『osu!』Ryuk Reveals Best Switches For osu!
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2020
- 『osu!』In this video Ryuk talks about what switches are good and what are bad (mx silvers) and what implictions they have to your streaming capabilities.
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people forget about mouse switches sometimes
If you don't use MX Speeds in your mouse...
I will hate your opinion
just use kailh reds
Ohmron switches are the best
rubberdome at its finest.
what about brain switches smh
"If you're not comfortable with your grip, change your grip"
I've been trying for 6 months
it just so happens my really uncomfortable grip is also the grip i play best on ;-;
@@CyberDragonis same
I’m ur 69th like
Use claw and get over ot
Reds: soft boy
Blue: loud boy
Brown: Awkward boy
Silver: Fast boy
Black: *CHAD BOY*
blacks are heavy af
im getting blacks cant wait
@@mikko5384 they sound really good ngl the thock
@@imracist6488 yup
I have gateron black inks V2 and I spring swapped them from 70g to 55g and they are perfect
Just like in cs:go I'm stuck in silver
Oo I'm actually early for once since my slow fingers
respect
I switched to cherry blacks yesterday for training since I just got a new keypad with hot swappable switches, after having played on cherry speed silvers for ~3 years. I found that my tapping style has developed to adapt to the short actuation distance such that my fingers usually fully come off the keycaps to release reliably, and yet I still bottom out like crazy because I was using the sound and feeling for feedback. The cherry blacks feel more synced to the game for me because I was trying to time my tapping to that feedback, but the actuation point is almost completely on the other end of the key travel. I also like that the higher actuation force of the cherry blacks help propel my fingers upward on the release where before with the cherry speed silvers I had to lift my fingers with more strength, causing my forearm to become tired faster. Other than that, I don't feel that much difference except for 250 bpm or higher (where I'm quite inconsistent anyway) when I start to gallop more severely than normal and sometimes even end up unintentionally doubletapping. This is probably because at that bpm, I change my tapping technique to one that minimizes travel, and that's where I'm fighting the cherry blacks the entire time.
tldr: played on cherry speed silvers ~3yrs, switching to cherry blacks. Accuracy is easier (not for the reason you think), and I feel less tired tapping. Speed silvers are actually the training arc for cherry black endgame.
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i already fc'd with ez mod
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I already FC'd it
already did :)
but I'll still like thx for the vid
I use a uncommon switch, halo true switches. Actuation is high up and has the weight of red switches, but bottoming out takes a lot more force, it kind of feels like you hit a wall when you try and go past actuation
really solid advice I needed, thanks RyuK :)
I started using silvers about 5-6 months into playing the game. But, after a while the short actuation distance made my finger control very lazy. I noticed that my burst control and overall accuracy went down. It never really taught me to press down fully, more like twittle my fingers close to the bpm I was trying to stream. I feel like silvers are better for those who have more finger control to begin with. But, it's not a good switch to learn on. Start on blues, reds, or blacks, imo. It's kind of like someone wanting to become a racing driver and suddenly being put in an F1 car with no experience. Yeah, they're going to go fast. But, they're going to crash, and spin out, a lot.
I ordered silvers because when I stream I bottom out but only let the key rise a little b4 tapping again and bottoming out. I noticed thst with my current switches I would not let it rise enough and the key wouldn't activate hence why I'm getting silvers
@@nacho6311 it could be that your switch doesn't apply enough force if you haven't tried a heavier switch
Interestingly I learned more finger control with Silvers. It's because it forces you to have more control that it became this way. I SS DT maps with Silvers, which I previously could not.
I use gateron blues to to increase stamina because of feed back. I can actually stream or burst 230 or 240 on blues and soon enough I’m gonna switch to reds soon, maybe I’ll get more stamina on reds
I got black switches after watching this video,but after watching a few more videos about switches I'm rethinking my desition because its REALLY heavy,I haven't got the switches myself yet,but I'm really worried,will black switches decrease my overall skill at first?can you stream high bpm with black switches?
