Thank you for your kind words William, Im on here nearly every day staring at my subscriber count. Feel free to leave a comment with any questions you may have.
we need more videos like this. God! thank you very much. my 2014 cvt mirage de feels like not responding when i step on the throttle. and i'm getting terrible mileage figures. wish i could learn more like this
Thank you for your kind words! feel free to subscribe if you liked the video. With regards to your hesitation(slow accelerator response) problem, if you see the tachometer needle "shake" after the engine has warmed up, is idling while in park at 700 rpm. Consider changing your spark plugs. A common fix for your hesitation problem would be to try and run a few gas tanks of premium gas with fuel system cleaner added to them. Most gas stations sell injector/fuel system cleaner, a popular brand is called "Techron". Here you can read about someone that fixed the hesitation issue by changing the fuel pump filter: mirageforum.com/forum/showthread.php/8923-Hesitation-on-Acceleration-(60k-km-5-years)-FIXED-cleaned-fuel-system
I am in that situation with my 2017 Rogue Sport SV. The transmission would cost as much as the vehicle is worth if it ever fails at this point. A lot of other vehicles from Jeep and Dodge had these CVTs and probably still come with them or some equally horrible one. The nice thing about these being found in a lot of vehicles is that they are not something that is horrible because of parts scarcity. If you are not afraid of aftermarket fluids there are plenty to choose from. Some of those are a lot cheaper than the stuff from some dealers too and it may be the same stuff with a different label since Idemitsu makes a lot of the fluids for these vehicles.
Before you drain the fluid warm the car up or drive it for ten minutes Then pull the dip stick and check the level After drain and fill warm it up again and then check the fluid level when it’s hot The fluid expands when it hot and that’s how you get a true reading Also you need to slowly work the gear shift in the car after you fill it and before checking the level 5 seconds in each position Do it twice Park reverse Drive Low or first gear Fluid needs to be worked in. Good video 👍
The official instructions from Mitsubishi on how to check the CVT fluid level using the dipstick are shown at 17:14 in the video. It is with the engine on, warmed up and after shifting through all the gears. The level is lower with the engine on as the pump is constantly moving fluid, similarly after shifting the fluid level is lower as the clutch packs will be wet with fluid.
hola amigo, aprecio que realmente este video, mi pregunta es, al empaque o junta le pusiste algun silicon o solo lo asentaste y asi lo juntaste para apretarlo, agradeceria su respuesta
It is mentioned at 17:08 in the video, I added 4.35 liters. If you only open the drain plug without dropping the pan you will need less oil. Thank you for watching!
My Mirage has traveled 150,000 km. I will change the transmission oil as you did. I have 4 liters of oil and a paper filter. I have never changed the transmission oil before. Is there a problem with that? Thank you again.
I don’t think it will be a problem. I changed it at around 90,000km. Even if you change 4 litres still around 3 liters remain in the transmission as the torque converter will not drain.
From where do you get documents like the one you used at 10:00 ? I am new at doing repairs by myself but i want to do it more profesionally like you but i lack Documentation and very often i cant find parts for my car other than from shops like Autodoc and then they often dont have the parts i need ....
Every 30k miles according to the severe maintenance schedule. Never according to the normal maintenance schedule. I’d follow the severe one then tell the dealership you were following the normal one if you ever make a warranty claim.
I have a nissan sentra and a mirage I have done the sentra. Ita the same jatco cvt. I'm wondering if the cvt fluid is compatible. I know they have manufacturer fluid the cooling components and where the fluid touches may have material differences. But I have 4 left over quarts ns 3 nissan. I changed filters and fluid and then spill and filled it 2 times total 3 time till fluid was bule green. I think I can use rhe nissan fluid in the mitsibushi
I imagine the Nissan fluid would work. I personally wouldn’t take any risks with a fluid I buy once every few years. The primary difference between the mirage and Nissan cvt is that Nissan gives you an external cooler and the mirage only has a heat exchanger with coolant that both helps heat the fluid up to increase efficiency and cools the transmission if it’s hotter than the coolant. The absence of a heat exchanger is why the mirage needs so much less fluid and warms up quicker. The mirage also has a different software setup that is more aggressive at shifting into neutral and keeping the RPM down. The mirage in some other markets/countries has an electric cvt pump that keeps fluid moving when the engine auto start-stop(also not available in Canada) shuts the engine down to save gas. You can see the spot in the fuse box for the pump fuse.
