Despite it being loaded, I couldn't bring myself to even spend 35k on any camper that small. I've heard some say that Ember is like a Cadillac, and some owners state that they're turds on wheels like any other brand. Depends on your needs I guess? I'm going to places like KOAs, and my 10k Coleman built pre-Covid does the job. I could add solar/wheels/custom paint job/better jacks and still be way under 20 grand
I wish it were that easy! In RVs, more than many other industries, you absolutely get what you pay for. We use many premium components and higher quality build materials - they all cost more and perform better. “Better” is the goal here. The price reflects that mentality.
Absolutely love this floorplan that is loaded with quality standard features and two comfortable seating areas👍but $60,000 for a 22ft no slide camper is a little hard to justify😬
@@stopbreathereset958 I'm just listening to so many buyers that have said that their initial build quality is lacking that of a $60,000 no slide camper.
@Steve Z That Curt trailing arm suspension is worth 10 grand by itself. Aluminum frame with no wood to rot will make this last a little longer and hold value as well. Big truck Rv channel is testing a trailer worth 150,000 at the moment. This seems to be fairly priced, it will be way cheaper than MSRP. Cheers.
@@neilmac4730 Time will tell. They are a new manufacturer, so we’ll find out how their overall build quality is in 5-10 years. They don’t seem to discount them much. I’ve seen them priced in the mid $50,000 range but that might change, but if anyone thinks that’s a value for a 22ft no slide camper then God Bless👍
Excellent video Josh. I still want to see this size TT with a North South queen walk around and drop the second jack knife sofa for a bar stool eating space. Keep up the great work Ember!!!
Hey Josh, I respect the heckin out of you. Your passion and enthusiasm for the content you produce is infectious. I'm not even in the market for a new RV, but I will watch your stuff whenever I can. Thanks man.
Same here. I’ve toyed with the idea of a travel trailer but in all honesty I’m about a year out because I would like to pay cash and have no debt. Randomly came across this channel and have been binge watching and learning a lot for if and when I do get one. Thanks for the great content, candidness and humbleness. 🙂
I like this MSL layout best for the size anyway. As far as an outside kitchen, YES YES YES! If you missed it! YES! It doesn't need to be huge, a grill, a small fridge and a dog dish sink is ok. The water port is right there. Maybe a tiny adapter hose running to a faucet from that port, put a 5 gallon bucket under the drain. Build it to swing out for it's storage position. You're welcome 😂. Nice job Josh.
I wouldn't buy a trailer with more than one slide. Every RVer I've talked to online says they always always have problems such as the slide getting stuck or leaking water. And I've seen fifth wheel trailers with FIVE slides. That's just asking for trouble.
@@largol33t1 I worked in a slideout department for several years and I agree. Pain in the ass to build/install.. and after a couple feet you're asking the cheapest parts the industry can find to bear weight with terrible leverage.
I love a bunkhouse with no dinette of any kind. On rain days we could easily eat from our laps or even a portable/foldavble tv tray. If it’s not raining, we are outside for every meal. I wish more campers had no dinette options. The only thing we ever use the dinette for in our camper is extra prep surface or a catchall for our backpacks and stuff. Plus as a sleeping surface, unless they’re small kids, it sucks. 👍🏻
Another great option they could do with this is make a couch that switches into a bar top to eat at looking out that camp side window. They can use the adjustable bunk design to make that happen.
I could use this as a single's RV. I could store the teddy ruxpin mattresses in the pass thru and hang a rod in the bunk space and use it for my closet .. a dresser and even a tiny vanity could fit .. I like it! ❤
Glad to see that Ember is following through with creating a MSL version of all of their Overland bunkhouse models. It will be interesting to see if they do the same with their Touring Edition bunkhouse models...that would really be a game-changer for the RV industry. I love that they've updated their solar components to Victron and the A/C to the quieter/more efficient Trumba model. I wish that they would bulk up the frame on the Overland Series to enable CCC to increase to 30%-35% of total GVWR. The fact that the cargo capacity of this model is still only 1,250 lbs is not that overwhelming, even with the lack of the slide. I'd also wish they'd bring back the ladder connection point on the side of the trailer and not just on the back of the trailer. Being able to securely access the far side of the trailer comes in really handy in various situations...especially on slide models when you need to clear off the top of the slides but don't have to climb all the way on to the roof to do it. The idea of a modular camp kitchen setup is an interesting idea, but being able to secure it while going over rough roads would be a challenge. One of the reasons I've always been anti-camp kitchen (and pro-MSL) is because I've accumulated stoves, coolers, etc. over a lifetime of camping so a camp kitchen is really just a bunch of redundant gear. I can already replicate a camp kitchen setup up regardless of the RV and I'm sure I'm not unique in that regard. One thing that I think Ember should do in ALL THEIR OVERLAND SERIES MODELS is add 12v cigarette-style power outlets alongside their USB and 110v plugs throughout the RV. While ample USB plugs are great for charging phones and other small devices, there are a lot of devices that charge via 110v cords but with big, inline, omnipresent "power bricks" that reduce their voltage down below 110v and often into the 12v range. These include laptops, some larger tablets, speakers, electric razors, etc. These devices typically come with 110v cords because that's what everyone uses at home, but often you can order separate 12v cords for these devices from the mfg or from third parties on Amazon...which is how I recharge my laptop in the car. However, the 12v cords typically still have cigarette-lighter type plugs because the devices they are charging typically draw more power (or have bigger batteries) than USB charging can handle. THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS IS to be able to charge a bigger range of devices directly off of 12v, therefore, bypassing the invertor whenever possible because doing so is much more efficient, and your onboard battery power will last MUCH LONGER the less time the inverter is running. Other things that I'd like to see added to all of Ember's MSL models is: 1) a screen for the rear access door, which would be great for getting airflow through the RV instead of having to open the side cargo door every time; 2) 12v and/or 110v power to the front cargo box to allow for power to flow to the front cargo box for accessories in/on the cargo box like an air pump, etc. (or even to add a heating element to the propane side for cold weather camping); 3) an integrated off-grid water filter (like from Blu Tech)...or an easy way to mount and hook that type of heavy-duty filter into the existing water system; and 4) electronic anti-sway/ABS braking system - either integrated throughout the Overland Series lineup from the factory or as a factory option. All in all, I really like the direction that Ember continues to pursue with their Overland Series.
This dude is the best!! I’m new to RV shopping and these videos are soo informative and entertaining😂. The versatile bunk / storage space is amazing! I would want the option to add a batwing canopy?
I've never heard someone drop so many music references from so many different genres in one video, especially an RV video. But at least we all now know your playlist.
