Real good to see you pop up bro, you are the reason i ride & purchased the KS18 XL, which i still ride 2ys now, 2750mls completed. So much fun.. Not so much riding now due to MET police crackdown.. Thks for the inspiration from a old man aged 62 (ERides)
Thanks for all the support everyone! Please share this video with everyone you know and lets get this video up on the map. Oh and the trolley is permanently broken lol.
The ride footage at the end is straight🔥. The quality of evX ride videos is cinema grade. If they ever do a 007, Mission Impossible or some other big action movie featuring EUCs they need to hire evX as an advisor or something.
Finally a reviewer who actually has enough common sense to understand that you push the wheel backwards with the trolly handle! AND he understands the 3 adjustments on the shock!? Thumbs up from me.
WOW. Fantastic video. I was like please be as real as possible on this. AND YOU DEFINITELY WERE. Despite all of the cons(which there are plenty where performance is concerned), the S20 does look great, fun and innovative as stated. That's intense Tishawn was in this. FIRE🔥🔥🔥
This is among my top favorite EUC videos ! Your production & music choices are alway top notch …but adding in one of the most inspiring guest riders from the NYC scene with the pulse of the Manhattan Night Lights and signatures hat & flow from TISHAWN …….this videos rankings soared ! 🙏🏽🔥💯
That's a great quality video right there. I wasn't able to really pin point what was so great about this wheel, but I think you've nailed it. It's just exciting and inspires me to try new things and go back to just having fun again. That shot at 13:25 ish, riding behind the s20 silhouette, slow mo, so epic. 👏👏👏.
Great Review and footage. Glad to hear more about the wheel being fun to ride vs just all specs and numbers. Still don't think i would get this one being in the city.. I am happy it exists, and hopefully more manufacturers will do things like for real smart BMS and take some chances on design.
Again, cinematography and esp your colour grading impressing in spades. So good! The wheel too... it literally nails my demographic and everything I'm looking for in a wheel. Can't wait to get mine in May!
Great video,I’m socked thought that you didn’t mention smart bms,kingsong did an amazing job there on safety measure,we now know exactly the state of the battery each time we check our mobile and that make us sleep good at night. I remember you had done a video about smart bms and now that they added to this wheel you make no mention at all. We need to push other manufacturers to add this feature to all new wheels.
I like the video, thank you. Really appreciate the reality of the break test. I am currently on day three of learning with an MCM4 , so i am brand new to this and very humble. i chose this wheel to learn on becaue it was small and cheap, it was less than $500 with shipping on eBay . I am looking at the S20 because of the look and the suspension being less fatigue on my 56 yo knees if and when i improve enough to move to a larger wheel. I also like the Sherman but the “like butter” expression most reviewers are mentioning have the s20 as my most attractive option. Thank you again from a middle aged kid!
I tried to do some crazy stuff on the RevRides S20 when it was in town.... nothing felt difficult on it. Going to need to redefine what "extreme" is when mine arrives.
I have awful streets and this wheel would be quite useful to me. I'm coming from a V10F right now. Congrats for the video. It's tremendous 👏 I also loved the participation of Tishawn and Marc Rebillet!
I definitely want a Sherman (or Sherman Max) and an Inmotion V12, but this wheel would be a very interesting choice. Something I would change would be the colours (to all black) and the headlights design if possible. It doesn't feel right where it is. But that's a minor issue. The speed is more than perfect for me. EUC riders shouldn't be asking for speeds higher than that, in my opinion. EUCs have different braking and are more radical than bikes and cars, but that's my vision. Thinking about public safety. Congratulations once again!
Tishawn have a way of throwing the euc from leg to leg....shyt is so fire. The first time I seen him do that was in Hsiang Sherman tear-down vid. This is very high level riding. Having the euc pushed out 👉 on one leg while counter balancing leaning your body 👈 is epic af.
Tishawn in the da house! Man, its been ages since i saw a video with him . Next wheel will probably a Sherman Max (from a Nikola+ as first wheel last year, thanks to you, Mickey) because i want the range for long trips, but i could see a updated S20 as a second "fun wheel" down the road.
Great review. 126v with a small capacity means it's a high speed oriented wheel. Not a torque wheel. For torque you don't need voltage as much as you need CURRENT which this wheel has no more of than an RS19 for example. Kingsong might also limit current in software to protect itself. Gotway/Begode does less of that and as such should outperform the s20 in acceleration/braking.
An excellent review there Mickey ... wonder what Tishawn didn't like about the wheel if anything at all? Poor braking in a city environment seems like a safety feature KS needs to fix.
