Getting to grips with Mining in 3.19
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Well...mining is certainly different now with a complete overhaul of nearly every aspect. This video isn't a guide since making one too soon and without proper research would be folly, but I am going to share everything we've managed to piece together so far to help you get to grips with the changes.
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Resources
Lasers: drive.google.com/file/d/1S34F...
Consumable Mods: drive.google.com/file/d/1cF63...
Permanent Mods: drive.google.com/file/d/1ZD9v...
Gadgets: drive.google.com/file/d/1Stat...
--Chapters-----
00:00 - Intro
01:05 - Channel Credits
01:39 - Breaking down the changes
03:56 - Distribution & Rarity
05:30 - Mass Changes
07:46 - Equipment Rebalancing (Lasers, Modules, Gadgets)
19:49 - Multiplayer Mining
20:46 - What does all this mean for miners?
27:08 - Final Thoughts 
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Literally been waiting for your take on mining loud guns. Your the mining guy 👍🏻
Thanks Cherronova 🙏
He really is the only one who I watch for mining content.
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Thanks! Not only did you carve out a cool niche; I appreciate that you're sharing your findings with the community. I definitely saw the rushed videos that showed the new 'best' strategies. Your methodical, scientific approach is definitely needed.
Fantastic work. I look forward to your well researched guide to come. Take your time. Thank you for this.
Amazing video LG and thanks for sharing all of your hard work and findings from the FRCN team, much appreciated!
Hey man doing great work out here and helping all these miners, and future miners get a hold on the game play loops and setting them up for success, thanks a bunch.
Best Mining Video I have ever seen. So I'm kinda excited to see what you do for a mini guide :)
I have to say this is such a good video. Much needed as the changes to mining are vast in .19. Thank you very much for putting this together.
Thanks for the input regarding lasers and upgrades!
Another exceptional offering from a master of his craft.
The amount of effort that you are doing to enhance play for everyone, from sharing insights and processes to theory crafting future possibilities, we share your knowledge. You are the best!
Looking forward to seeing you again in the verse!
Thank you for sharing, very thorough analysis on mining. You've gained a subscriber man. To the pleasure of meeting you in game.
Great work, been looking forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers Adder! Better delayed and detailed was my thinking!
Knew I would see a much more in depth update on the mining changes from you, fella. Great stuff 👍👍
my Husband and I appreciate the work your putting into these videos.
Like others have said, I've been waiting for your take. Thanks so much for putting in the work on this and great video!
Great video mate. That was well worth a watch.
Awesome thanks! You taught me my 1st time mining and now reteaching me on new info. I love your info sheets. I still have your old stat sheets you produced, I laminated them for safe keeping.
Haha - I’ll try and get some form of cheat sheet with all the info on one or 2 pages shortly
Just got back into mining before the 3.19 ptu patch dropped, been a few years since I did mining.
Enjoying myself again taking out the. mole, with a few friends.
Thank you for this summary and I'm looking forward to your Extensive guide in the future, great video as always.
Great review. Thanks. I haven't played SC since before Christmas. My main thing is mining and it had become quite dull. This sounds absolutely fantastic and i can't wait to take out my Prospector and discover how all of the gear works. Brilliant job.
Loud, I've been away from SC and Frontier for some time but seeing this video brings me right back. You have a way of making Star Citizen more entertaining than it is on it's own as does your ORG. Please tell everyone I'm still around and I'll be back to the org to mine with the best when I get this plant taken down. Your videos are the best.
looking forward to seeing the changes myself. Can't wait to see your new guide
I've been waiting for your video , Thank you Boss 👍
Haha cheers Chippie - hopefully doesn’t disappoint 👍
i appreciate all the info shared here...thanks!!!
The additions to mining are so exciting, I really love where they've gone with this.
Very good overview, thank you!
Thanks for this early analysis. I am the Industries Flight Leader for my org, and we are scrambling to collect data as well, but I VERY much appreciate the head start. (you have a new Patreon supporter as well!) Keep up the great work!
was wondering when ur 2 cents where coming :D thanks for this mate, great vid and I'll be eagerly waiting for the more in depth vids to come
Yeah don’t want to rush this stuff and deliver a quick but garbage take!
Great vid! thanks for all the info!
Excellent video sir! Thank you.
Just an excellent video, thank you.
Somehow I totally missed all of these changes. Thank you.
Wonderful video! Thank you.
Gr8 info and summary m8 thank you. Aware stats are preliminary and may change but still sounds like an interesting challenge and anything to make the MOLE gr8 again is a welcoming change in my book.
TY for the great summary - this topic will probably take some time to fully unveil
Cheers mate! Yeah it’s definitely going to get us out there researching again!
