Grass Mask Ovelord i did manage to see it one time in my life from a glass roofed tourist barge similar to ones in Amsterdam sometime around 1970 on a school trip when i was in infant school. The view of the working docks was truly awe aspiring and has stayed with me for the rest of my life. I am 57 years of age but just wish our family could have afforded a roll film camera back then.
Thanks for the video. I knew the Pomona Docks well in the 1960s and 70s. These docks were built to accommodate smaller ships, - those engaged in coastal and Irish Sea trades, as opposed to the larger ocean-going ships which berthed in Salford Docks (Docks 6 - 9) downstream and around the corner. The shots from 'A Taste Of Honey' were filmed at Barton Bridge and Salford Docks and the ships shown in the film were too big to come up to Pomona Docks. During the late 60's / early 70s, No 3 Dock was adapted for roll-on / roll off heavy lift traffic, where big electrical transformers and the like from Ferranti and GEC etc were loaded on to specially-built ships for shipment round the coast to power stations etc. Another interesting traffic was Guinness from Dublin which came in their own ships up to Cornbrook Wharf, just upstream from No 1 Dock. I sailed from No 1 Dock a few times in sand barges, which used to bring sand and gravel dredged from the River Mersey off Liverpool / New Brighton. The docks finally closed in 1982. The 'North Westward Ho', by the way, was berthed at Slate Wharf, upstream from Pomona, in the early 1970s.
Yes, I find it quite sad to see the old Pomona Docks area as it is now. I'm hoping one day to compile a book about the Ship Canal and its shipping, (if I can convert my old slides to digital). If any time you have any questions about the Canal or the Docks, please let me know. - seaviewken@gmail.com
Martin you are probably the best producer on RUclips the work that goes in to making your videos is better than anything on TV. My friend you are the most informative and entertaining person on RUclips. You bring history alive. Keep up the good work
Martin,it was my uncle Albert who owns it, I worked on it in 1975 76, it used to have the kitchens at the back, all the waste got thrown out of the port holes. You could see rats running round the edge. At xmas when it got busy you could feel the boat rocking. They had a barge at the side for beer bottles and barrels it was my job to go down and bring them up, one night I had to go down and fetch grates I opened the trap door went down hearing the rats squealing ran backup up the stairs when I gust of wind Closed the hatch on my head, I broke all the bottles, lifting it up I found nails protruding through, to this day cannot believe I mist all the nails , I still remind myself after 50 years. Great times.
Fascinating but unfortunately i sence all bull shite. ...your guy didn't build the palace, it was already there. ..n your factory explosion story, with its walls clearly still intact, damaged the nearby palace structure? THE MASSIVE SOLID STONE PALACE, r u kidding, but the "smaller" Albert Hall survived the blitz? Come on pal...all cos door men wouldn't let him in a party, ha. And where's your photographic evidence of him building his palace, where's the statue to this great man, know ones never even heard of him. Surprised Brunel didn't build it. Ha ha. So I wonder the real reason it got demolished? eerrrrm...cos it doesn't fit in, cos it doesn't make any sense, cos it was to good architectural looking..cos we dont know who constucted it and what it was realy for ....cos stuff needs reseting..., cos a guy smoking his pipe? cos we carnt build anything nearly as good these days ...cos it doesn't fit the time line. Dunno... it's a mystery not history. It's clearly a made up story and was demolished on perpose, just like Dresden. And as long as people belive in this fancy full nonsense will get know where. Apart from that, great manc video. peace.
Hola Martin. Towards the end of this video. Which I loved. I was HOPING you were going to match the film locations with the video portions of A Taste of Honey. On another video where you went up stairs near a railway from the same film. That matching was so right on. The match up of The Top Centre Mooring was perfect. Thank you..We love you in California..
fantastic video Martin , I live in swinton and watch all your great vid's about Manchester and surrounding areas, I used to court a girl called linda , who lived on Almond close in Pendleton and we used to go to pamona night club back in the late70's and a great time was had . Good luck with the rest of your video career and i'll keep watching
I'm from Worsley, and live in Scotland now, with my dad. I watched and loved the Pomona Island movie. Dad remembers so much than me, of course. I'll look for more, now. Genuinely loved this in its entirety. Debbie :-)
Hi Martin remember the ship disco boat with its red engines , my hubby took me there before we married and my gosh the fun we had ! We loved it but I believe it sank ! Great video Martin .