Great video! Your production quality is always top notch. The S20 design, KS quality, cut off lever and great suspension system are what draws me to this wheel. The max speed of 45 mph far exceeds my usual riding style so that is a plus too. Range and plastic crash zones are a big NO for a $3,500 wheel. I will do a wait and see approach for now. It’s great to see Tishawne being one with the wheel again.
Your video production is so good, it makes me wonder if you do it for a living…oh, wait you do! Lol Great video, man! Can’t wait for my S20, I’m not perfect either.
I was really excited for this wheel. It was gonna be my off-roading complement to the V 11. But when I rode it I hated it. Too top-heavy, too wide and didn’t accelerate nearly as smooth as my V 11.
I feel like wheels are not like sneakers. Trying them out as opposed to putting them through their paces are different things. I just got an EXN and there were a lot of things I had to get right before I was able to start loving it. I can only imagine that's how it'll be if I get a third wheel. We get used to things and forget how much time it took to get to that point of comfort. I've ridden 200 miles on my EXN now and it felt like nothing but I still only feel 80% connected with it. I attribute that to limiting myself to on road riding and only go offroad when the ground is frozen. But come springtime I'll be able to really get on it. Then I'll be totally locked in. I guess I'm trying to say that this part of riding a new wheel can be frustrating or envigorating based on how you perceive it. I think spending over 3,000 bux on a wheel pressures it into being perfect. Otherwise it feels like a waste of money. Only getting to try out a preproduction wheel gives you very little time to assess the big issues. We'll have to see if the S20 gets ironed out and turns into another bulletproof option like, say the 16x. It could, however,, wind up like another S18 so it's better to wait and see. I feel like they could've had way better results with 100v 2700wh 2800w motor and all the chasis innovations they have on it. The wheel would be taller and jump Great and have solid 40 mile range on the worst day possible. I'm not sure if it would be lighter but I know it would get better range. Seems like they were trying to upgrade the S18 when they should've been trying to make a Sherman or an EXN with the S20 suspension, rim, and overall look.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot i’ve ridden the S-18 as well and really liked it. If they can make something that handles like the S 18, but has the speed and range of my V 11, I’ll be all over that. The interesting thing is how different sprung versus unsprung weight works with wheels vs cars. After trying a few other suspension wheels I’ve come to really love how much unsprung weight there is on my V11. On a car that would be bad. But on a wheel it serves to keep everything upright. The S 20 is way too top-heavy. Anytime I did a rigorous turn the thing would want to fall over….. but the S 18 handled pretty well
@@TheParentalRevolution it's cool the S18 rides nice. I meant to compare the ranges of both. I hear the S18 leaves more to be desired when it comes to range.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Exactly. But if they ever make a wheel with the handling of the S 18 and the range/reliability of the Inmotion V 11, I'll buy it for off road. For now I'm sticking to pavement and my good old V 11. Someone's gonna have to innovate pretty hard to pull me away from my V 11
Hey man, welcome back. You are the one I look up to the most as far as video production and story building in the euc community. The color grading during Tishawn's ride was incredible. As far as the s20 is concerned I'm totally in love with it and can't wait to spend more time on it. It's inspiring and feels like it's even more from the future than other eucs. 🤙
Damn that's one sexy wheel S20. Way too expensive for my pocket though. One things for sure is this one is gonna turn a lot more heads on the streets than other EUC's before.
As batteries go you need to up the voltage by 100% to get 50% more power. I'm not completely sure of the accuracy but it's close. 26v added to the baseline 100v we're used to doesn't add very much noticeable difference.
Inspiring video! I'll add this to the list of videos I share with people on the fence with getting into riding. It's all about being smooth and having fun. S20 is a wheel that can potentially catapult riding into the mainstream, even with the anime like aesthetic.
Have to agree with others, the cinematic quality of your videos is absolutely next level. I just love watching the footage. Guessing you would say Sherman Max over the S20 for someone who primary rides streets which are not too terrible? This would be a 3rd wheel, but my first 20 inch size. Does the suspension help take the edge off your knees for the occasional pothole/expansion joint?
@@evXNYC Thanks for that! Would you mind comparing the Sherman’s knobby tire to the one on the S20? Heard some guys suggest the S20 tire rolls off too abruptly on the sides…?
