Throne of Eldraine Set Review Part 2 || North 100 Ep81

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @spiralhaze2070
    @spiralhaze2070 5 лет назад +109

    Time for another episode of "The gang tries to convince serge to cut Hovermyr"

  • @alexashton6501
    @alexashton6501 5 лет назад +4

    I just wanna say, as someone who doesn't play Canadian Highlander, the set review episodes might be my favourite because they give multifaceted insight into the meta / format and it's a new take on interpreting the cards to how I do as an exclusively MTG:Arena player.

  • @JagannathMxO
    @JagannathMxO 5 лет назад +78

    Boy, I sure feel engaged by this podcast.

    • @jessehunter362
      @jessehunter362 5 лет назад

      I also feel engaged by this podcast, fellow nerd!

    • @ethan6287
      @ethan6287 5 лет назад

      Ive enjoyed this podcast.

    • @mewr11
      @mewr11 5 лет назад

      Ooh, engagement metrics? I'm in!

  • @C00kiesAplenty
    @C00kiesAplenty 5 лет назад +32

    The look on Jer's face when he realized that Faeburrow Elder went infinate with Najeela has made my day.
    Also they talked about robber of the rich in red aggro decks, but clearly it's best home is in rogue tribal

    • @aitoriri1
      @aitoriri1 5 лет назад

      41:06 just in case someone wants a shortcut

    • @C00kiesAplenty
      @C00kiesAplenty 5 лет назад +1

      @@aitoriri1
      Nah homie, its 41:16

    • @aitoriri1
      @aitoriri1 5 лет назад

      @@C00kiesAplenty thats more like "you see where i´m going?"

  • @cossin281
    @cossin281 5 лет назад +80

    Ben: “I like this card in the well-known archetype Yawgmoth’s jacuzzi, AKA Jacuzzi on commission.”
    Alex: “SORRY WHAT‽”

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon 5 лет назад +4

      There is an Un card called Urza's Hot Tub.

    • @Dataloss484
      @Dataloss484 5 лет назад

      I really want an explanation for this name

    • @cutecommie
      @cutecommie 5 лет назад +8

      Congrats for keeping the tradition of weird, nondescriptive names alive, canlander. Standard and modern have very regularized names, it's kinda boring.

  • @davidhearnden6095
    @davidhearnden6095 5 лет назад +44

    "the downside to eggs, is occasionally you die" - Ben Wheeler, circa 1:02:52

  • @FLAREdirector
    @FLAREdirector 5 лет назад +22

    Just now realizing that Wheeler appears to be wearing a shirt with his own face on it.

  • @kaijuemperor
    @kaijuemperor 5 лет назад +19

    I keep imagining Ben Wheeler is an alternate reality verision of Joey Wheeler who went on a different life path and played magic instead of yugioh, among other things.

  • @TheBlazingSilver
    @TheBlazingSilver 5 лет назад +8

    I think this is easily the funniest episode of North 100 yet, I genuinely laughed out loud so many times. Great episode folks!

  • @ECasThat
    @ECasThat 5 лет назад +16

    I am now engaged with this content. The wedding will be in years.

  • @Alyssa_Swift
    @Alyssa_Swift 5 лет назад +4

    You see, Ben, the typeline *does* indicate that the bear is the knight on Syr Faren. There is a human (the rider) and a knight (the bear).

  • @claytonnewlon3747
    @claytonnewlon3747 4 года назад +1

    Interesting point about the Royal Scions that I just realized: the second ability is probably supposed to be just Rowan’s- and so the color tie is just to red- and the first ability is just Will’s- with a color tie to blue. The ult is them working together, hence why we get drawing cards and dealing damage, a blue effect and a red one together

  • @saragon42
    @saragon42 5 лет назад +6

    To be quite honest-I enjoy your set review episodes most of all. Thanks guys.

  • @petemagnuson7357
    @petemagnuson7357 5 лет назад +15

    I'd like to make a petition for two each of Best Card You're Not Playing and Powerful Magic (Bwa Bwa BwaBwa) next episode.

