REVEALED: SHOCKING Purpose Behind Israel's 'Free' Birthright Trips
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- James Li breaks down the shocking purpose behind Israel's 'free' birthright trips.
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I went to Israel in 1992 on one of the Ulpan programs (before I was adequately informed about the settler-colonialist project there), and some of the field trips they took us on were clearly pro-settler/anti-Palestinian propaganda. I was alert enough to see the bias in these things. I have never been back there since and will not go back until Palestinians are free.
And nobody cares….
@@lgroots8691 cope. It's being freed as we speak loser
@lgroots8691 people like you are the animals. And yes, billions niw know the truth and do care. Zionesm is dead.
it's just sad that many people can't see that 😢
@@lgroots8691Many people DO care.
That these people are entitled with a ‘birthright’ while the natives are exterminated and expelled to make room for them is just obscene and amoral
Thou shalt not steal or lie. Every religious person knows this. Zionism has nothing to do with religion, it's just another word for colonialism.
@@ellengran6814
it's with the religion that calls them "the chosen race"......that's why they feel entitled to land that isnt theirs and see others as somehow less than human.
natives isn't the right word
Like it or not, Israel is the indigenous home of the Jewish people.
@@ponyguy99 Why is it illegal to have a DNA test done in Israel? These so called Jews in Israel are polish, Russians, Ukrainians, Europeans from the caucus mountains who have no rights to Palestinian lands.
I always found it so disgusting that we pretend as if Israel doing these cute little 'birthright trips' to complete foreigners of that land, yet having an extremely strict policy of *zero right of return* for any Palestinian expelled since the 1948 Nakba was somehow normal, acceptable, and not at all absolutely atrocious. 😒
It’s worse, under the three generational anyone palestinian who has a house that they inherited automatically loses it and it goes to the hands of the Israeli state if they’re in the wrong part of Jerusalem and if there’s a third generation.
" Right to return" to where your great grandmother slums where sewer was running on the streets? Or slums where a bathroom is a hole in the ground and shower a cold water hose? Are Gaza millionairs, billionairs will exchsnge luxery for stinky places. NO.
So stupid.
Um Israel is a Jewish state. Why would Arabs who tried to genocide the Jews be allowed to visit? Israeli Jews are banned from Iraq, Iran, Syria etc even though their ancestors were evicted from these lands.
And then these Arabs move to the West to tell us how evil the Jews are.
It might be disgusting but if you look at places abroad there is increasing problems from multi culture.
Even with this draconian policy we see currently a civil war between Jews and Muslims who won’t live in peace.
Exactly 💯
I am an Ashkenazi jew by my mom with a Christian dad. These birth right trips is to encourage jews to move there and multiply and replace the arabs. My mom tried to get me to go. Been pro Palestinian since I was a young teen and ended up marrying an arab Muslim she disowned me.
Wow. The stories you must have.
Based
forgive your mother, she has no chance against that mafia that are controlling israel and with propaganda with psychology the machine over years and years, very few can stand, please think about it.
@@stooney I suspect you meant "biased", but Lisa's comment was in fact "based" on a lifetime of real experience.
Bless you for this comment, Lisa. There are so many stories of people transcending the "toxic boxes" they are expected or even forced to inhabit. People like you, Katherine and Simone Zimmerman are such precious witnesses to the possibility of communion, mercy and justice.
Bless your whole "Abrahamic" family, and all who realize that Jews, Christians and Muslims are brothers and sisters.
*_Imagine the crimes they've gotten away with before the internet._*
All of which you can discover for yourself if you read a few books. Trust me Hamas have nothing on the Jewish militia.
@@Dickie2702 can you recommend some using emojis or charades 🤣 bc they’ll delete your comment. You can also put spaces & periods between letters but depending on the books, they still might delete it and it’ll probably definitely be hidden/shadowbanned. 🫠
@Dickie2702 You think that when it comes to information dissemination, books are comparable to the internet? Hamas did a terrible thing, terrorism is unacceptable agreed.
Look, there is a reason they target teenagers to go. Back in the 90s, I was subject to all the ads and everything, but I was less wealthy than the other families at the synagogue and my mother isn't Jewish. I already didn't feel a strong connection to Israel and thought the language surrounding zionism was a lil strange. "Birthright" wasn't a word that made a lot of sense to me. I was a Jewish AMERICAN. Had I been a lil more religious, a lil more right wing, or had I faced a lil more alienation growing up, I might have been fooled. Teenagers had absolutely no clue back then before the second intifada when this trip started
@anonymous36247 I appreciate your experience. I'm from Puerto Rico, grew up in a christian home. To me it was so odd how special jewish people are and how god protects Israel from all the demons and bad people who want to destroy it.
Offended by everything ashamed of nothing - Israel in a nutshell -
Very well said!
Why would we be ashamed? Don't like it, don't come
@@snoopcelev1590 you should be ashamed for stealing another peoples land. If you weren’t born there that not your land!
The Karen of countries.
@@snoopcelev1590 then you are worse then the nazis'
the Nazi's were atleast ashamed of what they were doing to the jewish people, many even tried to make a difference.
you however? you actively cheer and celebrate youre degeneracy.
I never knew about birthright when I was the age to go. But maybe 10 years ago, after I was already educated enough to be pro-Palestine, I met another Jew who was pro-Palestine and I asked her how she figured out that what we were taught was lies.
She said she went on birthright and they took them on a tour bus to a settlement in the West Bank. At some point in the trip they told everyone to close their curtains because they were almost there and didn't want to ruin the surprise. But she was suspicious and peeked out the curtain, only to see Palestinians being held up at a checkpoint. And that's when she realized something wasn't right.