LOVE IT! Love the video, the info, the revisions (because the things I didn't like they fixed😀), the dad joke humor, and the honesty. I love the solar package update and the bunk area updates ARE HUGE. The storage pass through is really gross, but the bunk/storage area makes it a tiny issue. I would really struggle hitting the canopy arm because I'm severely clumsy, and I just know that would be an expensive learning curve for me. For that reason, I'd very sadly pass on having a canopy. No temptation to break something for me, please. Not a deal breaker. The bathroom sink looks SUPER cheap, it would be replaced PRONTO! But everything else is great. I don't have any other complaints and love this floor plan. For a single person who would mostly use the bunk for some outdoor toy's, and closet/dog space, I love it. And when the toy's are in use, friends could sleep there. Seriously, good job everyone!
Thanks for introducing this T.T. to us Josh. It has features that I have been looking for...no dinette(waste of space) and no pop-outs(something else to go wrong). I was looking at the CrossTrail 21XG because of the rear door, to be able to carry a kayak inside, along with my bicycle. I just didn't know if I want another vehicle to maintain...I already own a truck with a cap on it. The only thing I would hope to change is the standard toilet/black tank to a composting toilet such as, the "OGO" or the "Nature's Head". Eliminating the need to go to the dump station at all for extended "boon-docking". This trailer looks to be a stout build, the suspension, frame, aluminum and azdel construction. I like the fact that they have installed a two-burner propane stove top, not an induction cooktop that would drain more of the battery power. I wouldn't bother with the outdoor pull-out kitchen. I like to cook at a picnic table in the campsite, away from the rig, weather permiting. "Happy Travels!"
This is a great trailer! I really like that back door where you can also slide things in that way, and then the big door on the side if there is something bigger. Like someone else said that bottom area could be for a dog kennel and even a couple of kitty cats! Thanks, Josh. 😊😊
I'm only cooking inside away from bugs and elements, so an outdoor kitchen is a waste to me. Like the indoor "prep area" in the kitchen where I'd normally have my coffee maker, as well as the 2-burner stove with convection microwave. Perfect! Since childless, would use 1/2 bunks as storage. What an awesome winner topped off with a Murphy bed and sky view. Love it! (Dbl axels a plus.) Edit: I'd use the couch table attached for my kitchen prep. Forgot about that. Just LOVE this one!
35:12 to the whole team at Ember. From the manufacturing side to the design and sales side of things. This is one nice camper.! Can you imagine having younger kids and putting them in those bunks with the screens down ,while the adults sit outside around the campfire. As it’s getting late you can keep an eye on the kids and you can effectively watch them until they can’t keep their eyes open anymore! Good job, Josh and good job Ember. 😊
I asked and Ember delivered!! Fantastic layout, really well though out. Very few campers are designed with the single, remote working traveler in mind and I’ve met many on my travels, most all choosing a van. This beats that choice in so many ways. I could care less about a built in kitchen. Would really like to know the weight specs with the max solar package. This would be key for a lot of people as most adventurers would order it this way I think.
Solar equipment isnt heavy. My 3 foot by 5 foot house panels weigh less than 20 lbs each. I dont see a max solar option upping the weights by much unless you went fully insane on adding batteries.
Yes, weight is a big consideration for me as a mostly solo traveler (sometimes wife will tag along) that uses a 2007 Toyota 4X4 4Runner 6cyl Limited w/tow package, it may not qualify to tow this Ember. Ron (in Utah)
What would be a super super neat option, if they put a roof top tent on top with a pass through portal from inside so the kids or you and your spouse could sleep or just hang out up there. Scout campers have one similar. Just something fun to think about.
Love this model. As far as outdoor kitchen design, I’ve seen some euro models (don’t recall models) that have the slide out trays at base(floor) level that have your small sink, gas grill, some utensil storage, etc. something similar might work with this ember model 😊 🤷🏼♀️ I’m no engineering expert; many of the euro designs I saw I wish we had here with our stateside RV companies.
Josh, I heard this is by far the best overall AC unit in the RV market? true or false? Are they designing the same floorplan but higher GV with 2 axles for 2023? I would need to swap master bed with my upgraded RV mattress so I'm thinking that would not work with any murphy bed setup. Maybe it will fit but wasn't sure what you think? Max solar package on this unit is ?
Very cool unit Josh.. but you gotta go duel axle all the way. And after you've had the advantages of a slide, it's really tough to go back. Love the cargo access in the back, along with adjustable bunks. All other manufacturers be on alert.. Ember is an engineering genius!
I agree about the dual axles; I've had blowouts in single-axle trailers, and it's been a lot hairier than when there's another tire in the system. Regarding the slide, I can see either way...but Ember does have the 191MSL, which is basically the same thing with a slide. I can see cases for both: if I were a solo camper, the simplicity of the 190MSL would be attractive, and the extra space not a huge deal; for couples, having that extra couple feet is really nice.
@@boskone yep we got kids, so the extra space with the breakfast nook slide is critical, especially when the weather isn't cooperating. Will definitely have to checkout Ember when it's time for an upgrade. The backdoor and adjustable bunks look phenomenal.
@@elaineolson9951 dual axles provide greater stability when towing and parked/chocked, along with heavier GVW ratings. Duals will also allow you options in the case of a blowout on the highway in an emergency, whereas single axle blowouts can be very dangerous situations. But generally dual axles means more weight and a higher price tag. So there's a tradeoff between options, the build design and safety, versus trailer costs and towing vehicle limitations.
Love the simplicity! MSL looks amazing. Victron components is a huge improvement. A modular outdoor kitchen would be a great idea! I might simplify further with a black tank delete for composting toilet, and skylight delete.
I like this layout as well, love the kitchen side swap from the 191 MSL. And I've mentioned the idea of a modular outdoor kitchen module previously, so I'm a big fan of the suggestion! This layout makes me wonder how an optional countertop/breakfast bar in place of the jackKnife sofa would look. It may provide an open feel. Either way, I love what Ember is doing with these MSL models and the flexibility they are providing consumers.
I wonder if they are considering an option where you omit the second couch and do a desk/counter top eating and prep area with storage under. Similar to the Grand Design AIM 16BL and 18BH. Would look to make sense in this floor plan and give you additional counter and storage space with a camp side view. If you do that you might be able to move the TV to above the new countertop bar area and extend the kitchen counter at the same height giving you a lot more prep space. Then if ember included a few stools maybe one of those could be used if you had the lower bunk in desk mode. I would love to see that option!!!