    • @peacechan4500
      @peacechan4500 5 лет назад +3

      This

    • @Kaemdar
      @Kaemdar 5 лет назад +2

      yes the lack of powerful magic this week has left me feeling unfulfilled.

  • @sandmanlives3
    @sandmanlives3 5 лет назад +1

    I have heard a lot about red /green aggro on this podcast, but would love to see it played out on stream.
    Excellent episode as always. Happy to engage.

  • @bobmichaelsen2891
    @bobmichaelsen2891 5 лет назад +6

    Honestly, I would probably watch a podcast where, starting with alpha, you were to do set reviews for each set.
    (*faint maniacal laughter in background*)

  • @KirbytronicWouldLiketoBattle
    @KirbytronicWouldLiketoBattle 5 лет назад +4

    Ben, Serge will never cut Hovermyr as long as it annoys you.
    Because if he can't beat you, he's at least going to annoy you.

  • @BrackishBrit
    @BrackishBrit 5 лет назад +3

    I don't play Canlander. I still watch North 100 because you chaps are absolutely hilarious!

  • @morpheoMancer
    @morpheoMancer 5 лет назад +11

    The reaction to Questing Beast made me laugh so hard!

  • @ejgrgunner
    @ejgrgunner 5 лет назад +1

    I think the real sweetness with Robber of the Rich is T1 Goblin Guide into T2 Robber. You can stack the triggers to significantly increase the chances that you exile a spell.

  • @Velcera
    @Velcera 5 лет назад +15

    WE'VE GONE OVER THIS ALEX, IT HAS REACH BEECCCAUSSEE ITS ANN ARRCHER.

  • @StressHead95
    @StressHead95 5 лет назад +8

    Aha! Words to express my engagement with this content, how wonderful

  • @Starfury117
    @Starfury117 5 лет назад +1

    I am learning alot about Serge today.
    - Hover myr is life
    - best lands player in highlander
    - embercleave is colourless. Yep
    - reading is hard
    Loving it

  • @josephanderson8825
    @josephanderson8825 5 лет назад +3

    Claim the Firstborn still has some functionality outside of stealing your opponent's creatures, it can untap and give your own creatures haste. Big reason it's so good in standard aristocrats

  • @hobbesbeoulve
    @hobbesbeoulve 5 лет назад +1

    You guys should upload more content of you playing the format- I love hearing about it, but I'd love to see a lot of these thoughts in action!
    Ps. Big fan of the podcast, it's made my work days bearable this year

  • @IzzetTempo
    @IzzetTempo 3 года назад +2

    13:20 everyone's reaction to Wheeler's eat the rich joke is hilarious. I've never loved Stacey more than when he told me to get my fork ready

  • @treasureberry7154
    @treasureberry7154 5 лет назад +3

    "What?! HOVER MYR'S A 1/2." Thank you for existing wheeler

  • @thewonderdoc2999
    @thewonderdoc2999 5 лет назад +2

    Surprised at no mention of Redcap Melee. If as Goblins or RDW i can flame slash a courser or kalitas eot i dont much care that it costs me a land i think. Or even a relevant PW that could be an issue in the long run like Architect of thought with its constant debuffing

  • @NegativeGamerscore
    @NegativeGamerscore 5 лет назад

    They joke about Set Reviews for older sets at the end of the episode but tbh there are sets that I'd love a highlander retrospective on; talking about initial takes on cards, cards they may have missed the first time, or just storys of what are now format staples.

  • @Type_One___
    @Type_One___ 5 лет назад +1

    Great review as always, really pumped I opened the the Storybook alt Bonecrusher Giant at my prerelease. Its going right into Gruul Midrange

  • @lukeeisner9154
    @lukeeisner9154 5 лет назад +3

    Oh boy I love driving metrics and pushing numbers.

