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As a rabid Ravens fan....Greg Roman was the perfect coordinator for Lamar in 2018 & 19 (he wasn't officially the OC in 2018, but once Jackson took over as starter it was Roman's offense). In 2020 we started seeing signs that Lamar was ready for a more complex passing attack, but despite having all of the 2021 & 2022 seasons, with passing game specialists added for 2022, the Ravens aerial attack was severely limited both by talent at wide receiver and by Roman's play designs. By last year, most Ravens fans wanted a new OC in place, and thank goodness we finally got Monken (and some better receivers).
@@Sportsguy0258 greg roman was necessary in order for lamar to fully develop into the player he is now. he was able to make him a great runner and now todd is using him as a great passer.
Nah Roman wasn’t the best for Lamar it was best for what ravens wanted to do. Lamar has always played like and wanted to play like this in college. Instead they wasted start of his career by leaning into a low ceiling offense
@@cap14444dude didn’t him nothing he was good enough from the start. What happened was Roman dream quarterback for his play scheme fall into his lap. If you watch him at Louisville you would all he needed was some experience that’s it. Greg was not necessary he would have been good regardless.
For me, the pocket presence has been second to none… the awareness he’s shown in the pocket along with the athleticism to evade pass rushers… he’s a scramble drill nightmare
Lamar still has room to grow. But my God. Watch that 2019 playoff game vs San Diego. He looked like Josh Dobbs with less passing ability. The growth has been amazing, unprecedented almost for a qb running that much.
Absolutely. We got better pieces for the O-Line, and the use of the legs that Lamar developed with Greg Roman can now be used to extend pass plays and get defenses even further out of position and stretch them really thin.
Nah the ravens offense made no sense. 0 adjustments and they didnt build up the threat of him running the ball. He was way underutilized because of their gameplans
As a rabid Ravens fan...Greg Roman was the perfect coordinator for Lamar in 2018 & 19 (he wasn't officially the OC in 2018, but once Jackson took over as starter it was Roman's offense). In 2020 we started seeing signs that Lamar was ready for a more complex passing attack, but despite having all of the 2021 & 2022 seasons, with passing game specialists added for 2022, the Raven's aerial attack was severely limited both by talent at wide receiver and by Roman's play designs. By last year, most Ravens fans wanted a new OC in place, and thank goodness we finally got Monken (and some better receivers). Lamar is giving everybody their best opportunity to shine while simultaneously taking a lot of the pressure off of them. Which leads to big plays. Alex and his analysis are 2nd to none. He has taught me everything I know about football For me, the pocket presence has been second to none… the awareness he’s shown in the pocket along with the athleticism to evade pass rushers… he’s a scramble drill nightmare 10:00 that transition was smooth showing two different deep balls he's thrown He seems just big enough to withstand some hits. Really hope he can stay healthy for however long this season lasts for the Ravens. Feels like any QB is just moments away from a serious injury. The way he throws the ball is too cool. It’s like he’s throwing a small nerf ball. Amazing talent When you end the video with a banger line like "This time they know how to play, and this time they will win the Superbowl." 🔥🔥🔥For explaining in detail Greg Roman's tenure as Lamar OC. Fans have believed the organization didn’t try to help Lamar. While it didn’t happen immediately, although they were attempting, to build a strong WR room around Lamar. Roman was good for his development. The MVP year accelerated expectations for Lamar and that’s fair. However, the organization has always supported Lamar and has done their due diligence when necessary. ~ Lamar’s college coach recently praised the organization for their dedication and due diligence in support of Lamar since before the draft. Most recently in their search for an offensive coordinator that would elevate Lamar. Also FTR I recently rewatched that 2019 game. Lamar played much better than the stats indicated. Although putting up over 500 total yards in any game is insane. The receivers had 7-8 drops. The very first was momentum changing. Greg Roman was also 💩the bed in that game putting Lamar in a position/formations he hadn’t been in all season. Nonetheless, Context matters. Salute to you for providing such on this video Chiefs fan here. Absolutely terrified of facing the Ravens in the playoffs. I used to be a Lamar doubter, thinking he was only a scrambler and that he didn't have a whole lot of arm talent. He's definitely proved a lot of people wrong in that regard. I think they'll have some deep playoff runs for years to come if they keep the coaching tree intact and Lamar healthy. That’s my MVP quarterback! 🏆Sometimes I wake up in cold sweats thinking about the Eagles trying to defend Lamar 😅Great video! I may be an Eagles fan, but, I will be rooting for Lamar and the Ravens in the AFC side of the playoffs, and I will be very happy for Lamar if he were to win the Super Bowl! Remember when, back in the off-season, during the contract issue, he could have possibly been available, and a lot of teams said that they didn't want him? Bateman’s blocking on that second Hill pass 🔥🔥🔥Lamar had these skills already If you watch him in college at Louisville. He was playing the same way that he is playing now. Lamar was in an NFL system with Bobby Petrino as his Head Coach but to me, Greg Roman held Lamar back for 4 years... Just ask the fans because all they were complaining about is they're not throwing the ball. It was run on first down, run on 2nd down, and even sometimes they would pass on third down.😂😂😂😂The Greg Roman apologia really undermines Lamar’s college career. Yes, like all QBs he’s a better passer but he has always been able to pass. Congrats on the 100k subscribers! I enjoyed your videos long before I looked at your last name. Would love to see a video on Raven Inside/Outside Zone Read, Power Read (Inverted Veer), and GT Counter Read. I haven't seen anyone do it right yet... Can you believe they didn’t want to pay this guy? It boggles the mind! He’s one of the best 3 players in the league along with Trent Williams and Justin Jefferson. If Lamar wins the Super Bowl this year, he and Mahomes will be that Brady and Manning esk 2.0 because both of them are more athletic than both Tom and Peyton. Also, every year even if the teams around them aren’t the best, they’re gonna get their team to at least the playoffs, and everyone else is gonna have to beat one of them to get to where they want to go. Plus with a Super Bowl, you can’t deny Lamar & Mahomes will be the top two QBs in the league in my opinion week 1.
Thank you. For explaining in detail Greg Roman tenure as Lamar OC. Fans have believed the organization didn’t try to help Lamar. While it didn’t happen immediately, although they were attempting, to build a strong WR room around Lamar. Roman was good for his development. The MVP year accelerated expectations for Lamar and that’s fair. However the organization has always supported Lamar and have done their due diligence when necessary. ~ Lamar’s college coach recently praised the organization for their dedication and due diligence in support of Lamar since before the draft. Most recently in their search for an offensive coordinator that would elevate Lamar. Also FTR I recently rewatched that 2019 game. Lamar played much better than the stats indicated. Although putting up over 500 total yards in any game is insane. The receivers had 7-8 drops. The very first was momentum changing. Greg Roman also 💩the bed in that game putting Lamar in a position / formations he hadn’t been in all season. Nonetheless, Context matters. Salute to you for providing such on this video
Greg Roman did a lot more for Lamar than people like to admit. He got way too predictable down the stretch however he did a lot for Lamar as far as run schemes
I think another factor as well with the 2021 and 2022 season is how injury depleted we were those seasons. Ronnie Stanley was out most of those two seasons, all three of our runningbacks were out or struggling to come back ( Dobbins, Gus and Hill). Last year our wr depth was basically gone, Bateman was suppose to step up and become our #1 or at least a legit #2. Missed most of the season. Duverney was out half way through the season. I mean, we were starting DeSean Jackson later in the season.... Finally getting healthy and bringing in Todd Monkin made all the difference.
