liberate the English and Boer nations (German diaspora) from their multikulti reverse-colonial overlords and encroaching Marxist oppressors in the UK and South Africa (Poland, Czechia, etc.), this immediately causes the EU (Britain) and eventually China (US) to declare wxr on the US for taking military actions in their respective continents (Africa being a future colony of China in our current timeline). That's quite a crazy backstory.
That will be the lore of Some franchise universe similar to own but different due to some concepts implemented 🗿👌😎👍
Zoomer is a great antidote to Mark Felton, a dyed-in-the-wool Anglophile.
Anglophile? Lol, mark felton is a leftist.
Its okay to be an Anglophile and love your people, but also recognize the misdeeds of the past
@@cheekibreeki4638Like its ok to be an American patriot while still condemning the occupation we have been under for a century now
Everyone should read "A Last Appeal to Reason" by AH.
Thank you very much for all of your presentations, ZH. No matter how unpopular, truth is truth.
Thanks very much mate
My god, I've just found your channel, and you are doing wonderful, fantastic work. It's so heartwarming to see someone keeping the truth alive since they started scrubbing youtube since 2017. ✋
Thank you very much my friend
This is the most important channel on you tube. Everyone share this man's content. Please.
you're doing God's work with these videos
Thank you very much my friend
Thank you IMMENSELY for bringing up the focus group. This is so core to the future of the world in the 1930's that is TOTALLY ignored by the leaders.
Something like the round table before ww1?
It was no "appeasement" of Hitler. It was just because no one wanted to go to war because of territories the germans rightly took. Even after war broke out, the french didnt want to wage war because of Danzig. It was only when the drunkard and warmonger Churhill came, that the war started to erupt.
But you have made a very nice and infomative video! I love your channel. Please keep up the good work 👍
If they didn't want to why did france declare war?
Churchill wasn't Prime Minister until the may of 1940. By then the British had already declared war. Clearly then he wasn't the only one itching for war.
@@Jan-nk5jl Because they felt they needed to it doesnt mean they wanted too
I am polish american and i am sick and tired of the slavic myth. Can you make a video debunking the myth of slavic inferiority?
‘What were Hitlers Plans in the East’ touches on it but I will do a proper one eventually
read Mein kampfh..oh wait he shits on slavs there better run to some mental acrobatics youtube or post war nazi retractions.
Well maYbe the poles, US southern slava werent as lucky...
We all know what myth we really want to see explained.
Which???
I'm guessing which one you refer to, and it will have absolutely no chance of staying on RUclips or even Rumble.
@@MnrBugi bitchute and odyssey are the best.
@@nextworldaction8828 how unsealed poorly made barracks were able to hold hydrogen cyanide within it without killing everyone on the outside of the structure as well.
Yeah, Zoomer will have to publish that specific myth deconstruction on Odysee or BitChute.
Amazing job Zoomer. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the endless support my friend
loving the vids mate in our history GCSE classes we were always taught chaimberlain was a fool and a weak leader but that couldn't be further from the truth, a true british hero who put the lives of millions of people first
Quite conveniently, the autor did not mention what happened after the Munich conference. Not even year later, in March 1939 Hitler moved to disband czecho-slovak state, one in which there was no significant German minority left. This fact plainly contradicts author's thesis saying that Hitler's moves were purely concentrated on regaining ethnic german lands. Reality was quite different. Argument about german minorities abroad the Reich was simply a justification for Hitler's demands, so he could cover his intentions of dominating Europe with rhetoric of "restoring justice" and fixing unjust treaty. The ultimate goal was to gain time and resources for incoming war.
Constant zoomer W
Thank you very much mate
A few weeks ago, Putin schooled Tucker Carlson on who really started WW2: It was Poland, not Germany! Putin told Carlson it was Poland's fault for NOT negotiating over Danzig or the Polish Corridor. But few took notice of what Putin said. It even flew right over the head of Carlson!
I heard that and thought it was a failure on Carlson’s part to have not questioned him on that. Then again, the interview is about a modern conflict so I get why he didn’t want to get into WWII.
It’s not a secret that this is what happened. It’s just most historians would say it was a pretense for Hitler going to war, that there was no genocide, and even if there was, who cares..
Why would it be Poland's fault that they didn't give away their land to German gangsters? Everyone saw what happened to Czechoslovakia, do you think that Poland had a death wish? Do you know what the Reich did after Poland said no?