  • @tetelande_
    @tetelande_ 5 лет назад +3

    The best podcast this side of the multiverse

  • @mewr11
    @mewr11 5 лет назад +2

    So, I think the reason TRS has 2 plus abilities is that the first +1 is Will on his own, the second +1 is Rowan on her own, and the -8 is the two of them working together. Especially considering that looting is a historically blue effect, +2/+0, first strike, and trample are all historically red effects (although trample is either secondary or tertiary), and then draw 4 is blue and deal 4 is red.

    • @jon9828
      @jon9828 5 лет назад

      I mean first strike reads as a mostly white mechanic to me. Secondary in red perhaps. Trample reads mostly green but secondarily red, maybe.
      Of the two keywords it grants, both feel SECONDARY to the color they're meant to evoke (red). If it had been +2/+0 and either keyword on it's own I probably wouldn't have remarked on it but with BOTH it feels a little weird.
      Btw, my gut tells me first strike is more red than trample but I don't know. Just gut on that one. Could be that I don't feel like first strike is as white as trample is green. Trample is very green.

    • @mewr11
      @mewr11 5 лет назад

      @@jon9828 magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/mechanical-color-pie-2017-2017-06-05 The article is now two and a half years old, but this is what all of those statements were based on. First strike is primarily in RW, trample is primary G secondary R

    • @andrewsparkes8829
      @andrewsparkes8829 5 лет назад

      This does not make sense when a planeswalker has 2 pluses and is only representing one character though. If it's okay, in the where-flavor-meets-mechanics way, for two pluses to be given to one character, it doesn't need extra reasoning for two to be given to two characters combined. It can just be that way. Else they will always be tied - when they make dual planeswalker cards in the future - to making one ability represent one and another represent the other, and this will only ultimately stifle card design.

    • @mewr11
      @mewr11 5 лет назад +1

      @@andrewsparkes8829 I'm not saying it always has to be this way; just that it seems to be this way this time

  • @zacharyrichard3830
    @zacharyrichard3830 5 лет назад +3

    I love Alex's absolute befuddlement when Ben says "Yawgmoth's Jacuzzi".

  • @BorisTheIllithid
    @BorisTheIllithid 5 лет назад +1

    I'm a simple man. I see North 100, I click play. And like the video.

  • @cheezuschrist588
    @cheezuschrist588 4 года назад +1

    It's wild that 2019 has had three separate instances of the best Planeswalker printed

  • @maareek
    @maareek 5 лет назад

    Every episode is great, but dear god was this chock full of absolute belly laughs for me. The exchange between Ben and Jer about Embercleave broke me completely for about a minute.

  • @kyoken8691
    @kyoken8691 5 лет назад

    Robber of the rich is a robin hood inspired card. and Robin hood is known for his archery and archers in mtg have usually have reach. Also the enchantment outlaw's merriment generates tokens that are homage to members of the merry men. The 3/1 with trample is based on Little John, the 2/1 with lifelink is Friar Tuck, and the 1/2 with ping is Maid Marian.

  • @hermimonk2748
    @hermimonk2748 5 лет назад +1

    Great episode! I always love your discussion and varying takes. I feel bad about everyone picking on Serge though.

  • @nelspaulson3099
    @nelspaulson3099 5 лет назад

    Fires of invention- I feel like there might be something if A) you do something with your lands other than using them for mana. Animating them, etc.. B) a mana sink that nets you something, damage/token etc. c) I am thinking aether vial- cards that play/not cast.

  • @ExhaustedElox
    @ExhaustedElox 5 лет назад +9

    I like to engage with these engaging gentlemen.