Things I would look at improving in this model • Bug netting option for keeping out the blood suckers while enjoying the fresh air. • All electric inside the RV making it fully possible to be off grid if needed with fridge, induction cooktop and even convection microwave inside. People can always use a BBQ outside to cook things if they want to use gas. • The large side door on the back side I see no reason for, instead I'd rather see a wider full size door with an optional ramp I can pull out or attach to help bring in an e-scooter and those e-bikes and other items I might want to put in that space to bring with me. Would also be great for those with mobility issues to bring in their mobility scooter for the ride. Overall I love Ember and where they are going with things, always look forward to seeing what they come out with next. With all the videos my husband and I have watched, we've drawn out out own dream design of what we'd like to see, just waiting for someone to come out with something similar... or happy to give the design to someone like Ember who can make it a reality if in exchange they'd give us one to enjoy ourselves. One can dream ^^ Keep up the great job on videos Josh! Haven't seen anyone else that makes these RVs as interesting as you do. Much appreciated ♥
Hey Josh, couple of things/corrections on the Truma stuff as I have a FLX... the remote can set the temperature, but it's not the only way. The Truma "CP Plus" control panel next to the Ember control on the cabinet inside the door can also control the AC temperature (and frankly is a little easier to do so) and I'd assume they have it set up for the combi system too whereas the remote would only work the AC. Also, the Truma remote is deceiving as it has a 90's style cell phone slide down function with more advanced controls. Lastly, that black circle thing on the wall is an IR receiver for the truma remote (and I was told, but can't confirm) it's the thermostat sensor to read what the current temp is. There's also a truma IR sensor on the AC itself, so you can point the remote at either the dot on the wall or the dot on the AC to control it. If you have anyone buy a rig with Truma equipment, highly encourage them to read the Truma manuals as they're actually really well written (and easily accessible on their website too - I've saved each to the files section on my phone so I don't have to lug the weight around in the rig).
Yes! Can't wait to see the double axle version of this without a slide. Love the improvements they've made like Victron stuff. Also appreciate all their higher end stuff. I'd really like to see Ember try their hand at the classic airstream layout (bedroom in the front, bathroom in the middle, then kitchen and nice viewiful living room). It'd be more for a full time working couple than a mini toy hauler. As far as the modular kitchen goes, I don't think we'd have a use for it but maybe others would! If there's already a kitchen in the rig, that's what we'd use along with gear we already have to cook outside. Keep up the great work Josh and Ember! When they perfect a slightly larger, double axle, no slide version of this guy, we'll be ready! #rvnerdherd
I love the idea of a modular kitchen for the MSL models. Also, I think Ember needs to look at additional solar capability for Max in order to support the second (540ah total) battery capacity. Adding another 200 - 400 watts would make the camper almost fully self contained. And a convection microwave standard would be nice.
Now we are getting closer to perfection. I see Ember got smart and rotated the toilet to face the sink cabinet for both sides leg room. But I think they missed the boat on putting the kitchen on the road side. It was much better with the original kitchen on the curb side as in the MSL slide version. They should have kept the same layout as the slide version, but just put in a narrower two person fixed dinette on that curb side. The other only deficiency is the rear door - it should be about 12 inches higher to roll in an electric bicycle. For my preference, a single full width bunk on the "happy jack" system with large area toys and supplies storage space available with bunk raised to the ceiling would be great. The width of the trailer outside at 7-1/2 feet is ideal to see straight back along the trailer sides using the tow vehicles rear view mirrors. PS: I went and viewed the bunk house with slide version at lazy daze near tampa (they had a new condition pre-owned one) in Late march. Unfortunately, it was the non euro window version made during the window supply shortage, or i would have bought it. I do prefer the msl large side door. Some day the right model at the right price is going to be mine.
As someone who likes to go off grid dispersed camping, I really like the solar package. A Three way fridge would be nice as an option. I like the murphy bed (I also roll around and snuggle). The fridge seems to be a good size and the bathroom looks nice. Storage seems to be plentiful and the cargo tie downs are handy. I do like that there is no slide. I give it two thumbs up.
I love this one, definitely my favorite trailer under 100k. Liked it so much that I filled out their order interest form back in March (and sent a couple follow up emails), but I never even got a response from Ember. That doesn't inspire confidence in their customer service after the sale. However, I love the floor plan - the flex space with no slide is great. In the kitchen, I'd prefer the countertop be all the same level (vs. dropping down), but not a big deal. Wish they could somehow give it the same kitchen as the 170 MRB - that's a beauty! I'm a little wary of the TV location in the kitchen, seems like it would get dirty from cooking? I hope this floorplan will be a permanent part of their line up and not just a limited run - I'd like to pick one up.
I think the "limited edition" thing they have on it is more reflecting that they are only building a limited initial run to dealerships and may not have enough to go around at first It's a full fledged member of their lineup for sure
great layout. I think just inside the front door, the fire extinguisher and switches can swap space so fire extinguisher won't block the path. Plus it is easier for people to turn on/off the switch without door fully opened. Just my 2 cents.
I love this model! Love Embers anyway, but well done, Ember, for designing this based on customers' input! 👏 I love how versatile and multi-use it is, and how relatively light weight, simple and beginner-friendly it is. Josh, I really like that suggestion of the modular, removable camp kitchen! 👍
I agree with you on the bathroom. And I think the modular camp kitchen is the way to go in the future. It seems like most buyers don’t want the camp kitchen so offering a module unit that’s removable takes care of those who want one while allowing Ember to standardize around the configuration the majority of people want.
Standardization of the MSL concept with a "slot in" camp kitchen seems like the only way they can keep their floor plan lineup from becoming an absolute mess in my view
lots of good features, great for a couple, Bunk beds would have to go to utilize better storage options using the already built in wall supports in that area.. Thats also a hefty price tag for a single axle, no slide RV. I would be happier with a double axle version at that price point. Still on my top 10 wish list though. Oh, and NO outside silly speakers.....
Almost Perfect, 1st Add 3' to keep it under 25', 2nd turn the queen bed (Front to back) and add a 2nd axle, will not buy a single axle, one blow out and it's done,....getting there 👍
Thank you Josh. This one is awesome. I found my new favorite. They fixed a lot of the things that I wasn't sure about before. The bathroom space is great still, the tv is a good spot, better solar equipment, and no slide to worry about. I would like the idea of a removal camp kitchen since there isn't a lot space in the kitchen. I was thinking of bringing a griddle in and a small table back there. The one thing left is I saw a few not great reviews by owners of other models. Did they fix the floor so it doesn't turn black? Are they getting better about warranty work? I saw a very concerning video where when it was fixed it was replaced the trim with nasty quarter round and they cut the floor so there was this weird seam.