Oil chamber I think :-) Quality video as usual, good review. 126V needs high voltage MOSFET's. Higher voltage MOSFET's will potentially get hotter for a given current, current drawn can be potentially higher. Higher voltage can mean higher spikes (overheat, overcurrent, dV/dt, all well known MOSFET failure modes). You have to build your control board accordingly - not saying they didn't. For me suspension wheels are the way forward. The S20 looks the best so far. For me it would be a road wheel, at 63 my knees need the suspension, I have the S18 and love it, but faster and better sounds attractive.
@@rbtectur "Good for your knees" - A World of difference between riding wheels with, vs without, suspension. The difference between my S18 and my 16X tells me that. The 16X is still an excellent wheel though. If you are referring to acceleration tests, I'm not likely to be doing that :-) Low speed cut outs sounds bad, but the strain on the control board accelerating hard from a standstill is very high. These guys are doing the stuff I skip in deference to my skin, they are testing the limits, a buffer zone if you like to what I would be prepared to do. (They are all crazy by the why, especially those in NY)... just kidding we love you really.
@@Roskellan yes, I understand. But you're talking about the difference between the S18 and the 16x. But I was talking about the differences between the S18 and the s20. Evx talks about it, specifically. That's why I said to watch the vid again. Between those two you referred, I agree.
That's the way I look at it even at 49, if there's a suspension wheel I got to have it. While I'm sure it is awesome , I can't see spending $3,800 on a damn near 90 lb Sherman Max with no suspension. My 16x has been good to me for my riding Style, never cut out, but I respect the beeps and warnings especially at speed as I know that that is King songs version of telling me that I'm on the edge of overpowering the wheel. From what i see riding the s20 around the 25 mph mark you should be able to get 50-ish miles out of it I bet. I think the ones that are only getting 30 miles range out of this are riding 40 mph+ . Even with a knobby Tire in cold weather I'm still getting darn near 30 miles out of my 16x
@@noelleonard2498 yes. That's the reality in your world real life case scenario, where you can find a good spot within the range you need. However, there are situations, specially in the USA, where riders are used to travel long distances and need the range. Weight is mainly distributed by 2 reasons: batteries (for range), or suspension (for confort or off road capabilities). Both are responsible for the weight increase. The example you referred, the sherman, is all about range. There are many batteries, so there's weight. In case of the s20 as in the Master, the weight is about the same as the sherman because of the structure of the wheel, that has a suspension system to it. That adds weight. However, if you look to the batteries, they are about the 2200 to 2400 mah (on the examples given above). The only long range wheel with suspension is the ex2s, that keeps the over 3000 mah batteries while having suspension. I don't know the weight of that wheel, but I think it's a lot....
Hmmm Mosfets … I bought a V12 from your pals/collaborators at Inmotion after your much hyped v12 reviews - did not work out too well for me 🥺 - glad that you now pay attention to the MOSFET issue 😤
I was so excited for this wheel. It looks absolutely amazing, but it has so many issues. The flimsy plastic, the lights not durable, the seats velcro glue, the kill switch moves too easily, the screens just too far back, the kickstand is cheap plastic and the breaking is just too slow. It could have been an amazing wheel.
I was so hyped on this wheel until I heard your comments. Why do you have to be so honest? Now I’m gonna have to hold off on my preorder until they fixed the mosfet issue. This is gonna be the last wheel I’m gonna purchase and I want it to be close to perfect as much as possible because these things are not cheap. Kingsong should come up with a high torque version and a long range version so you don’t have to put that extra plastic on the pads if the battery is bigger. I understand they put a smaller battery so people can jump high on it which is hilarious because I thought this company is about safety and they want people to be jumping? If they are really listening to riders they should know that riders prefer longer range and only a few extreme riders use EUC for jumping.
For a pre production working prototype, still think the final S20 that reaches the market could be improved. I care way more about the breaking distance than acceleration at this point, is the one thing that could save your life.
@@evXNYC yeah no joke, cabbies alone drive like they own the road. But these EUC should have a brake disk for speeds above 30mph to reduce the stopping distance and then just go full regen, that's what electric cars do and seems to work. Also the tech already exists and shouldn't be hard to implement.
@@evXNYC , I guess the EUC is to new, given time politicians may victimize the citizens again, I hope not. Everyone be a considerate rider, don’t give them fuel to curtail the fun.
Great review! I definitely want to add a suspension wheel to join my EX.N HS and MTen3. I sold my 100V Nikola to make room for another wheel. I want to see how the Master is when it releases. The Master looks like an urban, high performance suspension wheel.
Once you go suspension you never go back. Or at least I didn’t anyway. Recently I went on a group ride where I got a chance to test out this Kingsong S 20, the Begode hero and the Kingsong S 18…… For street riding you can’t beat the V 11.