Do you know about the history between the Poles and the Germans? I certainly wouldn't trust Germany if I were Polish in the 1930s.
Lmao what
Yes I'm sure Hitler and the Nazis were such victims going out of their way to kill countless Poles, like the Russians did, and "just wanted their land back". Even if that's all they wanted, which it wasn't, then why tf did they go out if their way to annihilate anyone and everyone in Warsaw.
The Polish elite was dumb thinking that it could occupy German and Russian lands long term.
I feel like Neo in the Matrix taking the red pill and seeing the world as it really is for the first time. Im glad but heartbroken at the same time.
Keep doing research. This is not all true, no one has full truth.
Hitler had signed a pact with the Soviets to split Eastern Europe up at this point... he did not just want a little slice of Poland lol
I know, right?
ZoomerHistorian's video going over the book in which British military veterans of WWII were contacted and asked whether the war was worth fighting was crazy to listen to - I thought that these people would give some sort of "meh" answer, but instead there was an almost unanimous "no".
Have to disagree on some the Czech claim for Sudettenland only being defensive. Sudettenland was allways part of the Czech Kingdom even before anything such as German state existed. Germans there were invated there by Czech kings...
Sudetenland was part of Kingdom Bohemia. The term Czech Kingdom is rather recent political term used by Czechs only, because it brings the connotation of Czech language. Language matters.
@@tomasmiller5502 yeah i meant bohemian sorry for the mistakes but still... czechs lived there and germans were invited there by king of bohemia and sudeteland was part of that kingdome long before the german state even existed... so its not like czechoslovakia had no claim on that teritory...
@@Danimajer2 Bohemia wasn't defined as "Czech" by the Austro-Hungarian emperor Franz Joseph II. He considered Bohemia and Prague as German.
@@user-wj6dt5bq3w well it doesnt matter if he didnt considered it as czech - czechs/bohemians lived there... bohemian state formed and exist loooong before it was even part of habsubrg empire
Chamberlain's splendid diplomatic efforts were aimed towards preventing war, but he also had the presence of mind to prepare for the worst. Chamberlain was the man who oversaw the development of Britains heavy bomber program, without which winning WW2 would have been much more difficult.
So glad you post these videos. I needed to learn all this by myself over the past years and only could do it because of my great interest in this time period. Now you share this knowledge for everyone in your "short" videos. Thank you. Please consider doing insta reels or tiktoks if not done already where you post small and catchy clips so even more people learn about the true history. This could be the first time ever that history is not only written by the Victor's but real historians. The internet gives you the power. Use it
This video really proves how true Europa : The Last Battle is, shout out to Ethan Winstanley for showing me to this gem of a channel, keep up the good work mate!
I am sorry, but this is not it. There are a lot of myths about hitler and especially the start of ww2, but the whole narrative you presented here about czechoslovakia is simply wrong and i cant belive you call yourself a historian. By no means is the mainstream narrative true, but the jumps in logic in order to justify yourself is horrible propaganda. Like vene just the use of the term "rightful historical german lands" in context of czechoslovakia is laughable.
@@bajocontinuo3 read a book. He makes wild claims with absolutely nothing to back it up, except sometimes secondary literature. Absolutely shameful, that he should call himself a historian. There is copious amount of propaganda around everything in history, but his conclusion, that everything is false and i am right, except i didnt do any historical work. He just ended up spewing propaganda from the other side, which is just retarded.
I cant recommend any books in english on the topic, because i read most of them in czech, but with just a basic understanding of theories of history and international relations, you can discern that while some stuff is thought provoking and insightful, the co clusions are not based in reality and entirely untruthful.
@@bajocontinuo3 Like stuff i mentioned earlier, that Czechoslovakia is rightful historical german land, like come on ...
And how he mentioned that germans were opressed in czechoslovakia: they most certainly were not. They were not equal, and the state was definitely nationalisg, but its comparable to the conditions of czechs in Austrian monarchy antebellum. You can for exple see this how sudetengerman parties were either in state-supporting opposition, or in government. The only parties that rejected the state, existed just after creation about 2 to 5 years, and than after the year 35, when Hitler started to fund and radicalize new german politicians.
And once again, i recognise the propaganda on the allied side, just you canot ignore the propaganda on the other side and just jump to conclusions. I myself am not a fan of czechoslovakia and mourn that it came to existence, but even more i mourn the aversion to truth and actual historical research before jumping to forming conclusions and huge narratives.