@@JoshtheRVNerd I’ve been looking for something to live out of when I’m stationed away from the family, that I can still store all my kit while having a smallish, footprint. Love the fact I can a set those bunks to make basically a walk in closet/storage, and have what equates to a studio apartment. Now it’s just figuring out the budget 🤣
For the bunk area i like the idea of modularity for the bottom space. Its kinda built in with the adjustable system. The side door for that area would be awesome if it 'swung both ways' so to speak for a outdoor kitchen and was split in the middle such that it would flip up for prep mode, then closed and flipped down as a table for eating mode, and the split would allow it to do both at once, half and half as it were. Other swaptions for that area would be a single bunk (top) with collapsable office inserts, or since its adjacent to the loo, a side by side or AIW laundrette/dressing room could be an option. Similarly to the office, and since both bunks are adjustable in height from the floor, it could also double as a on road school room. With the right understanding and design, it could be combo'd depending on whats wanted. Deviating from the bunk area paradigm, the space itself could just be an expanded bathroom, adding in a nice full tub, swap in a full door for the smaller cargo hatch, add in a fold down step and now you have a rear entry luxury bath and you could do a mud/ dressing room and laundry. This would be a bath with two entries, one from the living, then one from the dressing, and the dressing would have a entry exit door to the outside and it would have an accordian door on the living end. It just flows all the way through efficiently for a couple. For the dual entry, the dressing room would have a jump bench for sitting, a side x side or AIW laundry machine, above which would be a mirror, medicine cab and sink so that one person showers/poos then goes to dress, the 2nd person can then poo/shower. Another option, given the height that bunk could be a secondary lounge/bar area. Given the seating area and limited kitchen counter space, this would be the perfect space for setting up a game day buffet w/o people getting in the way of the tv for seconds and refills. 60k as reported is hard to justify for the size, but not the quality or features. Its one of the confounding moments when you realize that sometimes you are paying for what you dont get. Its for people looking for the versitile features of a big travel trailer, 5thW, or even an a or c but in something only 2x the size of a larger teardrop like the bushwhacker+.
I love this, but I have to ask, for the bathroom shelves is the a net or something that you can get to hold the stuff on the shelves going down the road? Maybe one big one that is removeable when you get to where your going. Fold it up and put it aside.
I would LOVE this model for my daughter and her family! And it does have the spray port and the propane hook up, so bringing a portable camp stove would be perfect, and it's all under the awning! Also love the skylight!
Considered this innovative design but bought a real toy hauler because this design won't allow loading motorcycles or bikes. Thanks for your many tips and comments in general ... found them informative and useful.
I'm a sucker for camp/exterior kitchens in RVs. The MSL bunks with modular kitchen seems like a great idea to have the best of both worlds but, it got to be executed right.
looks like a great trailer! really like the removable bed/storage area? Bring the bikes for a Moab trip and keep them out of site while traveling. some will have more invested in bikes than the truck now a days.
On the outdoor kitchen…When I was growing up, we had a coleman pop up that had a sink/stove combo that would swing out from the inside to become an outdoor unit. This is a space and weight saver. I would think this can be done, just not with the floorplan shown.
Still using the rooftop A/C. Do a mini split. No need for lifted off-road suspension. Give me a road-going version. I would still like to see the kitchen slide out just for that extra room and I think the floor plan would be great.
Definitely a mobile office option. I'd also like an EZ connection for a DC to DC charger to keep the battery set charged up while driving in overcast conditions.
mI lovw the Ember, and really want the tandem axle version, bhut the hitch weight is probaly going to take me out of the capcity of an F150...TY for the vids and keep up the great work as it really does help us decide on what we like, want, and know what our TV can handle!
Great Camper!!! Now price it at 35k and these will sell like hotcakes!!!!! Make more profit by selling more!!! Now who agrees with me LOL.
Yeah because they’re are currently almost $50,000 for one
Despite it being loaded, I couldn't bring myself to even spend 35k on any camper that small. I've heard some say that Ember is like a Cadillac, and some owners state that they're turds on wheels like any other brand. Depends on your needs I guess? I'm going to places like KOAs, and my 10k Coleman built pre-Covid does the job. I could add solar/wheels/custom paint job/better jacks and still be way under 20 grand
Yeah it's cool but WAY too expensive. Should be price about half of what it is (or less).
If you are not at a minimum of 40% gross margin, you are highly at risk of going under as a business.
I wish it were that easy! In RVs, more than many other industries, you absolutely get what you pay for. We use many premium components and higher quality build materials - they all cost more and perform better. “Better” is the goal here. The price reflects that mentality.
Absolutely love this floorplan that is loaded with quality standard features and two comfortable seating areas👍but $60,000 for a 22ft no slide camper is a little hard to justify😬
The price tag is what you get when you build something the way it’s supposed to be.
@@stopbreathereset958 I'm just listening to so many buyers that have said that their initial build quality is lacking that of a $60,000 no slide camper.
@Steve Z That Curt trailing arm suspension is worth 10 grand by itself.
Aluminum frame with no wood to rot will make this last a little longer and hold value as well. Big truck Rv channel is testing a trailer worth 150,000 at the moment.
This seems to be fairly priced, it will be way cheaper than MSRP.
Cheers.
@@neilmac4730 Time will tell. They are a new manufacturer, so we’ll find out how their overall build quality is in 5-10 years. They don’t seem to discount them much. I’ve seen them priced in the mid $50,000 range but that might change, but if anyone thinks that’s a value for a 22ft no slide camper then God Bless👍
@@stopbreathereset958 like the old metal Coleman coolers.
Love it! I’d love to see them make a 220MSL tandem axle version with no slide and full north south bed. Yes for the modular camp kitchen griddle!
Yesssss
Agreed!
I think this would be a good idea too!
@@christopherjbarth you should tell someone at Ember to do that
Have you seen the new 240TKR?@@JoshtheRVNerd
Excellent video Josh. I still want to see this size TT with a North South queen walk around and drop the second jack knife sofa for a bar stool eating space. Keep up the great work Ember!!!
Hey Josh, I respect the heckin out of you. Your passion and enthusiasm for the content you produce is infectious. I'm not even in the market for a new RV, but I will watch your stuff whenever I can.
Thanks man.
wow Thank you!
Same here. I’ve toyed with the idea of a travel trailer but in all honesty I’m about a year out because I would like to pay cash and have no debt. Randomly came across this channel and have been binge watching and learning a lot for if and when I do get one. Thanks for the great content, candidness and humbleness. 🙂
@@dustinjames4530 Thx for joining up and tuning in! :)
I like this MSL layout best for the size anyway. As far as an outside kitchen, YES YES YES!
If you missed it! YES! It doesn't need to be huge, a grill, a small fridge and a dog dish sink is ok. The water port is right there. Maybe a tiny adapter hose running to a faucet from that port, put a 5 gallon bucket under the drain.
Build it to swing out for it's storage position. You're welcome 😂. Nice job Josh.
Ty!!!
I love the fact that they finally built a trailer without the slide. I definitely like how everything was built.
I wouldn't buy a trailer with more than one slide. Every RVer I've talked to online says they always always have problems such as the slide getting stuck or leaking water. And I've seen fifth wheel trailers with FIVE slides. That's just asking for trouble.
@@largol33t1 I worked in a slideout department for several years and I agree. Pain in the ass to build/install.. and after a couple feet you're asking the cheapest parts the industry can find to bear weight with terrible leverage.