Thank you for the kind words. The oil pan gasket sits between 2 perfectly flat surfaces. It wouldn't matter if it's a few mm off center. The only thing that locates the gasket is the many bolts that pass through it. In other words, you don't need to worry about it.
@@welfarewagonrepairs I didn’t word my question right, I meant the o-ring for the main filter but I said gasket lol. Thank you for your response though! I’m about to figure it all out using your video, got the pan bolts loose draining the fluid in my garage now 😁
5.9 newton meters it’s shown in the diagram at 9:57 in the video. It is not very tight. I was very scared of stripping the bolts as there is very little thread. Your problem is likely that the pan is either warped or that some sort of dirt is trapped between the pan and the transmission. My car didn’t even come with a gasket.
It’s mentioned at 11:50 in the video it is on top of the pan as I install it. At 11:56 you can see it for a fraction of a second as I slide it a little to get the first bolt in. You can also see it sandwiched between the pan and the transmission body as I tighten the first bolt at 12:10 in the video.
It just lays between the pan and the transmission body there is no way to install it incorrectly. As there is no gasket maker or paste or special tools or steps needed for install.
perfect bro, thank you, I`d like to know if I could change just the filter and the fluid, what could happen if I dont put a new O ring, new pan filter and pan gasket? Most of the mechanics here charged me $250 for the service, but Im pretty sure they would just change the filter and the fluid as the gaskets and other materials are more expensive
@@marcuslima2535 The owners manual does not recommend changing the pan filter or even dropping the pan, it only recommends cartridge filter and fluid changes if driving in rough conditions. You should be fine reusing the pan gasket, my car didn't even come with one. The o-ring should also be ok to reuse but some people have torn them during re-installation so its probably good to have a spare on hand. The pan filter is only a metal screen, you could definitely remove it and try and run fluid through it in reverse or use compressed air to clean it. The pan filter I used is less than ten dollars on rockauto.com so it wasn't worth cleaning for me. The main reason I dropped the pan was not to change the pan filter or to clean the magnets, it was because if I only pulled the drain plug I would not know how much fluid to put back in. The service manual recommends measuring what comes out and replacing it but that sounds like horrible idea if you do not know if the transmission is under/over filled before you start. Dropping the pan also allowed me to change the maximum amount of transmission fluid. The transmission service at my local Mitsubishi dealership is either fluid only or they can change the paper filter for an added fee. They do not ever drop the pan or touch the pan filter as that is suppose to last the life of the transmission.
beautiful explanation mate, I live in Australia, so here is not too easy to get some parts and they usually are more expensive, the pan filter and gasket would cost me $60, the oil filter $30 and O ring $40 lol
The larger 1/2in drive torque wrench shows foot pounds on one side and newton meters on the other. The smaller 1/4in torque wrench shown in this video has inch pounds on one side and CM/KG on the other. A conversion between all the popular units of torque is provided on a sticker inside the case of the wrench. Newton Meters isn't exactly a great unit to use a small wrench with because the wrench maxes out at 200 inch pounds which is only approx. 22.6 newton meters. Thank you for taking the time to watch this video and leave a comment. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@wonderboykun you need both. The 1/4 can’t remove the drain plug bolt and the 1/2 inch is too big to use to install the pan bolts(minimum torque value may also be too high). If you can only afford one get the smaller one. The bigger drain plug bolt is harder to mess up
my car have currently 80.000km and the fluid was never changed before, is a dark color and I`ve heard this cvt transmission cause problems easily, so I wanna do the best for the car but at the same time don`t wanna spend money with things that doesn`t really need to be replaced, and just replacing the filter and fluid themselves would be so much easier and faster.
The fluid will basically always be dark in color. You are only going to replace maybe 60-80% of the fluid, and the remaining fluid that is stuck in the torque converter and other places is going to immediately darken any new fluid you add after you start the car up and the pump mixes it all together.