@@tadeasvecerak4627 Whats your point then? If you reject it being "rightful historical German lands" and " mourn that Czechoslovakia came to existence". So what land is it then in your books?
@@user-bk4us9vv8t Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia are lands of the Bohemian crown, and as such, the rightful heirs to these lands is Karl Habsburg. You know that there are more options, than being either a kvasi-democratic freemason and a german nazi? The collapse of Austria-Hungary was the worst geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century
@@tadeasvecerak4627typical ungrateful Czech
Your civilisation was a gift from Germany
Great video as always. Could you possibly do a video on Danzig at some point? I feel a lot of people don't realise why it's so significant. If anything, they act like it was a Polish city and not a German one.
Of course my friend, the bigger videos I did lately on Austria and then Czechoslovakia are all part of my life of Hitler series, so naturally any events like that will come further down the timeline! Danzig in a few weeks I’d imagine
My mother in laws mother was from Danzig. Horrific what happened there.
@@Ned.1274 Hopefully this doesn’t come across as insensitive but do you mind sharing some of the things she experienced/witnessed? It’s really hard to find the truth about what Danzig citizens really thought. I even regrettably gave money to the NYT to use their time machine to read articles from back then but of course they were all just trying to fan the flames. Cheers!
The Danzig Bromberg Massacre is probably the worst in 20th century.
If you look past 1900 it is clear Danzig was a Germanic city.
Those folks who lambast Chamberlin for being weak do not take into account that it would have been politically impossible to attack Germany in 1938.
More people need to see this
I have just discovered your site. At last, someone who's research matches mine!
Churchil was a git.
This is honestly something I've never understood we went to war with the Germans to save Poland and then we gave it to the Communists then we ended up in a cold war with the Communists none of it made any sense until I watch the Europa the last battle now after I'm still doing research it's starting to make more sense
Another video idea is the lifelong allied imprisonment of Rudolf Hess who defied Hitler and flew to the UK to create a peace deal. It was a great injustice.
Also, a video on Rudolf Hess on his life in general would be interesting. He was a quirky individual. Single, biographical episodes about major figures surrounding WWII would be awesome generally.
A biography is on the list but I did do a video on the flight
I recommend The Life and Death of My Father, Rudolf Hess
Wolf Rüdiger Hess
@@6876I I just ordered a book on Hess' time in prison no less than 10 minutes ago, weird that I got this notification
But yes, I will read that
@@ZoomerHistorian it's a short read. 👌
A last ditched suicide mission of this kind could only have been committed by someone spurred on by an unwavering desire for peace and a love for their enemy.
“But, but, but! Why did the Nazis invade Bohemia following the German annexation of the Sudetenland!!!” Screams the remaining ostriches as the bury their heads back in the sand. Ps will you make a video on what actually happened following German troops moving into the Sudetenland?
Yeah the video before this covered the Sudetenland in detail and that was part of the Hitler series which is obviously in chronological order, so soon enough it'll be the next Czech crisis, Danzig etc
Without the German majority this state had no right to exist.
Because they needed to steal Czech weapons and money to fight their future wars. Its not rocket science 😂
@von_speck its also why Czechs were never conscripted and treated decently well under the Nazi occupation, compared to the Poles or French at least. Keep them happy and at work and you can get 1/3 of your weapons from them, was the logic of the nazi high command.
@@floppypancakes9509 That's not the whole story. The Czechs still had an alliance with France and the Soviet Union. There had been German fears since 1935 that Soviet troops would pour into Romania and race toward Czechoslovakia to wage war on Germany.
"Hitler had no plans for the British Empire or France", Sir, you are indeed well regarded
Regardless of what anyone thinks of the man. Neville Chamberlain was a decent Christian man who did what he thought was right to prevent another part of the Great European Civil War. Rip.
P.S. Do you think you could do a video on Neville and his father Joseph?
Don’t give him too much credit, he was the one who issued the war the war guarantee to Poland, and made no effort to remedy this mistake, and he ultimately declared war on Germany
@@rhysnichols8608 To be fair he was dying of cancer and was pushed around by Churchill and other warmongers.
@@crusader2112 Do you know if Neville Chamberlain was then already ill from the cancer that would kill him in November 1940?