Unfortunately my younger siblings went on birthright and had no such suspicions, only got further brainwashed. I guess the odds are in the Zionists' favor.
Nice story but Birthright does not go to any of the settlements apart from sometimes staying at a guest house on one near the Dead Sea in the middle of nowhere (not near any checkpoints). But more than likely happened is that upon coming to Jerusalem, where there are checkpoints, the guide told them to close their curtains so that their first view of the city would be a monumental one from on top of the mountain. It had absolutely nothing to do with the checkpoint on the way into Jerusalem.
@@kobicooper8762 I'm not sure what is your point. Even if I misremembered a detail of what she told me 10 years ago, the point remains the same. She first became aware of the possibility of deceit by daring to peek behind a closed curtain. But I'm not sure how you know everything that birthright does or doesn't do as the trips are different, and certainly have changed over time.
@@StephSunshineArtistry I've literally been a tour guide in Israel for 16 years and have guided over 50 Birthright trips (and many other kind of trips for people of diverse backgrounds). Closing the shades before arriving to Jerusalem has nothing to do with trying to hide anything apart from not seeing the view quite yet until we arrive to the top of the mountain. There's a special Jewish blessing done on seeing or doing things for the first time and arriving in Jerusalem is one of them, so it's nice to be able to do it all together with a special welcome ceremony. The shtick is done with many different groups that come to Israel, not just Birthright, and is done from the western approach as well where there are no checkpoints to "cover up." This is the first time I've ever heard someone interpret that in this way which makes it pretty clear that she was trying to read something into it that wasn't there.
@oper8762 "I've literally been a tour guide in Israel for 16 years and have guided over 50 Birthright trips" Well now you're just not credible lol.
@@meinbherpieg4723 so somebody who went on one trip has more credibility to you than someone who has worked with the program for years and led 50 trips, been through all the various trainings and seminars, knows all the goals, funding, best practices, rules and requirements, not to mention is an expert in the actual country - it's geography, history, politics, etc. That makes tons of sense.
You might, just might, have a problem with confirmation bias that you might want to look at.
My grandmother was expelled from Jerusalem in 1967, where she walked with her 5 children from there to the Jordanian capital. She left her home, her olive and orange trees, and took her key with her, which she wears on her neck to this day. I’ve never seen Jerusalem despite all 4 of my grandparents being from there. I’m not allowed entry. When my grandmother applied for entry through the Israeli embassy, she got rejected. How strange that American new Yorkers with no ties to Palestine can enter, whereas my grandmother - who was born there, lived there, and birthed 5 children there cannot.
That is not normal. But we know from 1948 to 1967 that many Jews had their land stolen and given to Muslims.
We also know many Muslims did stay in the West Bank and Jerusalem.
One Muslim recently turned down an offer of 13 million dollars for his shop in Jerusalem.
My grandfather left his small holding outside Haifa in 1947, he was Arab Jewish and left because (after fighting for the British in WW2) he didn't want to fight his neighbours at the behest of European Zionist. He too had a key... My great uncle Sami returned to what was then Israel after '67, he brought back some oranges for my mother to taste. He told them everything had changed and realistically there was no chance of returning for that generation and property had been occupied by 'foreigners'. I find it odd that someone born in the USA of mixed European heritage, but whose father's grandfather was once Torah observant is allowed to affirm their 'Jewishness' and claim Israeli citizenship. It is more surprising that such a person would deny people having Palestinian-born grandparents the same 'rights' they claim. I won't return to Israel-Palestine until there is a state where all people enjoy equal rights. One day...
@@edelgyn2699 Equal rights?
Depends on what you mean by equal rights.
Most countries have different levels of people and so the rights in theory being equal are anything but in practice.
There is always some movement but for most they remain where they started.
In England you have equal rights. But are the ruling class equal with the working class or those struggling without work.
Also the upper class probably own immense tracts of land so a person in this group not working will still get in a year possibly what a working man gets in a lifetime.
Israel is a young country where rights are arguably more equal even than England therefore.
Excluding the land captured in the 1967 war, people do have equal rights and it is well known that one group of non-jews actually is succeeding three times better than Jews.
The Arabs were under Martial Law for many years for security reasons. They earned their equality by adopting life in Israel.
The situation in what is referred to as occupied land is more complex. In Gaza, the Israelis pulled out giving land for peace.
In this 365 square kilometres of prime sea front land, the 99.9 per cent ethnically pure Muslims had the chance to develop their own country living in peace with Israel that gave them the land.
As we know they want the whole of Israel for an equally 99.9 per cent Muslim society.
This is nonsense but evidently not nonsense to many countries some of which already know about Muslim extremism.
Hence we have Civil War today where the outcome is unclear.
What I find strange is how all the world seems to imagine they have aright to impose their ideas on the conflict either to the benefit of Muslims gaining Israël or the Jews adopting a two state solution or a thousand other scenarios.
Nobody it seems want to leave a nation to sort out its own internal issues.
A newly elected MP says this is for Gaza. So a tin pot politician representing a few thousand Muslims in a small English town thinks his victory is for Gaza.
What if by reciprocal means the nation of Israel says it wants Jews to have equal rights there. They dont of course as a nation want any input into this small town so why does a small town think they can impose their unique solution to Israel when a million other small towns probably might then want to impose their million different solutions.
We live in a mad mad mad world.
Meanwhile this is what the Gazans gave up for rubble, starvation and possible oblivion.
ruclips.net/video/4gOizKqw_lo/видео.htmlsi=ZYxzCWoWQunYnLVN
The largest open air prison
An absolute disgrace 😤
Grow up, move on.
