Toy Haulers with the BIGGEST GARAGE in the World! 18ft BRING ALL YOUR TOYS!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- 2021 Grand Design Momentum 398m
Hey everyone welcome back to another video. Today I am super excited were talking a look at a awesome 5th wheel toy hauler that has such a big garage, its perfect to bring all your toys. This is the 2021 Grand Design Momentum 398M with a 18ft Garage! This is the Biggest production toy hauler garage in the world. Now if you want a LONGER Garage you can get one but it will be a custom built one.
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Sleeps 5
Slides 3
Length 43 ft 11 in
Ext Height 13 ft 5 in
Hitch Weight 2980 lbs
Gross Weight 20000 lbs
Dry Weight 15528 lbs
Fresh Water Capacity 155 gals
Grey Water Capacity 104 gals
Black Water Capacity 52 gals
Tire Size 16"
Furnace BTU 40000 btu
Generator Onan 5500
8Fuel Capacity 60 gals
Available Beds Queen
Refrigerator Size 18 cu ft
Cooktop Burners 3
Number of Awnings 2
Axle Weight 7000 lbs Garage Size 18 ft
LP Tank Capacity 60 lbs
Water Heater Capacity 12 gal
Water Heater Type Gas/Electric
AC BTU 30000 btu
TV Info LR 49" LED TV
Awning Info 15' and 18' Power with LED Lights
Axle Count 3
Washer/Dryer Available Yes
Shower Type Sunken Tub/Shower
Electrical Service 50 amp 
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The 3 things I like about this fifth wheel toy hauler:
1the kitchen, especially the amount of counter space there is compared to most other fifth wheel toy haulers
2. the garage area
3. no carpet on the sofa slide
The 3 things I don't like about this fifth wheel toy hauler:
1. the latch to keep the entry door open
2. the dump station placement
3. TV placement
Pleasant, good natured guys.
3 Likes:
1: Massive garage with plenty of seating and sleeping areas
2: Great kitchen with lots of storage and pantry space
3: Lots of storage in the bedroom
3 Dislikes:
1: Low weight limit for the size of the garage
2: Weird tank-dump location
3: Bathroom looks like an afterthought
@12:08 you said the weight capacity is 1,000lbs. Capacity for what? It can't be for the cargo in the garage. My Polaris RZR weighs over 1,500lbs.
Awesome kids hauler.. aarrgghhh lobe it
Three things I don’t like....the location of the pulls to dump the tanks-as a disabled person no way I could get to those, such a small bathroom for the ability to sleep a large number of people and at that price it should have a washer and dryer in it. Three things I like...big sofa, lots of room-someone could make the toy hauler part into an office/workroom to be able to full time and the two awning outside.
The Waltons could have used that to home school John Boy and his siblings.
That toy hauler is outstanding ! I could see that garage as a work shop. A commercial kitchen, a hobby shop, I mean it very versatile!
I was really pushing my husband away from getting a toy hauler for our next RV because of the size of the garages and that I didn't want to be "cramped in" like I am now with a bunkhouse that doesn't have slides in the bunkroom. That area would be my office and work area, but at 18', that really opens the space, even with the additional 1/2 bath. This has definitely gone to the top of my list and hopefully, by the time we are ready for a new one in a couple of years, then there will be a good used one available for us.
UVW 15000 lbs
Hitch Weight
2980 lbs
GVWR 20000 lbs
that is from Grand designs website for this Toy Hauler so does that mean the carrying capacity is 5000? not 1000 like Matt said?
Oh, boy. The weaving studio I could have in that garage! Drool.
Complaints all outside lol because who doesn't like 2 way refrigerater full oven huge sink, PPP, shower, beds, I would actually live in this one.
A guy would need a dooly just to haul the kids around.
This unit needs the half-bath.
Hell - this thing needs two half-baths.
If the unit’s dry weight is 15,528 lbs and it has a GVWR of 20,000 lbs then simple arithmetic says that it should be capable of carrying 4,472 lbs. So either they have the carrying capacity wrong or the manufacturer is way too conservative on its weight ratings.
For that long a garage and 3 axles, 1k weight capacity is anemic... I can see that being the patio ramp capacity, but not the total.
they are usually 3000 pounds in the garage
Voltage is a better toyhauler at this price point.