@@crusader2112
Not an excuse, when a matter such as a potential world war is at stake, all personal considerations are out of the picture. I couldn’t care if he was in a wheel chair and blind, he still should not have let himself be pushed around. I don’t care about one mans cancer when 60 million lives are on the line
@@rhysnichols8608 You’re right that he shouldn’t have let himself be pushed around, I just don’t hate the guy.
Best channel on youtube. So pertinent to everything going on now.
When you put all of this into context and examine it critically you begin to unravel the biggest myth of the lot of them. The one myth that cannot be criticized by demand of law in some countries.
oy vey, stop noticing things!
What's the biggest myth of the lot of them/he one myth that cannot be criticized by demand of law in some countries?
Excellent work. Do you have a different place to upload this stuff if it was ever taken down?
Someone reuploads them to rumble but I'm not breaking any rules and youtube seems to have improved greatly in that regard so hope it doesn't come to that
@@ZoomerHistorian Odysee is a good alternative as well.
Bitchute even better
Definitely subscribed!
Skipping over the partition of Czechoslovakia is a miss step. It’s the only imperialist part I see the Austrian painter made.
Whilst I will never dishonour the memory of my great-grandparents who lived and fought through this war, there is nothing unpatriotic about acknowledging that we were duped by the interests of the financial elites of the world to turn a local war into a world war. All of our guarantees to Poland should never have been unconditional, and we should have forced them to sit at the negotiating table and to have helped mediate negotiations. So many pointless deaths from not only WW2 but the horrors of communist rule across the world proceeding it.
You are doing your part in the great work that is not hiding the truth. If your reality is based on lies, you live outside of reality.
"It was real in my mind"
Reminds me of gerrymandering in a way. Redrawing lines on a map that leave people without representation.
the point of drawing these arbitrary lines is to deprive a nation of manpower.
I'd be very interested to hear more about this Focus Group. Excellent video and proves yet again the popular narrative on basically everything is LIES
If only the masses could know this.
They could, if they wanted to.
Bottom Line here: It was Hitler who invaded Poland. It was Putin who invaded Ukraine. Why blame Churchill, or Chamberlain? Sure, you could argue that it was a bad decision for Britain to declare war on Germany. At the same time, the evil deed was done. Hindsight is 20/20. Would Hitler had stopped at Poland? He probably would have. I have a lot more understanding for Chamberlain after watching this video. Excellent!
Because both invasions are over one central issue, the well being of the invading countries people.
In russias case they tried for almost a decade to resolve the issue peacefully, the current leader of the Ukraine even promised to carry out these agreements during his campaign. Of course now we know that it was all stalling technique by both the Kiev regime and Nato, as high ranking officials from both have now admitted that it was all to stall and give time for the Ukraine to build up its forces and invade the donesk and luhansk regions. Go look up the Minsk agreements and Angela merkels recent comments on them.
In the case of Crimea they have always seen themselves more as a part of Russia than the Ukraine and there are even polls carried out by western NGOs before 2014 that show the majority would want to join Russia if given the chance.
We can see the repression of Russian speakers in the eastern parts carried out by the Kiev regime in full view , banning the Russian language and even banning and closing down russian orthodox churches that have operated for hundreds of years in the region with priceless relics being confiscated and church goers and priests harassed in church, thrown in prison and even executed.
Evidence of all of these atrocities can be easily found online and even reported by western sources, mostly prior to 2022 ofc.
@@BoleDaPole
Russia should remove their troops and Ukraine should've held elections in accordance with it's laws, Russia was sanctioned for disobeying. We don't need a conspiracy to explain that.
Crimeans had their vote already in 1991... Should we give that opportunity whenever a 51% of the city want's to join someone else? Like during the winter joining the Australia to fly there for a weekend and then back to Ukraine for a spring offensive?
I'm a Russian speaker from the "Eastern part", means that I want to be in Russia? Russia is a visa free borderless shthole, I can go there already thats where my family lives, I want abetter life for Ukraine... thanks though
Sorry I just read about priests being executed... you just high on RT farts... gotta figure that out from the secret Merkel's confession
"Germany had no claims on france" are we just gonna ignore alsace-lorraine or how every german born after the end of the great war despised france over versailles and wanted revenge?
Not at all, Hitler had explicitly written off Alsace-Lorraine in public and in private ever since the start of the movement
@@ZoomerHistorian what about the revanchism amongst the German youth at the time?
Well co sodering what the french did using colonial troops do you blame them?@@delta2372
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who noticed all this.