Imagine not being from a land where you can visit for free but the actual people who the land belongs to can’t leave or visit.
Dont have to imagine. Israel is real and twisted.
Yes, and Muslims provide free trips to Mecca for Muslims from all over the world for free. Isn’t this the same thing ? Also, Muslims have invaded and displaced many indigenous people from all over the world. They have no right to demand that Israelis vacate “Palestine” unless they are willing to vacate Constantinople, Cypress, North Africa, Egypt, India, Bosnia and many other places.
This is to encourage people to move and take people's homes.
Wtf 😆
@@tomez8143Your illegal settlers are extremely violent and always supported in their violence by ID F.
That's tru, I read a report saying over 100k Americans that have Jewish decent move to Isreal as settlers and take Palestinian homes. I dont remember the exact number but it was over 100k
@@tomez8143 Basically yeah, Israel is built on occupied land
You think you read a report?
You will have to be more convincing than that 😉
Let me guess...The American Tax Payer is somehow paying for this to?
LOL!!!
Hell, be glad they don't put a chain around our necks and make us lick the sand off their shoes.
Guaranteed.
Last settler-colonialist project in the world. The one before that was South Africa Apartheid regime. I am happy for this young lady and others who rejected the brain washing.
Yes, and Muslims provide free trips to Mecca for Muslims from all over the world for free. Isn’t this the same thing ? Also, Muslims have invaded and displaced many indigenous people from all over the world. They have no right to demand that Israelis vacate “Palestine” unless they are willing to vacate Constantinople, Cypress, North Africa, Egypt, India, Bosnia and many other places.
Who could have ever thought this trip would be propaganda?! 🙄🤣
No thanks Israhell
Only true naive idiots didn’t realize it.
I think more like brainwash programs.
Your emojis are spot on.
The name itself is propaganda
At uni in the early eighties two of my friends went on birthright trips. Shortly after both returned to Israel to “do their national service “ which I thought was odd because they were both Aussies. On their return nearly three years later they both bragged about “killing terrorists” which again was odd because there had not been an official conflict during their period of service. I can’t hang with war criminals so I had to cut them out of my life.
Jewish Australians are the most hard core Zionists.
Sounds like they "defended" settlers from the indigenous people, which happened on the regular with no reporting.
Where did the replies go?
Cool story bruh. Birthright began in 1999 and there was a war with the PLO in Lebanon from 1982-1985 and the first intifada erupted in 1987 but hey you are an expert in Middle Eastern history from a RUclips video. Congrats.
@@kobicooper8762 doing the dirty work for America, let's not forget a bit of land grabbing, Israel is offended of everything and ashamed of nothing.
Britain created this colonial settlers, reason why, because the British wanted to create their little ulster unionist party called Israel in the heart of Palestine, in the same way they did in Northern Ireland to displace the natives, they boasted about it, how their crafty handy work came to fruition in both places.
What does Israel, Britain and United States of America have in common, they are all settler colonisers, Israel is settler colonial project in Palestine, Britain is a settler colonial project in Northern Ireland, United States is settler colonial project in indigenous Indian lands in that region. Israeli settlers always show crocodile tears, playing the victim, while stealing someone’s home. This is what they say, “If I don’t steal your home, someone else will steal it,” was the answer given by an Israeli settler to Muna al-Kurd, a young Palestinian woman who accused him of stealing her home in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood in the occupied East Jerusalem.
The settler replies in a thick US accent: “Yes, but if I go, you don’t go back, so what’s the problem? Why are you yelling at me?”
The response provoked al-Kurd, who told him “You are stealing my house!”
“If I don’t steal it, someone else will steal it,” Jacob answers. “So why are you yelling at me?”
“No one is allowed to steal my home!” al-Kurd shouts.
I had a neighbor who was a jew who lived through the holocaust. An amazing woman. She would be ashamed to see what has been happening and that her own people are repeating the sins of the 20th century.
The chosen one barbarians.
@@frankcrozier2592 , Muslims provide free trips to Mecca for Muslims from all over the world for free. Isn’t this the same thing ? Also, Muslims have invaded and displaced many indigenous people from all over the world. They have no right to demand that Israelis vacate “Palestine” unless they are willing to vacate Constantinople, Cypress, North Africa, Egypt, India, Bosnia and many other places.
I always thought that Birthright was weird, bc no other oppressed people have a version of that. It’s almost like this idea that the Jewish people are “special” or only their oppression is “real”.
For birthright to be legitimate, then it should be true for other racially oppressed groups too.
No to mention where’s the palestinian form of the birthright trip that Jews today have? Despite the Palestinians living there for thousands of years
@@user-bi2by7rf8m 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯. It’s so twisted and messed up.
Have you been under a rock? "Birthright" is used all over the world in land disputes. FYI Palestinians used it also.
Thank you so much Katherine Bogen for your insight. It does take some courage to stand against the Zionists when you are jewish yourself. We definitely need your voice in this fight!
She's also against US nationalism
I'm very impressed with her, but there are also countless other Jews standing against Zionism and for the rights of Palestinians.
@@johnbanach3875 I’m sorry she doesn’t understand that Zionism is the return of the Jews to their homeland. You might disagree with the leaders, it’s government, but to deny the Jews the right of returning to Israel is nothing more than Antisemitism. There are some Jews who are antisemitic. They dislike Israel and probably being born Jewish. It’s sad!
What is US nationalism?@@user-wq2ve7kq9e
I have a friend that went on one of these trips in the mid 90's. When he went to the airport to return home, Israel detained him and demanded that he serve in the IDF before leaving. It was a long story but after getting one of his US Senators involved, he was allowed to return home.
and they say its the only democracy in the middle east, all lies.