I love a bunkhouse with no dinette of any kind. On rain days we could easily eat from our laps or even a portable/foldavble tv tray. If it’s not raining, we are outside for every meal. I wish more campers had no dinette options. The only thing we ever use the dinette for in our camper is extra prep surface or a catchall for our backpacks and stuff. Plus as a sleeping surface, unless they’re small kids, it sucks. 👍🏻
Mom similar- we often eat right from the couch at home
The color of your shirt is "your" color Uncle Josh! Very handsome color on you!
Another great option they could do with this is make a couch that switches into a bar top to eat at looking out that camp side window. They can use the adjustable bunk design to make that happen.
I like that idea
Now you are thinking!!
I could use this as a single's RV.
I could store the teddy ruxpin mattresses in the pass thru and hang a rod in the bunk space and use it for my closet .. a dresser and even a tiny vanity could fit .. I like it! ❤
Yeah super adjustable!
Glad to see that Ember is following through with creating a MSL version of all of their Overland bunkhouse models. It will be interesting to see if they do the same with their Touring Edition bunkhouse models...that would really be a game-changer for the RV industry. I love that they've updated their solar components to Victron and the A/C to the quieter/more efficient Trumba model. I wish that they would bulk up the frame on the Overland Series to enable CCC to increase to 30%-35% of total GVWR. The fact that the cargo capacity of this model is still only 1,250 lbs is not that overwhelming, even with the lack of the slide. I'd also wish they'd bring back the ladder connection point on the side of the trailer and not just on the back of the trailer. Being able to securely access the far side of the trailer comes in really handy in various situations...especially on slide models when you need to clear off the top of the slides but don't have to climb all the way on to the roof to do it.
The idea of a modular camp kitchen setup is an interesting idea, but being able to secure it while going over rough roads would be a challenge. One of the reasons I've always been anti-camp kitchen (and pro-MSL) is because I've accumulated stoves, coolers, etc. over a lifetime of camping so a camp kitchen is really just a bunch of redundant gear. I can already replicate a camp kitchen setup up regardless of the RV and I'm sure I'm not unique in that regard.
One thing that I think Ember should do in ALL THEIR OVERLAND SERIES MODELS is add 12v cigarette-style power outlets alongside their USB and 110v plugs throughout the RV. While ample USB plugs are great for charging phones and other small devices, there are a lot of devices that charge via 110v cords but with big, inline, omnipresent "power bricks" that reduce their voltage down below 110v and often into the 12v range. These include laptops, some larger tablets, speakers, electric razors, etc. These devices typically come with 110v cords because that's what everyone uses at home, but often you can order separate 12v cords for these devices from the mfg or from third parties on Amazon...which is how I recharge my laptop in the car. However, the 12v cords typically still have cigarette-lighter type plugs because the devices they are charging typically draw more power (or have bigger batteries) than USB charging can handle. THE POINT OF ALL OF THIS IS to be able to charge a bigger range of devices directly off of 12v, therefore, bypassing the invertor whenever possible because doing so is much more efficient, and your onboard battery power will last MUCH LONGER the less time the inverter is running.
Other things that I'd like to see added to all of Ember's MSL models is: 1) a screen for the rear access door, which would be great for getting airflow through the RV instead of having to open the side cargo door every time; 2) 12v and/or 110v power to the front cargo box to allow for power to flow to the front cargo box for accessories in/on the cargo box like an air pump, etc. (or even to add a heating element to the propane side for cold weather camping); 3) an integrated off-grid water filter (like from Blu Tech)...or an easy way to mount and hook that type of heavy-duty filter into the existing water system; and 4) electronic anti-sway/ABS braking system - either integrated throughout the Overland Series lineup from the factory or as a factory option.
All in all, I really like the direction that Ember continues to pursue with their Overland Series.
Man.. ty for the effort and time you’ve applied here. Allow me some time to pour thru it!
This dude is the best!! I’m new to RV shopping and these videos are soo informative and entertaining😂. The versatile bunk / storage space is amazing! I would want the option to add a batwing canopy?
Where would you want it to mount?
I've never heard someone drop so many music references from so many different genres in one video, especially an RV video. But at least we all now know your playlist.
Just don't go chasin' waterfalls, k?
LOVE IT! Love the video, the info, the revisions (because the things I didn't like they fixed😀), the dad joke humor, and the honesty.
I love the solar package update and the bunk area updates ARE HUGE. The storage pass through is really gross, but the bunk/storage area makes it a tiny issue. I would really struggle hitting the canopy arm because I'm severely clumsy, and I just know that would be an expensive learning curve for me. For that reason, I'd very sadly pass on having a canopy. No temptation to break something for me, please. Not a deal breaker. The bathroom sink looks SUPER cheap, it would be replaced PRONTO! But everything else is great. I don't have any other complaints and love this floor plan. For a single person who would mostly use the bunk for some outdoor toy's, and closet/dog space, I love it. And when the toy's are in use, friends could sleep there. Seriously, good job everyone!
TY so much for watching and sharing! They really are trying to fulfill what folks have been asking for. it just takes some time :)
Don't ever lose this energy. I love your vibe man
TY :)
What an amazing trailer!! I'm fairly new to the RV research, and THIS model is amazing!! ❤
It's SUCH a fun model and series
Thanks for introducing this T.T. to us Josh. It has features that I have been looking for...no dinette(waste of space) and no pop-outs(something else to go wrong). I was looking at the CrossTrail 21XG because of the rear door, to be able to carry a kayak inside, along with my bicycle. I just didn't know if I want another vehicle to maintain...I already own a truck with a cap on it. The only thing I would hope to change is the standard toilet/black tank to a composting toilet such as, the "OGO" or the "Nature's Head". Eliminating the need to go to the dump station at all for extended "boon-docking". This trailer looks to be a stout build, the suspension, frame, aluminum and azdel construction. I like the fact that they have installed a two-burner propane stove top, not an induction cooktop that would drain more of the battery power. I wouldn't bother with the outdoor pull-out kitchen. I like to cook at a picnic table in the campsite, away from the rig, weather permiting. "Happy Travels!"
This one was my pleasure for sure!
This is a great trailer! I really like that back door where you can also slide things in that way, and then the big door on the side if there is something bigger. Like someone else said that bottom area could be for a dog kennel and even a couple of kitty cats! Thanks, Josh. 😊😊
My pleasure Karen! It's a SUPER multi-functional design for sure!
I'm only cooking inside away from bugs and elements, so an outdoor kitchen is a waste to me. Like the indoor "prep area" in the kitchen where I'd normally have my coffee maker, as well as the 2-burner stove with convection microwave. Perfect! Since childless, would use 1/2 bunks as storage. What an awesome winner topped off with a Murphy bed and sky view. Love it! (Dbl axels a plus.)