The myth of the German villainy book explains some of all this
This is just wow, someone who puts the TRUTH ON THE FIRST PLACE. You have my congratulations sir, as a proud zoomer nonetheless.
Multumesc frate
@@ZoomerHistorian as and idea for a new video, you could talk about the controversial legionary rebellion in Romania and Germany's implication in it, look up into it
Thank god ive found a new based channel
Welcome my friend
@@ZoomerHistorian good night sar.
Surprised you havent been banned yet. Good work bro!
This is just plain silly to claim that appeasement was a myth. Even if there was some large ethnic minority in any particular country, that can never be justification for a neighboring country to annex the land they reside in or to invade. All such arguments aside, Hitler showed his intentions later when he invaded neutral countries and Russia. The appeasement charge is legitimate when it recognizes that imperialist countries can NEVER by appeased by giving them a little bit of territory without cost. It shows weakness and invites more aggression. Chamberlain was simply a glaring example in history, by no means the only one.
Due to President Wilson 12 points, which also indirectly led to decolonization, meant that if the people of a land wanted to be in a certain homeland, they have a right to it. You cannot call a nation imperialist for rejoining its own people, anymore then India invasion of Goa being imperalist.
So the British Empire who was ruling 30% of Earth in 1939 is telling others “You cannot be appeased! It invites more aggression” a bit hypocritical isn’t it?
Where could I learn more about the ethnic Germans being massacred by the thousands in Poland in the lead up to the 1939 invasion?
The only "evidence" of that is fabricated propaganda by the Germans to justify an invasion of Poland. I'm yet to see a single historian prove these claims.
A conversation between Joseph P. Kennedy (father of John F. Kennedy) and Herbert Hoover:
"Kennedy (Joseph P. Kennedy, US Ambassador to the UK) said that after the Germans had occupied Prague and the great cry of appeasement had sprung up in the world and after the Germans had pressed their demands for Danzig and a passage through the Corridor, that (Franklin D.) Roosevelt and Bullitt (William C. Bullitt, US Ambassador to France) were the major factors in the British making their guarantees to Poland and becoming involved in the war. Kennedy said that Bullitt, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the Poles not to make terms with the Germans and that he Kennedy, under instructions from Roosevelt, was constantly urging the British to make guarantees to the Poles. Kennedy said he had received a cable from Roosevelt to 'put a poker up (Neville) Chamberlain’s back and to make him stand up.' Kennedy saw Chamberlain on numerous occasions, urging him in Roosevelt’s name to do all this with the implication that the United States would give the British support. He said that after Chamberlain had given these guarantees, Chamberlain told him (Kennedy) that he hoped the Americans and the Jews would now be satisfied but that he (Chamberlain) felt that he had signed the doom of civilization.
Kennedy claimed that he was constantly urging Roosevelt not to be engaged in this question, but his urgings were to no avail. Kennedy said that if it had not been for Roosevelt the British would not have made this the most gigantic blunder in history." - Herbert Hoover, Freedom Betrayed, 1964
By the way, Kennedy told the same story to James Forrestal. Forrestal wrote in his diary on December 27 1945:
"What Kennedy told me in this conversation agrees substantially with the remarks Clarence Dillon had made to me already, to the general effect that Roosevelt had asked him in some manner to communicate privately with the British to the end that Chamberlain should have greater firmness in his dealings with Germany. Dillon told me that at Roosevelt’s request he had talked with Lord Lothian in the same general sense as Kennedy reported Roosevelt having urged him to do with Chamberlain. Lothian presumably was to communicate to Chamberlain the gist of his conversation with Dillon." - The Forrestal Diaries, 1952
The situation in Donetsk is from the exact same playbook as Danzig, right down to the British killing any chance of peace.
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It must be remembered that Britain was still processing the psychological trauma of WW1 - the loss of close to 1 million young men killed scarred the entire nation for 2 generations.
Lore of The Appeasement Myth momentum 100
This channel will be required viewing for any future friends or girlfriends for me lol...thanks for saving me the time, I used to have to explain all of this myself and it was tiring.
So why did Hitler later invade the rest of non German Czechoslovakia after already receiving the Sudetenland
No doubt to protect it from Winston Churchill!
Germany feared the economic and military potential of the Soviet Union, and understood that war with Russia would be inevitable. The Russian military was eager for war and revenge, as they had been humiliated by the forces of the Central Powers in WW1. Humiliatingly having to withdraw from the war early and completely, after declaring war on Austria-Hungary and Germany.