If this retelling of a 30+ year old tale holds any truth to it, I'm sure that the most pertinent details have been excluded.
@@andoros.7017 if your mother is an Israeli citizen, Israel considers you an Israeli citizen so it can try to force you to serve in the IDF. I had a buddy in college that had this happen to him when he visited Israel. It's essentially a money-grabbing exercise since you can pay a fine ($1000 in 1999) to get out of it.
Amazing: They can actually kidnap American youth to serve in the IOF?
Wild, was he an adult at the time? For someone overseas I think the citizenship has to be claimed first when the child turned adult.
She's an excellent ambassador and example of the differences between Judaism and Zionism.
Great interview. Thank you Katherine Bogen for sharing your views and experience. Thank you for standing against genocide and actively promoting humanity and justice.
When I was in college, a lot of friends try to recruit me for Birthright. I never went because I saw the effect it had on them. The trip markets Israel as basically adult Disneyland for Jews. These friends were all secular Jews, and it affected them profoundly, being young and not really understanding their place in the world (like most young people). When they came back, it was almost like they'd joined a cult. After college, several of them made aliyah. Most came back to the US after a few years, totally disillusioned with the whole thing. A few are still there and are more crazed than ever.
What disillusions them? I bet its the feeling of insecurity and unsafety for themselves and not the suffering of the Palestinians that makes them go back to America
@@Tribuneoftheplebstheir presence is what causes their insecurity, so leaving is a logical conclusion
@@Tribuneoftheplebs It varied from person to person, but none of the people I spoke with cited safety as a major concern. It was a few years after the 2nd Intifada and the Lebanon war when most of them went and they were mostly in and around Tel Aviv. Some went to Jerusalem or Haifa and and they might have a different view on that but I've lost touch with them.
Cost of living was something everyone struggled with. Others, after living there for a time, said that while there were some cool people, they found _most_ Israelis insufferable - arrogant, snobbish, appearance obsessed, hyper-materialistic, etc. That said, I now live in a city in a different Mediterranean country and it's not much different here. One of my friends that's visited me here says it's more pronounced in Tel Aviv, but I've never been there so can't compare.
A few were turned off by the increasingly hardline politics in the country. The guy I had the most in-depth conversations with had some interesting things to say about the culture in Tel Aviv, which he described as "schizophrenic". On the surface, people appeared fairly liberal but anytime the Palestinians were mentioned, it was always in dehumanizing terms. He happens to be a Moroccan Jew and his father's side of the family is mostly Muslim, so that was pretty unsettling to him.
Other than that, you're correct, the Palestinian issue and apartheid didn't really register with most of them. In Tel Aviv, at least, that seems to be out-of-sight-out-of-mind, even though it's barely an hour away.
@@LibbathegreatBro, everywhere is materislistic but it is important to fight for your homeland.
@@I_Lemaire I agree, that's why I support the Palestinians.
I am halfway through “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel” by Max Blumenthal and strongly advise all others to purchase it. This will give you a realistic look at the national mindset that is creating such unimaginable cruelty to Palestinians.
The Turks did exactly the same in the early 20th century, either identify as a turk or be kicked out and killed from your ancestral lands. Consequence was the Armenian and Greek genocides. If I remember correctly, the Kurds were also slaughtered. The historical parallels are eerie.
Relatively few Americans read. It will have to be turned into a movie.
Great book!
Surprised your comment hasn't been removed.
Zionist indoctrination will dampen the morality and consciousness of those who fall prey to it
I'm a grandson and great-grand son of a Holocaust and forced labor camp survivor. The Nazi's killed a lot of my family.
I'm not Jewish, but I'm kind of getting tiered of Jews in America talking about the struggle that they have never experienced.
I can't imagine myself doing that, using the struggle of my ancestors for political brownie points... "Hi I'm John, my ancestors died in the Holocaust!"
Their victim hood is so contagious that they used it to form the NAACP and turn the blax into crybabies.
They even misuse the Suffering Servant prophesy from Isaiah 53 snd claim it’s about them. Incredible.
@@bennyskim They don't. Others complain.
Oh yes, and the Japanese internment can't really be compared to the Holocaust.
@@AllOtherNamesUsed "They"? This use of the pronoun they is worrying.
@@susanmiller7560 oh no! The dreaded “They” it’s coming!! Quick call an ADL press conference!
Edit: and true to form, I see the very first word you used in your previous post is “they.” Incredible.
What an eloquent and well-spoken woman. The nod to eugenics vis-a-vis the age requirement is a real eye-opener. Shadows of the Lebensborn program
After witnessing this war unfold, my views on Islam and Israel have definitely taken a turn. It's become clear to me who the real bad guys are in this situation.
There was peace between Muslims, Christians and Jews living in Palestine until 1917, when colonial settlers from Europe invaded the country, displaced and dispossessed the indigenous inhabitants, and stole their land. It accelerated to a massive scale during late 1947 especially in the first half of 1948. The first village to be fully cleaned was the village of Qisarya, which had 1500 inhabitants, was on February 15, 1948. The peak of the massacres happened on April 9, 1948, during which 720,000 Palestinians out of the 900,000 who lived in the territories that became Israel fled or were expelled from their homes. Then some ill-equipped and ill-armed Arab armies came to the rescue of the Palestinians, but by the time they arrived in mid May, 1948 it was already late. They were defeated by the superior Israeli army in their so called war of independence on May 15, 1948. The majority of the native Palestinian inhabitants have thus become refugees, some internally in the west bank and Gaza and others outside their country especially in the surrounding countries. The Israeli government soon after passed a law preventing the refugees from coming back to their villages and towns which were subsequently demolished.