I have gateron yellows and they are good, but it's hard to practice alternating because of its light key press. You tend to mash it and actually not alternate. But if cant afford to buy a heavier switch keyboard, then linear switches like yellows are a decent start!
Gateron yellows are 60g for bottom out what-
@@off7131 99.99% sure he's talking about optical yellows
For the actuation force you can just change the springs if you have some
I wonder what 2020 Ryuk would have thought about people playing with 0.1mm rapid trigger if he wasn’t a fan of the use of mx silvers lol
i have both kailh speed silver and gateron milky blacks both lubed
should i spring swap the 65g of blacks to speed silver? just to make it heavier?
im using it right now and i kinda like it or should i just use gateron milky black
i played with zealios 67g for like 3 months and I tried switching back to gateron reds and I can't for whatever reason, I find myself streaming slower than I would with the zealios despite the gat reds being 20g lighter. I don't understand, I bought a keypad with cherry mx browns, hopefully I can stream higher bpm
Your fingers are now accustomed to the feel of the heavier zealios. It takes time to get used to the feel of other switches. Like for instance if you go from laptop keys to mechanical keys it takes time.
your fingers are more used to the increased pressure you need to put on the key to press it, and the feel of it actually maxing out, whereas with the reds your fingers aren't accustomed to it, so they'll take a little bit of time to process when to actually let go and repeat the click
so i have romer g for years now, but i want to change, idk what to go for tho i like the feel of romer g but i find it very difficult to do high bpm streams, i can burst extremely fast but streams just dont work for me on this kb, any recomendations?
i bought a huntsman mini (comming from rog claymore with mx cherry reds), i skyrocketed from rank 230k to 137k in 2-3 months (which is fast for me). bit now i get worse, they are like silvers so i could support that mx silver statement
I went from otemu blues to optical gateron blacks and I like the feel of blacks a lot more
while im here playing while lying down using the laptop keyboard
Me, someone who has always used silver switches: **Has a low combo S rank on Mad Machine**
Also me: **can't pass Hidamari no uta**
About the thing ryuk saying things about max blacks, just use a cheap membrane. I used a laptop keyboard and I could not even pass 140 bpm death stream map, then with mx blues and I streamed 170 pass
I’ve been using membrane keyboard since i start playing osu! My current rank is 26k and im planing to buy royal kludge rk61 red switches is that a good mechanical keyboard????
Did you buy it yes
I use red and tried silver, did not like it because I have practiced not bottoming out for bursts. With silver you have pretty much no choice but to bottom out because you have 1mm less room to 'hover' in. I also had worse stamina, the silvers are actually heavier than reds, the actuation force is similar but the spring rate is higher so towards the bottom they become heavier than reds do. Using silvers did feel kind of like mashing as I was bottoming out very hard playing almost anything. My acc was probably the same (not great) but it felt like I was wasting energy and my top speed would be lowered. Probably could get used to it, but I didn't like it so didn't bother. I know some players hit very hard on their keyboard and bottom out forcefully, so in that case silver is not so bad as it was for me maybe.
In my opinion switches dont play as much role as people think. Most likely your speed depends on your tapping style and things like that. If you cant stream 240 bpm - you wont be able to do that on any switch. Yeah, reds and silvers are slightly faster, but they wont let you do what you physically cant do. For example, I am able to singletap up to 230 bpm on silvers, but I can barely stream 190.
1 year ago i buyed a keyboard with Gateron reds, because i reading soo many good things about that switches compared to cherry reds and other manufacturer's switches. But i realized to missing the tactile feeeback, because on streams and stacks i'm unstable. After i buyed a gateron brown keyboard, my accuracy and fingercontrol are evolved (I tested a cherry mx brown keyboard, before buyed that gateron switch keyboard, but the tactile feedback in my opinion is zero compared to Gateron Brown).