Very fancy/expensive transmission places can replace fluid with two hoses connected to the heat exchanger lines which allows for replacing all the fluid as new fluid is forced in until it all looks clean. But it’s expensive, excessive and not practical on the mirage as it does not have an external transmission fluid radiator.
about 87,00km. Based on the fact that I was missing the pan gasket, the previous owner probably serviced this transmission at least once as well. Thanks for watching, please let me know if you have any other questions.
Yes sir, all 6th generation mirages 2012-2024 are very similar. If you have auto start/stop (not available in North America) then you will have an electric cvt fluid pump you may need to remove to access the side filter
Every video I see they say it was so easy to reinstall the filter, well the housing just leaks like a siv and I cannot get it to stop. I've tried everythings
Some people I’ve seen when they install they put a tear in the gasket and it leaks until they replace it. Either that or the metal tab was bent, or the bolt is not tight
The breaker bar is just the wrench i use. It’s called that because it does not ratchet. You can use any wrench you want the bolt won’t know 😂. If you use a very cheap ratchet it may break. But a cheap breaker bar will always work as it has no gears. The socket goes onto the breaker bar. The same socket is used for any wrench you want, breaker bar, Ratchet, torque wrench.
The video says to use 3.2 litres in the bottom corner at 9:50 I have no idea where you get the 4.35 number from. I measured in litres as that is the unit the measuring cup I used provides. You can see in the video that 3.2 litres is exactly enough to bring the level up to the high mark.
it shown at 16:57 in the video. If you drop the pan and change the auxiliary(paper filter) like I did you will likely also need to add 4.35 liters of fluid as I did. I recommend you measure what comes out and add that amount back in. Thank you for watching!
I would be likely to do the filter from the top. I see people with Toyotas and other Japanese vehicles having to take the wheel off to fill the CVT and other things. It just seems so absurd they would design them so you have to jump through these hoops! I had a 2013 Passat and I never had to deal with such absurd design with that! Many people make it sound like they are a money pit that only a dealer can work on and that is simply not 100% true. Sure not everyone can change everything in those out but these people make it sound like you have to hike through the mountains of Tibet to find a wise man to get anything done! What they don't realize is that all vehicles are like this now and some of them are worse even!!
Lol love it. The parking garage mechanic king.
Fantastically detailed how-to video Mohammed. I appreciate the work it took to put this together.
Thank you for your kind words William,
Im on here nearly every day staring at my subscriber count. Feel free to leave a comment with any questions you may have.
we need more videos like this. God! thank you very much.
my 2014 cvt mirage de feels like not responding when i step on the throttle. and i'm getting terrible mileage figures. wish i could learn more like this
Thank you for your kind words! feel free to subscribe if you liked the video.
With regards to your hesitation(slow accelerator response) problem, if you see the tachometer needle "shake" after the engine has warmed up, is idling while in park at 700 rpm. Consider changing your spark plugs.
A common fix for your hesitation problem would be to try and run a few gas tanks of premium gas with fuel system cleaner added to them. Most gas stations sell injector/fuel system cleaner, a popular brand is called "Techron".
Here you can read about someone that fixed the hesitation issue by changing the fuel pump filter: mirageforum.com/forum/showthread.php/8923-Hesitation-on-Acceleration-(60k-km-5-years)-FIXED-cleaned-fuel-system
I am in that situation with my 2017 Rogue Sport SV. The transmission would cost as much as the vehicle is worth if it ever fails at this point. A lot of other vehicles from Jeep and Dodge had these CVTs and probably still come with them or some equally horrible one. The nice thing about these being found in a lot of vehicles is that they are not something that is horrible because of parts scarcity. If you are not afraid of aftermarket fluids there are plenty to choose from. Some of those are a lot cheaper than the stuff from some dealers too and it may be the same stuff with a different label since Idemitsu makes a lot of the fluids for these vehicles.
so much detai ! Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
Well done!!! You earned a new subscriber!
Brilliant video, love all the details.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very good, helpful video. Well researched. I forgive the novice video quality because of the quality content.
Thank you for watching!, hopefully one day I will buy a nice camera
Thank you for the video! Awesome instructions and great explanation of instructions.
I am delighted to hear you found the video helpful. Thank you for watching!