Not trying to be mean but holy smokes at 9:20 that's some Plummers crack😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
the art deco question needs an Andrea face palm graphic
This is a great toy hauler. I love how the beds are set up in garage and all the windows. I personally like the extra bathroom and if you fill that many beds you would need it. I like the north and south bed orientation. I like the windows in the kitchen area and the RV refrigerator. I love the awnings. My dislikes the sewer dump placement. The tv placement, and I really can't think of anything else, except maybe the length which I know to have that you need that length but when I had a 42 ft it was sometimes hard to find a place to park and forget about National parks and a lot of state parks. I will keep harping please show these with the slides in!
I'd have to have a king size bed. It just seems odd with a little Queen bed in a 5th wheel with such a giant garage
Love it when they beef up the suspension. Love it when they put pump and fuel fill behind a locked door. Best garage set up ever. Would want the half bath though. Wah Wah - too heavy for my SRW 3500.
Too heavy? 20k is too much?
Likes 1. Love the 17.5 tires, can’t have too much weight capacity in wheels and tires. 2. The residential size stove 3. Hydraulic assisted steps. Dislikes 1. Overall floor plan doesn’t work for me 2. No residential refrigerator 3. Waste tank hookups in a odd position.
If I’m buying a toy hauler I want the regular momentum.
Pretty sure that’s a gasoline generator, not an LP generator. (The option on the GD site is for a gasoline Cummins Onan generator, and other YT’ers who pull Momentum’s have gasoline generators.)
Not sure where the 1000 lb garage cargo capacity comes from. The trailer has a 5,000 lb cargo carrying capacity, and advertised tie down hooks with 2500 lb limits. Hard to imagine those numbers with a 1000 lb limit.
You're welcome, it's a pleasure watching your review😊I love the ample space, livingroom, and kitchen setup👍👍👍ping
Great Video !! Love the back and forth with you and Will. Great job!! Tall test is great.
my first dislike was that there is no dining table and chairs i dont want to sit on the fold down sofa to eat but the table and chairs under the bed over rides this
my second dislike is the whole TV fireplace i would rather have kitchen space. anyone who wants to watch tv can go to the garage
I wish they had ordered the half bath
Love the kitchen the shower and the bedroom so glad its a queen bed so there is room to move around
That 5th wheel toy hauler was awesome, especially the garage section!!!
Hello, wow!! I have way more than 3 likes!! Now this is awesome for big families. I love the garage, the sink, the stove, oven. Love all the storage, island is very nice, love the layout. Only thing this beauty needs is a half bath. Still not a deal breaker though. Great review Matt and Will!!👍👍❤❤
Love the space for toys and kids
Another good review, thanks guys!
One thing I'd like to see that I don't think has ever been done before is a Class C RV "toy hauler" with just enough space in the back to store a motorcycle sideways.
Have a rear section "cap" lift up on hydraulics, ride the bike up a slide-out steel ramp and park so it's perpendicular to the rest of the coach, strap it down, lower the rear cap section to hide/secure it from view.
Get all Batman with it!
Thank you for sharing this toy hauler
What good is an 18 foot garage with only 1000lbs rating?
Huge!
Too much for me but a great unit for the active family.
Dislikes:
1. Bathroom is too small. They skipped on space and storage there.
2. I don't like the configuration in the kitchen slash living room. It's just not for me.
3. Too huge for a lot of national parks or campgrounds.
Likes:
1. Lots of storage in bedroom.
2. Plenty of possibilities with the toy hauler.
3. Like the paint scheme and inside cabinetry.
But what’s wrong with side ladders?
CCCW is actually 4200 pounds, not 1000 pounds for the garage.
What is the weight capacity for the garage? Can you put a car/Jeep in there? How many “toys”?
Great question!
Hi Matt! I totally agree with you and Will about not liking toy-haulers.... the interiors have always just let me cold...nothing pretty, just bland, “functional” amenities, colors, and fabrics. However, this one was really NICE! You don’t even know it’s a hauler until you go back there! Everything is fresh and new looking, as-if it were just a travel trailer or standard fifth wheel. Very nice!
Wish they came with front windshield Love the residential oven!!!!. Love the large sink. Love the non white or gray cabinets. Agree with your negatives. Should also have the upgraded less chucking pin box like rota flex.