Sorry for my bad English, i used the translator and my beginner language wisdom XD
"Cherry brown are the best linear switches for me"
Some random guys on r/mechanicalkeyboard
@@Hoa.... i know that XD
is gateron brown more tactile than mx brown in your opinion?
@@nograsstotouch absolutely. I was tested in IT shop a keyboard with mx brown, before i buyed my keyboard with gateron browns. (At this time i was had a keyboard with gateron reds at my home.) When i firstly pressed the key, i sayed "Wow this is a red switch keyboard, okay now let's see the switch under the keycap. What the hell? Thats a brown switch lol."
And after that i pressed slowly and yes, i feeled the very minimal tactile feedback but the difference for me is very low was compared to gateron red switches XD.
And after a few months i buyed my 2nd keyboard with gateron browns and when i pressed i feeled the TRULY tactile feedback.
@@Jimmy_vok_nem_rokon damn. gateron switches are known to be smooth. didnt expect their brown switches to be more tactile than scratchy mx switches. well.. at least mx is still better than romer-g.. anyways, thanks for the answer, really appreciate it!
tbh
my hands are big and i love pressing button like kind a hit it so hard
red switch help me to finger control when theres a map like burst or slow streams
blue is fast too but i dont like the key when it like fight back, that actually how tacticle work LUL
i feel brown is good for alternator LUL because its still tacticle which it still fight back when want press it gently LUl
but everything is back to personal references
Me not even playing with a mechanical keyboard: *looks away*
I use Silvers, and honestly I'm probably the small percentage that excels with them. Since swapping, my streaming stamina and consistency has increased, my speed and finger control has also increased, and I've shot to around 3 digits.
I'm happy it worked out for ya. In the end it all comes down to preference
silver switches gang for life homie
I have used silvers for god knows how long and ive been stuck at being able to stream 200 constantly but I cannot get consistant on any faster BPMs.
silver switch gang
silver gang!
what is the name of ryuk's keyboard?
Wat happened to RyuK’s speed guide?
you can also do a 200 iq play, get balck ink v2s, lube them and spring swap them. I did with mine and its nice
Gaterons blacks are actually goated imo, very good smooth heavy switch, good for learning how to gain stamina on higher bpms, i've actually tried silvers or speed silvers, and THEY ARE FUCKING MUSHY, but still it's all preference, you dont really need very light switches, you can just use whatever you want.
Took me 3min to realize he is talking about keyboard switches lol. OR at least i think he's talking about it. For all i know you can get used to everything as far as I'm concerned
"if you like it, its good. if you don't like it, its bad"
A wise man, Kachulu
The only thing is that you won't know until you buy
What happened with ryuk speed video?
when you use mx speed silvers: uhhhhhhhh
I used brown switches for mania and it feels very slow and heavy it was my first keyboard it was the redragon s113 and it is horrible.
Then that means BTMC can stream 5000BPM if we switches to speed switches..?
Man i got silvers on my first keyboard because it was a refurbished keyboard and a really good deal so silvers are all I know, should I dish the cash to get heavier switches?
I feel like silver get way too much hate tbh.