That was Ozzie Newsome not Roman or anybody else. He been looking at him since he was freshman at Louisville. A raven scout even said it was Newsome who was looking at Lamar for future first. Newsome kept sending scouts back there to look at Jackson more.
Lamar didn't produce bc of his run schemes. Lamar produced because he's a generational talent in the open field and makes the best defenders struggle to tackle him. This is like saying the Titans OC was the reason Henry went for 2k yards a few years ago.
@@maskedman5657yeah GRo is a mastermind with running schemes but they got predictable over time and didn't have a great counter punch in passing the ball. Part of that was the WR talent they had, but also on him.
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@@sfanelemhlongo935 i get that predicting the future is not an exact science i am just always amused at the amount of ballwashing in the comments and i don't need to be an expert to tell you that bryce young is going to be a mediocre nfl qb...at best
He seems just big enough to withstand some hits. Really hope he can stay healthy for however long this season lasts for the Ravens. Feels like any qb is just moments away from a serious injury. The way he throws the ball is too cool. It’s like he’s throwing a small nerf ball . Amazing talent
This is a funny narrative that keeps getting perpetuated. Lamar rarely gets those big hits on him when he's on the move. But it also helps when the offense is spread out so the defense front 7 aren't bunched up trying to contain Lamar in the pocket. Give Lamar more space to move and his scrambles look better.
Great video! I may be an Eagles fan, but, I will be rooting for Lamar and the Ravens in the AFC side of the playoffs, and I will be very happy for Lamar if he were to win the Super Bowl! Remember when, back in the off-season, during the contract issue, that he could have possibly been available, and a lot of teams said that they didn't want him?
Yea Lamar has improved but this narrative that he didn’t know how to pass from the pocket and made this enourmous jump is simply not true! Lamar has always been a good pocket passer when he’s had the opportunity. The only difference is he now has skill players that can make plays and get open consistently paired with a Modern an competent passing scheme. Are we all of a sudden gonna say mahowms has regressed this year simply cuz his receivers can’t catch and the talent around him has gotten worse? No
@@elscruffomcscruffy8371 And a good running back who makes people miss while not a huge stat rb he does enough for the defense as Alex said to constantly be confused and Lamar the elite qb he is eats em up
If Lamar wins the Super Bowl this year, him and Mahomes will be that Brady and Manning esk 2.0 because both of them are more athletic than both Tom and Peyton . Also, every year even if the teams around them aren’t the best, they’re gonna get their team to at least the playoffs and everyone else is gonna have to beat one of them to get to where they want to go. Plus with a Super Bowl, you can’t deny Lamar & Mahomes will be the top two QBs in the league in my opinion.
Only QBs in the league with 2+ MVPs and 1+ Super Bowl rings are Rodgers (4/1) and Mahomes (2/2), so presuming he wins MVP this year, any year he wins a ring is when he enters guaranteed Hall of Fame, top 20 QB all time status.
@@nickcouture6406It is a shame that Burrow is injury prone so that he doesn't get to compete for the AFC championship this year. He would certainly be a contender if he can just prove himself healthy over the next few years.
Chiefs fan here. Absolutely terrified of facing the Ravens in the playoffs. I used to be a Lamar doubter, thinking he was only a scrambler and that he didn't have a whole lot of arm talent. He's definitely proved a lot of people wrong in that regard. I think they'll have some deep playoff runs for years to come if they keep the coaching tree intact and Lamar healthy.
Go look at Lamar Jackson Heisman Highlights: You were duped into buying into the nonsense narrative "he was only a scrambler". In his first full NFL (Unanimous MVP) season, Lamar tossed most Passing TDs of all QBs! "Not bad for a running back", right? Truth is: Ravens were half-arse when they drafted him. And Raven were AGAIN half-arse when Lamar 'was tossed into the NFL fire' a lot earlier than planned. For the first time, in 2023, Ravens have finally understood and appreciated that Lamar Jackson was a money-spinner to be exploited for their franchise.
As a ravens fan I think the Mahomes Vs. Lamar narrative has been fun. Both are dominant in very different ways and every time they play it's a wild game but that prick Mahomes is just always that tiny bit better in their meetings lmao. I hope to skip that meeting in the playoffs myself 😅 but I'm hoping the ravens will come out of the bye not flat and keep this play up. It will be hard to lose if they keep it up. Just gotta see them do exactly that, keep it up.
@@gDiniM I hope Lamar gets a ring this year, partly so we can see the Mahomes vs Lamar "rivalry" come into full force. Mahomes doesn't have much of a rival besides the older Rodgers legacy-wise and the much less accomplished Allen/Burrow age-wise and in head to head matchups.
@@navonmyhand7999 I want Lamar to win so I can stop listening to the dumbasses that think super bowls are the only way to grade a QB act like he's garbage. I will also enjoy that Mahomes and Lamar rivalry taking it up a notch though. Two world class talents playing like it every year and playing crazy shootouts Everytime they play each other
@@nirbija Ya Lamar's college career proves he has always been a good passer. Ravens just needed a better wide receiver core. Having 1 good tight end and 1 good receiver doesn't win games in the NFL. Now he's throwing to like 8-10 people every game. Its fun to watch football at this level of excellence, kind of like when you master a video game and only lose like once every 50 times lol.
MVP with an 04 playoff record when his opens score two touchdowns. All you have to do to beat Lamar is be up by two scores and then the ravens get frantic and pass happy but the issue is, Lamar sucks at qb and throws picks, fumbles, makes bad decisions, etc.
The defense of Roman “early in his (Lamar’s) career” is bogus. The ravens had an objectively terrible WR room and passing scheme which they masked with Lamar’s legs, whether it was him running guys open or rushing. They leaned into narratives about him being a “running QB” which were blatant fabrications that completely ignored his passing performance in college with Louisville receivers. The ravens and Harbaugh used Lamar to bail them out in 2018-2019.
No the defense is correct. I don't think that Lamar would have been near as successful or got MVP that early if not for Romans run schemes. Yeah he got predictable down the stretch but the Ravens were dang near unstoppable in 2019. And I don't just mean because Lamar. I mean their run game was almost impossible to stop. The Ravens actually right now still run a lot of GRO schemes
@@maskedman5657by 2021 Roman should have been fired. Their run game is still almost impossible to stop because when you have Lamar you can always scheme a run game. If they went spread with Lamar off rip he would have just progressed to this point much faster. Like this season could have been his 2021 season
Agreed. Roman ruined Jackson. Playing on his strength of running, Roman didn't and wasn't capable of taking Jackson's passing game to the next level. The Ravens brass didn't help in that regard by not firing Roman 2 years before they did. When teams have the defensive player talent to force Jackson to throw the ball, game over. The Steelers prove this as Jackson has a losing record against them and has more interceptions than TDs. Opponents copy the Steelers defensive scheme against the Ravens in the playoffs, contain Jackson by zoning the gaps and press the receivers. The legs give out first, so once Jackson slows down, he won't even be an average QB. And now with his salary taking over 20% of the team's cap money, talent at WR and the other 21 starting positions will soon thin out, not including the erosion of talent at the backup positions. Double-digit regular season losses on the horizon. Go Orioles!
Our 2023 team is way different from that 2019 team. The offense(mainly receivers) are way better. Our defense(mainly pass rush and LBs) are way better. Only thing beating the Ravens from going to the Super Bowl is injuries and the Ravens. We only need to win 2 games to get to the big stage and I think we will. We’re massively better than we were back then
I feel like since 2019 he’s always been this good lol It’s just the increase of the talent around him & being given the keys to an offense that combines these good passing concepts with his own style that makes the difference.