  • @mewr11
    @mewr11 5 лет назад +1

    Okay, so some quick maths on Outlaws' Merriment vs Assemble the legion. With an unchecked AtL, you get t6 -> 1 dmg, t7 -> 3 dmg, t8 -> 6 dmg etc. With an unchecked OM, the math is a bit trickier, but the reader can verify the average OM token is 2 power and ETBs for 1/3 of a damage. Thus with an unchecked OM, you get t5 -> 2.3 dmg, t6 -> 4.3 dmg, t7 -> 6.3 dmg, t8 -> 8.3 dmg etc. After turn 8, OM gets you just over 21 damage on average, whereas AtL gets you 10 damage, however, that's factoring in your curve. Say you've got an Enduring Ideal and you're ready to win the game. Four turns of AtL gets you 20 damage, four turns of OM gets you (on average) 21 and change.
    EDIT: I should probably mention that five turns of AtL is where it finally outshines Outlaw's Merriment. Assemble the Legion's total damage grows cubicly, whereas Outlaws' Merriment's total damage grows quadraticly. If your opponent has 100 life and no board, AtL is better. If your opponent has 21 or less life and/or has a board, OM is almost certainly better.

  • @kierankane4294
    @kierankane4294 5 лет назад

    Man I love it how engaging this episode is.

  • @TheJackjackification
    @TheJackjackification 5 лет назад

    about the mystic santuary. one of my friend is building a pauper deck with 4 of that one and then the miracle burn spell just to buy it back...... thats presents about 40 damage for 8 cards in a blue/red burn deck AT COMMON.. :D

  • @parkerdixon-word6295
    @parkerdixon-word6295 5 лет назад

    No Lakelake Snake? Aww, I love Lochmere Serpent. I understand if it isn't good enough, I was just at least hoping for a "Yeah, doesn't quite make it."

  • @anemone3777
    @anemone3777 5 лет назад +1

    So you are selling Garruk a bit short and my boi doesn't deserve this for his triumphant return. The ability to flood the board with creatures whose death makes it actually easier for more of the same to show up in the future can close a game on its own. I give it an engaging/10.

  • @T1_True_Bob
    @T1_True_Bob 5 лет назад

    I know there is a lot of competition for this spot, but I am surprised Lochmare Serpent didn't warrant a mention. 6 cmc 7/7 with three relevant abilities seems not bad.

  • @Frosthief
    @Frosthief 5 лет назад

    43:40 I think you guys are underrating Garruk here. You describe a problem of literally any Planeswalker, and Garruk is more resilient than most. He ults the second a wolf dies.

  • @KirbySliver
    @KirbySliver 5 лет назад +3

    Is Improbable Alliance a card that we should be talking about? I thought it was very good.

  • @juanchetumare
    @juanchetumare 3 года назад

    It's funny to look back at these videos and hearing expressions like "nah, fires of invention is not that bad"

  • @cyclopsboi
    @cyclopsboi 5 лет назад +2

    did we not cover the give 7 mana ritual?

  • @TheBluemechanic
    @TheBluemechanic 5 лет назад +2

    Snakes get reach because they live in trees? Even if they're big stone snakes apparently?

  • @haydentaylor2101
    @haydentaylor2101 5 лет назад +1

    I've found the tier lists you guys have made to be very helpful when building my own decks, but one that keeps coming up is that your playing a bunch of wheels. For me, once you get past twister, echo of aeons, and wheel itself they get quite expensive or clunky, what wheels do you play after that?

  • @SpawnofHastur
    @SpawnofHastur 5 лет назад

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Kenrith. A 5/5 Hasty Trampler for 6 can be slow, sure, but the other upside.

  • @colaocha1115
    @colaocha1115 5 лет назад +1

    Where's Merchant of the Vale, Haggle is most likely highlander playable.
    Kenrith's transformation is interesting.

  • @fukes1465
    @fukes1465 5 лет назад +1

    Claim the firstborn can give your own creature haste

  • @simonteesdale9752
    @simonteesdale9752 5 лет назад

    I'm terrified of mystic sanctuary, but happy with Dwarven mine as I want to meme on people with polymorphs and the mine turns red fetches into a creature to polymorph.

  • @Mordalon
    @Mordalon 5 лет назад

    For the record, +2/+0, First Strike, and Trample are all things Red can grant. White can't grant Trample, and Green doesn't get First Strike, and while Green and White SOMETIMES pump power without toughness, Red does it far more often.
    I'm also surprised how many people I've seen miss what Robber of the Rich was referencing. While it doesn't have it prominently in the art, it does have a bow on its back. Also, not every Archer has Reach, White doesn't get Reach but they usually represent Archery by giving the creature a way to tap things, damage creatures in combat, or have first strike/double strike.