The answer is very clear and everybody should support it. One country from the river to the sea with the two peoples living together in a democratic system is the only solution. Such unitary binational state is advocated by several former Zionists and current historians including Miko Peled, Ilan Pappe, Gabor Mate, Norman Finkelstein, Barnaby Raine and others and supported by the majority of the Arab population of Palestine. The imperial colonial Zionist outpost is not working and it would NEVER work.
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@@bsahmed1That was my view also, that it should be one democratic country with strong minority rights. Some Israelis would accept this and most Palestinians as well (the Palestinians have always been in favor of a unified state).
But a lot of the settlers are religious lunatics, who really do want to ethically cleanse the whole of Palestine.
you're over 75 years late.
but it's better late than never. so i gave you a like. i'm in a generous mood today.
@@adamesd3699 The Palestinians supported the idea of a unified state? Do you have something that points to that conclusion? I mean if I were a Palestinian I would probably wouldn't want to live with the Zionists who killed my friends and relatives and forced me and my people off their land.
I too think a single state is the most viable solution. Its just hard to believe that the Palestinians would be that forgiving.
I never used my free trip after having my bar mitzvah. Over the years, I've chosen never to go.
Congrats. No one cares
Sounds like a wise choice!
@@kentfink9509The Zionists definitely care lol
@kentfink9509 Apparently, some people *do* care from the upvotes
@TikiDragon1 yeah, they're all antisemitic. Congrats, you found all the racists.
She was GREAT--articulate, insightful, courageous, humane, proud of her Jewish roots, and a staunch defender of just treatment for Palestinians. Really learned a lot from this conversation.
You are a wonderful person. You honor those who suffered in the holocaust.
hearing what this young lady is saying warm my heart and refresh my hope in humanity.
Totally ! but the thing is Israelis would simply call her a fake
"I have never felt more at home stealing a home and living on stolen land"
Thank you Katherine Bogen for sharing your personal story and for your insight into the plight of the Peoples of Palestine. Much appreciation to you.
The courage, integrity and decency expressed by Katherine are simply inspiring
18-26 age range for the free birthright, how convenient for the military 🙄 Why would age matter if it was about religion or finding connection to ones land.
Right
This is exactly what I thought when heard about the age range😄 They are certainly interested in cannon fodder.
@@user-lq7kv5tq8z some people even say they play favorites on who to send to the front lines ...
Ill push back, that is an ideal age where someone is the most mobile, most likely to be influenced and move there. Not necessarily specific to military service. At 18 a person has the most economic value as well, working age; ready to have kids. They dont suck up resources like a baby or an elderly person.
@@ArchesBro At 18 I disagree on "the most economic value", actually at 18 you have practically no work experience. Most mobile and influenced is true but you can't live without money you need a job that's where military comes into the picture, where you get notoriety of being in the military and some food and money to go along with it oh and being considered heroic to fight for your land and country. And who do you fight, well to continue the oppression and occupation and perhaps for future expansion of jewish supremacy. Cause as we're told God's given all that land to the chosen people. mhm.
Two catchwords for a successful propaganda: "free" and "birthright".
“Birthright” sounds like some nazi stuff ironically
Israelis and Palestinians each use the same terms.....hence lies a big part of the problem.
I have so many parallels with Ms. Bogan.... I'm Irish, Scandinavian and Jewish...and vehemently Pro-Palestinian/ Anti Zionist.
God bless you.
I'd be interested to know why/how you identify as 'Jewish' - I say that because you mention 'Jewish' after citing national identities... For example, my religion is Jewish, but my nationality is British. Both my daughters are British, but only one is Jewish - the other is a secular Buddhist.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
And the truth is "THEY ARE NOT ISRAELITES". They don't follow the TORAH or BIBLE. They made up their own. The TALMUD. They didn't choose GOD, but HE chose "THEM" GTFOH🙄😡
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Thank you for this wonderful conversation. It makes me more safe in thinking that criticizing Israel's policies is not being "anti Jewish".
It really isn't. There's a deeply rooted tradition of anti-Zionism in the global Jewish community that was buried and kept hidden for the last several decades, but is finally resurfacing in response to the ongoing atrocities.
We must obey!
Sad you need to watch anything to feel like your thinking or speech is ok. .
It is just a scare tactic. Remember that Orthodox Jews are against the state of Israel because first of all, it is Zionism which is against the 1st commandment, and they say that religions don't have countries or flags and to believe this is abhorant and against the laws of Judaism.
@@integritron568I mean, we all take comfort in having our thoughts and beliefs reinforced, and that influences where we seek to be informed. It’s interesting to hear this girl’s experiences with the birthright trip - despite going to rabble-rouse for a cause she believes in, she also developed a stronger bond with the faith of her ancestors. Great conversation
Thank you young lady for saying what so many people think......
Fwiw, I attended a Birthright trip and one of the highlights for me, as a secular ethnically Jewish American, was engaging in a number of open conversations about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. These conversations included a number of perspectives from the Israeli and American Jewish attendees and guides, and overall reflected respect for the rights of Palestinians to live with dignity and opportunities to thrive. If I had to guess, without having conducted any formal poll, I'd say a majority of the attendees and guides on my trip, both Jewish and American, supported a 2 state solution. We also had an organized event on the trip where we met Arab Israelis, specifically Bedouins. This event reflected great admiration and respect for Bedouin culture.
Imagine some one come cross north Europe will have more right then Palestinian who born in Palestine to generation to generation
Exactly. My grandmother was a Jew who married a christian and as a granddaughter I have a right to go and live in Israel. Not that I ever would!
most of the Palestinian Arabs emigrated as workers into British Mandate Palestina from Egypt and Syria when jews started to buy land and settle there. Region started to grow in gdp and needed workers.