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Exactly what i used to tell my son, Romans passing scheme was too vanilla and schemed no1 open. The best offenses scheme their best guys open and feed them the ball. We fed no1 nor had anyone to feed anyways who had game breaking ability. Mandrews is 'him' but lets face it, hes not the most athletic TE. Lamar needed more just like any QB outside of Brady.
Agree. Brady has some very good players. They weren’t always household names. Even before Moss, and Gronk. Tom Brady had one of the most underrated pass catching backs of all time in Kevin Faulk early in his career. Then half a dozen more over the years. Fans would be surprised the “stats” Brady’s running backs have had over the years. Solid receiving rooms. No superstars, but talented enough to win Super MVP ~ Deion Branch. Wes Welker, the most dominant slot receiver ever. Edelman, Amendola, the TE talent. Brady was the ultimate distributor. Lamar is elite at it… and has improved his skills. His style is different but the results are similar. The Ravens have four different receivers with 35 or more catches… TE’s even before Andrews injury were contributing now they get receptions. All the running backs get touches in the pass game. That is both an intrinsic attribute for being a great quarterback, it is also a skill that has to constantly be worked on. Lamar has that as well, constantly working in the off season to improve. Then he is humble as well. I don’t get how fans “dislike” him. Quite honestly, how do they hate his style of play? I’ve been watching football for over five decades, and the most exciting players were always “beloved” even outside of their fan bases. As a fan of the game I don’t understand it. ~ I’m not naive either… I am assuming that can’t be the reason. We should be better than that. Shouldn’t we ?
It wasn't just too vanilla but too predictable and doesn't attempt to attack defenses weaknesses in coverage. Especially in late passing downs when opposing defenses already KNOW what the play is while Lamar and his offense are still in the huddle. Also the condensed looks were played out too often which also limited Lamar's obvious threat to take off in space. So even in those passing situations the defense was ideally lined up to close in on his escape angles.
I feel like with Roman we would have never seen Likely explode on the field as much as he has in the absence of Andrews. He even said so in an interview lately that he felt locked into a role before and now Monken actually uses his talents in the gameplan.
I wanna add something to that. Did no one (but me) ever notice _where_ Mark Andrews made all his catches & that No Receivers took his place? That when he was injured there was no one where Andrews would be, ever? I think that Andrews defied Roman's play-calling & that because he was So Successful at it, the Ravens could do nothing about it.
QB's like Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and CJ Stroud are disrupting the QB position. Strong, fast, mobile QBs are changing the way the position is played. Teams are building offenses around the special talent players like this have and it is showing its dominance over defenses built to deal with pure pocket passers. Some people are incapable of understanding the change that is happening right in front of them. Sometimes they use terms like "He is not Quaterbacky" to describe a type of play they are incapable of processing.
Stroud does not run the ball. He’s talented for sure but definitely not a run first QB. He’s not changing the position. He’s a great pocket QB . Mike Vick changed the QB position and Lamar is the closest talent to Vick
Lamar’s isn’t changing anything. He can’t win playoff games. He’s 0-4 when opposing team scores two touchdowns. Lamar can’t even catch up to two touchdowns 😂😂
@@bluffroadron we can only speak on the current reality. Anyone can improve but at the moment. Lamar is 2 wins out of 6 total games and once his running ability diminishes that threat of the run is gone and he’s gonna be even more one dimensional than he is now. He will be forced to be a pocket qb which is like a death sentence for his play style
Lamar had these skills already If you watch him in college at Louisville. He was playing the same way that he is playing now. Lamar was in an NFL system with Bobby Petrino as his Head Coach but to me Greg Roman held Lamar back for 4 years... Just ask the fans because all they were complaining about is they're not throwing the ball. It was run on first down, run on 2nd down, and even sometimes they would pass on third down.😂😂😂😂
I think it also helped drive the wack ass narrative post 2019 that Lamar was more of a runner than a passer. When his accuracy on passes between the numbers was becoming elite post 2019. Even without an ideal receiver cast either.
Nah, it really doesn't undermine it. For anyone that saw Lamar in the 2018 preseason (or watched him in 2018 period), it's entirely fair to say that first coming out of college his passing mechanics were kind of rough, in the same way that a lot of QBs' are coming out of college. There was developing that he needed to do. That's not because he wasn't a legitimate passer at Louisville, it's more that there's a big difference between what gets it done at the college level (even in Power 5 Conferences, or whatever they're called now that there's about to be only four) and what gets it done at the NFL level. But anyone who saw Lamar play in the 2018 preseason would be forgiven for assuming at that point that he was *at least* a year, if not two, away from being a "proper NFL-caliber starting QB". Now, I don't know how much his development is on Roman; it's clear Lamar is a smart man and has an insane work ethic, but what Roman *did* do was he built an offense that could play to Lamar's strengths as they were in 2018 (when his passing technique was legitimately pretty rough) and 2019 (when Lamar had already taken leaps and bounds forward and was already a capable passer, but was also a very young QB in his first full season as a starter) and help the Ravens be successful while he matured. One thing I don't think Alex covered, but which has struck me and impressed me about Lamar, is that periodically, a defensive coordinator or someone will "figure Lamar out" (commentator's and analysts' words, not mine; every player has a counter, that doesn't mean they've been "figured out"). They will come up with something that just utterly flummoxes him. There was that Miami game a couple years back where the blitz just disrupted Lamar to an insane extent. There was the Chargers in Lamar's first playoff game just staying in dime defense *all the time*. It's happened a few times. But it never works more than once. You might get one over on Lamar. You might outsmart him or find a flaw in his game to exploit once, but he always learns from it, and he punishes any opponent that thinks they can get away with the same trick.
@@fanboy50 Brian Flores' cover 0 didn't 'figure out' Lamar. GRO didn't have hot routes built in to combat those looks and the spacing for the wack ass receiver talent wasn't good enough to win getting to the flat/underneath stuff quickly. In fact the offense was figuring the look out late in the 4th quarter. Problem is that isn't enough time to make a come back. Difference with Monken is he has HOT routes built in his pass designs and his pass plays exploit opposing defenses game plans who are fearful of Lamar in the run game.
@@t4d0W I also didn't mean he actually "figured out" Lamar, hence why I put it in quotes. But it did have Lamar (and the offense as a whole) on the back foot. Again, my primary point is still that it worked *once* and then Lamar adjusted.
But remember what Colin Cowherd said on draft day "Lamar Jackson's a project. He's not Sam Darnold. He's not Josh Rosen... He's not even close," I guess he is right, Lamar was nothing like Rosen or Darnold
As you can tell, teams being afraid to rush Lamar makes that o-line look way better. They are good but he definitely makes them better which what MVPs should do.
The oline isn’t good. Not amazing. I’d say they are very good in run blocking but mediocre to down right awful more times than not in pass protection. Thing is as Alex mentioned, defenses are so afraid of Lamar ripping off a huge run, they basically give Lamar a clean pocket just to contain effectively neutralizing any pass rush, which makes it look like the oline is actually better than it really is.
If we get a niners ravers Super Bowl, I’d love to see a breakdown of the niners defense regardless of winner because I know that game plan is gonna be incredible
Could it be that the modern defense being played so 'perfect' makes them predictable and easy to read. Yea these new defensive schemes are great and they do stop offense's and take pieces away. But as Lamar has shown there are gaps that can be exploited as the defense has their own set of rules they follow for coverage. I loved that you covered the threat of Lamar running is a reason for this sucess. I feel like other creators and announcers miss the 'pressure' part of the game, which is a huge part of thr game.