Edit: I'd use the couch table attached for my kitchen prep. Forgot about that. Just LOVE this one!
Fair enough on the camp kitchen. TY
Nearly perfect. A dual axel would make it even better!
I am sure that’ll happen
For a small camper, your right, this is perfect for just about every type of individual.
Agree! It's SUPER multi-functional and does many things VERY well for a weirdly wide variety of owners
Love no slide!
man it must be so nice to be on a level in life where you can actually get things like this. this thing is like the perfect solo camper.
35:12 to the whole team at Ember. From the manufacturing side to the design and sales side of things. This is one nice camper.! Can you imagine having younger kids and putting them in those bunks with the screens down ,while the adults sit outside around the campfire. As it’s getting late you can keep an eye on the kids and you can effectively watch them until they can’t keep their eyes open anymore! Good job, Josh and good job Ember. 😊
It sounds pretty awesome to me :)
Incredible how such a light camper, under 5k pounds dry, and such great build quality and be so Big ❤️💚
Thank you!
I asked and Ember delivered!! Fantastic layout, really well though out. Very few campers are designed with the single, remote working traveler in mind and I’ve met many on my travels, most all choosing a van. This beats that choice in so many ways. I could care less about a built in kitchen. Would really like to know the weight specs with the max solar package. This would be key for a lot of people as most adventurers would order it this way I think.
Agreed! It’s really a stand out offering
Solar equipment isnt heavy. My 3 foot by 5 foot house panels weigh less than 20 lbs each. I dont see a max solar option upping the weights by much unless you went fully insane on adding batteries.
Why does a solo remote worker need a bunk house? Lol
Yes, weight is a big consideration for me as a mostly solo traveler (sometimes wife will tag along) that uses a 2007 Toyota 4X4 4Runner 6cyl Limited w/tow package, it may not qualify to tow this Ember. Ron (in Utah)
The one big miss, in my opinion, the sofa across from the kitchen - have a dinette option. You know how I like my dinettes!
Yes a two person dinette - but on the road side - same curb side as the bunk house model.
@@captaindanield5827 exactly, even better on that side!
Let’s hope there fit and finish has improved. If there are water leaks, and terrible fit and finish-it doesn’t matter how good the bones are.
Always liked a window in the bathroom helps with fresh air
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What would be a super super neat option, if they put a roof top tent on top with a pass through portal from inside so the kids or you and your spouse could sleep or just hang out up there. Scout campers have one similar. Just something fun to think about.
Totally agree. Seems like the stargazer skylight would be a great locale for that.
the 2nd floor will make it really unique and justified the higher price tag.
Roof top tent is an option. Does not say if it's accessible from the inside. Hard shell tent, so I doubt it.
The roof isn't exactly flat, so if you're into leaning...
Love the bunk system. Don’t need a fancy kitchen indoors or out.
I think I agree
Love this model. As far as outdoor kitchen design, I’ve seen some euro models (don’t recall models) that have the slide out trays at base(floor) level that have your small sink, gas grill, some utensil storage, etc. something similar might work with this ember model 😊 🤷🏼♀️ I’m no engineering expert; many of the euro designs I saw I wish we had here with our stateside RV companies.
Well, that was the most entertaining RV review I've ever seen! And well edited too. We clearly come from the same era and humor.
TY! I’m not a trained editor or anything. Just trying to put out the info I’d want to know if I were buying one of these!
I agree with your comments on the bathroom sink. Looks really cheap. Is there an aftermarket swaption available?
Hi Uncle Josh! Next time, would you please get on a bunk bed so we can see how challenging it is for an adult? Thanks for all you do!!
$60000 = Greed has taken over this planet😢
“Greed” is a bit relative. It’s also what drives the economy.
Ember is building it right.
See the Light:
Ember!
"See the Light" - i like that
Josh, I heard this is by far the best overall AC unit in the RV market? true or false? Are they designing the same floorplan but higher GV with 2 axles for 2023? I would need to swap master bed with my upgraded RV mattress so I'm thinking that would not work with any murphy bed setup. Maybe it will fit but wasn't sure what you think? Max solar package on this unit is ?
Much to my surprise, it's just what I imagined would work for me. How about that! Someone listened.🙂
I love how they're just like "people want this stuff? Let's do it."
Very cool unit Josh.. but you gotta go duel axle all the way. And after you've had the advantages of a slide, it's really tough to go back.
Love the cargo access in the back, along with adjustable bunks. All other manufacturers be on alert.. Ember is an engineering genius!
I agree about the dual axles; I've had blowouts in single-axle trailers, and it's been a lot hairier than when there's another tire in the system.
Regarding the slide, I can see either way...but Ember does have the 191MSL, which is basically the same thing with a slide. I can see cases for both: if I were a solo camper, the simplicity of the 190MSL would be attractive, and the extra space not a huge deal; for couples, having that extra couple feet is really nice.
@@boskone yep we got kids, so the extra space with the breakfast nook slide is critical, especially when the weather isn't cooperating.
Will definitely have to checkout Ember when it's time for an upgrade. The backdoor and adjustable bunks look phenomenal.
Yep, very cool RV but worried about single axle for long hauls… opinion?
@@elaineolson9951 dual axles provide greater stability when towing and parked/chocked, along with heavier GVW ratings. Duals will also allow you options in the case of a blowout on the highway in an emergency, whereas single axle blowouts can be very dangerous situations.
But generally dual axles means more weight and a higher price tag. So there's a tradeoff between options, the build design and safety, versus trailer costs and towing vehicle limitations.
Love the simplicity! MSL looks amazing. Victron components is a huge improvement. A modular outdoor kitchen would be a great idea!
I might simplify further with a black tank delete for composting toilet, and skylight delete.
I like this layout as well, love the kitchen side swap from the 191 MSL. And I've mentioned the idea of a modular outdoor kitchen module previously, so I'm a big fan of the suggestion! This layout makes me wonder how an optional countertop/breakfast bar in place of the jackKnife sofa would look. It may provide an open feel. Either way, I love what Ember is doing with these MSL models and the flexibility they are providing consumers.
Ty George!
I wonder if they are considering an option where you omit the second couch and do a desk/counter top eating and prep area with storage under. Similar to the Grand Design AIM 16BL and 18BH. Would look to make sense in this floor plan and give you additional counter and storage space with a camp side view. If you do that you might be able to move the TV to above the new countertop bar area and extend the kitchen counter at the same height giving you a lot more prep space. Then if ember included a few stools maybe one of those could be used if you had the lower bunk in desk mode. I would love to see that option!!!
Man... that could be really cool
Removable Bunks! Exactly what we've been looking for😮. But the price 😢
"and he passes Coors light to his dad ". Bravo 👏 👏👏👏. I like that. All the best to you.