Before you drain the fluid warm the car up or drive it for ten minutes
Then pull the dip stick and check the level
After drain and fill warm it up again and then check the fluid level when it’s hot
The fluid expands when it hot and that’s how you get a true reading
Also you need to slowly work the gear shift in the car after you fill it and before checking the level
5 seconds in each position
Do it twice
Park reverse
Drive
Low or first gear
Fluid needs to be worked in.
Good video 👍
Thank you for your kind words Angus,
I also included a photo of the official instructions on how to check the dipstick at 17:25 in the video.
Thanks man, first one who changing Both filters 👍 also you help me with the side filter model number 😅
It’s in the video description.
I've been looking at a few videos now, they usually don't mention both filters or this much detail
Thank you on behalf of all of us...
thanks for being specific on how much oil to add
Thank you for watching!
When checking cvt fluid with dipstick... is engine supposed to be running or turned off??? (Ive read and seen videos recommending both)
Thanks
The official instructions from Mitsubishi on how to check the CVT fluid level using the dipstick are shown at 17:14 in the video. It is with the engine on, warmed up and after shifting through all the gears. The level is lower with the engine on as the pump is constantly moving fluid, similarly after shifting the fluid level is lower as the clutch packs will be wet with fluid.
Is this from a technical manual? How do you get those? 2024 mirage
hola amigo, aprecio que realmente este video, mi pregunta es, al empaque o junta le pusiste algun silicon o solo lo asentaste y asi lo juntaste para apretarlo, agradeceria su respuesta
no se necesita silicona. Originalmente no había nada, ni silicona ni junta. Agregué una junta.
Gracias por ver!
@@welfarewagonrepairs gracias por responder, saludos
Thank you you told us great but how many liters of oil did you add and is 3 liters enough
It is mentioned at 17:08 in the video, I added 4.35 liters. If you only open the drain plug without dropping the pan you will need less oil. Thank you for watching!
My Mirage has traveled 150,000 km. I will change the transmission oil as you did. I have 4 liters of oil and a paper filter. I have never changed the transmission oil before. Is there a problem with that? Thank you again.
I don’t think it will be a problem. I changed it at around 90,000km. Even if you change 4 litres still around 3 liters remain in the transmission as the torque converter will not drain.
From where do you get documents like the one you used at 10:00 ?
I am new at doing repairs by myself but i want to do it more profesionally like you but i lack Documentation and very often i cant find parts for my car other than from shops like Autodoc and then they often dont have the parts i need ....
Go to mirageforum.com and search for “factory service manual”. Parts shown In the video are from Partsouq, Mitsubishi dealerships and Rockauto.
Cuántos litros de aceite cvt usaste en el servicio
4,35 litros de líquido OEM, como se muestra a las 16:55 en la esquina inferior izquierda.
Gracias por ver!
At how many miles should this be done Thanks
Every 30k miles according to the severe maintenance schedule. Never according to the normal maintenance schedule. I’d follow the severe one then tell the dealership you were following the normal one if you ever make a warranty claim.
Very useful, thank you 🙂NZ
Thank you for watching!
I have a nissan sentra and a mirage I have done the sentra. Ita the same jatco cvt. I'm wondering if the cvt fluid is compatible. I know they have manufacturer fluid the cooling components and where the fluid touches may have material differences. But I have 4 left over quarts ns 3 nissan. I changed filters and fluid and then spill and filled it 2 times total 3 time till fluid was bule green. I think I can use rhe nissan fluid in the mitsibushi
I imagine the Nissan fluid would work. I personally wouldn’t take any risks with a fluid I buy once every few years.
The primary difference between the mirage and Nissan cvt is that Nissan gives you an external cooler and the mirage only has a heat exchanger with coolant that both helps heat the fluid up to increase efficiency and cools the transmission if it’s hotter than the coolant. The absence of a heat exchanger is why the mirage needs so much less fluid and warms up quicker. The mirage also has a different software setup that is more aggressive at shifting into neutral and keeping the RPM down. The mirage in some other markets/countries has an electric cvt pump that keeps fluid moving when the engine auto start-stop(also not available in Canada) shuts the engine down to save gas. You can see the spot in the fuse box for the pump fuse.
Excellent video! How do you know the gasket on the pan filter is seated correctly when you put it in?