Well of course that is obvious. Lamar shouldn’t be penalized though for running ability an the fact it has defenses absolutely terrified which create lanes for him to pass. That running threat also helps his teammates cuz defenses are so focused on Lamar, it creates running lanes as well as single coverage on the receivers.
been an obj fan since he was drafted... let's hope baltimore could win the superbowl this year so both lamar and obj and tucker and all the guys could get a ring!!
4:44 Genuinely asking, how do you have the insight that Odell's route was improvised? Wouldn't you need to have seen the play call to know for sure, what are the tells here?
Thank you for this deep dive. I'm purely a stats guy so when I look at Lamar's stats i cant understand why he is mvp over prescott or cmc. Now I kinda understand. Edit: When I said I am a stats guy that doesn't mean that I dont watch nfl games I just dont watch film.
LJ is a player that puts constant pressure on the defense. He forces the defense out of their game plan and into his. It takes an amazing talent to dictate that regularly.
Yea, he needed evolution and better weapons. Roman wasn’t bad, I just think he wasn’t as confident in Lamar passing ability as he should’ve been. His first season in Mac’s offense was great, next year he’ll probably be The best Lamar to date.
As a Steelers fan I'm very happy that you've just cursed the Ravens. Steelers over Ravens in the divisional round coming up! (Now that I've said this the Steelers aren't making it to the playoffs)
Lamar made Roman’s scheme work not the other way around. He wasted Lamar’s early years in a low ceiling offense that relied on Lamar too much to work. Who takes the most dynamic qb and puts him in heavy formations instead of spreading the field with speed? This year was the ravens finally using common sense. Also Roman never allowed Lamar to audible or change protections. That alone should have got him fired three years ago
The various run designs from Roman were nice. Reminded me of Kliff's run scheme which also wore out its welcome the same way. The condensed sets on passing downs took away Lamar's angles of escape as it also bunched up the front 7 to just straight up go downhill. Contrast to his threat to run in spread formations and also make pass plays has put immense pressure on opposing defenses to stay sound in their run fit.
@@maskedman5657 until they didn’t then he got fired and he disappeared from the league until the next great dual threat could pull it off. Roman has a shelf life of three years at OC with his system
@@t4d0W this is literally the dilemma that made him so productive in college despite lesser talent around him. Ravens were slow on the uptake because even they misread what they had. Steve young was yelling about this years ago
@@tgs5725 obviously cause I already know the outcome of last year. This year is still to be determined silly goose. Just showing the facts no need to get defensive lol
@dylanallen7720 when comparing two people you typically don't compare achievements that one player hasn't had a chance to earn. It makes you come off as disingenuous and makes people disregard your opinion.
You've gotta inject more speed into your pass rush and disguise your coverages. Zone blitz is your best shot against this guy, but there's still no guarantee it'll work.
Yeah. Prob w/zone blitz is you’re often taking corners out of coverage to rush..and DL drop back…which is a receive for disaster.. in more than 2 ways.
At 8 minutes you talk about a play that "schemed hill open" with Likely setting a block, but I'm pretty sure in the game itself he got called for OPI so it doesn't really work
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“No QB Has ever played the position like him?”
Bruh have you ever heard of MICHAEL VICK?!🤔
@@kingdomtalk3264 Vick was better than Lamar.
You took a BIG L on this take Alex.
well this didn't end so well.
As a rabid Ravens fan....Greg Roman was the perfect coordinator for Lamar in 2018 & 19 (he wasn't officially the OC in 2018, but once Jackson took over as starter it was Roman's offense). In 2020 we started seeing signs that Lamar was ready for a more complex passing attack, but despite having all of the 2021 & 2022 seasons, with passing game specialists added for 2022, the Ravens aerial attack was severely limited both by talent at wide receiver and by Roman's play designs. By last year, most Ravens fans wanted a new OC in place, and thank goodness we finally got Monken (and some better receivers).
Lol nah imagine if he had Todd Monken or Ben Johnson from the start.
@@Sportsguy0258right……. I blame Harbaugh, he should have been seen this
@@Sportsguy0258 greg roman was necessary in order for lamar to fully develop into the player he is now. he was able to make him a great runner and now todd is using him as a great passer.
Nah Roman wasn’t the best for Lamar it was best for what ravens wanted to do. Lamar has always played like and wanted to play like this in college. Instead they wasted start of his career by leaning into a low ceiling offense
@@cap14444dude didn’t him nothing he was good enough from the start. What happened was Roman dream quarterback for his play scheme fall into his lap. If you watch him at Louisville you would all he needed was some experience that’s it. Greg was not necessary he would have been good regardless.
For me, the pocket presence has been second to none… the awareness he’s shown in the pocket along with the athleticism to evade pass rushers… he’s a scramble drill nightmare
His offensive line got way better as well
Nahhh this masked guy is the same guy that was commenting the 49ers were gonna destroy us 💀💀
Lamar still has room to grow. But my God. Watch that 2019 playoff game vs San Diego. He looked like Josh Dobbs with less passing ability. The growth has been amazing, unprecedented almost for a qb running that much.
Absolutely. We got better pieces for the O-Line, and the use of the legs that Lamar developed with Greg Roman can now be used to extend pass plays and get defenses even further out of position and stretch them really thin.
He had that since park ball not greg roman
Lamar is giving everybody their best opportunity to shine while simultaneously taking a lot of the pressure off of them. Which leads to big plays.
Facts but ppl over looking for sure
@@Mrfantastic-hp2en If you say so. If he wins this superbowl, it'll be proven right. If he loses, he's exposed. :)
he was, infact, possible to defend
he wasnt playing normal bruh
Nah the ravens offense made no sense. 0 adjustments and they didnt build up the threat of him running the ball. He was way underutilized because of their gameplans
@@aesir748if the run game is taken away (by bad play calling. Or defense) Lamar is beaten easily.
@@vTheHeroicIdeal 😱 A qb is going to lose if they are given bad play calls?😱
@@aesir748 Mahomes is given bad play calls and makes them
Work or audibles lol
10:00 that transition was smooth showing two different deep balls he's thrown
When you end the video with a banger line like "This time they know how to play, and this time they will win the Superbowl." 🔥🔥🔥
And the they get bumped by KC despite holding KC to 17 pts and shutting Mahomes down
As a rabid Ravens fan...Greg Roman was the perfect coordinator for Lamar in 2018 & 19 (he wasn't officially the OC in 2018, but once Jackson took over as starter it was Roman's offense). In 2020 we started seeing signs that Lamar was ready for a more complex passing attack, but despite having all of the 2021 & 2022 seasons, with passing game specialists added for 2022, the Raven's aerial attack was severely limited both by talent at wide receiver and by Roman's play designs. By last year, most Ravens fans wanted a new OC in place, and thank goodness we finally got Monken (and some better receivers).
Lamar is giving everybody their best opportunity to shine while simultaneously taking a lot of the pressure off of them. Which leads to big plays. Alex and his analysis are 2nd to none. He has taught me everything I know about football For me, the pocket presence has been second to none… the awareness he’s shown in the pocket along with the athleticism to evade pass rushers… he’s a scramble drill nightmare 10:00 that transition was smooth showing two different deep balls he's thrown He seems just big enough to withstand some hits. Really hope he can stay healthy for however long this season lasts for the Ravens. Feels like any QB is just moments away from a serious injury. The way he throws the ball is too cool. It’s like he’s throwing a small nerf ball. Amazing talent When you end the video with a banger line like "This time they know how to play, and this time they will win the Superbowl." 🔥🔥🔥For explaining in detail Greg Roman's tenure as Lamar OC. Fans have believed the organization didn’t try to help Lamar. While it didn’t happen immediately, although they were attempting, to build a strong WR room around Lamar. Roman was good for his development. The MVP year accelerated expectations for Lamar and that’s fair. However, the organization has always supported Lamar and has done their due diligence when necessary. ~ Lamar’s college coach recently praised the organization for their dedication and due diligence in support of Lamar since before the draft. Most recently in their search for an offensive coordinator that would elevate Lamar. Also FTR I recently rewatched that 2019 game. Lamar played much better than the stats indicated. Although putting up over 500 total yards in any game is insane. The receivers had 7-8 drops. The very first was momentum changing. Greg Roman was also 💩the bed in that game putting Lamar in a position/formations he hadn’t been in all season.