Wonderful !! - thank you so much for this. You have done an excellent job. My father was born in Salford in 1934. He always maintained that he learnt to swim in the Pomona Docks.! He met and married my Mother and they moved out to South Cheshire. After he passed away my husband and I thought we'd bring some of his ashes back to the docks to scatter. So one rainy day in Manchester in 2020 we managed to locate the docks (I'd never seen them before) and "broke in" over the fencing, making our way to the last existing dock. - just around where you were filming - so it was great to see it on a sunny day. Not sure what to bring his ashes in we opted for an inconspicuous paper bag. We got to the waters edge to perform our ceremony. However, as we gently threw the bag of precious ashes into the river Irwell, we were horrified to suddenly find below us, appearing from nowhere, a flotilla of ducks and swans - who had obviously mistakenly took my father's ashes for a bag of something more delicious ! Fortunately as the mass of birds closed in, our paper bag and its contents sank. - and so narrowly avoided their imminent attack. Relief all round ! Though I rather think my father (a massive wildlife fan all his life) would have been laughing at ill thought plan, and the possibility that he could have ended up consumed by the eager waterfowl. On the downside, your video also served to remind me that I wished that I'd asked my father many more questions about his Salford, and dockland days, before he had passed away. Thank you again for this interesting background history all the same..
Great videos Martin. After watching this one, I set off on a little journey on foot from Wigan to Pomona Island via the Leigh branch of the Leeds Liverpool canal and onto the Bridgewater canal, to do a little exploring. It was a long trek and the light was fading on arrival, so I went back to the Lost Island of Pomona again the following day with my daughter. This time in the car, with a shorter walk from Stretford. Thanks for educating me about this place. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Great viddy, I live 2 minutes walk from here and just a few things I’ve learnt are: 1. The Cornbrook River ends by falling into the docks at Pomona. It travels under the Bridgewater Canal, remains covered and the only sign of it is a hole on the side of the dock in which it pours out. 2. There are many tunnels under Pomona which were used whilst the area was used as a dock, I’d be interested to see if any of the recent development has uncovered these tunnels. 3. From Pomona if you follow the Irwell towards the city, you get to Hulme Hall Road, named so because once there was a great Manor House, Hulme Hall on the banks of the Irwell. It was destroyed to make way for the canals and railways.
Hello, I do know of the tunnels unfortunately one of the entrances is now a building site. The Cornbrook also makes a brief appearance at the side of the Bridgewater canal at James Brindleys weir. Great info thanks 👍
Martin Zero I only know the tunnels existed, I have no idea where the entrance was. Do you think the developments will disturb them are are they deep enough to remain intact?
I'm so greatful that you made this video. I had the oppertunity to visit here recently and your video gave me clear bearings to where I was. It's badly over grown now and nature is deffinately reclaiming it although they are building homes there now, it has a haunting feel about it when you see the disused office block and stairwells, over flowing litter bins and broken street lights. It's sad they never placed a memorial to those lives lost.
Another brilliant appraisal of our recent history that you just can't find in books with the guided tour that enables you to picture and place that history. Many thanks Martin.
My Dad just discovered your work. Keep on it! We're from Middlesbrough but I moved to Manchester in 2010. Absolutely fascinating history and I love that you're putting this stuff out there. Dad loves to come to Manchester and see the hidden history of the place. We're going to have a lot more to explore because of these videos.
Love catching up on your vids. So much historical info. A few of my cousins worked at Colgate Palmolive in the 70's and I think 80's. They brought home so much soap etc. I have never been so clean and fresh smelling. Especially now at 64 😊
Your films remind me so much of the history of my town, Newcastle NSW, Australia.. We made steel here for a hundred years. All gone now. Just toxic pollution and government neglect to remember it by. The black and white photos you include here are like a time warp back to my childhood. Keep up the great work mate.