In December 1918, three months after WW1 ended, the Soviet Republic under Lenin invaded Finland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia. This was the catalyst for Germany's decision to begin re-armament in secret, in contravention of the Versailles Treaty.
Hitler's expansion into the East was a combination of creating a front with the Soviet Union, and the unwillingness of these countries to join the Axis against the USSR. Germany could not afford for the eastern European countries to ally with the Soviet Union, so if they could not be convinced to join the Axis, they needed to be occupied. Standard "denial of resources" military strategy.
He's done a video on it!
Churchill might have been a warmonger, but he was great at his job!
Ironically we find ourselves here again with the Russians & people of old Rus'. Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians are one people. I pray the conflict there ends soon. BTW I have come to believe that Churchill was one of the worst world leaders in human history. Millions of deaths can be attributed to his reluctance to negotiate with Germany.
Wasn't Chamberlain still the PM when they went to war? And given August 29th Hitler gave his conditions and theeeen 2 days later invaded show that he was ready to invade?
Takes longer than 2 days to prep all those guys
I find the video very interesting, but if all Hitler wanted was that small part why did he keep going?
Using the modern war in Ukraine as an example, I do not believe Putin will keep going past Ukraine... Hitler did, and in fact had signed a pact with Russia to split Eastern Europe by this point if I am not mistaken?
I need some sources on those claims about personal grudges and churchhill getting funds to promote a war. That seems exceptionally revisionist and narritive manipulating. 4:00
I might have commented this on an earlier video of yours, but the british political situation in the 30s was completey beyond salvation. Neville Chamberlain was a coward who didn't know how to say no, and Churchill was a warmonger who treated war like a game. Having these two politicians be the most powerful people of the most powerful empire in the world is a recepie for a global disaster.
"A strong sate protects the peace while the pacifists with their weakness are preparing us for war" -Eric Zemmour
What was wrong with not saying “no”? AH’s only plans were to restore Germany back to its original state prior to WW1.
I don't think Chamberlain was a coward who didn't know how to say no. He didn't want to start another war, especially not when the German demands were not insane, but actually reasonable and just.
Completely correct, in fact Chamberlain was at the same time steadily rearming the country in case of war, people treat him like he was some kind of oblivious buffoon when really he was just trying to avoid another bloodbath in Europe.@@aapoahola9725
@@danielbwest exactly, the coping here is immense
Every single British empire ruler was literally a warmonger
Churchill was just another colonialist rat
There's a LONG history of appeasement and it's almost always worked. The way people act like it's abad policy because it "failed" here is so silly
Excellent video.
Thank you for your different perspective. Do you also handle the economy argument in your videos? I mean I would love to hear your perspective on the "Nazi Germany needed perpetual wars because her economy was in shambles and she needed more and more countries to conquer and loot" statement.
I mean that's a pretty big reason, considering how crucial the MEFO bill pyramid scheme was to keeping the German economy running
I disagree with the way you excuse the invasion of the entire Czecho-Slovakia. Just because Czechs treated Sudetes Germans poorly(which you provided zero evidence for) doesn't justify the invation of thw whole country. Coinsidentaly Czechia had very potent industrial complex which became very useful for Hitler's millitary machine. Could that have anything to do with the invasion?
Thank you very much.
Great work
Thank you my friend
This is the first time I’ve heard Poles ethically cleansing
Very interesting argument and perspective
No it’s not. All this guy does is parrot and repeat German propaganda and nazi sympathizer bullshit. All of the information this guy uses can be found in “The Greatest Story Never Told” which is a 8 hour “documentary” dedicated to repeating axis lies and propaganda and denying the holocaust. Seriously, every video this guy makes is pro Hitler and repeats Nazi lies.
WC's biological father was George Smith, a gardener. Hence Winston Smith in 1984. Jenny consoled Randolph with the gift of Jack although Randolph was big in Parliament while George was big in Jenny.
Excellent work
Quick question. Did the Germans in Poland not put up any fight at all? How were they bullied like this? I understand they had no outside support until the war started, but surely with so many of them they had opportunity to collectivize and fight back?
8:22 where did you hear that the poles did this?
Would you rather believe our manipulated history?
@@uzuwuejo what
Read David Irving if you can find any books. Hitler's War on Russia tells it.