Thank you for the kind words. The oil pan gasket sits between 2 perfectly flat surfaces. It wouldn't matter if it's a few mm off center. The only thing that locates the gasket is the many bolts that pass through it. In other words, you don't need to worry about it.
@@welfarewagonrepairs I didn’t word my question right, I meant the o-ring for the main filter but I said gasket lol. Thank you for your response though! I’m about to figure it all out using your video, got the pan bolts loose draining the fluid in my garage now 😁
@@KekeeBlack the o-ring sits in a groove thats very loose. Best of luck!
Hey man could you please tell me how tight you installed the pan bolts? I have the same pan gasket but it’s still leaking for me
5.9 newton meters it’s shown in the diagram at 9:57 in the video. It is not very tight. I was very scared of stripping the bolts as there is very little thread. Your problem is likely that the pan is either warped or that some sort of dirt is trapped between the pan and the transmission. My car didn’t even come with a gasket.
@@welfarewagonrepairs interesting, I also applied 5.9Nm and in the order it asked for. I’ll give it a clean and check the pan is straight. Thank you
i need to get this done on mine
I havent seen you installing the pan gasket, where in the video did it happen?
It’s mentioned at 11:50 in the video it is on top of the pan as I install it. At 11:56 you can see it for a fraction of a second as I slide it a little to get the first bolt in. You can also see it sandwiched between the pan and the transmission body as I tighten the first bolt at 12:10 in the video.
It just lays between the pan and the transmission body there is no way to install it incorrectly. As there is no gasket maker or paste or special tools or steps needed for install.
perfect bro, thank you, I`d like to know if I could change just the filter and the fluid, what could happen if I dont put a new O ring, new pan filter and pan gasket? Most of the mechanics here charged me $250 for the service, but Im pretty sure they would just change the filter and the fluid as the gaskets and other materials are more expensive
@@marcuslima2535 The owners manual does not recommend changing the pan filter or even dropping the pan, it only recommends cartridge filter and fluid changes if driving in rough conditions. You should be fine reusing the pan gasket, my car didn't even come with one. The o-ring should also be ok to reuse but some people have torn them during re-installation so its probably good to have a spare on hand.
The pan filter is only a metal screen, you could definitely remove it and try and run fluid through it in reverse or use compressed air to clean it. The pan filter I used is less than ten dollars on rockauto.com so it wasn't worth cleaning for me.
The main reason I dropped the pan was not to change the pan filter or to clean the magnets, it was because if I only pulled the drain plug I would not know how much fluid to put back in. The service manual recommends measuring what comes out and replacing it but that sounds like horrible idea if you do not know if the transmission is under/over filled before you start. Dropping the pan also allowed me to change the maximum amount of transmission fluid.
The transmission service at my local Mitsubishi dealership is either fluid only or they can change the paper filter for an added fee. They do not ever drop the pan or touch the pan filter as that is suppose to last the life of the transmission.
beautiful explanation mate, I live in Australia, so here is not too easy to get some parts and they usually are more expensive, the pan filter and gasket would cost me $60, the oil filter $30 and O ring $40 lol
Do the smaller torque wrenches show it in NM meters. I know the larger ones I have, show foot pounds of torque
The larger 1/2in drive torque wrench shows foot pounds on one side and newton meters on the other. The smaller 1/4in torque wrench shown in this video has inch pounds on one side and CM/KG on the other. A conversion between all the popular units of torque is provided on a sticker inside the case of the wrench. Newton Meters isn't exactly a great unit to use a small wrench with because the wrench maxes out at 200 inch pounds which is only approx. 22.6 newton meters.
Thank you for taking the time to watch this video and leave a comment. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@welfarewagonrepairs Thanks for the information!
@@welfarewagonrepairs which yokrque wrench size is best to use in this job?
@@wonderboykun you need both. The 1/4 can’t remove the drain plug bolt and the 1/2 inch is too big to use to install the pan bolts(minimum torque value may also be too high). If you can only afford one get the smaller one. The bigger drain plug bolt is harder to mess up
@@welfarewagonrepairs thank you so much!
my car have currently 80.000km and the fluid was never changed before, is a dark color and I`ve heard this cvt transmission cause problems easily, so I wanna do the best for the car but at the same time don`t wanna spend money with things that doesn`t really need to be replaced, and just replacing the filter and fluid themselves would be so much easier and faster.