Nonetheless, Context matters. Salute to you for providing such on this video Chiefs fan here. Absolutely terrified of facing the Ravens in the playoffs. I used to be a Lamar doubter, thinking he was only a scrambler and that he didn't have a whole lot of arm talent. He's definitely proved a lot of people wrong in that regard. I think they'll have some deep playoff runs for years to come if they keep the coaching tree intact and Lamar healthy. That’s my MVP quarterback! 🏆Sometimes I wake up in cold sweats thinking about the Eagles trying to defend Lamar 😅Great video! I may be an Eagles fan, but, I will be rooting for Lamar and the Ravens in the AFC side of the playoffs, and I will be very happy for Lamar if he were to win the Super Bowl! Remember when, back in the off-season, during the contract issue, he could have possibly been available, and a lot of teams said that they didn't want him? Bateman’s blocking on that second Hill pass 🔥🔥🔥Lamar had these skills already If you watch him in college at Louisville. He was playing the same way that he is playing now. Lamar was in an NFL system with Bobby Petrino as his Head Coach but to me, Greg Roman held Lamar back for 4 years... Just ask the fans because all they were complaining about is they're not throwing the ball. It was run on first down, run on 2nd down, and even sometimes they would pass on third down.😂😂😂😂The Greg Roman apologia really undermines Lamar’s college career. Yes, like all QBs he’s a better passer but he has always been able to pass. Congrats on the 100k subscribers! I enjoyed your videos long before I looked at your last name. Would love to see a video on Raven Inside/Outside Zone Read, Power Read (Inverted Veer), and GT Counter Read. I haven't seen anyone do it right yet... Can you believe they didn’t want to pay this guy? It boggles the mind! He’s one of the best 3 players in the league along with Trent Williams and Justin Jefferson. If Lamar wins the Super Bowl this year, he and Mahomes will be that Brady and Manning esk 2.0 because both of them are more athletic than both Tom and Peyton. Also, every year even if the teams around them aren’t the best, they’re gonna get their team to at least the playoffs, and everyone else is gonna have to beat one of them to get to where they want to go. Plus with a Super Bowl, you can’t deny Lamar & Mahomes will be the top two QBs in the league in my opinion week 1.
Thank you.
For explaining in detail Greg Roman tenure as Lamar OC.
Fans have believed the organization didn’t try to help Lamar. While it didn’t happen immediately, although they were attempting, to build a strong WR room around Lamar.
Roman was good for his development. The MVP year accelerated expectations for Lamar and that’s fair.
However the organization has always supported Lamar and have done their due diligence when necessary. ~ Lamar’s college coach recently praised the organization for their dedication and due diligence in support of Lamar since before the draft. Most recently in their search for an offensive coordinator that would elevate Lamar.
Also FTR
I recently rewatched that 2019 game. Lamar played much better than the stats indicated. Although putting up over 500 total yards in any game is insane.
The receivers had 7-8 drops. The very first was momentum changing.
Greg Roman also 💩the bed in that game putting Lamar in a position / formations he hadn’t been in all season.
Nonetheless,
Context matters. Salute to you for providing such on this video
Greg Roman did a lot more for Lamar than people like to admit. He got way too predictable down the stretch however he did a lot for Lamar as far as run schemes
I think another factor as well with the 2021 and 2022 season is how injury depleted we were those seasons. Ronnie Stanley was out most of those two seasons, all three of our runningbacks were out or struggling to come back ( Dobbins, Gus and Hill). Last year our wr depth was basically gone, Bateman was suppose to step up and become our #1 or at least a legit #2. Missed most of the season. Duverney was out half way through the season. I mean, we were starting DeSean Jackson later in the season.... Finally getting healthy and bringing in Todd Monkin made all the difference.
That was Ozzie Newsome not Roman or anybody else. He been looking at him since he was freshman at Louisville. A raven scout even said it was Newsome who was looking at Lamar for future first. Newsome kept sending scouts back there to look at Jackson more.
Lamar didn't produce bc of his run schemes. Lamar produced because he's a generational talent in the open field and makes the best defenders struggle to tackle him. This is like saying the Titans OC was the reason Henry went for 2k yards a few years ago.
@@maskedman5657yeah GRo is a mastermind with running schemes but they got predictable over time and didn't have a great counter punch in passing the ball. Part of that was the WR talent they had, but also on him.
Lamar: "You aint gotta guard, it....I'm throwing in triple coverage, and guess what else, I'M FLOATING THIS BIHHH"
Alex and his analysis are 2nd to non. He has taught me everything I know about football
Alex is really awesome. If you’re interested in someone else that’s very X’s O’s check out Brett Kollman, assuming you haven’t already. Hope you enjoy the playoffs (:
@@benztheworst5179 yup
I remember a few months ago when he was telling us how great Bryce Young was gonna be
@benztheworst5179 I do listen to Brett's channel. He is cool, too
@flerbus nothing is perfect science, though it's all about potential when it comes to the college kids
@@sfanelemhlongo935 i get that predicting the future is not an exact science
i am just always amused at the amount of ballwashing in the comments
and i don't need to be an expert to tell you that bryce young is going to be a mediocre nfl qb...at best
He seems just big enough to withstand some hits. Really hope he can stay healthy for however long this season lasts for the Ravens. Feels like any qb is just moments away from a serious injury. The way he throws the ball is too cool. It’s like he’s throwing a small nerf ball . Amazing talent
Him becoming much nastier of a pocket passer will help keep him around similar to Randall Cunningham’s career reinvention
Watch him play, he rarely takes any big shots. I've never seen a player avoid contact so easily.
Lamar doesn’t really take big hits like that. He’s too elusive in the pocket so landing a big hit on him is difficult
This is a funny narrative that keeps getting perpetuated. Lamar rarely gets those big hits on him when he's on the move. But it also helps when the offense is spread out so the defense front 7 aren't bunched up trying to contain Lamar in the pocket. Give Lamar more space to move and his scrambles look better.
Well... um... about that...
Great video! I may be an Eagles fan, but, I will be rooting for Lamar and the Ravens in the AFC side of the playoffs, and I will be very happy for Lamar if he were to win the Super Bowl! Remember when, back in the off-season, during the contract issue, that he could have possibly been available, and a lot of teams said that they didn't want him?
I'm thankful to all those teams because they set him into revenge mode lmao
“But Lamar… is him.” 😂
Is that right?
This aged well after the AFC game
Yea Lamar has improved but this narrative that he didn’t know how to pass from the pocket and made this enourmous jump is simply not true! Lamar has always been a good pocket passer when he’s had the opportunity.
The only difference is he now has skill players that can make plays and get open consistently paired with a Modern an competent passing scheme.
Are we all of a sudden gonna say mahowms has regressed this year simply cuz his receivers can’t catch and the talent around him has gotten worse? No
True. But he covered all that basically in first 30 secs of vid
The difference is he has a better Line to protect him and with time
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And a good running back who makes people miss while not a huge stat rb he does enough for the defense as Alex said to constantly be confused and Lamar the elite qb he is eats em up
Lamar became a pocket passer and was exposed in this most recent playoff loss
This is some of the best qb play I have ever seen. And he never tries too hard to make something happen. He is really special.