Great video EvX, but I'd love to know what kind of range you were getting with normal everyday riding (not riding slow on purpose to get as much range as possible)?
Heavy old tall learner here; just now got OK to barely do a couple miles on an IM v5f, but already clear I'm needing more. Any reason I can't jump straight up to the s20, even though I'll stay slow and minimal for several more months? Many thanks
If people want to talk about Mosfets tell us what you know, "I'm this engineer and I do work at building circutries or w/e" no word to mouth that it's a Mosfets problem. I don't know any euc youtuber that knows really something about what's going on when they use the term mosfets besides Marty but I haven't seen him talking about that. Besides that the video looked great
Too many people don't understand anything they're talking about. Increasing voltage has never increased torque, that's not how voltage works.... Also I firmly believe that the issues with low speed acceleration have nothing to do with mosfets, it is because low speed acceleration is handled by the Hall Effects Sensor and then transitions to sensorless control mode. I think with enough tuning they can iron out this transition to be barely noticeable.
Thank you! Going higher volts DOES NOT give you more torque. In fact, for the same battery space (number of cells) leveling up voltage hurts torque because it lowers the amps that can be delivered by sacrificing parallel group size for more series. This is, also, 100% the reason why the braking is so bad -- with few cells in the parallel groups (so you can have the high series counts) you absolutely tank the amount of regen amps you can push back into the pack, thus dramatically lowering how fast you can stop.
Dude you killed this!! Great job!! Thank you for having me!
Rocking that 1stBLK hoodie Appreciate you bro
This was a great production fellas. Gunna have to get me one! Much love from Oz
Real good to see you pop up bro, you are the reason i ride & purchased the KS18 XL, which i still ride 2ys now, 2750mls completed. So much fun..
Not so much riding now due to MET police crackdown.. Thks for the inspiration from a old man aged 62 (ERides)
@tishawn Fahie miss your videos bro
Oh shit. Ti making a feature! Missing seeing that dude doing his thing! 🦾😎
Thanks for all the support everyone! Please share this video with everyone you know and lets get this video up on the map. Oh and the trolley is permanently broken lol.
The ride footage at the end is straight🔥. The quality of evX ride videos is cinema grade. If they ever do a 007, Mission Impossible or some other big action movie featuring EUCs they need to hire evX as an advisor or something.
much love!
Ninebot Segway just signed a partnership with Hasbro , I bet the next Transformers movie has a PEV element to it.
@@Kekafuch oh wow that's cool
@@Kekafuch i know it does cause i was part of it.
They will have my directing the film, not just handing them good ideas lol.
You camera work and filming is f*cking awesome, you're the best!
Finally a reviewer who actually has enough common sense to understand that you push the wheel backwards with the trolly handle! AND he understands the 3 adjustments on the shock!? Thumbs up from me.
Much love
honest review, very insightful, and loved the feature of Tishawn Fahie. great production as usual, shout out to you and the team.
WOW. Fantastic video. I was like please be as real as possible on this. AND YOU DEFINITELY WERE. Despite all of the cons(which there are plenty where performance is concerned), the S20 does look great, fun and innovative as stated. That's intense Tishawn was in this. FIRE🔥🔥🔥
We genuinely appreciate the honest review. It gets old seeing all the same hype vids that show up on YT.
Holy shit this video was a blockbuster. And Tishawn! And Marc! Oscar gold 🥇🥇🥇
This is among my top favorite EUC videos ! Your production & music choices are alway top notch …but adding in one of the most inspiring guest riders from the NYC scene with the pulse of the Manhattan Night Lights and signatures hat & flow from TISHAWN …….this videos rankings soared ! 🙏🏽🔥💯
Best vídeo quality of the euc shows. Nice to see you back.
First one.. ‘TFUN’ is back 💪🏼🙌🏼🙏🏼
Just noticed you had Marc Rebillet in your video. Jesus Christ man!!! You got pull like that??? Marvelous Mick!!!!!!!
evX finally back with a high quality review - love it
That's a great quality video right there. I wasn't able to really pin point what was so great about this wheel, but I think you've nailed it. It's just exciting and inspires me to try new things and go back to just having fun again. That shot at 13:25 ish, riding behind the s20 silhouette, slow mo, so epic. 👏👏👏.
damn, that was some rad tishawn footy. what a throwback. We NEED more features from him. thanks for the vid!
Loved seeing you and Tishawn back at it! 👽🖖
Yes man - love to see Tishawn back. Great video
Honored to call him my friend!