Lol stay classy
@@JoshtheRVNerd Amen to that 🙏
Nice rig. I would not change anything. I just wish the price was around 40k. I would not add the camp station. Not needed. Great rig.
Ty for watching 😊
Things I would look at improving in this model
• Bug netting option for keeping out the blood suckers while enjoying the fresh air.
• All electric inside the RV making it fully possible to be off grid if needed with fridge, induction cooktop and even convection microwave inside. People can always use a BBQ outside to cook things if they want to use gas.
• The large side door on the back side I see no reason for, instead I'd rather see a wider full size door with an optional ramp I can pull out or attach to help bring in an e-scooter and those e-bikes and other items I might want to put in that space to bring with me. Would also be great for those with mobility issues to bring in their mobility scooter for the ride.
Overall I love Ember and where they are going with things, always look forward to seeing what they come out with next.
With all the videos my husband and I have watched, we've drawn out out own dream design of what we'd like to see, just waiting for someone to come out with something similar... or happy to give the design to someone like Ember who can make it a reality if in exchange they'd give us one to enjoy ourselves. One can dream ^^
Keep up the great job on videos Josh! Haven't seen anyone else that makes these RVs as interesting as you do. Much appreciated ♥
Wow ty for that! I appreciate your kind words and ty for visiting 😊
Would love to see an electric switch to move the bunks all the way up and down like ones in a tow hauler!
That’s also a near concept
Hey Josh, couple of things/corrections on the Truma stuff as I have a FLX... the remote can set the temperature, but it's not the only way. The Truma "CP Plus" control panel next to the Ember control on the cabinet inside the door can also control the AC temperature (and frankly is a little easier to do so) and I'd assume they have it set up for the combi system too whereas the remote would only work the AC. Also, the Truma remote is deceiving as it has a 90's style cell phone slide down function with more advanced controls.
Lastly, that black circle thing on the wall is an IR receiver for the truma remote (and I was told, but can't confirm) it's the thermostat sensor to read what the current temp is. There's also a truma IR sensor on the AC itself, so you can point the remote at either the dot on the wall or the dot on the AC to control it.
If you have anyone buy a rig with Truma equipment, highly encourage them to read the Truma manuals as they're actually really well written (and easily accessible on their website too - I've saved each to the files section on my phone so I don't have to lug the weight around in the rig).
_Really_ appreciate the info. Thank you so much!
Yes! Can't wait to see the double axle version of this without a slide. Love the improvements they've made like Victron stuff. Also appreciate all their higher end stuff.
I'd really like to see Ember try their hand at the classic airstream layout (bedroom in the front, bathroom in the middle, then kitchen and nice viewiful living room). It'd be more for a full time working couple than a mini toy hauler.
As far as the modular kitchen goes, I don't think we'd have a use for it but maybe others would! If there's already a kitchen in the rig, that's what we'd use along with gear we already have to cook outside.
Keep up the great work Josh and Ember! When they perfect a slightly larger, double axle, no slide version of this guy, we'll be ready!
#rvnerdherd
😊 TY for watching and sharing. They're always gathering input on these!
Optional and modifying bunk area/ kitchen. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I love the idea of a modular kitchen for the MSL models. Also, I think Ember needs to look at additional solar capability for Max in order to support the second (540ah total) battery capacity. Adding another 200 - 400 watts would make the camper almost fully self contained. And a convection microwave standard would be nice.
You can add a portable panel to these as well which helps close the wattage vs amp hours ratio gap btw
Now we are getting closer to perfection. I see Ember got smart and rotated the toilet to face the sink cabinet for both sides leg room. But I think they missed the boat on putting the kitchen on the road side. It was much better with the original kitchen on the curb side as in the MSL slide version. They should have kept the same layout as the slide version, but just put in a narrower two person fixed dinette on that curb side. The other only deficiency is the rear door - it should be about 12 inches higher to roll in an electric bicycle. For my preference, a single full width bunk on the "happy jack" system with large area toys and supplies storage space available with bunk raised to the ceiling would be great. The width of the trailer outside at 7-1/2 feet is ideal to see straight back along the trailer sides using the tow vehicles rear view mirrors.
PS: I went and viewed the bunk house with slide version at lazy daze near tampa (they had a new condition pre-owned one) in Late march. Unfortunately, it was the non euro window version made during the window supply shortage, or i would have bought it. I do prefer the msl large side door. Some day the right model at the right price is going to be mine.
I second the post of a previous reply "Yes a two person dinette - but on the road side - same curb side as the bunk house model.
As someone who likes to go off grid dispersed camping, I really like the solar package. A Three way fridge would be nice as an option. I like the murphy bed (I also roll around and snuggle). The fridge seems to be a good size and the bathroom looks nice. Storage seems to be plentiful and the cargo tie downs are handy. I do like that there is no slide. I give it two thumbs up.
TY Daniel!!
The bunk area make for a great office. I would just need one queen bed. I would replace the foam with a regular queen bed. No need for the Murphy Bed.
They have one coming like that!
I love this one, definitely my favorite trailer under 100k. Liked it so much that I filled out their order interest form back in March (and sent a couple follow up emails), but I never even got a response from Ember. That doesn't inspire confidence in their customer service after the sale. However, I love the floor plan - the flex space with no slide is great. In the kitchen, I'd prefer the countertop be all the same level (vs. dropping down), but not a big deal. Wish they could somehow give it the same kitchen as the 170 MRB - that's a beauty! I'm a little wary of the TV location in the kitchen, seems like it would get dirty from cooking? I hope this floorplan will be a permanent part of their line up and not just a limited run - I'd like to pick one up.
I think the "limited edition" thing they have on it is more reflecting that they are only building a limited initial run to dealerships and may not have enough to go around at first
It's a full fledged member of their lineup for sure
great layout. I think just inside the front door, the fire extinguisher and switches can swap space so fire extinguisher won't block the path. Plus it is easier for people to turn on/off the switch without door fully opened. Just my 2 cents.
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I love this model! Love Embers anyway, but well done, Ember, for designing this based on customers' input! 👏 I love how versatile and multi-use it is, and how relatively light weight, simple and beginner-friendly it is.
Josh, I really like that suggestion of the modular, removable camp kitchen! 👍
Ty!!
4 wheel independent suspension & north/ south queen line the 201 fbq & max solar .. add an oven like the touring or a convection microwave.
Will the rooftop tent hatch be an option next year on this model?
Yep yep!
I agree with you on the bathroom.
And I think the modular camp kitchen is the way to go in the future. It seems like most buyers don’t want the camp kitchen so offering a module unit that’s removable takes care of those who want one while allowing Ember to standardize around the configuration the majority of people want.
Standardization of the MSL concept with a "slot in" camp kitchen seems like the only way they can keep their floor plan lineup from becoming an absolute mess in my view
#1 thing I want in a camper that no manufacturers seem to care about - make it MOUSE PROOF!