I have my green tea in hand and enjoying this content. If I find out anything on my tests, I'll jump on the discord. Thanks for all this information!
Excellent! Thanks mate 🙏
Fantastic first look into the new mining and thank you. Just what I need to get the ball rolling and get back into mining. Personally I start to enjoy mining less and less because of the abundance of quantum and the racing nature of rushing back and fourth because of time constraints. Ok for a run or two but I wanted more time in the field, more mining less traveling. Also enjoy the searching for the right rock so I think these changes are perfect for me. Good job on the video.
Good working putting this together in the 3.19 PTU.
The new mining game play has a lot to unpack
Cheers Aren! Thankfully many hands…or lasers… 😂
There is one simple reason I will always prefer the Prospector over the MOLE. SC really hates my mouse wheel for some reason lol. It doesn't matter how gentle I am with it, sometimes it will adjust the laser power by 1% at a time, and sometimes it will jump it by 15-50% at a time. I find that I do a lot better by setting the power about where I need it and then varying my distance from the rock I'm cracking for finer control of the charge level. That's something you just can't do in a MOLE even with a good and responsive dedicated pilot.
Great video and a real help for those like myself looking forward to sinking their teeth into Patch 3.19. Thanks for the upload you got my sub.
thanks for another great informative video.
I was waiting for this vid! I’ve not managed to try anything for myself in ptu yet
Thank you this is perfect. ❤
Thank you m8. Great vid.
about damn time you got this out..TY
😂 sorry I have a life
Great video dude!!!!
Well done !
Can't wait for the updated version :) thanks
Thank you please make more on minning it really helps.
Great Vid mate.
Can't wait for the update. Great video. I have no idea what lasers to run on my Mole.
Thanks LG!
going to be great looking for all the stuff to mine, while also making ship loads of auec from salvage as well
Nice! Cant wait for your updated guide!
Cheers mate 👍 Just needs a bit more testing!
Oh wow, the laser intensity meter got moved to the right side! With as delicate as some fragments are now, i really like this!
Not all hero's wear capes. Well done.
You may think this isn't a guide, but it is a guide. Thank you!
was all preflight ready for a nice flight on XP12, watched this and found my self on a moon mining.
I have watched all your mining vids, some many times. Thank you for this early look and the work you put into it. I just wish they would add a gadget that is a beacon, so you can mark for yourself or a friend the location of juicy rocks. Allow it to run for 1 hour or until the rock is gone. Maybe some day ;)
Thanks for the great vid, looking forward to seeing more on mining. Gonna miss the dull but profitable trips to the belt in my prospector hauling raw quant. Made 10's of millions doing that, got me a Carrack and so many other ships. Be interesting to see how all this develops in 3.19 and beyond, not sure whether to be excited or sad!
I think once we have enough time to fully understand the loop you’ll be back to earning (nearly) as much as a solo prospector. But with a lot more potential on the multiplayer side that makes grouping up worth doing.
Mining feels far more challenging, just from what you've covered. I'm excited that mining is no longer all quantanium. I guess I should save up for a Prospector.
Thank you very much for this breakdown. I took out my Prospector in 3.19.0 PTU for the first time last night. I tried a session with a stock Arbor and no modules or gadgets, just as a new miner might just starting out with a rental or newly purchased Prospector. I looked for rocks on Wala and in band 5 of the Aaron Halo. While I didn’t find anything I could crack on Wala in the short time that my impatience allowed me to scan, I filled my 32 SCU in the Halo with commodities valued for raw sale at Arc L1 at about 17K aUEC. I’ll know potential value tonight after my refining order is done, and I sell it at the best price locations. Disclaimer, although I mined some Quant in previous updates, I never went out looking for Quant exclusively, and always tended to just filling my bags with the most materials I could sell in the shortest amount of time. My whole philosophy is that EVERYTHING you mine, except inert, has value, and I couldn’t care less about “Maximum aUEC per hour.” I will be awaiting your subsequent vids with bated breath!
never thought i'd hear loudguns say 'skill issue', very good video
Harsh but true 😂 Git Gud
The problem is how often you get disconnected or catastrphically stuck or otherwise screwed... so I would never risk like an Hour on a run, because I would never complete half of them...
Watched this at work. pulling it up at home to drop a like on my account. good stuff. Cant wait for this patch as a poor ship hand.
Hello LoudGuns, I have grown hyper critical of youtube content creators of late. The reason is that so much "content" is really garbage wasting my time. I have even been giving thumbs down, and pulling my subscriptions. In this case, however, you get a thumbs up, the video saved to my SC folder, and this is the best mining I have seen. Very glad to have this video as a reference. I watched start to finish. Very well done. Thank you.
thanks - that makes me keen to try mining again :-)
Glad to hear it Stephen!