@@evXNYC he’s the reason I got a wheel. Still the coolest thing I’ve ever seen 😂 seems a nice guy too
Is Tishawn still riding a Monster?
Great Review and footage. Glad to hear more about the wheel being fun to ride vs just all specs and numbers. Still don't think i would get this one being in the city.. I am happy it exists, and hopefully more manufacturers will do things like for real smart BMS and take some chances on design.
Top notch video as usual! Nice appearance from Tishawn! Loved the fedora hat intro!
Damn Kid. Tishawn??? You caught that EVX.. Lol.... GOOOD SHIT MY BRETHREN!! Totally did not expect that.
Again, cinematography and esp your colour grading impressing in spades. So good! The wheel too... it literally nails my demographic and everything I'm looking for in a wheel. Can't wait to get mine in May!
Great video,I’m socked thought that you didn’t mention smart bms,kingsong did an amazing job there on safety measure,we now know exactly the state of the battery each time we check our mobile and that make us sleep good at night.
I remember you had done a video about smart bms and now that they added to this wheel you make no mention at all.
We need to push other manufacturers to add this feature to all new wheels.
i hear ya, but I gotta pick and choose. You knew about the BMS, so it shows its not unkown which is great!
I like the video, thank you. Really appreciate the reality of the break test. I am currently on day three of learning with an MCM4 , so i am brand new to this and very humble. i chose this wheel to learn on becaue it was small and cheap, it was less than $500 with shipping on eBay . I am looking at the S20 because of the look and the suspension being less fatigue on my 56 yo knees if and when i improve enough to move to a larger wheel. I also like the Sherman but the “like butter” expression most reviewers are mentioning have the s20 as my most attractive option. Thank you again from a middle aged kid!
I tried to do some crazy stuff on the RevRides S20 when it was in town.... nothing felt difficult on it. Going to need to redefine what "extreme" is when mine arrives.
I have awful streets and this wheel would be quite useful to me. I'm coming from a V10F right now. Congrats for the video. It's tremendous 👏 I also loved the participation of Tishawn and Marc Rebillet!
One of the best S20 reviews so far, and awesome footage! Thanks 😊
I want my second wheel to beat my sherman on all specs plus have suspension!!! 💪 Great job on the vid.
I definitely want a Sherman (or Sherman Max) and an Inmotion V12, but this wheel would be a very interesting choice. Something I would change would be the colours (to all black) and the headlights design if possible. It doesn't feel right where it is. But that's a minor issue. The speed is more than perfect for me. EUC riders shouldn't be asking for speeds higher than that, in my opinion. EUCs have different braking and are more radical than bikes and cars, but that's my vision. Thinking about public safety.
Congratulations once again!
Tishawn have a way of throwing the euc from leg to leg....shyt is so fire. The first time I seen him do that was in Hsiang Sherman tear-down vid. This is very high level riding. Having the euc pushed out 👉 on one leg while counter balancing leaning your body 👈 is epic af.
EVX - proving, once again, to be the KING of Electric Vehicle video reviews. Amazing work as always.
Thx
Tishawn in the da house! Man, its been ages since i saw a video with him . Next wheel will probably a Sherman Max (from a Nikola+ as first wheel last year, thanks to you, Mickey) because i want the range for long trips, but i could see a updated S20 as a second "fun wheel" down the road.
Great video as always, agree with the points following my ride on the s20. Great to see Tshawn riding!
Great review. 126v with a small capacity means it's a high speed oriented wheel. Not a torque wheel. For torque you don't need voltage as much as you need CURRENT which this wheel has no more of than an RS19 for example. Kingsong might also limit current in software to protect itself. Gotway/Begode does less of that and as such should outperform the s20 in acceleration/braking.
I love over engineered. ❤️. Ever seen a 747 land one one tyre in a cross wind? Engineer for the extreme, not the everyday use 😍
An excellent review there Mickey ... wonder what Tishawn didn't like about the wheel if anything at all? Poor braking in a city environment seems like a safety feature KS needs to fix.
Tishawn and EVX, instant classic!🚀
Great video! Your production quality is always top notch. The S20 design, KS quality, cut off lever and great suspension system are what draws me to this wheel. The max speed of 45 mph far exceeds my usual riding style so that is a plus too. Range and plastic crash zones are a big NO for a $3,500 wheel. I will do a wait and see approach for now. It’s great to see Tishawne being one with the wheel again.
Thanks Adam!
I knew evX would be back!
Excellent video! Very entertaining and informative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
EVX IS BACK 🤘💪🤙
Your video production is so good, it makes me wonder if you do it for a living…oh, wait you do! Lol
Great video, man! Can’t wait for my S20, I’m not perfect either.