Nothing is mouse proof. Unless it’s a welded metal box. If there a crack or seal of any kind, a mouse can get in
lots of good features, great for a couple, Bunk beds would have to go to utilize better storage options using the already built in wall supports in that area.. Thats also a hefty price tag for a single axle, no slide RV. I would be happier with a double axle version at that price point. Still on my top 10 wish list though.
Oh, and NO outside silly speakers.....
Almost Perfect, 1st Add 3' to keep it under 25', 2nd turn the queen bed (Front to back) and add a 2nd axle, will not buy a single axle, one blow out and it's done,....getting there 👍
That could be awesome
Agreed. Not too concerned with the bed because I’m a single guy, but for sure would never tow a single axle
Thanks, Josh! I’d LOVE an outdoor kitchen!
TY James!
Thank you Josh. This one is awesome. I found my new favorite. They fixed a lot of the things that I wasn't sure about before. The bathroom space is great still, the tv is a good spot, better solar equipment, and no slide to worry about.
I would like the idea of a removal camp kitchen since there isn't a lot space in the kitchen. I was thinking of bringing a griddle in and a small table back there.
The one thing left is I saw a few not great reviews by owners of other models. Did they fix the floor so it doesn't turn black? Are they getting better about warranty work? I saw a very concerning video where when it was fixed it was replaced the trim with nasty quarter round and they cut the floor so there was this weird seam.
Modular camp kitchen option? Yes please!
I seriously love this model! It’s so versatile and fabulous!!! Wish I had the $$$ for it today! Yes on the modular removable outdoor kitchen!
Love the commentary.
Ty!!
This checks most boxes for me. I don't mind the plastic bathroom sink, given all of the positive aspects. As you said, no RV is perfect.
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I'm a little late to the party. Boy, do I like the Missle! Love me some EMBER! Thanks Nerd
Never too late! TY Chris! :)
I like it when manufacturers give you modular options. Makes it easier for us, the end user.
Very cool set up!
This is a really cool camper. I’d love something like this
These are so fun
@@JoshtheRVNerd I’ve been looking for something to live out of when I’m stationed away from the family, that I can still store all my kit while having a smallish, footprint. Love the fact I can a set those bunks to make basically a walk in closet/storage, and have what equates to a studio apartment.
Now it’s just figuring out the budget 🤣
Ooooooo - portable removable camp kitchen! That would be cool!
I haven’t seen it yet but have heard they’re working on something
#NerdHerd 🎉
For the bunk area i like the idea of modularity for the bottom space. Its kinda built in with the adjustable system. The side door for that area would be awesome if it 'swung both ways' so to speak for a outdoor kitchen and was split in the middle such that it would flip up for prep mode, then closed and flipped down as a table for eating mode, and the split would allow it to do both at once, half and half as it were.
Other swaptions for that area would be a single bunk (top) with collapsable office inserts, or since its adjacent to the loo, a side by side or AIW laundrette/dressing room could be an option. Similarly to the office, and since both bunks are adjustable in height from the floor, it could also double as a on road school room. With the right understanding and design, it could be combo'd depending on whats wanted. Deviating from the bunk area paradigm, the space itself could just be an expanded bathroom, adding in a nice full tub, swap in a full door for the smaller cargo hatch, add in a fold down step and now you have a rear entry luxury bath and you could do a mud/ dressing room and laundry. This would be a bath with two entries, one from the living, then one from the dressing, and the dressing would have a entry exit door to the outside and it would have an accordian door on the living end.
It just flows all the way through efficiently for a couple. For the dual entry, the dressing room would have a jump bench for sitting, a side x side or AIW laundry machine, above which would be a mirror, medicine cab and sink so that one person showers/poos then goes to dress, the 2nd person can then poo/shower. Another option, given the height that bunk could be a secondary lounge/bar area. Given the seating area and limited kitchen counter space, this would be the perfect space for setting up a game day buffet w/o people getting in the way of the tv for seconds and refills.
60k as reported is hard to justify for the size, but not the quality or features. Its one of the confounding moments when you realize that sometimes you are paying for what you dont get. Its for people looking for the versitile features of a big travel trailer, 5thW, or even an a or c but in something only 2x the size of a larger teardrop like the bushwhacker+.
I am very annoyed with this Ember!. ..
Very annoyed it's not already hitched up to my truck😂
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Love all the music references 😂
Good because it’s like.. all I got 😆
I love this, but I have to ask, for the bathroom shelves is the a net or something that you can get to hold the stuff on the shelves going down the road? Maybe one big one that is removeable when you get to where your going. Fold it up and put it aside.
I’ve seen folks add little stuff like that
Needs an oven and a thermostat for the A/C and it would be perfect!
😍 Love this one. Practically perfect.
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My favorite Embers model!
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I would LOVE this model for my daughter and her family! And it does have the spray port and the propane hook up, so bringing a portable camp stove would be perfect, and it's all under the awning! Also love the skylight!
TY Debbie! :)
Considered this innovative design but bought a real toy hauler because this design won't allow loading motorcycles or bikes. Thanks for your many tips and comments in general ... found them informative and useful.
TY! Glad to be of service :)
I'm a sucker for camp/exterior kitchens in RVs.
The MSL bunks with modular kitchen seems like a great idea to have the best of both worlds but, it got to be executed right.
I’m eager to see what they come up with
This is real nice.
looks like a great trailer! really like the removable bed/storage area? Bring the bikes for a Moab trip and keep them out of site while traveling. some will have more invested in bikes than the truck now a days.
Like this as a class b option. Never looked at Jayco before. Excited!
Apologies but did you mean to leave this comment on another video perhaps?
I’m a music lover and all the references are awesome!!!
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I think this would make an amazing mobile office.
Absolutely
Agreed, Josh. The sink in the latrine is uncool.
That’s the perfect one!
Wow!
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
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On the outdoor kitchen…When I was growing up, we had a coleman pop up that had a sink/stove combo that would swing out from the inside to become an outdoor unit. This is a space and weight saver. I would think this can be done, just not with the floorplan shown.
Thx Les
Still using the rooftop A/C. Do a mini split. No need for lifted off-road suspension. Give me a road-going version. I would still like to see the kitchen slide out just for that extra room and I think the floor plan would be great.
This thing is so sick!! I want it now! ❤
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Definitely a mobile office option. I'd also like an EZ connection for a DC to DC charger to keep the battery set charged up while driving in overcast conditions.
mI lovw the Ember, and really want the tandem axle version, bhut the hitch weight is probaly going to take me out of the capcity of an F150...TY for the vids and keep up the great work as it really does help us decide on what we like, want, and know what our TV can handle!
It really depends on the specs on the truck in question. I see them paired up frequently