as he said in the video, its all preference at the end, i didnt feel any change between red/silver
I use mx blues but I got a keypad that's coming soon with mx silvers and I'm very excited lol 😊
It's alright in the short term but long term, silvers are one of the worst switches at high bpm
@@ecrunava care to explain why? I'm not looking to argue just wondering. In my opinion, I don't think being stuck with silvers for the rest of my life is that bad, I don't really see the point in changing switches when your comfortable with them except for the fact my mx blues are too tiring for me to play with anymore, because I like to play for long periods and over time I accumulated aot if stress on my fingers because I was dumb. And since silvers are super light I wanted to switch too them, I probably should of got reds but honestly the smaller acuation distance will help me tao faster too. And I think you should be able to train your acc with any type of switch, even if others are harder. Sorry for the paragraph lmao just wanted to state what was on my mind
@@abrahamgamer8331 Silvers' actuation point is alright for under 250BPM but once you approach it, you're gonna start struggling as ideally you don't wanna bottom out at 250+ BPM. The reason for this is that you basically have to tap really lightly which can both ruin your acc and enforce a bad habit cause tapping that light will basically destroy your finger control. It is also important to note that Cherry MX/HyperX/Kalih Red switches are a lot lighter but since they have a higher actuation travel distance, they're gonna "feel heavy" compared to Silvers when in reality you're just really used to low actuation travel distance. One last thing I want to say that if you're trying to stream 260+ bpm with Silvers, that's not gonna work unless you do the technique of moving your entire hand at that BPM which is just begging for injury.
Source: I'm a Speed player who recently stopped using Silvers after using them for almost 4 years.
@@ecrunava thank you for the advice!
6:16
Training facts right there
But no one ever will stream high bmp with mx whites it's like punching a hole into the wall with your finger every time you want to type
Well TBH I love the silvers for typing and gaming, but for osu I use Gateron clear and for apex i use gateron red (but only because it is 60% keyboard) for minecraft i only use silver speed
Glorious panda switches
what about finger style? (index/ring) and stuff?
All preference
I just put 2 kailh silver switches in my GMMK for osu D:
What about outemu blue?
Bruh literally it costs 22$ shipping for some goddamn switches like 10, i have cherry mx reds and i cant feel them while streaming, i felt good on outemu blues while streaming tho i destroyed every key on my outemu blue so yeah, maybe browns are good? Idk, i wanna commit on something that feels like a blue or blue, so undecided ahhhh
i have browns and my fongers hurt pretty fast when doing streams/triple taps
@@seba.4926 Since when did u start training for streams?
@@alcho6005 never lol
@@alcho6005 well i can kinda do 132 bpm streams for a minute now
The heavier the better imo, I have kailh box orange and with a little bit heavier spring too and its great
what we he using as bg music
did some mf really ask "what abt membrane switches" 💀
So can a bad keyboard be an alternative for black switches? lol
Yay Im actually using MX Blacks rn
at first I thought black switches were good for speed maps. I started using them after switching from the red ones and I was much slower but more precise and my stamina improved. Now I can stream 210-220 bpm medium-long streams on black switches. I give myself another month on blacks and come back to red to see the effects.
so how was it
@@nomix5176 Tbh my speed didn't changed on black switches since i wrote this comment but stamina improved. Worst thing is that i can't switch back on reds. I don't feel that i'm tapping at all, speed is worse and my unstable rate is preety bad so i'm going to stay on blacks for more time.
@@kozideusz im interested in how far youve gotten with the switches situation
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Me watching this playing on laptop keyboard
*laughs in keyboard with no switches
Lekker L45s the best now for osu 🔥
I don't know why but membrane feels really comfortable for me
Hi
Nintendo Switch gang
lol
u won comment of the day
Mcosu or osu lazer is playable on Nintendo switches
i tried with my razer panthera arcade stick.. sanwa buttons work kinda well too xD
yo that handwriting is fire
Is it weird that I train my stamina by playing with membranes then switch back to reds?
I mean, it might work
No, it’s a good thing. Some people do it with Black switches (because they’re so heavy) then switch to red, blue, etc.
i became a better acc player using silvers i went from getting under 95% to 98% overall acc
Same. I bought a new keyboard. I just destroyed previous with mx blues (razer greens). Now I’m on huntsman tournament edition with red linear. I went from 95 to almost 97,5 and still improving.
me being stuck on 89% acc be like: ffffffffuuck
did he delete the speed improvement vid?
I did not, youtube did. I will try to find out what I can do. If you want to know the reason, its because it had the word dexxh stream and the word dexxh is not allowed. what a joke honestly.