The fluid will basically always be dark in color. You are only going to replace maybe 60-80% of the fluid, and the remaining fluid that is stuck in the torque converter and other places is going to immediately darken any new fluid you add after you start the car up and the pump mixes it all together.
Very fancy/expensive transmission places can replace fluid with two hoses connected to the heat exchanger lines which allows for replacing all the fluid as new fluid is forced in until it all looks clean. But it’s expensive, excessive and not practical on the mirage as it does not have an external transmission fluid radiator.
how many KMs when you changed the cvt oil?
about 87,00km. Based on the fact that I was missing the pan gasket, the previous owner probably serviced this transmission at least once as well.
Thanks for watching, please let me know if you have any other questions.
Did you need to reset the CVT Degradation level?
I did not reset the degradation level. I am not sure if there is a benefit in doing so.
Saludos el aceite se mide con el auto encendido o apagado
Por tu seguridad. el aceite se mide con el motor apagado. Mido poco después de que esté apagado ya que el filtro de aceite todavía está lleno.
How do you get those diagrams and all that detailed info (like torque NM)
They are from the factory service manual. You can find one by searching for it on mirageforum.com
I got really busy last month but I wanted to come back and thank you!@@welfarewagonrepairs
Awesome
would this video also apply to a 2017 mitsubishi mirage -automatic
Yes sir, all 6th generation mirages 2012-2024 are very similar. If you have auto start/stop (not available in North America) then you will have an electric cvt fluid pump you may need to remove to access the side filter
Every video I see they say it was so easy to reinstall the filter, well the housing just leaks like a siv and I cannot get it to stop. I've tried everythings
Some people I’ve seen when they install they put a tear in the gasket and it leaks until they replace it. Either that or the metal tab was bent, or the bolt is not tight
What’s the difference between a 19 mm socket and breaker bar
The breaker bar is just the wrench i use. It’s called that because it does not ratchet. You can use any wrench you want the bolt won’t know 😂. If you use a very cheap ratchet it may break. But a cheap breaker bar will always work as it has no gears. The socket goes onto the breaker bar. The same socket is used for any wrench you want, breaker bar, Ratchet, torque wrench.
Any website can we get Mitsubishi manual shop
Thanks
Yes you can find the service manual here: mirageforum.com/forum/showthread.php/3720-Found-Complete-Service-Manual-amp-Wiring-Diagrams-Mirage-2015
Appreciate
@@ebrahimsadeghi5883 No problem, please consider subscribing.
Why do you say 4.35l.. Don't you mean 4.35 quarts?
The video says to use 3.2 litres in the bottom corner at 9:50 I have no idea where you get the 4.35 number from. I measured in litres as that is the unit the measuring cup I used provides. You can see in the video that 3.2 litres is exactly enough to bring the level up to the high mark.
how many liters you need to change transmission fluid ?
it shown at 16:57 in the video. If you drop the pan and change the auxiliary(paper filter) like I did you will likely also need to add 4.35 liters of fluid as I did. I recommend you measure what comes out and add that amount back in.
Thank you for watching!
What if the previous owner put the fluid in a wrong amount?
Is this manual or automatic???
automatic CVT
I would be likely to do the filter from the top. I see people with Toyotas and other Japanese vehicles having to take the wheel off to fill the CVT and other things. It just seems so absurd they would design them so you have to jump through these hoops! I had a 2013 Passat and I never had to deal with such absurd design with that! Many people make it sound like they are a money pit that only a dealer can work on and that is simply not 100% true. Sure not everyone can change everything in those out but these people make it sound like you have to hike through the mountains of Tibet to find a wise man to get anything done! What they don't realize is that all vehicles are like this now and some of them are worse even!!
Mitsubishi gearbox filter
Hi Mohammad!
I would like get ur email or instagram or Facebook to ask u please few questions about the gear oil replacement. If it’s ok of course
Hello,
Thanks for watching the video.
I would prefer if you could just ask any questions you have here for everyone to see.
How many kilometers before replacing transmission fluid of Mitsubishi G4 model 2015. Thank you in advance.