Bateman’s blocking on that second Hill pass 🔥🔥🔥
Not a chiefs fan but they certainly defended the ravens lmao
When your video is (literally) proven wrong in front of millions of people
If Lamar wins the Super Bowl this year, him and Mahomes will be that Brady and Manning esk 2.0 because both of them are more athletic than both Tom and Peyton . Also, every year even if the teams around them aren’t the best, they’re gonna get their team to at least the playoffs and everyone else is gonna have to beat one of them to get to where they want to go. Plus with a Super Bowl, you can’t deny Lamar & Mahomes will be the top two QBs in the league in my opinion.
Yup!
Only QBs in the league with 2+ MVPs and 1+ Super Bowl rings are Rodgers (4/1) and Mahomes (2/2), so presuming he wins MVP this year, any year he wins a ring is when he enters guaranteed Hall of Fame, top 20 QB all time status.
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so burrow gets injured and we forget about all that he's done, huh? he's still #2 until someone else wins a superbowl imo
@@nickcouture6406It is a shame that Burrow is injury prone so that he doesn't get to compete for the AFC championship this year. He would certainly be a contender if he can just prove himself healthy over the next few years.
Chiefs fan here. Absolutely terrified of facing the Ravens in the playoffs. I used to be a Lamar doubter, thinking he was only a scrambler and that he didn't have a whole lot of arm talent. He's definitely proved a lot of people wrong in that regard. I think they'll have some deep playoff runs for years to come if they keep the coaching tree intact and Lamar healthy.
Go look at Lamar Jackson Heisman Highlights:
You were duped into buying into the nonsense narrative "he was only a scrambler".
In his first full NFL (Unanimous MVP) season, Lamar tossed most Passing TDs of all QBs!
"Not bad for a running back", right?
Truth is: Ravens were half-arse when they drafted him.
And Raven were AGAIN half-arse when Lamar 'was tossed into the NFL fire' a lot earlier than planned.
For the first time, in 2023, Ravens have finally understood and appreciated that Lamar Jackson was a money-spinner to be exploited for their franchise.
As a ravens fan I think the Mahomes Vs. Lamar narrative has been fun. Both are dominant in very different ways and every time they play it's a wild game but that prick Mahomes is just always that tiny bit better in their meetings lmao. I hope to skip that meeting in the playoffs myself 😅 but I'm hoping the ravens will come out of the bye not flat and keep this play up. It will be hard to lose if they keep it up. Just gotta see them do exactly that, keep it up.
@@gDiniM I hope Lamar gets a ring this year, partly so we can see the Mahomes vs Lamar "rivalry" come into full force. Mahomes doesn't have much of a rival besides the older Rodgers legacy-wise and the much less accomplished Allen/Burrow age-wise and in head to head matchups.
@@navonmyhand7999 I want Lamar to win so I can stop listening to the dumbasses that think super bowls are the only way to grade a QB act like he's garbage. I will also enjoy that Mahomes and Lamar rivalry taking it up a notch though. Two world class talents playing like it every year and playing crazy shootouts Everytime they play each other
@@nirbija Ya Lamar's college career proves he has always been a good passer. Ravens just needed a better wide receiver core. Having 1 good tight end and 1 good receiver doesn't win games in the NFL. Now he's throwing to like 8-10 people every game. Its fun to watch football at this level of excellence, kind of like when you master a video game and only lose like once every 50 times lol.
That’s my MVP Quarterbacky! 🏆
You and 50 million others 👍
MVP with an 04 playoff record when his opens score two touchdowns. All you have to do to beat Lamar is be up by two scores and then the ravens get frantic and pass happy but the issue is, Lamar sucks at qb and throws picks, fumbles, makes bad decisions, etc.
Would love to see a Lamar Running breakdown in your style.
Like focusing on his feet and leverage like you do with WRs. It’s just fascinating to me the way he can move and make guys miss
Well this has aged
He wasn't impossible to defend today vs Chiefs!
The defense of Roman “early in his (Lamar’s) career” is bogus. The ravens had an objectively terrible WR room and passing scheme which they masked with Lamar’s legs, whether it was him running guys open or rushing. They leaned into narratives about him being a “running QB” which were blatant fabrications that completely ignored his passing performance in college with Louisville receivers. The ravens and Harbaugh used Lamar to bail them out in 2018-2019.
No the defense is correct. I don't think that Lamar would have been near as successful or got MVP that early if not for Romans run schemes. Yeah he got predictable down the stretch but the Ravens were dang near unstoppable in 2019. And I don't just mean because Lamar. I mean their run game was almost impossible to stop.
The Ravens actually right now still run a lot of GRO schemes
@@maskedman5657by 2021 Roman should have been fired. Their run game is still almost impossible to stop because when you have Lamar you can always scheme a run game. If they went spread with Lamar off rip he would have just progressed to this point much faster. Like this season could have been his 2021 season
Agreed. Roman ruined Jackson. Playing on his strength of running, Roman didn't and wasn't capable of taking Jackson's passing game to the next level. The Ravens brass didn't help in that regard by not firing Roman 2 years before they did.
When teams have the defensive player talent to force Jackson to throw the ball, game over.
The Steelers prove this as Jackson has a losing record against them and has more interceptions than TDs. Opponents copy the Steelers defensive scheme against the Ravens in the playoffs, contain Jackson by zoning the gaps and press the receivers.
The legs give out first, so once Jackson slows down, he won't even be an average QB.
And now with his salary taking over 20% of the team's cap money, talent at WR and the other 21 starting positions will soon thin out, not including the erosion of talent at the backup positions.
Double-digit regular season losses on the horizon.
Go Orioles!
Our 2023 team is way different from that 2019 team. The offense(mainly receivers) are way better. Our defense(mainly pass rush and LBs) are way better. Only thing beating the Ravens from going to the Super Bowl is injuries and the Ravens. We only need to win 2 games to get to the big stage and I think we will. We’re massively better than we were back then
Damn this RB can throw the ball
"Not bad for a Running back" -LJ
Hes the 1st RB with 3 PPR
@@DonteaYasinnot bad getting bumped out the playoffs again and being 0-4 in playoffs when his opener goes up by two scores. 😂😂
I feel like since 2019 he’s always been this good lol It’s just the increase of the talent around him & being given the keys to an offense that combines these good passing concepts with his own style that makes the difference.
does impossible to defend mean always loses in the playoff. because that is impossible to defend.
If the goal in the playoffs is to win the SB every QB except Mahomes failed
Congrats on the 100k subscribers! I enjoyed your videos long before I looked at your last name. Would love to see a video on Raven Inside/Outside Zone Read, Power Read (Inverted Veer) and GT Counter Read. I haven't seen anyone do it right yet...
There's been a lot of videos breaking down the "Ravens running game" on RUclips you can probably find them if you use that search.
Pressure him and contain on the pressure. Lamar’s all done. Ask Andy Reid.
Exactly what i used to tell my son, Romans passing scheme was too vanilla and schemed no1 open. The best offenses scheme their best guys open and feed them the ball. We fed no1 nor had anyone to feed anyways who had game breaking ability. Mandrews is 'him' but lets face it, hes not the most athletic TE. Lamar needed more just like any QB outside of Brady.
Agree.
Brady has some very good players. They weren’t always household names.
Even before Moss, and Gronk.
Tom Brady had one of the most underrated pass catching backs of all time in Kevin Faulk early in his career. Then half a dozen more over the years. Fans would be surprised the “stats” Brady’s running backs have had over the years.