I'm looking forward to your mining guide.
Awesome video thx
Yeaaaaaaaaaah Nerds for the win!!! So looking forward to your next guide, when ever it's ready. I made Millions using your last one as the starting point for my good times. Cheers
Cheers Matt - just a bit longer in the oven I reckon!
Bruh I just got a mole when 3.18 dropped.. haven't really been able to use it since 3.18 was (and still is) fairly unstable and hard to play. Now I gotta relearn everything? T_T
Edit: Now that I have watched the video, this seems like a really good step in the right direction for mining. I hope this means the Orion is on the horizon though, I would love to have that big beast of a ship! :D
Well pretty much! It’s better though 😂
Sir, you are doing God's work. Thank you, your lordship!
These changes do sound really exciting! I really hope the meta does move towards non-explosive hauls as you mentioned. I agree, I think it would be awesome to go out on longer runs. I wonder if this would also facilitate the potential for scouting runs for multiplayer mining? Have someone out in a fast ship loaded with boxes to find big juicy rocks while a full MOLE crew handle the breaking the rocks and moving on to the next scouted location. I think that would be awesome fun!
Good stuff!
Cheers Sketto!
Rip Lancet, the king is dead, long live the king, lol. Though I think the Lancet will still have a place on a Mole but going need to get into the PTU and build up my mole to know for sure. Skipped most of 3.17 and all of 3.18 when I found out that they were planning this rework in 3.19 and it doesn't appear to have disappointed at all. For the build for a fully crewed Mole I want to try it is going to be Lancet (Focus III and XTR-XL), Arbor (Torrent III and Surge/Rieger-C3) and Klein (Torpid), negatives are cancelled out, got a way to bring forth more power, and an oh shit button in case someone falls asleep at the laser, or if they forget there's no zeroing out anymore. Happy mining!
I love that hadonite is, on paper, far and away the most valuable material to mine. Makes me feel like I'm not wasting my time with my ROC on Aberdeen.
I don't have time now to watch it all. Do ROC mining work again? No flying shards?
I must be psychic, just joined the discord and asked you when this was coming out!
Haha - well it’s not a guide, but it’s a WIP!
With 3.19 changes, I am sad because, I miss my quant timer. Also i kind of wish i never bought a prospector since a rental probably makes 50% to 80% of what a bought prospector will make.
I made a about 300 million an hour.... about 45 mins per trip and 180aUEC to 265aUEC per mission. That said it was good money and kept me all ways wanting to fill the refinery with jobs.
I have played one year and almost immediately updated my starter ship to a taurus and prospector to mine.
Thank you for the great guides.
Nice video, my load out consists of the Hofstede and a lifeline, with Okunis gadgets in ship storage. I was able to crack a 12k rock with this setup, but that may have due to the type of rock I was working on, Aluminum was the major portion of it. I forget how to spell that type rock. Yesterday I went mining and according to the prices, I was expecting 6.4 million, but what I got was 64k. I'm not sure if the terminals are calculating right, but more like my price expectations were wrong. Oh well.
17:00 the change to surge is to stop people from breaking big rocks regardless of what the mass is.
(if you can even move the bar. then you can keep it in the green if the surge got you to the green)
Pretty sure that’s what I said 👍
As my testing has come about I've noticed that the size 1 heads that had 3 consumable slots have been tuned to 2 slots. And two slot heads have been dumped to one slot. Size 2 heads have held the three slots that they had before.
Now the MASS system I've noticed have changed also. Since I've always been a Helix 1 head miner in the Prospector I decided to see how I could crack it up. I was doing 35000 mass gold and corundum rocks. Man I'll say that tight little go charge and the high overcharge line is a bit of a trick but it can be done with a little finese heating. But so far I haven't had sweet breaks most are mixed with inert intermixed.
Great video and lovely data you've all collected.
Really diggin this hunt for the new meta.
What's really gonna make the profession more interesting is swapping bags and mining missions.
No one knows for sure, but I have a feeling for missions that the common mats like copper and iron and quartz will be requested and the payout might be similar to finding a nice gold or bexalite deposit (hopefully).
I would personally love it if at max mining rep, the mining missions require a mix of of a few mats, like "We need x SCU of Copper, x SCU of Hephastanite, ect." with insane payouts for the difficult task that could take an hour or more.
What's even more exciting to me is the prospect of filling a C2 of empty mining bags and swapping in the field. Imagine taking 20 bags to the refinery in a single trip!