Most of the Jews in Israel are not Ashkenazi from Europe. They were mainly slaughtered by Germans. 800.000 jews went to Israel to save their live after ethnic cleansing in Arabic countries in retaliation to the defeat of Arabs in Israel independence war.
History is a useful think to learn... very useful
@@maitrevodka Hehehe. Keep trying. :)
@@maitrevodka
Keep it up! that's what I call scientific history !
on another non related subject but based on another scientific history about Africa that African real native population is European not black! 😂
That's because Israel is an Ashkenazi Jew ethnostate. They don't even like Jews from other tribes. They are truly the Aryans of their community.
I would say in addition to the reasons given for that age range limitation, that it's a developmentally vulnerable window of identity consolidation and finding one's place in the world.
Same reason militaries like to recruit youths- their minds are malleable.
It reminds me of the prom. It was all young people and clearly they were trying to hook up or do some things sexual that were not very queer. I was shocked. They also did not talk about genocides, global warming and systemic injustice. They tried to shut me up when I talked about it. Clearly it was propaganda. Not really free.
Thank you Katie for being a voice. You’re admired and appreciated for humanity.
Why do Israelis look white but the Palestinians look like the other people from that region?? 😂😂
Because most of them are American.
Because whenever something like that happens, a wizard did it.
BECAUSE THEY ARE.
Because most of these people are of Eastern European blood.
No wonder Israel is so resistant to DNA tests😅
European converts
So let me get this straight. Because you are a jew, don't matter where you are from, you have a birthright to the land based on some ancient texts? OK, so I was brought up in another religion, can I also claim birthright to Jerusalem because of some other ancient texts?
Yes, how close do you want your beach front property in Gaza? Thats their mentality
There has to be something to bring a Jew other than being hated by antisemites.
If you are a Jew, you can claim citizenship, just like people born of Americans outside the country can ask for citizenship in the US. It's got nothing to do with religion, but you probably already know that.
Yeah that’s a lot of countries have the same thing
I mean, birthright is sort of border-agnostic in some sense. I was born on the earth and have some right to walk and live where I please, just as ancestors did for tens of thousands of years. But just like with most things, my rights end where the rights of others begin, and I’ll often have to exercise and defend my rights within the legal frameworks of modern nations.
Thank you Katherine you truly are a lovely human being.
Israel exposed!! Good job--both guest and interviewer!
Take a look at the design of the shirts at 0 :37
They've been exposed for a while. The internet just gave the world the opportunity to see it for themselves.
lol, you guys are nuts. You can come here, it's an amazing place
@@tonybanks1035 yea if you're white and Jewish.
@@tonybanks1035 Here is?
What a brave young lady 👏 🙌
Incisive. Decent. Bold and articulate .
This young lady is fantastic
Great interview. I'll never use IDF again. IOF is 100% correct. Thanks!
ITF. can you guess the T?
Nope.@@Anticolonialist
D is fine. Death squads and diapers exist in this universe 😂
And the IOF seems to be in great need of those diapers. :) @@RumHam5570
That choice IOF instead of IDF shows how brave she is ! She got over years of propaganda
I used to work in a Kibbutz in 1996 called Revivim, as a Volunteer in the local factory for 80 Shekel per month for 3 months. Since i heard that Israelis or the Jewish are convinced that they're the chosen ones...it does irritate me very much..like feeling that i was some kind of fool
Israeli historian Ilan Pappé says that Israelis aren't really religious: "They don't believe in God, but they believe He promised them the land." Last night, I was listening to an interview with an Israeli professor of language education, Nurit Peled-Elhanan, and she said that while devout Jews read the Talmud, which is mostly rabbinical commentary, the extremist Zionists read the Bible, without commentary, and just pick out the portions that sound good, make heroes of certain figures. The ethics is taken out. The nuance is taken out. You can just point out a passage from the Bible to justify what you've already decided you want to do-like Netanyahu talking about Amalek.
@@AisuruMirai Interesting
@@AisuruMiraiThe giy who invented Zionism,his name is Hearzl in the late 1880' s was atheist to begin with. However, he said that God gave them Palestine. That is what IIlan Pappe was referring to
@@Bleyluige He says this in reference to Zionists in general, not to Theodor Herzl specifically.
I had several friends in college go from 2017-2019 and they each spent time in Bedouin camps with Palestinians? They very openly learned about the conflict and had the opportunity to speak with Palestinians
As an arab, i urge the media to keep telling us about jewish people who care for the palestinian cause. this is important and crucial and our next generations need to know this. Please don’t underestimate it!
Trying to breed in a solidly American Caucasian Israeli state in the Middle East. Israel truly is americas “battle ship”
As Arab learned early on, it is an army to which they needed to provide families.
Even though they may have stolen Caucasian genes, they are not Caucasian. In fact, they hate Caucasians.
A battleship with lobbyists and basically by this point owns the US government?
Hwore of babylon.
This channel deletes so many comments. Pathetic.
I’ll dare any Jew to compare DNA tests 😂
they are descended from Slavic Eastern Europeans
Khazars, fake Jews. Ye was right
@@stephencaudill2422 Its called Ashkenazi, Jews got kicked out of israel by the Romans. Lots of cool battles if youre into military history. Masada was a real interesting one
They were also kicked out of 108 other countries. It was always not their fault. @@z-rossi3672
@z-rossi3672 i remember the first time i heard that name, i couldn't believe my ears, sounds like ask a nazi, i remember and Pepperidge Farms remembers too. 🙃
Smart lady with a beautiful soul. Tq for enlighten us with this insight story, learned something new today. Wish there is more Katherine out there. Bless you and keep doing the right thing for a better world for all.