I just friggin love your videos mate.... Ill wait for the Inmotion V13.prob more innovative and better braking ....
13:19 what a shot, so cinematic I love it
I was really excited for this wheel. It was gonna be my off-roading complement to the V 11. But when I rode it I hated it.
Too top-heavy, too wide and didn’t accelerate nearly as smooth as my V 11.
I feel like wheels are not like sneakers. Trying them out as opposed to putting them through their paces are different things. I just got an EXN and there were a lot of things I had to get right before I was able to start loving it. I can only imagine that's how it'll be if I get a third wheel. We get used to things and forget how much time it took to get to that point of comfort. I've ridden 200 miles on my EXN now and it felt like nothing but I still only feel 80% connected with it. I attribute that to limiting myself to on road riding and only go offroad when the ground is frozen. But come springtime I'll be able to really get on it. Then I'll be totally locked in.
I guess I'm trying to say that this part of riding a new wheel can be frustrating or envigorating based on how you perceive it. I think spending over 3,000 bux on a wheel pressures it into being perfect. Otherwise it feels like a waste of money. Only getting to try out a preproduction wheel gives you very little time to assess the big issues. We'll have to see if the S20 gets ironed out and turns into another bulletproof option like, say the 16x. It could, however,, wind up like another S18 so it's better to wait and see. I feel like they could've had way better results with 100v 2700wh 2800w motor and all the chasis innovations they have on it. The wheel would be taller and jump Great and have solid 40 mile range on the worst day possible. I'm not sure if it would be lighter but I know it would get better range. Seems like they were trying to upgrade the S18 when they should've been trying to make a Sherman or an EXN with the S20 suspension, rim, and overall look.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot i’ve ridden the S-18 as well and really liked it. If they can make something that handles like the S 18, but has the speed and range of my V 11, I’ll be all over that.
The interesting thing is how different sprung versus unsprung weight works with wheels vs cars. After trying a few other suspension wheels I’ve come to really love how much unsprung weight there is on my V11. On a car that would be bad. But on a wheel it serves to keep everything upright. The S 20 is way too top-heavy. Anytime I did a rigorous turn the thing would want to fall over….. but the S 18 handled pretty well
@@TheParentalRevolution it's cool the S18 rides nice. I meant to compare the ranges of both. I hear the S18 leaves more to be desired when it comes to range.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Exactly. But if they ever make a wheel with the handling of the S 18 and the range/reliability of the Inmotion V 11, I'll buy it for off road.
For now I'm sticking to pavement and my good old V 11. Someone's gonna have to innovate pretty hard to pull me away from my V 11
Yeah Mickey, thanks for the insight. Bummer about the braking, but the wheel looks great for the west coast.
Wow dude, quality of content is superb! Its entertaining to watch. Please do more.
Tishawn! Exponentially inspired. And the shot at 13:20 is an all time EUC classic.
Hot damn that Tishawn cameo.
Love your filming and edits 🙌👌✨
Omg Marc Rebillet! So glad he is out riding again.
epic cinematography and great insights into the future
I never realized that it was Grand Central from I Am Sam until watching this 😅
Hey man, welcome back. You are the one I look up to the most as far as video production and story building in the euc community. The color grading during Tishawn's ride was incredible.
As far as the s20 is concerned I'm totally in love with it and can't wait to spend more time on it. It's inspiring and feels like it's even more from the future than other eucs.
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Damn that's one sexy wheel S20. Way too expensive for my pocket though. One things for sure is this one is gonna turn a lot more heads on the streets than other EUC's before.
The only thing I need now is for evx to finally release the grumpy-cat profile footage from the archives. 🙏
KingSong brought a lot of new things to the table yet again :) impressive engineering.
As batteries go you need to up the voltage by 100% to get 50% more power. I'm not completely sure of the accuracy but it's close. 26v added to the baseline 100v we're used to doesn't add very much noticeable difference.
Inspiring video! I'll add this to the list of videos I share with people on the fence with getting into riding. It's all about being smooth and having fun. S20 is a wheel that can potentially catapult riding into the mainstream, even with the anime like aesthetic.
Great visuals !! Thanks for the honest take on the wheel. Also great to see tishawn in a video again.
Very fair & informative! Great vid Mickey
So good, great run down. !
Have to agree with others, the cinematic quality of your videos is absolutely next level. I just love watching the footage.
Guessing you would say Sherman Max over the S20 for someone who primary rides streets which are not too terrible? This would be a 3rd wheel, but my first 20 inch size. Does the suspension help take the edge off your knees for the occasional pothole/expansion joint?