Sir - your informative historical videos just keep getting better and better. That one has left me speechless. The aerial shots and the haunting music...pure genius
Thank you so much for a insight of old Manchester. As I am Manchester born brought up in moss side worked for NCl delivering parcels for British rail old Watson St deans gate. Then transfered to Mayfield St. A lot of the places you have shown I remember takes me back with a nice smile thanks again. Of Chester Rd near the Manchester regiment pub there is a long set of arches railway ones there is the arch going to the Guinness dock as you drove through the arch on the right hand side there was a reproduction copy of the rocket.made by apprentices at longsight British rail work shops I seen it 1971 with a driver as I was a van lad.it was fully rusted up wondering what happened to the rocket.
Brilliant, I remember going to the ship pub in the early 80s, it was a decent place but the walk to it from the main road was grim, down dark semi derelict streets.
This man Martin Zero, what a brilliant historian, he certainly does his homework, what a brilliant presenter, i watched one of his video's on youtube about Cadishead railway station, i lived just around the corner from that station and was amazed what was there, What are you playing at Granada television !!!!!!!!!! snap this man up and give him his own series on the history of Manchester to which you Granada tv are part of. Tremendous well done from me to Martin Zero, i will be watching your other vids, keep up this facinating work.
Martin love your videos,lived in manchester in the early eighties,with my then very young manchester husband, i was from london. We woud walk some sundays through manchester looking at the old buildings,getting drunk in some of the old pubs,crawling home at teatime.i will never forget my time up there i am 60 now manchester has a part of my heart.thankyou martin.
Thank you Martin absolutely brilliant not lived in Manchester since 1961 but a real home person that I miss it so much I grew up in Old Trafford when Trafford Park was booming still would love to come home again and live if I will look you up, thank you again
Just watched your video about pomona island in 2020,so its probably a bit late to see what you saw,good video really enjoyed it,i wish i could have seen this video earlier,stay safe❤👍
One of the things the me struck about this video is how the history of Pomona is largely missing from the Manchester history books I have. Where it is mentioned it is a reference to Bellue Vue as competition. How strange some of Manchester leading authors of Mancunian history simply gloss over The Royal Pomona Palace. The significance of this island is huge. Of course watching this video made it really hit home. There is nothing structural left to indicate how vast the palace was. Also I love all three songs you have in the video it sets the mood and really makes it and whimsical very nostalgic.
Very interesting video. I've used the tram from Piccadilly to Media City many times and often wondered about the origin of the name "Pomona".Loved watching this.👍
A taste of Honey is a fantastic film, one of my fav. I think Martin should be made an ambassador for Manchester. Thumbs up if you agree!! Nothing I like more then a few glasses of vino and a martin zero vid binge. Love it. I don't even live in Manchester or anywhere near but Martin makes Manchester a fabulous place to visit with an amazing history and culture which Martin brings to life with every vid. Cheers dude. Love love love it. You are a very special bloke. Keep it up. Xx
@@MartinZero I'm from Newcastle upon Tyne which is a lot smaller then Manchester but has a lot of history and places to explore. Its a fab city but I may be biased lol
I live 20 mins from here and never knew of the Pamona Palace, must go and see for myself before it is gone forever, love your style just binge watching your videos absolutely brilliant
Nice easy going little film,immensely interesting,TV should snap this guy up as he shows his passion for the area.a weekly programme like this would be a hit.!
Absolutely fascinating film so thank you Martin. There is one particular bit in this film that made me sit up. You mentioned the Queens Jester, William Wallett. Well WF Wallett was from Beeston, Nottinghamshire where we live, and the road we live on bears his name! Coincidently the reason I watch your videos and find them facinating is because I was born in Manchester and alot of my family were from various places including Sale. So to have another small connection was very interesting.
I live a world away but have family roots in England and Ireland. Your videos are highly useful and great content. Thanks so much. From Bakersfield California USA.
WOW, What a great Video, i enjoyed every bit of it, I now live in the New Forest but was born and raised in Ashton -Under-Lyne, with relations in Manchester, Grandma and granddad, you took me back in time and gave me loads of interesting information about mine and Lancashires past. ive subscribed to your Vlog and hope you keep up your fantastic historical work, History needs people like you, Well done, Great Job , Hope you can manage to keep up your great historical work, FANTASTIC JOB. Live long and prosper, Regards Barry :)
A brilliant video Martin ( love the chair ) Agree 100% . My last update was that Peel holdings are building on there .Seems many groups tried to fight the planning on environmental grounds but , surprise , surprise were squashed .What's new .Bad enough to trash the nature side but what is the killer for me is that none of the real estate will be affordable housing .Be sold to the wealthy from over seas on a buy to let basis ......Tragic what has happened but even more tragic was is due to happen .... Lovely work * .Helena
Thank you Helena. Your correct on all counts. I was filming those little birds and thought of you. I tried to get more birds in but elusive to my camera 😀👍
a very different video from the wonderfull Martin Zero but i watched every second with interest, very informative. Excellent to watch and absorb all the history of this almost forgotten place.......