@@jaapvandenbergh7430 David Irving is a holocaust denier so I don’t trust him
It’s called revisionism. There’s also a guy currently in power that also blamed Poland for starting ww2 lmao
Excellent channel! Please name the members of the shadowy “Focus“ group.
whats the discord?
He has an acc? Noice
It's for patreons, subscribestar, youtube members etc, I send it to people as soon as they sign up
I think that the Munich conference was a severe betrayal, France had a military alliance with Czechoslovakia and whether or not it was right for the Sudetenland Germans to join Germany, which no all even wanted to join Germany, some just wanted to have autonomy within Czechoslovakia, they left them out to dry forcing them to cede a significant amount of their industry and their main defence against Germany who was already incapable of following treaties, such as when they re militarised the Rhineland which can only really be seen as an offensive act against Belgium and France.
@thesnownigro7932Germans have literally never given self determination to another ethnic group without force from the outside. After WW1 the Germans reaped what they have sowed.
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not exacly as punshment were due to be impsoed on coutnry wchih started war aka asutria hungary with germans as leadign power along iwth their north german backers.
german aka sutrians opressed and terorised chech populaiuon for cnturies prior treatign htme as second rate citizens and they needed assuarnce of geography germans wont invade again easy if you dotn rember germany just lost war same war in whcih they imposed far harsher tretmnt on their enemies-see brest litovsk peace.
The estabilishment of czechoslovakia was a mistake, the destruction of it an even bigger one.
The danger of appeasement is a very real thing. It does not mean two respectful and honorable people working things out. It means attempting to placate by granting concessions often at the expense of principle, which means at least one side is a thug. The treaty of Versailles was too much by all accounts, but that does mean Hitler then had cause to invade territories. He was in France and Italy and Africa. Thugs can be very good at making you feel sorry for them. Appeasement sounds good, until the thug then just keeps asking for more. Gangs, mafia, criminals, etc. it’s not a good idea. The earlier you stand up to thuggish people the better.
Brother are you not gonna mention what happend after Munich
Thank you.
I really enjoy this channel!
Very interesting topics.
Since I am very interested in history, I always wanted to know the real reasons why wars, for example, started.
So thank you very much :)
2:00 that’s mad
Your videos are so very important. We have grown up being fed a fantasy story .
a world war over an eastern european country whose borders were arbitrarily drawn.. (ukraine) ..
Lessons from history
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Ukraine is different as we can see nobody claiming they should send troops to Ukraine to fight, even Ukraine never asked for NATO to help out other than the equipment. So current plan on Ukraine is to give them just enough so they could hold of to an extent but never to give them anything that could bring even bring parity in war. All these years Ukraine is fighting as an underdog with less equipment and soldiers and general capabilities than russia. The only safety guarantees the West has provided are to russia, restricting Ukraine. So It's not the same situation at all plus there was no treaty of Versailles situation in case of russia. They were treated with exception after the fall of the soviet union.
Astonishing to hear that in English. Thank you.
Well, everything is suddenly a myth now huh?
My friend, the entire history of humanity was fabricated
What about German occupation of the rest of Czechoslovakia?
First of all to say that Czechoslovakia had no claim on Sudetenland is a straight out lie aswell as German "return" to Germany. You cannot say someone returned to a state which it was never part of. On the contrary Sudetenland was always part of Bohemian Kingdom and they were invited in 13th century to settle the borderlands. I am not trying to say that Germans did not have a right to self determination, but I cannot stay quiet in view of such obvious lie.
Sudetenland before WW1 was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire which got split up and states such as Czecho-Slovakia created. It seems a natural consequence that tensions would arise when the Czechs were oppressing the majority of Germanic people within the region. In that regard the Germanic Sudeteners felt closer to Germany than Czechia.
Naturally the Czech gov't wouldn't want to let go of the territory with it's ressources, and would prefer it's own people dominating the region.
Ethnic conflicts are good for the war business.
@@L6FT I know it was kinda childish thinking like "now its our turn to opress" It should have been done differently. But that does not change the fact, that sudetenland was always part of Bohemian Kingdom.
@@vizualnihistorie Bohemia doesn't mean Czech. The dual monarchy of Austria-Hungary was ruled by a German emperor, Franz Joseph II.
@@user-wj6dt5bq3w Yes it does, Čechy is the name for Bohemia in Czech.
@@vizualnihistorie Irrelevant since Franz Joseph II denied that Bohemia was Czech and refused to give the Czechs equal status to the Hungarians in the empire. It was a dual monarchy, not three.