Feeding Our Celibate Racing Hens.. Grams, Ounces and Volume Explained
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- This video is a follow up to the video Feeding Our Celibate Hens. Maybe less than you think. After receiving many questions on how much we feed 30 racing hens, we decided to show the actual weight in both grams and ounces as well as volume. See Part One Below.
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Cool Frank i`ve noticed a big difference in my birds weight very buoyant just feeding once a day 18 birds 500 grms about a pound of wheat ! and once a week a racing mix.
Once you master the feeding racing becomes very easy.
Hi frank
First of all, after 3 years of trying to beat my friend who flies 6 miles shorter I finally beat him by 2 minutes. That’s 8 minutes in total.
I was using your system.
The confusing part is that I’ve seen couple of your videos that shows different way of feeding.
The system I used was 100% barley all week and Friday basketing I fed race mix and fats.
But I’ve noticed that Quintero has put a video up of your system with 80% barley and 20% race mix with 100% barley on rest days .
But after watching this your feeding depurative all week and race mix on basketing.
Last week I fed 80% barley and 20% race mix all week and 100% race mix and fats on basketing.
We raced 163 miles and velocity was 1396 , we don’t live on the racing line but fantastic results.
Congratulations on great results and you are now seeing the speed pigeons with proper body weight can fly. Fat pigeons are slow pigeons. Your system is close to what I do and will certainly work for short distance. Please email me and I will send you a very simple system to follow. You cannot make a mistake and many around the world dominate feeding like what I will email. Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com
Great information thanks for sharing you are very helpful for beginners as well as the experience fanciers
Happy you liked it. Please watch all my videos on Feeding so this all comes together. ruclips.net/video/Xvol6GUU5TE/видео.html
Frank thank you for this video!!!!! I can’t express how much I appreciate this. This will be watched by a lot of people for years!!!!
Please watch Master Feeding and you Master Racing Video and Long Distance Feeding video to see how I feed.
thanks FRANK for another information about your system for feeding...
Happy you like it.
Awesome Frank thanks for sharing , this feeding technique.
Thanks Frank. I were waiting for this one.
You're welcome
Hi frank thank you so much Ive been waiting for this content im sỗ surprised how you feed exactly your pigeons and it is so less than i expected sồ basically 670 grams divided by 30 pigeons one pigeon ate per day approximately 22grams yow i can’t believe this to much less than i expected by the way frank ive been using your sytem since i fallowed you on youtube i feed my pigeon like your way and it was like i can feel the voyant in pigeon how they fly every day thank you so much frank it work also for me like magic 🥂 cheers
Once you master feeding the racing game becomes easier. Many fanciers never have success and much of the time their pigeons are just too heavy to compete.
Once I started using 80/20 barley and depure mix during weekday my hens eat between 20-25 grams as well. Cocks eat a bit more, around 25-30 grams but I noticed they eat more minerals which is what Frank also mentioned as very important aspect of having healthy and good birds.
Very enlightening to see the actual amounts given here. I think the pickpot measurement (basically one per ten birds) gives a good simple baseline explanation. Unfortunately, I doubt if I can get access to the DePure, but it looks like I can come close to simulating it.
You can certainly mix your own and monitor the results. I feed fat seeds for the long distance races the day of shipping and sometimes the day before shipping.
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That pick pot measurement is really useful. 1 pot for every 10 hens.
Works great if you do not exercise or train much between races.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons yep, understood. When you say you don't work them much, did I hear right you do a 20 miler and 50 miler in the week?
Do they loft fly each day as well?
Everything is done with good pigeons and feeding. My birds do not loft at all, all season and train maybe 35 miles on Tuesday and 50 miles on Thursday.. Did you see my feeding video series? ruclips.net/p/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks Frank, I hadn't seen it in a series. Very useful thank you.
Great info frank
Hi Frank! Can you make a video of what you feed and how much you feed stock birds and breeder pigeons set. Thanks in advance.
Awesome 😮 info Frank …
Happy you enjoyed. I am having fun with the videos. Will have many coming this summer when my work slows down a little.
Great video. Any suggestions on a DIY mix to mix with the barley. I have access to most grains but not the commercial mix. Thanks again for the great videos.
Hey John, If you can get Safflower and add 20% safflower to the mix it will be a great feed. You can also use a combination of fat seeds for the 20% like some hemp, safflower, sunflower which is better than maize or milo or even peas.
Thank you Sir for this informative video how many times a day you fly them around the loft
Good Afternoon Mr Mclaughlin I have a race I am 19. 84 miles from the race point what could I feed with such a short race
Feed like this video for such short races. You will race like crazy. See my video series on feeding for an real education, ruclips.net/p/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt
Thank you
Happy you liked it.
Thanks for the video, really visual and helpfull. A little under 1 ounce per bird per day (0.83 oz). Do you do the same amount for the young birds in racing season?
I do feed young slightly more during racing. They are usually molting flight feathers. It is best to feed the young once a day until they start to leave a little barley.