@@VividSky Can you upload it on drive or stremeable? 😋
@@VividSky i need that vid
@Liz4rd [GD] today
Just change the switch lmao
Me: well, um money?
same lol
just get a job 5head
You can get both a keyboard and separate switches for very cheap, plus changing switches even in a non hot swap board is pretty easy with a little bit of practice. I do get you point but in the case of playing osu getting just a few switches is enough and makes a huge difference finding the ones you like, i got a couple of ink yellows at first and it was so much better than the blues i had
same
Pog
why trouble with switches when you can pick membranes😎
Playing mania with silver mashing 5* maps: Ya'll hear sumthin?
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bout to buy a keypad for osu and its a silver mx
i guess gateron, gateron inks, tealios and zealios are different brands.
The Capo being on that guitar constantly hurts to look at
:c
@@ubhumma TAKE IT OFFFFF :)
What about reds?
I play with black every day and stream 200 bpm with it so ....if I switch to red I will stream 220 ...?
Eh, personally when I switched from blacks to reds, I lost all my finger control lol. You could try getting a cheap mx red numpad and try it
@@tronix2125 I switched to red a week ago and it change my life after 2 years with black personally, it depend about the preference of the person
optical switch?
if you have big hands, dont play with mx silvers, you'll sliderbreak often coz u dont realise ur hand is touching the key and since its sofucking light it clicks
2:38 say that to willy lmfao
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poggers
Played with mx blue and switched just recently to mx reds. I noticed I'm slower on the reds but more precise. Now I don't know should I go back or stay .-.
I feel like silver switches get too much hate tbh
reasonable
They really do :/
They clearly haven’t used them, they require mastering instead of spamming ur keys. I swear silvers get too much hate.
conclusion: cherry mx reds/browns
membrane switch gang
and here me playing with a membrane keyboard xD
Может кто по-русски написать какие свитчи лучшие?
Why am i even here im playing with a laptop keyboard lmfao
why am i watching this I play on a laptop keyboard
Playing on laptop keyboard not even complaining
hi! i just got my new keyboard today and they're all speed silvers i do have 8 cherry mx brown's and im getting 10 cherry mx red's sooooooooooo if its based on preference ill have to test all the switches im gonna get and choose wich one
Well im bummed. Over the last few months i've improved my streaming speed from 190bpm to a max of 250 but I have silvers. Does that mean my true streaming speed is around 200? And also is it necessary for me get another keyboard with other switches?
and then there' s me that has lazer switches and can change my actuation time as i want
you need to adapt on each switches necessarily, if you made mistakes it's your fault not switches lulw.
I played for 3 years with blues, couldn't consistently stream over 170. I played 6 months with silvers and learned up to 200 consistently, and bursts like even upwards of 260. AND. I have a profile accuracy of 99.01%. Silvers don't drop your acc if you focus on keeping it???
switch don't play a factor at all.
@@M4TTYN yep
I started out playing with silvers, i’m wanting to get away from them.
I learned how to use silvers with an acc of 98% and i’ve had them for a long time, I don’t mash my button.
while 98% is really good many top players consider anything below like 99% as bad acc. yes 1% difference is huge.
@@Dillarune Yeah ik, I just got used to it.
bruh wheres the membrane :(
just switched to mechanical 2 days ago. pretty nice.
I use blues, I like the click, but they are loud. Yet I have noise cancelling headphones, and I'm used to them now but I was thinking of switching to either reds or blacks
don't noise cancelling headphones add sound latency, I also have them, but I turn noise cancelling off when I play osu!
@@VividSky by that do you mean hearing the key taps? because if so its all ive done so i play better like that.
@@grizzly7552 yeah there is a delay when you hear and when the actual sound happens. If you turn noise cancelling off, you will hear a bit quicker. It personally improved my accuracy
@@VividSky alright man thanks for that, ill try it. have a good one :p
I use membrane switches to fuck up my game (its not that bad, just people complain)