Yeah this is very much how I can see the contracts working when they develop. To begin with I think they could be like the salvage contracts - buying a hot spawn of x scu.
We tried out all the possibilities with saddle bags and unfortunately not a goer just yet - can’t sell or refine the bags out of a cargo ship 😢 But……soon.
If certain planetside terrain yields better rocks than other places, I imagine they will be easy to find, just look for all the Balista's and Nova tanks controlling the area.
Always been the stay out longer and get +80% pure bags of bex, hex Tari and Lari, what little of any other stuff I brought in was just tossed, it was enough to let me try new ships between patch wipes. Never touched quant, don't like clocks.
Never even thought to try doubling up modules, giving that a go, thanks.
Can't wait!
It’s probably the most refreshing set of changes I’ve seen in a while 👍
Loved your video! As someone who mines solo in a prospector, I'd really appreciate it if you could include some extensive info, because of its safety. Would really love to know what materials can be found there, what can be cracked and what not, optimal loadouts for halo exclusive mining and generally anything you could think of, catering to the solo mining experience in the halo. Thanks!
Optimum is good for laggy internet or if your mining and drinking( never drink and mine ).. But then again you can use gadgets too. Good vid as usual.👍
Also as a side note I found a granite rock of celin with 34% quant. it was only a straight to scoopable rock but might be worth checking out
im completely new to mining, i have a mole cuz i play with a buddy. i still debate wether or not i should get the mole or prospector, but i think mole is fine. i think this is gonna be a really nice update to finally get into mining.
Nice summary of the changes. My main qustion would be: Is mining with a rental prospector going to be a viable way to work your way up to buying your own? Right now renting a prospector feels mostly like a trap to me.
Especially when you go to rent one for three days and it charges you 980k!!
With the ability to detach and swap components now, you can place other mining heads with sub components on a rented Prospector. Although you might need to know someone with a Prospector to get the purchased alternatives off of since until Freight Elevators are added there isn't a way to easily move things into and out of inventories.
@@Tsudico also just the arbor laser can do a lot now. Should at least turn a tidy profit with that solo after rental costs.
Something that affects what they can do with laser heads, modules, etc. is server health. If the servers could be made stable, they could make the upper-tier components cost well above what they do now. This would give the low-mid components more of a purpose, seeing use while we grind creds for the pro-grade stuff.
Thank you for your time and for putting a great vid out.
the future for me is looking better as a solo miner as the need to get QT all the time just because your "Wasting time " with anything else as just changed to Mine all the other stuff without the worry of blowing up. just the dame Pirates to worry about LOL I also think once the salvage material is sorted its self out as in scraping different materials and munching then the need for different materials to repair. this then gives the mining the need to mine for the said mats and sell easier .
Also stops people getting Millions within a weeks game play and then what ?
I did save up for a MSR $5mil to do my refinery delivers.
I think I may like the way things are going moving away from just doing bounties and mining to salvage , mining , delivery with a bit of flying escort if needed or a gunner for someone on a big ship.
Looking forward to the NEW mining guide when 3.19 is out in the PU
i tryed mining after long time and first thing i did was take mole salvage mission and got my prospector bigger bags and then i had to get impact-1 laser and i have to say that after the new mining changes it was hard to find minable rocks for prospector and when you did it was still hard to brake those little rocks.
Was waiting for your video to give me an idea of what to expect. This is exactly what I wanted, both from you and from New mining. Was pulling my hair out mining nothing but quant. It's so incredibly boring to me. Can't wait to fill the mole up with gold and diamonds and make more than lunch and gas money
Ooooo! This means renting a prospector will actual be viable now!
May the guy at 22:17 rest in peace
Blood for the mining gods!
Precision is going to mean everything in SC
I'm not sure if it is intended or not, but I just put 4 of the Argo 12scu ore sacks onto my Prospector for a total of 48scu. I was able to fill them up and sell the ore at the refinery
When you make your tables, please can you indicate which direction is positive and which is negative? Saying -30% is all well and good, but saying which way you want it to go (in the header) will help those of us that are stoopid. ;)
Nice, informative video though. Thank you.
I've always liked the look of the impact laser. I'm glad I'm not going to be stuck with the boring looking lancet. 😆
On your permanent mods chart, Focus III doesn't show a stat in the Optimal Charge Window Size column, it's just a blank.
I can see a Klein-S1 with a Boremax working well for cheap or maybe I'd use an Impact-1 with a Rieger-C3, Focus III and a Sabir
Had a chance to try the new mining system in 3.19 PTU. It's more smooth due to server stability, wider gamaunt of mining opportunities but I have yet to find my mining specialization or niche.