That was an awesome 5th wheel to review! Thank you sooo much Matt and Will! I have always wondered if a full bath is possible in the garage area for this people hauler? 1000 lbs of toys isn't very much allowance. Touring motorcycles are around 850-900 lbs for one. Bathroom... okay, bedroom... okay to good, kitchen... good, garage ... great! Main entry door...eh, TV in the garage...ooops, not there. And need the full body paint! Have a great evening...keep the big reviews coming!!! Thank you very much!
Likes: length of the garage, indoor storage, kitchen
Dislikes: tv placement, placement of dump area for the tanks
Hard to believe you don't carry a CH751 key with you, it's the most used lock on the planet and would let you show us most of the stuff you "can't open" during video and please put the support legs down before you "plop" on the couch/bed. Just makes you look like rookies who don't know how this stuff works.
Front nose looks great, almost like a transformer
Love grand design toy haulers
Dislikes:
Toy haulers do not have an outdoor kitchen
The living room in the kitchen/tv is really cramped
Door latches outside
Likes:
Huge garage. I just love toy haulers because of the versatility. And I believe grand design insulates their garage floors as well.
Kitchen, everything about it. And slide is not carpet
1/2 bath option and laundry abilities
I loved this fifth wheel toy hauler very huge garage. Nice it has two beds real nice. I like the bedroom the night tables on each side and the cabinetry up above. Real nice. 👍
Thank you Will and Matt! 👍
Love the sleep space. I would make it a kid hauler. Does the lift have tv hook-ups
Just an FYI, the top bunk most likely can be raised back up so you don't have that claustrophobic feeling while sitting at the dining set up. I love this type of toy hauler just for the patio alone which wasn't really highlighted in the video.
That was my major question. I think that I would have it removed completely if it didn't go up away from the bottom part.
Omg that garage!!!! Amazing. Lol the little oft was cool also. If nothing else good storage.
Wow really nice toy hauler
Just curious what you dislike about the side fold down ladder? Have seen a few videos of people saying they liked them.
I love this. Only dislike is the bathroom sink, there is just something I don't like about it. That garage is amazing! The bedroom is really nice, and even though I prefer a king, I would take those night stands over a king bed.
The weight capacity has to be much more than the 1000 lbs you showed. A single SXS weights 1500 or more. The difference between the dry weight of 15,300 and max weight of 20,000 should allow for a minimum of 2500 for toys
I like the garage, kitchen, 4 recliners, tri axle, and the fuel fill up. I don't like the tv placement, ladder, and things are hard to reach. Maybe you can put diesel in the fuel fill up, so that you can fill up your truck when it runs out of diesel.
Very nice, this would be a contender in full body paint if I win the lottery.
I like the storage!
Does anyone know of a toy hauler, motorhome that has a garage that will hold a Hellcat Challenger?
That garage is huge but only 1000lbs.
It’s has to be more. That can’t be right.
@@FaboLouis maybe is low because pin weight.
Looks like I could fit our 2 beds, 2 dressers, and an entertainment center (I wouldn't need to rent a storage unit)! Plus cordone off an area for the cats litter boxes.
Likes:
Bedroom is awesome - big night stands, different design
Kitchen setup with large two-way fridge, oven etc.
Large sofa in the living room
Dislikes:
Garage way too big for me
Dark furniture
TV position
Toys shmoys - I'd make that into a kickbutt sewing room!
Likes (besides the garage): lots of windows, amazing kitchen layout, super functional master bedroom.
Dislikes: TV and fireplace are in a weird spot, not a fan of that "mesh" design on the cupboards and pantry door, bedroom feels cramped.
Me too for the sewing room
Great Job Matt and Will.. That Garage is almost perfect.. Needs a half bath with all those beds.. Also they should have put the TV in a Televator on the island.. Just my thoughts.. I don't know about the TV on the Slide outside.. Still a Great Toy Hauler/5th Wheel.. Keep it up 👍🏾
Likes: 1) 18 foot garage/drop down beds/available half bath and washer/dryer prep; 2) Kitchen/Pantry/Residential oven/Sink is super nice; 3) bedroom closet/available KING/Storage under bed
Dislikes: 1) No demonstration of the rear door/patio; 2) LP generator, prefer diesel/gasoline; 3) RV - not Residential fridge
My main problem, and it took me a while to find it, as it's not on the site, is that despite the garage, it only has a ~2800 lb weight limit for that huge garage. (~3600 lbs total cargo capacity) They need to beef it up so you can fit a small car in there as well as a washer and dryer and not overload everything. 18 feet even with "toys" in it could easily go over 2000 lbs ( two RZRs ). And people WILL load it up even more than that.