Solid receiving rooms. No superstars, but talented enough to win Super MVP ~ Deion Branch. Wes Welker, the most dominant slot receiver ever. Edelman, Amendola, the TE talent.
Brady was the ultimate distributor. Lamar is elite at it… and has improved his skills. His style is different but the results are similar. The Ravens have four different receivers with 35 or more catches… TE’s even before Andrews injury were contributing now they get receptions. All the running backs get touches in the pass game.
That is both an intrinsic attribute for being a great quarterback, it is also a skill that has to constantly be worked on.
Lamar has that as well, constantly working in the off season to improve. Then he is humble as well.
I don’t get how fans “dislike” him. Quite honestly, how do they hate his style of play? I’ve been watching football for over five decades, and the most exciting players were always “beloved” even outside of their fan bases. As a fan of the game I don’t understand it. ~ I’m not naive either… I am assuming that can’t be the reason. We should be better than that. Shouldn’t we ?
Even Brady had to move on from New England, because of lack of WR talent.
It wasn't just too vanilla but too predictable and doesn't attempt to attack defenses weaknesses in coverage. Especially in late passing downs when opposing defenses already KNOW what the play is while Lamar and his offense are still in the huddle. Also the condensed looks were played out too often which also limited Lamar's obvious threat to take off in space. So even in those passing situations the defense was ideally lined up to close in on his escape angles.
I feel like with Roman we would have never seen Likely explode on the field as much as he has in the absence of Andrews. He even said so in an interview lately that he felt locked into a role before and now Monken actually uses his talents in the gameplan.
I wanna add something to that. Did no one (but me) ever notice _where_ Mark Andrews made all his catches & that No Receivers took his place? That when he was injured there was no one where Andrews would be, ever?
I think that Andrews defied Roman's play-calling & that because he was So Successful at it, the Ravens could do nothing about it.
QB's like Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and CJ Stroud are disrupting the QB position. Strong, fast, mobile QBs are changing the way the position is played. Teams are building offenses around the special talent players like this have and it is showing its dominance over defenses built to deal with pure pocket passers.
Some people are incapable of understanding the change that is happening right in front of them. Sometimes they use terms like "He is not Quaterbacky" to describe a type of play they are incapable of processing.
Stroud does not run the ball. He’s talented for sure but definitely not a run first QB. He’s not changing the position. He’s a great pocket QB . Mike Vick changed the QB position and Lamar is the closest talent to Vick
Lamar’s isn’t changing anything. He can’t win playoff games. He’s 0-4 when opposing team scores two touchdowns. Lamar can’t even catch up to two touchdowns 😂😂
@@vTheHeroicIdeal There is not enough data to determine that yet. John Elway was 14-8 in playoff games.
@@bluffroadron we can only speak on the current reality. Anyone can improve but at the moment. Lamar is 2 wins out of 6 total games and once his running ability diminishes that threat of the run is gone and he’s gonna be even more one dimensional than he is now. He will be forced to be a pocket qb which is like a death sentence for his play style
So fuck cam, and his records huh? @@BassDomination713
Except for the big games!
He was not, in fact, impossible to guard lmao
A college OC Killin it in the NFL is crazy
In his first year… crazy
He's been an OC in the NFL before
@@dontejones1039 really? When?
@@maskedman5657 He was OC for the Browns in 2019-20
@@Ravensfan213 That's cray. Didn't know that
Not a raven fan but I’d love for Lamar to win a ring so people stop disrespecting him finally.
Yeah ok😂
You called it last year!!! Let's see how you do this year. Thanks Alex!!!
Ravens offense was stopped plenty of times this season.
Been waiting for this upload!
this aged like milk
Lamar had these skills already If you watch him in college at Louisville. He was playing the same way that he is playing now. Lamar was in an NFL system with Bobby Petrino as his Head Coach but to me Greg Roman held Lamar back for 4 years... Just ask the fans because all they were complaining about is they're not throwing the ball. It was run on first down, run on 2nd down, and even sometimes they would pass on third down.😂😂😂😂
Lamar is a hard counter to these new NFL defenses. It's his era 🏈
Is it?
0-4 in playoffs when opponents score two tds. 6tds and 6 ints with fumbles sprinkled in. “His era”
I was waiting for you, now you are here. Thanks.
I was waiting for this!!!! Thank you!
This did not age well 😭😭
It never does. The delusional Lamar nuthuggers do this every year just for him to absolutely get exposed 😂 they’ll never learn.
Lamar nut huggers be line “he’s good! He just need an o line, better receivers, a good OC, etc” lmfao
The Greg Roman apologia really undermines Lamar’s college career. Yes, like all QBs he’s a better passer but he always been able to pass.
I think it also helped drive the wack ass narrative post 2019 that Lamar was more of a runner than a passer. When his accuracy on passes between the numbers was becoming elite post 2019. Even without an ideal receiver cast either.
Nah, it really doesn't undermine it. For anyone that saw Lamar in the 2018 preseason (or watched him in 2018 period), it's entirely fair to say that first coming out of college his passing mechanics were kind of rough, in the same way that a lot of QBs' are coming out of college. There was developing that he needed to do. That's not because he wasn't a legitimate passer at Louisville, it's more that there's a big difference between what gets it done at the college level (even in Power 5 Conferences, or whatever they're called now that there's about to be only four) and what gets it done at the NFL level. But anyone who saw Lamar play in the 2018 preseason would be forgiven for assuming at that point that he was *at least* a year, if not two, away from being a "proper NFL-caliber starting QB".
Now, I don't know how much his development is on Roman; it's clear Lamar is a smart man and has an insane work ethic, but what Roman *did* do was he built an offense that could play to Lamar's strengths as they were in 2018 (when his passing technique was legitimately pretty rough) and 2019 (when Lamar had already taken leaps and bounds forward and was already a capable passer, but was also a very young QB in his first full season as a starter) and help the Ravens be successful while he matured.
One thing I don't think Alex covered, but which has struck me and impressed me about Lamar, is that periodically, a defensive coordinator or someone will "figure Lamar out" (commentator's and analysts' words, not mine; every player has a counter, that doesn't mean they've been "figured out"). They will come up with something that just utterly flummoxes him. There was that Miami game a couple years back where the blitz just disrupted Lamar to an insane extent. There was the Chargers in Lamar's first playoff game just staying in dime defense *all the time*. It's happened a few times. But it never works more than once. You might get one over on Lamar. You might outsmart him or find a flaw in his game to exploit once, but he always learns from it, and he punishes any opponent that thinks they can get away with the same trick.
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@@fanboy50 Brian Flores' cover 0 didn't 'figure out' Lamar. GRO didn't have hot routes built in to combat those looks and the spacing for the wack ass receiver talent wasn't good enough to win getting to the flat/underneath stuff quickly. In fact the offense was figuring the look out late in the 4th quarter. Problem is that isn't enough time to make a come back. Difference with Monken is he has HOT routes built in his pass designs and his pass plays exploit opposing defenses game plans who are fearful of Lamar in the run game.
@@t4d0W I also didn't mean he actually "figured out" Lamar, hence why I put it in quotes. But it did have Lamar (and the offense as a whole) on the back foot. Again, my primary point is still that it worked *once* and then Lamar adjusted.
Basing from the title, one would think Lamar 3 peats as a Super Bowl Champ. In reality, he's ass with a 2-4 playoff record.
guess he could be defended after all
So much for this video 😂
But remember what Colin Cowherd said on draft day "Lamar Jackson's a project. He's not Sam Darnold. He's not Josh Rosen... He's not even close,"
I guess he is right, Lamar was nothing like Rosen or Darnold
its also helpful Lamar has a amazing o-Line. theres a reason Linderbaum made the pro bowl this year
As you can tell, teams being afraid to rush Lamar makes that o-line look way better. They are good but he definitely makes them better which what MVPs should do.