Very helpful. Thank you for the video Frank. When do you start giving the young birds 80% barley before or the day you start training them ?
Hi Keti, My young are on maybe 30% barley during training and will go to 80% about a week before the races start.
Thank you Frank looking forward for your next video 😊.
Hope you like the video I did yesterday.
It was awesome 👏
I am feeding too much. 55 ybs feeding 2x daily. I haven’t started road training yet. Loft flying every day for 1-1/2 hrs.
Do not limit feed for young that are not racing. You can add maybe 30% barley to the feed now and more barley a week before racing starts. Feeding the young once a day all they can eat is best this time of year.
Thank you! I have only 10 hens, feeding them too much….
Watch my videos on Feeding. You must experiment and master feeding to be successful in this sport.
hi frank its ali from scotland , very interesting and you are right , congrats on your combine win , what area does your combine cover and how many birds were in the race ? i remember one of biggest mistakes i made all those years ago was overfeeding , it messes them up , . i am still trying to find good place to get started , it tough to find coz i cant buy , houses are to expensive , but i am working on ways to do it , i will get some where with big garden as i can , its been 35 years since i had pigeons , i really miss having them . good luck for rest of season , i think we having our first national race next week ,its not channel race ,by that i mean over channel from france which is 500 miles to here , this is races i prefer . though i was really happy to win from 360 miles at a fast velocity and that little chec hen 4 weeks later nearly won from 500 , we had a clock problem , it was given 160 th i think, never forget theses birds ,
Hello Ali, It will be fun when you find the right place to race. Maybe you partner with an existing fancier that does not have time to compete successfully. He may have everything set up. You are lucky to compete in such a competitive part of the world. Years ago I competed against 200 lofts and 3000 birds weekly so I could work on being the best. Now the numbers keep dropping and we may have 60 plus lofts and 600 to 800 birds. On may 507 mile win the members were fearing the headwinds and we only had four clubs ship around 440 birds and under 50 lofts. Sad to see this.
yes frank i am also very sad about this ,.i get information from a local very good fancier , i know there is big problem with losses and hawks, i think a lot of it is to do with money , small man cant compete with that , . i was in midlothian federation , sending 5000 to 8000 each week , when i had to give up , i was hearing lot guys saying they cant afford it . i heard they only sent 3or 400 hundred birds to a national race last year . yes i was thinking same thing about going into partnership , also there maybe someeone who really wants to start but doesnt have the time but has a big property , i have the time and i can build a loft any size no problem , i built many lofts when i was young, if i cant get a place this year ,i will look at other ways , ok take care
Hope you have some luck finding the right place.
Hi Frank
Great video once again 👍.
My question is if you drop a hen or a hen comes back later than expected do you keep the same amount of feed or do you not top off the feeding can you use.
Thanks Eddie
If I bird comes late I will feed the rich seeds for at least a day. I lock my hens out in the aviary each day. I can keep any late comers inside and feed the rich feed to help them recover without feeding the team the rich feed. Usually any tired or late pigeon will get one day of all the rich feed all the want before going back to this feeding system.
If you drop a hen do you keep the same topped off feed can or do you reduce it a little.
I will not worry if I am feeding close to 30 hens. If I go down to maybe 25 hens I will adjust and give slightly less.
Thank you for the information , it’s Really helpful for New fanciers I have a question so how much will it be per bird , like how much shall I feed per bird?
During the race season it is easier if you feed once a day until they leave a tiny amount of barley. You will know they had enough and also you cannot underfeed the birds.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you for replying but I still don’t know what’s the amount I should give the birds , currently I’m giving one tablespoon per bird I don’t know if it’s correct or not , because the bird I have are very thin in the chest area u can feel the bones instead of others I bought from someone where their chest are like full , is it muscles or fat ? How do I condition the birds perfectly ?
@@abdullaa7204 Can you measure the feed like I show in the video? I only train two days per week with no loft flying.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeonsyes okay I’ve understood thank you much for helping 👍 I appreciate it a lot
What time do you give the one time feeding sir?
I feed usually mid morning around 9:30 to 10am each day during the race season. Does not matter too much what time you feed.
Ok this is clear as cristal so one pick pot for ten birds
That is correct so you can measure the feed. Keep in mind my birds are only out of the loft maybe two times per week between races.
Thanks for the video someone told me that dupuritive is full of fat not true?
Not true. Depurative is low fat low protein.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you I appreciate the help
Mr frank I must saw your system works, now I'd add that I get your response regarding young birds in a old bird comment under master feeding and racing. My question is am 3 weeks away just started training how do recommend the training per week, given there on 30 percent barley
Hi Kevin, I suggest training only on the best days and give a day off if the young fly close to an hour. You are trying to educate them without taking too much out of them. Go slow and make sure you build a few rest days in each week. You can get more serious right close to the first race.
Thanks much appreciated 🙏
One grit pot per 10 birds per day.... Man have I been overfeeding 🙈🙉🙊
Hello. Are you feeding the same feed and amount for a 500 mile race? Thank you!!!