I find it a little frustrating that even in the owner's manual, they don't list the ramp weight limit or the rear cargo capacity. You would think this is must-know information!
nice one !
Like the garage but needs a 1/2 bath for that much living. Like the kitchen
Don’t love
Door stop
Dark wood
Do love
Garage area
Kitchen
Master bedroom
Is there heat and air in the garage?
Approximate Cost ?
More toy haulers please
Ahh the good ol days when you can get one for under $100k
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No you dont need a dually for this
I called
No answer or return call
I could put my Chevy Aveo in the garage.
While I love the looks of this trailer, once you get past the bling, you have to ask yourself, what in the world is the MFG thinking when they offer an 18' garage unit with ONLY 4300 cargo carrying capacity (CCC)???
Lets do some basic math......
Think about who is buying this style trailer.....typically people with big cars like a Pro R4/Turbo R4/Can Am Max with an average weight of around 2200 lbs. Forget about putting a Jeep or similar....not a chance. 4300 (CCC)-2200 (avg 4 seat UTV) = 2100lb
So now you have 2100 lb of cargo left to add....oh but wait, won't you need fuel and water?? Water 155G x 8.3 = 1287, Fuel 60G x 7.2 = 432.
Oh so now you only have around 400lbs left for food, clothes, dishes, tools, and you other misc gear that fill your cabinets and storage compartments!!
NOT A CHANCE would I buy anything with such low cargo carrying capacity. You may have a couple hundred more or less pounds in your situation, but almost guaranteed, you'll be over the weight rating if you put a 4-seat UTV in that garage.
DISLIKES
Outside door latch
Cheap pinbox
Sewer drains location
Bonus dislike
Outside ladder
TV Placement
LIKES
Bathroom fit for "big guys"
Great kitchen storage
Nice hand rail going up steps to the bedroom.
RV refrigerator
Don’t think I’ve ever said this but that TV might be too big for that spot.
As good as having 5 double beds and a single loft bed is......... the bathroom is going to be insufficient for 11 people
$$$$$$$$
This thing sleeps 10 people, but there's one toilet? Really? And cargo carrying capacity of 1,000 pounds?
Definitely needs the second toilet and the capacity has to be more than a 1000lbs. A side x side is 1500 to 2500 or more depending on equipment.
Don’t like the RV frig need ice maker
Appreciate the review however I don’t think that load capacity is 1000 pounds with an 18’ garage that would be a couple dirt bikes.
Also I believe you would have the slide in when you dumped the sewage etc so it shouldn’t be a problem getting to it.
I get it... This guy does a lot of reviews, very good ones at that! I get it he knows a thing or two about RV's. But get your facts straight buddy. A Dually is not NECESSARY with the new line of trucks on the market. The new 3500 SRW drive GM products are capable of over a 4,000lb payload capacity with nearly a 22,000 tow capacity. Also, the cargo hold is capable of more than 1,000 lbs. Cmon dude! People rely on people like you to get it right... Someone who doesn't know any better would be extremely mislead. I mean think about it. The garage is built to sleep 8 people. 2 people per bed. At an average of 150-175lbs per person. Do the math...
If someone chooses to tow this with a SRW thats fine with me. I rather tell people to much truck then not enough truck :)
@@MattsRVReviewsTowables That's respectable!
Only 1000 lbs weight? You can't fit any toys in there. Most toys are over 1000 lbs. Can't even fit a loaded touring motorcycle in there because it's overweight.
Disappointed. How are you going to make a garage big enough to hold my beloved 1989 s10 pickup truck, but not give me the carrying capacity? Truck is less than 15 feet, but weighs at least 2,500lbs! Grand design, think about the show cars that people could haul in this if you allowed for the weight!!! You literally excluded an entire market of potential buyers!!!! And when you redesign so the carrying capacity of the garage increases, don't take out or forget the washer dryer hookups and the weight of those appliances!
I had to stop. Horrible video..