What a wonderful film! It's astonishing that no trace whatsoever remains of the Pomona Palace. It's so interesting to learn the history of the place and you've certainly put a lot of work into it! I used to go to the disco ship in the 1970s but if you were to ask me where it was now I haven't a clue! I can't remember how I used to get to it from Sale. Oddly enough I don't remember the aeroplane being there but I do remember the slippery and wonky floors inside the ship and how everybody was always falling over. Nothing to do with the drink of course.....😉 Another great video, so glad I stumbled across your site yesterday x
@@MartinZero Yes that would be amazing! I wonder if they'll find anything when they dig the foundations for all those apartments they're supposed to be putting on there....
I have only just discovered your videos Martin. So very interesting and enjoyable. I don’t know Manchester at all but even so, I find the information you uncover fascinating, especially when backed by old maps and photos. Thank you so much.
Brilliant, really interesting video. Didn’t know even where Pomona Island was even though I’ve walked past that lock and mooring point 3 many times on the Bridgewater Canal. Many thanks
Martin you should consider being a full time Manchester guide .... and is it happy new drone .... I can remember having a few pints in the old Pomona pub circa 1971...keep up the good work regards.barry
great video lad, i used to play around the plane and boat when it was there, my dad and his business partner had a garage in one of the arches on hume hall road number 55a, called them selves Bell and Donnelly. was tradeing for many years until they both retired. some great memories.........
I used to enjoy Fred Talbots (Where's Fred) slots on Granada reports. Well Fred is otherwise engaged now so I think ITV should give you a similar role. How does "Martins Meanderings" sound?
I was thinking along similar lines John. Such a rich treasure trove of well presented information would fit in with educational history programmes in schools/BBC/ITV etc. Martin's entire series has been an eye opener for me, and I dare say it would be welcome to a much wider audience. It would also give well deserved recognition to Martin for this ongoing, excellent body of work.
My Mum who died in 1996 would have loved your videos. She lived near the Salford docks and was bombed out three times during the war. I'm really sorry I can't watch them with her. I was really thinking hard why I knew the word "Pomona" . Only when you said Pomona Docks did it click. I remember hearing it when I was just a scrap of a lad in Salford in the '50s. Thanks for the memories and a lovely bit of history.
Really enjoyed the film. Been there countless times on my bike and never knew about the house and gardens. It’s a nice walk through there from caslefield to Salford quays.
I've just re-watched this. It's such a great story and you tell it really well. I've always loved your title photo: if you ever released an album, this is the cover!
Great video yet again Martin If I recall you got to the Westwood Ho just up from mancunian way towards white city. There's a small row of shops on left the road opposite went down to the Westwood don't know if they are still there but there were signs on some of the walls and bridges. The swing bridge in the video I remember seeing the fire brigade in 1976 hosing it down so they could open and close it because it was stuck as it had expanded with the heat.
Martin Zero hi Martin yes I spent hours with me mates watching them do that one and Barton it would be all over the news cause traffic could not get past.
Well told stories of where I lived before moving to Canada wished I could have explored the canals and waterways more as a child. But find myself drawn to your stories of days gone by. Keep up the good work.
Absolutely fascinating! A beautifully produced and incredibly well-researched documentation of a place I've lived in close proximity to (Clippers Quay) for almost 15 years, yet (until now!) knew so little of its history! So happy to have found your channel - thank you!
I've watched quite a few of your videos over time and I must say the footage and presentation is excellent and highly informative! Well done, keep up the great work!
Brilliant film Martin, I have had a lifelong fascintaion with Manchester (Pomona) docks and Salford docks, I made many visits down to both when Salford quays was first developed and you could still see 'three' Pomona docks. My Dad took me to the wharf on the canal when I was very small and a Naval Submarine was berthed there, very intersting stuff, keep up the great work pal!