Israel is a liberal democracy is like saying freedom of speech exists in US.
Which is to say that it is true, with some nuance..
Highest rate of skin cancer in the world. I wonder why
They have reduced it by having skin cancer awareness week, applying skin protection, early detection and cure. If not they would be among the highest other than Australia and New Zealand both are settler colonial projects.
because they dont belong there, their ancestry doesnt give them genes to handle intense heat
Racist
Because Slaves and Europeans are not equiped genetically to live on this land. I Guess that's God choice.
@@robertdole5391It’s not racist. If you’re of European descent as most Israelis are, then you have to protect your skin. Most Israeli Arab Jews have skin more adopted to the climate in the Middle East, like the Palestinians, many of them are indigenous😊
Time for Congress to offer free "Birthright Palestine" trips to Palestinian- American youths to go to their homeland and see how their people are treated as second-class citizens.under the Apartheid regime: That might serve to educate the American public on what their tax dollars are spent on.
I’m not a huge fan of Israel, but birthright trips aren’t funded by American tax payer dollars so that’s not really comparable
@@grayson5292 not yet… But New York just gave $189+ million to descendants of the holocaust… And there has absolutely been talks about US sponsored trips, Meanwhile, reparations for Native Americans and descendants of slaves-a crime that actually happened here in America- are null 🤯🤦🏻♀️🤮
@@grayson5292we give them billions in aid every year so part of it has to go there or they would have to take this to fill the hole somewhere else, this balance the budget thing I heard.
Except that the US Capitol Building is probably the most densely pro-zionism square footage in the world.
Money is fungible so actually it could be inplied we do fund birthright. @grayson5292
Katie.. Very impressive. Thanks for sharing the truth.
Katherine is so warm. Could listen to her for hours.
Sounds like a timeshare scam 😂
Impressed by the conversation and a model on how to confront illogical arguments with a smart smile and say the true a always showing respectful attitude . Stunning report good job
Israel ran a program similar to Birthright back in the 1980s designed for US high-school students to spend their summer vacation living with families on kibbutzes in exchange for saying nice things about Israel on their return to the US. Back then I was setting type for a print shop that produced the monthly newsletters for five local synagogues, so I wound up setting hundreds of essays entitled "My Summer in Isreal", dutifully correcting their spelling each time.
A minor spelling error, compared to the major mistakes here in the comments section.
Yep... a friend of mine recently shared with me his birthright tour experience. He hooked up with two hot IOF lady soldiers in the ten days he was there. Said the whole experience just felt off.
Jealous?
@@I_Lemaire of what, that doesnt even make sense?
I love how comments critical of Israel are getting removed by RUclips.
That’s a fact of which I have zero argument against.
Me too!
I get banned if i type “JU”
They are freaking out
@@RudeBoy.44MAGhow freedom loving of you.
I was gonna do it until I looked into the history behind Israel. There's no such thing as a free trip.
This is a very good analysis of setler colonial project
Imagine looking at Bibi and say, "Yeah! He definitely looks like someone from the middle east...!!"
Now I don’t have enough knowledge on the topic but I do recall a certain segment of people in Germany that did extensive research on the history of the Jews
And they were very clear that they weren’t from europe
That's not saying much, there's no shortage of people in the Levant in general who could pass for a European.
Also have you seen Egyptians?
One of my closest friend's family came from Yemen and then moved to Israel after 47. So they are true Semitic Jews. One of her family members had their baby stolen and sold to some wealthy family. They told her family that the baby had died. Even had a grave. The Arab Jews have been singled out for a lot of nasty stuff over there. Her family was kicked out of Yemen and literally had nowhere to go.
The trip should be to Eastern Europe.
There’s no diaspora because they’re not from there;
The Palestinians are!!!!
Is this the whole "khazar" thing?
@@Horatio.Mantooth Absolutely not, it's a fact 80% of the world's Jewish population lived in Poland before WW2. As a Pole though I don't know if I agree that they belong in Poland either, but they belong in Poland way way more than Israel. To this day my uncle travels to Israel to visit his Polish friends (who happen to be Jewish).
Completely ahistorical and uninformed lie being spread by people who don’t know anything about Judaism or history. Judaism was born in the land of Israel, not in Eastern Europe. Furthermore, Israel is comprised of Jews from all over the world , more than half of the population are from middle eastern countries. As Jews, those that are actually religious and practicing, unlike this anti Zionist Jew, our lives are completely centered on Israel. We pray three times a day facing Jerusalem, our eternal and undivided capital, and we have been blessed to see the fulfillment of prophecy with the ingathering of the exiles. The purpose of birthright is not only to educate secular, uninformed Jews about their heritage and religion, but to also ensure the continuity of the Jewish people by ensuring that young Jews marry other Jews. Sorry, we won’t apologize for ensuring our survival in our homeland! עם ישראל חי!🇮🇱
@ILOVEHATE8 before 1948 the Jewish population in Palestine/Israel was less than 5%. Most Jews left that region thousands of years ago and most that stayed in that region converted to Islam ☪️. European 🇪🇺 Caucasians have no birthright to old Palestine.
@@bennyskimyes, and the colonizer has been painting a picture that no one lived there…
Who pays for it ? US taxpayers
Khazarians converted to Judaism in the 8th century and they are not Semitic
This woman is mesmerizing. I'm glad she's representing justice, so I don't have to hate on her.
Norm's got a competitor for the top spot. We need more like Katie, she nails it!