  • @bossgoji
    @bossgoji 5 лет назад

    Really wish we had a North 100 shirt that was just a WUBRG-gradient rainbow swoosh with ~ ANCIENT TOMB MANA ~ on it.

  • @ellaser93
    @ellaser93 5 лет назад

    As someone who generally plays mostly G/X mid-range and green stompy; I feel that Yorvo is missing one vital keyword... Trample. He desperately needs it!

  • @killerkonnat
    @killerkonnat 5 лет назад +2

    Castle Garenbrig only nets +1 mana... And fixes two generic into green. Paying 4 and tapping is equal to 5 mana to generate 6. This doesn't seem great. You already have access to at least 3 green pips to be able to even use the ability.

    • @Paranundrox
      @Paranundrox 5 лет назад

      At the same time, the opportunity cost is very low with just needing a Forest to enter untapped, so it's a small payoff for a smaller cost

    • @daredaemon8878
      @daredaemon8878 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah, the effect isn't amazing.
      But you cut a basic forest for this and your deck will be stronger for it. There's no real cost.

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon 5 лет назад +1

      There aren't a ton of Green lands that net you more than one mana, and there isn't much of a downside for playing it in place of a Forest.

  • @davqvist
    @davqvist 2 года назад

    Was funny rewatching these 2 episodes of this broken set

  • @moncala7787
    @moncala7787 5 лет назад +3

    No powerful magic? :(

  • @MrMielke
    @MrMielke 5 лет назад +2

    Robber of the Rich has reach because it reaches into people's pockets!

  • @Izandaia
    @Izandaia 5 лет назад

    I'm shocked y'all didn't talk about Torbran. Maybe I've fundamentally misunderstood something about what kinds of cards red decks want, but the amount of damage he'll consistently add to your turns seems insane.

    • @daredaemon8878
      @daredaemon8878 5 лет назад

      He's 4 mana, so for the decks that really care about the effect he costs too much. In this format anyway.

  • @insert_random_code4733
    @insert_random_code4733 5 лет назад +2

    Robber of the rich has reach because it reaches for other people’s stuff to steal.

  • @katien.1219
    @katien.1219 5 лет назад +1

    Staggeringly engaged here lads

  • @henryjones8636
    @henryjones8636 5 лет назад

    Can you guys please do an episode on the Lands archetype and if it's viable for Canlander?

  • @LeffeReberg
    @LeffeReberg 5 лет назад

    i can't believe you forgot about the 4 damage all star, flames of the bloodhand

  • @billabongboy811991
    @billabongboy811991 5 лет назад +1

    Serge still adorable
    Wheeler confirmed in the pocket of big ANCIENT TOMB MANA

  • @TheKK42
    @TheKK42 3 года назад +1

    Remember when Wheeler said Embercleave wasn't a good card?

  • @seanwatson1724
    @seanwatson1724 5 лет назад

    Having played with Garruk in limited, I can say with confidence that he does, in fact, close the game quickly. The fact that your opponent can't kill any of the wolves without turning on his ultimate is absurd.

    • @Spaced92
      @Spaced92 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah he's one of the fastest 6 mana planeswalkers there is that I've played with, and it should be immediately apparent.

  • @ThatSkiFreak
    @ThatSkiFreak 5 лет назад

    Please do a tier list episode!

  • @TheSilverGekko
    @TheSilverGekko 5 лет назад

    i sure do love engaging content, which this very much is!

  • @chesterra
    @chesterra 5 лет назад +2

    Is this where my engagement goes?

  • @DrHixPhD
    @DrHixPhD 5 лет назад +1

    Yeah, I'm looking forward to Eater of the Rich too, fellow [hmm probably don't want to risk offending the Corporations©]

  • @TheDnonymous
    @TheDnonymous 5 лет назад +3

    Wow this content is as engaging on this channel as it was on the other!