Martin thank you for a great video, I can still see the Guinness tanker ship going though Trafford ROad swing bridge toward Pamona docks to disagorge. it’s Guinness. My job first application on leaving school was at the fling angel
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Very well researched - professionally presented - If only history were taught like that in my school days
These videos always make me wish i could go back and just see these sights in person.
Me to, me to. I long to see it.....😩
Grass Mask Ovelord i did manage to see it one time in my life from a glass roofed tourist barge similar to ones in Amsterdam sometime around 1970 on a school trip when i was in infant school. The view of the working docks was truly awe aspiring and has stayed with me for the rest of my life. I am 57 years of age but just wish our family could have afforded a roll film camera back then.
Sounds like it definitely left it's Mark on you.
LOVE THE PASSION FOR THE HISTORY OF MANCHESTER ................. " GREAT JOB "
Thanks for the video. I knew the Pomona Docks well in the 1960s and 70s. These docks were built to accommodate smaller ships, - those engaged in coastal and Irish Sea trades, as opposed to the larger ocean-going ships which berthed in Salford Docks (Docks 6 - 9) downstream and around the corner. The shots from 'A Taste Of Honey' were filmed at Barton Bridge and Salford Docks and the ships shown in the film were too big to come up to Pomona Docks. During the late 60's / early 70s, No 3 Dock was adapted for roll-on / roll off heavy lift traffic, where big electrical transformers and the like from Ferranti and GEC etc were loaded on to specially-built ships for shipment round the coast to power stations etc. Another interesting traffic was Guinness from Dublin which came in their own ships up to Cornbrook Wharf, just upstream from No 1 Dock. I sailed from No 1 Dock a few times in sand barges, which used to bring sand and gravel dredged from the River Mersey off Liverpool / New Brighton. The docks finally closed in 1982.
The 'North Westward Ho', by the way, was berthed at Slate Wharf, upstream from Pomona, in the early 1970s.
Thanks Ken for the Info. Very interesting. I would of loved to have seen the Docks as they were in the 60's Thank you
Yes, I find it quite sad to see the old Pomona Docks area as it is now. I'm hoping one day to compile a book about the Ship Canal and its shipping, (if I can convert my old slides to digital). If any time you have any questions about the Canal or the Docks, please let me know. - seaviewken@gmail.com
Thank you Ken. You must do the book and let me know. Slides to digital I think is easily done. I am interested in The Bridgewater and Rochdale canals
James Brindley's weir
Ken do you remember the stench from the soap works???
Martin you are probably the best producer on RUclips the work that goes in to making your videos is better than anything on TV. My friend you are the most informative and entertaining person on RUclips. You bring history alive. Keep up the good work
Martin,it was my uncle Albert who owns it, I worked on it in 1975 76, it used to have the kitchens at the back, all the waste got thrown out of the port holes. You could see rats running round the edge. At xmas when it got busy you could feel the boat rocking. They had a barge at the side for beer bottles and barrels it was my job to go down and bring them up, one night I had to go down and fetch grates I opened the trap door went down hearing the rats squealing ran backup up the stairs when I gust of wind Closed the hatch on my head, I broke all the bottles, lifting it up I found nails protruding through, to this day cannot believe I mist all the nails , I still remind myself after 50 years. Great times.
Fascinating film Martin,you put such a lot of work into these.Thanks for making,much appreciated-better than the telly anyday
Mike thank you so much, means a lot 👍
YES .... These clearly take a lot of planning , and carrying out.
Informative and enjoyable, just great !
T.V. Is doomed with this quality of video, who needs them, well done Martin.
exactly
Fascinating but unfortunately i sence all bull shite. ...your guy didn't build the palace, it was already there. ..n your factory explosion story, with its walls clearly still intact, damaged the nearby palace structure? THE MASSIVE SOLID STONE PALACE, r u kidding, but the "smaller" Albert Hall survived the blitz? Come on pal...all cos door men wouldn't let him in a party, ha. And where's your photographic evidence of him building his palace, where's the statue to this great man, know ones never even heard of him. Surprised Brunel didn't build it. Ha ha. So I wonder the real reason it got demolished? eerrrrm...cos it doesn't fit in, cos it doesn't make any sense, cos it was to good architectural looking..cos we dont know who constucted it and what it was realy for ....cos stuff needs reseting..., cos a guy smoking his pipe? cos we carnt build anything nearly as good these days ...cos it doesn't fit the time line. Dunno... it's a mystery not history. It's clearly a made up story and was demolished on perpose, just like Dresden. And as long as people belive in this fancy full nonsense will get know where. Apart from that, great manc video. peace.