I agree, Lamar has made longer plays because of his mobile play. But still ravens oline is still top 5 because of their players 😊
Lamar makes his line way better. Brady did the same
Considering I'm a Ravens fan myself, I'm gonna say it's a mix of both
The oline isn’t good. Not amazing.
I’d say they are very good in run blocking but mediocre to down right awful more times than not in pass protection.
Thing is as Alex mentioned, defenses are so afraid of Lamar ripping off a huge run, they basically give Lamar a clean pocket just to contain effectively neutralizing any pass rush, which makes it look like the oline is actually better than it really is.
If we get a niners ravers Super Bowl, I’d love to see a breakdown of the niners defense regardless of winner because I know that game plan is gonna be incredible
Could it be that the modern defense being played so 'perfect' makes them predictable and easy to read. Yea these new defensive schemes are great and they do stop offense's and take pieces away. But as Lamar has shown there are gaps that can be exploited as the defense has their own set of rules they follow for coverage.
I loved that you covered the threat of Lamar running is a reason for this sucess. I feel like other creators and announcers miss the 'pressure' part of the game, which is a huge part of thr game.
Well of course that is obvious.
Lamar shouldn’t be penalized though for running ability an the fact it has defenses absolutely terrified which create lanes for him to pass.
That running threat also helps his teammates cuz defenses are so focused on Lamar, it creates running lanes as well as single coverage on the receivers.
been an obj fan since he was drafted... let's hope baltimore could win the superbowl this year so both lamar and obj and tucker and all the guys could get a ring!!
What a fantastic video! Great analysis with insane production value/editing to match. I love this video! #Flock4Life
Well damn
The craziest thing about this season is the fact that Brandon Staley put together the best game plan to stop Lamar out of any coach this year
Been a ravens fan so a long time and I still don't understand how people hate on Lamar...dude came into the league a beast...
When he’s accurate, you simply can’t stop him. Super Bowl winning pick is a sound assessment, especially with a ballin D.
Steve Spagnuolo figured it out…
How does spagnuolo do so well when he often has d rankings in the high 20s
Man videos like this are so funny in hindsight... I wish they had beat the chiefs tho
Lo and Behold the Chief came and conquered
It's ok Alex you can now be real and say Lamar can't throw.
4:44 Genuinely asking, how do you have the insight that Odell's route was improvised? Wouldn't you need to have seen the play call to know for sure, what are the tells here?
Forcing lamar to pass only worked whem he didnt have the wrs. He went from barely having 1 #1wr to having 3 potential #1 wrs
3 potential #1s is hilarious
Watching him cook up the Texans who actually look pretty solid is wild. Lamar just can't be stopped, anything you choose to do he just counters
nvm he sucked
We got lots of playmakers on both sides of the ball even last year before Roquan the defense was night and day
Can’t wait till the playoffs starts to see him go crazy
Thank you for this deep dive. I'm purely a stats guy so when I look at Lamar's stats i cant understand why he is mvp over prescott or cmc. Now I kinda understand.
Edit: When I said I am a stats guy that doesn't mean that I dont watch nfl games I just dont watch film.
Casual
LJ is a player that puts constant pressure on the defense. He forces the defense out of their game plan and into his. It takes an amazing talent to dictate that regularly.
@@Dimezprod Yep, thats why I needed this video lol. Well I'm mostly a defensive guy anyway its easier to read their stats.
It's time for you to watch the games
@@mightyJudah I mean I cant watch every game
Shoutout to John Simpson @2:12 in the vid, shutting down AD 1on1
He's a vicious dude, can't simulate what he does in practice prep, now the Gohan Ss level 2 pass game is here, he keep destroying Nfl perfect cell. 😊
Thanks for that Alex
Yea, he needed evolution and better weapons. Roman wasn’t bad, I just think he wasn’t as confident in Lamar passing ability as he should’ve been. His first season in Mac’s offense was great, next year he’ll probably be The best Lamar to date.
I don’t even watch football! I just watch only ravens games n move on wit my life 😂💯
Most people only watch their own teams. That's why you see so many stupid takes on the internet
@@TDR-0484 mhmm got a valid point!
Someone send this video to Jalen Hurts, Nick Sirianni and Howie Roseman. lmao
Are you sure about that? - John Cena
As a Steelers fan I'm very happy that you've just cursed the Ravens. Steelers over Ravens in the divisional round coming up!
(Now that I've said this the Steelers aren't making it to the playoffs)
Alex adopting the Kollman Curse? 😂
Likely has stepped and helped out alot.
Tbh the offense isn’t that different outside a few sets I always thought Greg Romans schemes were always missing a check down
Lamar made Roman’s scheme work not the other way around. He wasted Lamar’s early years in a low ceiling offense that relied on Lamar too much to work. Who takes the most dynamic qb and puts him in heavy formations instead of spreading the field with speed? This year was the ravens finally using common sense. Also Roman never allowed Lamar to audible or change protections. That alone should have got him fired three years ago
The various run designs from Roman were nice. Reminded me of Kliff's run scheme which also wore out its welcome the same way. The condensed sets on passing downs took away Lamar's angles of escape as it also bunched up the front 7 to just straight up go downhill. Contrast to his threat to run in spread formations and also make pass plays has put immense pressure on opposing defenses to stay sound in their run fit.
His run schemes worked with Capernick
@@maskedman5657 until they didn’t then he got fired and he disappeared from the league until the next great dual threat could pull it off. Roman has a shelf life of three years at OC with his system
@@t4d0W this is literally the dilemma that made him so productive in college despite lesser talent around him. Ravens were slow on the uptake because even they misread what they had. Steve young was yelling about this years ago
I been waiting on this vid for so long
🔥🔥 do a video on the falcons offensive issues
@AlexRollinsNFL I need help for my fantasy championship should I start Jordan love or stroud?
He looks so relaxed in the pocket. 😂
God damn if is this isn't the best outro on RUclips
last years mvp : 41 passing TDs 5,250 yds 4 rushing TDs and a superbowl win and sbmvp
this years mvp : 24 passing TDs 3,678 yds 5 rushing TDs
Why did you add the superbowl win and MVP win? This season isnt over yet for Lamar.
@@tgs5725 obviously cause I already know the outcome of last year. This year is still to be determined silly goose. Just showing the facts no need to get defensive lol
@@dylanallen7720 The reason they would give him the MVP is not going to because of TDs or Passing Yards. It's because of his win percentage.
@dylanallen7720 when comparing two people you typically don't compare achievements that one player hasn't had a chance to earn. It makes you come off as disingenuous and makes people disregard your opinion.
@@tgs5725 so you don’t like facts? Weird.
Alex how do you get the nfl film
Pay for NFL+. Then you can get the All-22 angles
Great stuff 🫡
You've gotta inject more speed into your pass rush and disguise your coverages. Zone blitz is your best shot against this guy, but there's still no guarantee it'll work.
Yeah. Prob w/zone blitz is you’re often taking corners out of coverage to rush..and DL drop back…which is a receive for disaster.. in more than 2 ways.
In my opinion, the pocket passer will always be the most consistent method to win football games.
That hasn’t been true in years
That is until you look at the Browns footage
Well this aged poorly
At 8 minutes you talk about a play that "schemed hill open" with Likely setting a block, but I'm pretty sure in the game itself he got called for OPI so it doesn't really work