  • @nilshellbach2690
    @nilshellbach2690 5 лет назад +1

    Don't cut Hovermyr Serge!

  • @sittacarolinensis8448
    @sittacarolinensis8448 5 лет назад

    Faeburrow Elder pairs nicely with Freed From the Real.

  • @goodoldcountrylover
    @goodoldcountrylover 5 лет назад

    I'm quite sad that in order to fit it into two episodes, we had to cut Powerful Magic , and The Best Card you're not playing.

  • @KaneYork
    @KaneYork 5 лет назад

    Good review as always

  • @ufodynasty
    @ufodynasty 5 лет назад +1

    I enjoy watching the engaging content

  • @zacharymedeiros2713
    @zacharymedeiros2713 5 лет назад

    is oakhame adversary not strong enough cause itll cost 4 sometimes?

  • @Rogtilop
    @Rogtilop 5 лет назад

    Sadly ‘Bonecrusher Giant’ isn’t nuts against ‘True-name Nemesis’ because it is still an invalid target due to the protection. It is fine though as it allows a trade when they block one of your creatures with the true-name.

  • @alexanderjosefsson4729
    @alexanderjosefsson4729 5 лет назад

    Nice they like the some of the brawl cards

  • @notthepenguins5079
    @notthepenguins5079 5 лет назад +1

    Snakes are, of course, well-known for eating birds right out of the sky.

  • @isaiahforba7733
    @isaiahforba7733 5 лет назад

    Awesome Episode.

  • @camerondomer
    @camerondomer 5 лет назад

    I'm disappointed that you didn't cover seven dwarves. 😀 Still super engaging though.

  • @schonlingg.wunderbar2985
    @schonlingg.wunderbar2985 5 лет назад

    "Eater of the Rich" functional "Anarchist" reprint confirmed.

  • @theADHDGames
    @theADHDGames 5 лет назад

    1:08:02 rare footage of Serge Yeager actually angry. Engaging content as always

  • @vmah0111
    @vmah0111 5 лет назад

    wildborn preserver goes in "bear force one".

  • @NerdBallPodcast
    @NerdBallPodcast 5 лет назад +1

    13:20 for the epic Karl Marx reference

  • @clauderains1894
    @clauderains1894 5 лет назад

    What about Lochmere Serpent?

  • @Circular_Square
    @Circular_Square 5 лет назад

    Mmm that raw Golden egg was deliciously engaging.

  • @TheDnonymous
    @TheDnonymous 5 лет назад +1

    Hold on hold on. Why is Ben's shirt Ben?

    • @docbp87
      @docbp87 5 лет назад +1

      Yes he is Wheeler.

  • @joshbuchholz1658
    @joshbuchholz1658 5 лет назад

    You can still cast spells with Fires of Invention by paying their mana costs, the card just gives you the option not to.

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon 5 лет назад

      "you can cast no more than two spells each turn" the restriction is not tied to the free casting.

    • @joshbuchholz1658
      @joshbuchholz1658 5 лет назад

      @@Mordalon you're not wrong but im referring to how they were saying you couldnt spend mana on spells after playing it, which is incorrect

    • @Mordalon
      @Mordalon 5 лет назад

      @@joshbuchholz1658 I looked through that whole section and didn't hear them say that.

  • @bigwig8657
    @bigwig8657 4 года назад

    Rewatching since Throne became the most banned set ever. I sometimes forget about the "bad" cards from this set. Like Questing Beast is arguably not a top 10 card in this set. An on rate with 6 upsides.

  • @ChieftainKirk
    @ChieftainKirk 5 лет назад +1

    Did...someone say to...ENGAGE?!

  • @kierankane4294
    @kierankane4294 5 лет назад

    Flames of the Bloodhand gets no love?

  • @2MeatyOwlLegs
    @2MeatyOwlLegs 5 лет назад +1

    Hover myr is love hover myr is life