Hola Martin. Towards the end of this video. Which I loved. I was HOPING you were going to match the film locations with the video portions of A Taste of Honey. On another video where you went up stairs near a railway from the same film. That matching was so right on. The match up of The Top Centre Mooring was perfect. Thank you..We love you in California..
Thanks very much Lawrence
fantastic video Martin , I live in swinton and watch all your great vid's about Manchester and surrounding areas, I used to court a girl called linda , who lived on Almond close in Pendleton and we used to go to pamona night club back in the late70's and a great time was had . Good luck with the rest of your video career and i'll keep watching
i watched this first in 2018 i have been hooked on your documentaries ever since
I'm from Worsley, and live in Scotland now, with my dad. I watched and loved the Pomona Island movie. Dad remembers so much than me, of course. I'll look for more, now. Genuinely loved this in its entirety. Debbie :-)
The video editing is sublime in this one, really top class documentary style. Had me engrossed as usual, thanks.
Hi Martin remember the ship disco boat with its red engines , my hubby took me there before we married and my gosh the fun we had ! We loved it but I believe it sank ! Great video Martin .
Oh the Westward Ho. Sounds fab
It didn't sink, it went to Liverpool then ended up on the themes. I was a dj there, glad you enjoyed it.
Wonderful !! - thank you so much for this. You have done an excellent job. My father was born in Salford in 1934. He always maintained that he learnt to swim in the Pomona Docks.! He met and married my Mother and they moved out to South Cheshire. After he passed away my husband and I thought we'd bring some of his ashes back to the docks to scatter. So one rainy day in Manchester in 2020 we managed to locate the docks (I'd never seen them before) and "broke in" over the fencing, making our way to the last existing dock. - just around where you were filming - so it was great to see it on a sunny day. Not sure what to bring his ashes in we opted for an inconspicuous paper bag. We got to the waters edge to perform our ceremony. However, as we gently threw the bag of precious ashes into the river Irwell, we were horrified to suddenly find below us, appearing from nowhere, a flotilla of ducks and swans - who had obviously mistakenly took my father's ashes for a bag of something more delicious ! Fortunately as the mass of birds closed in, our paper bag and its contents sank. - and so narrowly avoided their imminent attack. Relief all round ! Though I rather think my father (a massive wildlife fan all his life) would have been laughing at ill thought plan, and the possibility that he could have ended up consumed by the eager waterfowl. On the downside, your video also served to remind me that I wished that I'd asked my father many more questions about his Salford, and dockland days, before he had passed away. Thank you again for this interesting background history all the same..
Great videos Martin. After watching this one, I set off on a little journey on foot from Wigan to Pomona Island via the Leigh branch of the Leeds Liverpool canal and onto the Bridgewater canal, to do a little exploring. It was a long trek and the light was fading on arrival, so I went back to the Lost Island of Pomona again the following day with my daughter. This time in the car, with a shorter walk from Stretford. Thanks for educating me about this place. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Great viddy, I live 2 minutes walk from here and just a few things I’ve learnt are:
1. The Cornbrook River ends by falling into the docks at Pomona. It travels under the Bridgewater Canal, remains covered and the only sign of it is a hole on the side of the dock in which it pours out.
2. There are many tunnels under Pomona which were used whilst the area was used as a dock, I’d be interested to see if any of the recent development has uncovered these tunnels.
3. From Pomona if you follow the Irwell towards the city, you get to Hulme Hall Road, named so because once there was a great Manor House, Hulme Hall on the banks of the Irwell. It was destroyed to make way for the canals and railways.
Hello, I do know of the tunnels unfortunately one of the entrances is now a building site. The Cornbrook also makes a brief appearance at the side of the Bridgewater canal at James Brindleys weir. Great info thanks 👍
Martin Zero I only know the tunnels existed, I have no idea where the entrance was. Do you think the developments will disturb them are are they deep enough to remain intact?
I think they have already disturbed them, I dont think they were that deep.