No need to pit them against each other, think the Palestinians need all the eloquent voices they can get after years of being ignored.
WOOW!Thank you both! I learned a lot. I've been observing Palestine/Israel for decades. As a kid very much supportive of israel. But once I saw through the propaganda, I am appalled what is being done to Palestinians. The brutality and sadism inherent in all operations against them is making my blood boil! I have a strong sense of justice and Zionist Israelis are extremely unjust, arrogant people. My heroes are Ilan Pappe, Norm Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky, Miko Peled, and, of course, Gideon Levy, Amira Haas. Katherine, you're very smart and eloquent! Love your well informed view. You're also beautiful, if I might add. ))) And interesting that you're into sexual/ political issues. Very nice to meet you here. I'll be checking your channels. Take care!❤😊
I am not defending Israeli policy here but when I was younger I worked in a library and we carried many newspapers and magazines and we carried a couple that were really anti Israeli and I remember to this day constantly checking those periodicals to the same people over and over and when checking their materials out all they could talk about was Israel, all conversations were about Israel and this channel more and more each day reminds me of that almost to the point of parody. I miss the days when this channel was a fresh alternative to dinosaur media.
The truth can never be hidden for ever particularly when the true side doesn't want to give up its rights after 75 years
Gee..... I thought being "Jewish" was just converting to Judaism.... You mean it's actually about GENETICS?
Fascism usually is
Because the Jews are also a race of people did you not know that??
Like how theres difference between Irish and black people
Jews are not a race its a religion. Only since the 1940s have anyone tried to claim it as a race. They are white
So this can proved through DNA?@@__-nd5qi
I have already been following Katie for a few months, not only she has the brains, but her stunning looks are so breathtaking!! I wish we had a few more thousands of Jews like her!! She’s on the right side of history!!
Her mother is Irish Catholic - the Irish are often stunning.
@@coffee6783 tell me about it, I had an Irish girlfriend who is 6 feet tall and has the most stunning face, not to mention how fun and smart she is!! I miss that woman!!
There is no "right side of History," as history is history.
There are thousands more, just without the same platform
@@bodyloverz30 oh really? So why did we see so many movies, read so many books, had so many lectures in schools, so many documentaries on the evil Nazis and what they have done wrong… which means they were on the strong side of history, because what they did was absolutely wrong. And we have been hearing that the western allies were on the right side of history… why the whole world says so? You seen the first and only person to go against this notion, which means your opinion odd not to be taken into consideration… and yes, this woman is absolutely on the right side of history!! I support the existence of Israel and its right to have a state, but I want the Palestinians to have their own land and state, freedom from occupation and daily torture and murder. It’s wrong to strip a whole populace of their dignity and freedom in their own ancestral land… Palestinians and Israelis have to sort out this situation of they want peace!
Israel wants young, educated, culturally similar people to immigrate to their country. Fantastic idea. We should adopt this idea in the US.
It makes me sick to hear these young people talk about their joyful experiences in a country of apartheid and violence.
When they say funded by the Israeli givt, that means funded by the US, seeing as they get so much aid from them
No the aid to Israel is all military of which 90% has to be purchased from US companies, which makes it just a subsidy for us military industries. Israel is the only country in history to receive economic aid from the US and then to decline receiving any more.
How many of these birthright recruits continue on to become settlers?
Brilliant!!! thank you courage, your unlearing and your teaching🙏💖
They can even choose their future houses. Just by pin pointing them. How convenient !
Such an eloquent young womam
Great example of social media working as a vehicle to share knowledge. Great interview. Informative and inspiring.
Dirty trip for dirty people
What about the genocide right behind the fence?
And guess who probably pays for those trips ultimately, your tax dollars
Tax dollars and money collected by the practical monopolies you have to do business with in the US in order to get your necessities like food, etc.
It literally says in the beginning of the video who funds the trip. Nice try.
@@kobicooper8762 and then if you watch the video you find the Isreali government also contributes to the trips and who funds the Israeli government? ... US tax dollars. Nice try!
You can tell from the way she carried herself thats she has a kind soul, may everyone also wake up from being mind controlled
No. You can't.
I just love Katherine and her energy and intelligence so much ❤️
yeah I lost interest when she was talking about how she found her faith in a state that literally has no archaeological evidence of Israel
Thank you for your honesty and fight for this injustice!
I did Birthright back in 2017. Openly and truthfully, the main goal was to strengthen your ties to Israel and ideally get you to fall in love with an Israeli or a fellow jewish person. On my trip they didn't lean really hard into the propaganda. They talked about Israeli history, had you visit Yad Vashem, visit the Golan Heights, Mount Masada, The Temple Mount, Dead Sea and stay a night with the Beduins in the Negev desert. It wasn't too overbearing or filled with anti-Pallestine propaganda but they minimized your time in the West Bank and didn't bring you too close to Gaza. It's certainly a pro-Israel trip but it's not so heavy handed. Like i said, it's main goal seemed to get you to fall in love with an Israeli or fellow jewish person.
As someone else whose done the trip this is the real answer
Sounds like you got rizzed
Exactly, but breaking points doesn’t care about truth anymore.
LOL! What magic love potion did they use on you and those from the opposite sex??
Did it work??
She ABSOLUTELY and OBJECTIVELY speaks the TRUTH!!
Thank you, Katherine, for that information your voice means a lot to the Palestinian people right for their occupied land.
Humanity is beautiful when it realises its connection to the source and away from the artificial constructs of race and religion.
Beautiful soul! Thank you for sharing your experience ❤
When I heard somebody's stories of their trip and the relationship they came back with, I suspected the Honeypot maneuvering as well
Nobody said Fascism wasn't seductive.