Hi Rico, Watch my Long distance Feeding Video. ruclips.net/video/Xvol6GUU5TE/видео.html
I feed this amount during the week and this past 507 mile race I gave the fat seeds the evening before shipping day and all the fat seeds they wanted the day of shipping. They were predicting headwinds. They went to the race nice and light but had the energy needed and were way in front.
Frank with the weather being so warm at the minute we're seeing a lot of bird being lost due to dehydration
What's your tips to prevent this
Hi Brian, That is a tough one. I suggest not to overfeed on an overnight race. I also suggest two small meals the day of shipping to encourage the pigeons to drink. It is also wise to teach the pigeons to drink on the truck. All trucks should water before liberation. It is worth having a basket like is used on the truck. You can teach your pigeons to eat and drink while in this basket. Setting up a very similar trough so the pigeons are comfortable eating and drinking while in this basket. You can put ten or so young at a time and feed and water in the basket for several days. They will be okay after that.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons fantastic result again for you at the weekend I see 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Here is the new video on that result: ruclips.net/video/4E-0ysZ8_jk/видео.html
Frank , is this 80% depurative and 20% super widowhood , sunday,monday,tuesday,Wednesday, Thursday & friday
For short distance I feed the Depurative all week including the day of shipping. They do not need heavy rich feed for short races.
What percentage every seed or flyer mix..
Here is a link to the Depure that I am feeding. Low protein low fat mix. www.versele-laga.com/en/de/plusicplus/products/plusic-depure
I started to use your feeding system yesterday & today. 70/30 1x feeding a day. They didn't eat everything. They left 45% of feeds. what will i do for them to consume everything?
my measurement is 22 grams per bird x 15birds = 330 grams is that right? thank you in advance!
No positive on the grams. Do you have an empty pickpot to use to measure? I use the Versele Laga Pick Pot. When you swap to the barley it will take a few days for them to become calorie restricted. In four days they will be eating like crazy.
Looks like .8 oz per bird . Also is not 80% barley 20% racing mix 😅.. depure only carry’s 24% barley….
I am feeding Depure. I have not been able to get quality Barley. Depure is 12% protein and 6% fat. Good feed between racing. I add fat seeds before shipping long distance races.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons what’s considered long distance??
I consider long distance over 300 miles. We fly 407 miles which is my first long race. We fly every other week 407, 507, 507 608 miles to end the season.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thank you 😊 for answering my questions
Good thing the old timers do not watch your videos lol thanks Frank
Hi frank, is that measurement also applicable to 80% of barley mix? Or that depurative is a barley mix?
That is the measurement for the race team celibate hens for depurative or the barley mix. Remember you cannot feed like this if you work the pigeons hard. My pigeons race, toss on Tuesday and toss on Thursday with no loft flying. They are out of the loft only three times per week. This season, many weeks they flew the race, had one 60 mile toss and raced again.
Thanks for that, correct me if im wrong if i use your system wrong. From now on im from philippines then the truck training start so i change my system to barley mix which is 80% of barley and 20% of racing mix from monday to saturday, but the days of training when they arrive i gave them 50%barley and 50% racing mix. But when its sunday which is long toss (the day of arrive) I gave them pure racing and other fat seed and minerals they want..
Did i use your system right?
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons ☝ btw my name is johan from philippines
Very nice and amazing video tips!🫡
Thanks so much!
do you loft fly your pigeons daily ? once a day or twice ?
I never loft fly the pigeons. One to two training tosses per week between races. Anyone that loft flies more than once a day is way over training. Check out this video.
ruclips.net/video/wYW1IAtxK_Q/видео.html
Hi im just starting up in racing pigeons and i will be doing the celibate with hen. About 20 hens do you feed 1oz per bird.
Email me Frank@McLaughlinLofts.com I will send you a feeding program that you can follow and not make a mistake. You will and fly like crazy.
Thank you from the UK.@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons
Hi mate can u plz tell us what is ur grain mix ?
Everything with mixes used are here: ruclips.net/p/PLfjpm1Kc9E0UkXcdnfTrnV_VKTkfNozbt
Hi frank. So in your celebate hen. Your not using 80% barley?
Following?
I have not been able to get good quality barley so I am feeding Depure. Both works just great.
I have not been able to get good quality barley so I am feeding Depure. Both works just great.
Hi there coach hope you good..
You are too nice!!
Hi Frank, do you loft fly the birds? As well as the training tosses?
I do not loft fly the birds. Loft flying takes too much time. They are only out of the loft two to three times per week during the race season and this includes the race.
Frank only feeding once per day?
Yes, I feed once a day. If you feed twice a day most likely you are over feeding the race team.
What time you feed birds in a day
I go to the lofts around 9:30 am and feed shortly after that. If they are on a training toss they may eat a bit later. They are not on a strict schedule and work around my schedule.
@@FrankMcLaughlinPigeons thanks a million Frank! ❤️
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