Suspension helps on your knees yes. But Sherman max is a fine option. I personally own the Sherman regular.
@@evXNYC Thanks for that! Would you mind comparing the Sherman’s knobby tire to the one on the S20? Heard some guys suggest the S20 tire rolls off too abruptly on the sides…?
Yea the tire on the s20 is dumb. I don’t recommend it. It’s like the tread just ends and there’s no roll off like the Sherman knobby.
Welcome back man, it's been a long time
that handle part was funny asf😂😂😂
your content is on another level bro
Your edits are crazy good best quality of all euc channels 🔥🔥🔥
Thx, I’m but a humble amateur trying to get better with every video.
Oil chamber I think :-) Quality video as usual, good review. 126V needs high voltage MOSFET's. Higher voltage MOSFET's will potentially get hotter for a given current, current drawn can be potentially higher. Higher voltage can mean higher spikes (overheat, overcurrent, dV/dt, all well known MOSFET failure modes). You have to build your control board accordingly - not saying they didn't. For me suspension wheels are the way forward. The S20 looks the best so far. For me it would be a road wheel, at 63 my knees need the suspension, I have the S18 and love it, but faster and better sounds attractive.
Don't think the s20 is good for your knees. Watch the video again....
@@rbtectur "Good for your knees" - A World of difference between riding wheels with, vs without, suspension. The difference between my S18 and my 16X tells me that. The 16X is still an excellent wheel though. If you are referring to acceleration tests, I'm not likely to be doing that :-) Low speed cut outs sounds bad, but the strain on the control board accelerating hard from a standstill is very high. These guys are doing the stuff I skip in deference to my skin, they are testing the limits, a buffer zone if you like to what I would be prepared to do. (They are all crazy by the why, especially those in NY)... just kidding we love you really.
@@Roskellan yes, I understand. But you're talking about the difference between the S18 and the 16x.
But I was talking about the differences between the S18 and the s20. Evx talks about it, specifically. That's why I said to watch the vid again.
Between those two you referred, I agree.
That's the way I look at it even at 49, if there's a suspension wheel I got to have it. While I'm sure it is awesome , I can't see spending $3,800 on a damn near 90 lb Sherman Max with no suspension. My 16x has been good to me for my riding Style, never cut out, but I respect the beeps and warnings especially at speed as I know that that is King songs version of telling me that I'm on the edge of overpowering the wheel. From what i see riding the s20 around the 25 mph mark you should be able to get 50-ish miles out of it I bet. I think the ones that are only getting 30 miles range out of this are riding 40 mph+ . Even with a knobby Tire in cold weather I'm still getting darn near 30 miles out of my 16x
@@noelleonard2498 yes. That's the reality in your world real life case scenario, where you can find a good spot within the range you need.
However, there are situations, specially in the USA, where riders are used to travel long distances and need the range.
Weight is mainly distributed by 2 reasons: batteries (for range), or suspension (for confort or off road capabilities). Both are responsible for the weight increase. The example you referred, the sherman, is all about range. There are many batteries, so there's weight.
In case of the s20 as in the Master, the weight is about the same as the sherman because of the structure of the wheel, that has a suspension system to it. That adds weight. However, if you look to the batteries, they are about the 2200 to 2400 mah (on the examples given above).
The only long range wheel with suspension is the ex2s, that keeps the over 3000 mah batteries while having suspension. I don't know the weight of that wheel, but I think it's a lot....
Hmmm Mosfets … I bought a V12 from your pals/collaborators at Inmotion after your much hyped v12 reviews - did not work out too well for me 🥺 - glad that you now pay attention to the MOSFET issue 😤
Sadly “mosfet-gate” was terrible. But thankfully batch 3 will be fixed. V12 is still a wheel i use 3 days a week!!
@@evXNYC Thanks for response - I do love your vids and appreciate your commitment to EUC community
I was so excited for this wheel. It looks absolutely amazing, but it has so many issues. The flimsy plastic, the lights not durable, the seats velcro glue, the kill switch moves too easily, the screens just too far back, the kickstand is cheap plastic and the breaking is just too slow.
It could have been an amazing wheel.
I was so hyped on this wheel until I heard your comments. Why do you have to be so honest? Now I’m gonna have to hold off on my preorder until they fixed the mosfet issue. This is gonna be the last wheel I’m gonna purchase and I want it to be close to perfect as much as possible because these things are not cheap. Kingsong should come up with a high torque version and a long range version so you don’t have to put that extra plastic on the pads if the battery is bigger. I understand they put a smaller battery so people can jump high on it which is hilarious because I thought this company is about safety and they want people to be jumping? If they are really listening to riders they should know that riders prefer longer range and only a few extreme riders use EUC for jumping.
Can you verify the MOSFETs that are in the controller? Is it the TO-247 as indicated on the KS S20 spec sheet?
For a pre production working prototype, still think the final S20 that reaches the market could be improved. I care way more about the breaking distance than acceleration at this point, is the one thing that could save your life.
I always focus on braking distance. It’s life or death here in NYC.
@@evXNYC yeah no joke, cabbies alone drive like they own the road. But these EUC should have a brake disk for speeds above 30mph to reduce the stopping distance and then just go full regen, that's what electric cars do and seems to work. Also the tech already exists and shouldn't be hard to implement.
Hey. Good video!!! Awesome knee quards. How it? Do u like it?
awesome review man🤙
Amazing! You’re riding through Manhattan in an electric unicycle , EUC. I’m jazzed! Did the police ever give you any problems?
Nah the police don’t care about us.
@@evXNYC , I guess the EUC is to new, given time politicians may victimize the citizens again, I hope not.
Everyone be a considerate rider, don’t give them fuel to curtail the fun.
WELCOME BACK DUDE!!!
Great review! I definitely want to add a suspension wheel to join my EX.N HS and MTen3. I sold my 100V Nikola to make room for another wheel. I want to see how the Master is when it releases. The Master looks like an urban, high performance suspension wheel.
Once you go suspension you never go back. Or at least I didn’t anyway.
Recently I went on a group ride where I got a chance to test out this Kingsong S 20, the Begode hero and the Kingsong S 18…… For street riding you can’t beat the V 11.
Great review bro, looks like an interesting wheel. Stay safe bro.
Thanks Clyde!
Woohoo Mikey’s review ! Finally… lol
Great video EvX, but I'd love to know what kind of range you were getting with normal everyday riding (not riding slow on purpose to get as much range as possible)?
I listed the realistic range at the start. That’s what i was getting
Heavy old tall learner here; just now got OK to barely do a couple miles on an IM v5f, but already clear I'm needing more. Any reason I can't jump straight up to the s20, even though I'll stay slow and minimal for several more months?
Many thanks
None other than the production has now been delayed due to the virus in China
Great vid dude!
Really looking forward to a lighter, second-gen S18!
Any chance you’re going to do the water-cup-taped-to-hand suspension test?
If people want to talk about Mosfets tell us what you know, "I'm this engineer and I do work at building circutries or w/e" no word to mouth that it's a Mosfets problem. I don't know any euc youtuber that knows really something about what's going on when they use the term mosfets besides Marty but I haven't seen him talking about that.
Besides that the video looked great
13:29. Best shot!
If anything, it’s under engineered and over designed. If they get the multiple design and engineering problems fixed they’ll have an awesome wheel.
This was fire 🔥
Miss you man!!
@@evXNYC miss u 2 man ill be back on the scene soon
Fedora!!!!!!
Yep!!
Dope video
Tiashawn great to see u please helmet..
Good job... for me .. I wont be buying this wheel but it is the best designed wheel lookswise, on the market.
Can they make all Ewheels water resistant?
Great video bruh!
Thx
wheel:...hm...we will see...video: untouchable...
How long are the cranks?
new wheel on the market and no gear, very smart :)
Yeah ripping through New York traffic on a pre-production wheel with absolutely no safety gear. Very ignorant
Ultra cool device
Too many people don't understand anything they're talking about. Increasing voltage has never increased torque, that's not how voltage works.... Also I firmly believe that the issues with low speed acceleration have nothing to do with mosfets, it is because low speed acceleration is handled by the Hall Effects Sensor and then transitions to sensorless control mode. I think with enough tuning they can iron out this transition to be barely noticeable.
Thank you! Going higher volts DOES NOT give you more torque. In fact, for the same battery space (number of cells) leveling up voltage hurts torque because it lowers the amps that can be delivered by sacrificing parallel group size for more series.
This is, also, 100% the reason why the braking is so bad -- with few cells in the parallel groups (so you can have the high series counts) you absolutely tank the amount of regen amps you can push back into the pack, thus dramatically lowering how fast you can stop.
Thanks for the love and support! 😍
Thanks for the love and support! 😍
I don't know where everyone's getting this fraudulent information about this wheel not using a hall effect sensor.
It is very concerning when it comes to braking, can KS modify the firmware to compensate ? this is about safety !!