I'm so greatful that you made this video. I had the oppertunity to visit here recently and your video gave me clear bearings to where I was. It's badly over grown now and nature is deffinately reclaiming it although they are building homes there now, it has a haunting feel about it when you see the disused office block and stairwells, over flowing litter bins and broken street lights. It's sad they never placed a memorial to those lives lost.
Another brilliant appraisal of our recent history that you just can't find in books with the guided tour that enables you to picture and place that history. Many thanks Martin.
Thank you 👍🏻
My Dad just discovered your work. Keep on it! We're from Middlesbrough but I moved to Manchester in 2010. Absolutely fascinating history and I love that you're putting this stuff out there. Dad loves to come to Manchester and see the hidden history of the place. We're going to have a lot more to explore because of these videos.
Fantastic, thanks, Martin, you're a star.
Love catching up on your vids. So much historical info. A few of my cousins worked at Colgate Palmolive in the 70's and I think 80's. They brought home so much soap etc. I have never been so clean and fresh smelling. Especially now at 64 😊
Your films remind me so much of the history of my town, Newcastle NSW, Australia.. We made steel here for a hundred years. All gone now. Just toxic pollution and government neglect to remember it by. The black and white photos you include here are like a time warp back to my childhood. Keep up the great work mate.
Thank you very much Nick
Sir - your informative historical videos just keep getting better and better. That one has left me speechless. The aerial shots and the haunting music...pure genius
Thank you, yes I did love using that music
Thank you so much for a insight of old Manchester. As I am Manchester born brought up in moss side worked for NCl delivering parcels for British rail old Watson St deans gate. Then transfered to Mayfield St. A lot of the places you have shown I remember takes me back with a nice smile thanks again. Of Chester Rd near the Manchester regiment pub there is a long set of arches railway ones there is the arch going to the Guinness dock as you drove through the arch on the right hand side there was a reproduction copy of the rocket.made by apprentices at longsight British rail work shops I seen it 1971 with a driver as I was a van lad.it was fully rusted up wondering what happened to the rocket.
Another great informative video mate. Superb stuff . Great background music also. Keep em coming . Regards.....Brendan...
Brilliant, I remember going to the ship pub in the early 80s, it was a decent place but the walk to it from the main road was grim, down dark semi derelict streets.
Yeah the place is a bit threatening now at times. Cheers Stephen
This man Martin Zero, what a brilliant historian, he certainly does his homework, what a brilliant presenter, i watched one of his video's on youtube about Cadishead railway station, i lived just around the corner from that station and was amazed what was there, What are you playing at Granada television !!!!!!!!!! snap this man up and give him his own series on the history of Manchester to which you Granada tv are part of.
Tremendous well done from me to Martin Zero, i will be watching your other vids, keep up this facinating work.
Martin love your videos,lived in manchester in the early eighties,with my then very young manchester husband, i was from london. We woud walk some sundays through manchester looking at the old buildings,getting drunk in some of the old pubs,crawling home at teatime.i will never forget my time up there i am 60 now manchester has a part of my heart.thankyou martin.
I hope these history videos are being shown to the Manchester schools.
No chance of that I'm afraid. The elite don't want us to have a proud history of ourselves anymore.
Thank you Martin absolutely brilliant not lived in Manchester since 1961 but a real home person that I miss it so much I grew up in Old Trafford when Trafford Park was booming still would love to come home again and live if I will look you up, thank you again
Just watched your video about pomona island in 2020,so its probably a bit late to see what you saw,good video really enjoyed it,i wish i could have seen this video earlier,stay safe❤👍
One of the things the me struck about this video is how the history of Pomona is largely missing from the Manchester history books I have. Where it is mentioned it is a reference to Bellue Vue as competition. How strange some of Manchester leading authors of Mancunian history simply gloss over The Royal Pomona Palace. The significance of this island is huge. Of course watching this video made it really hit home. There is nothing structural left to indicate how vast the palace was. Also I love all three songs you have in the video it sets the mood and really makes it and whimsical very nostalgic.
I find the history fascinating Martin. Makes a big difference to videos with just music, really enjoying watching and listening to all your videos.
Well done Martin, you are a worthy chronicler of the history of the fine city that is Manchester... thank you.
Thank you
Amazing video - A really useful local history resource #fab
Always an education from you Martin. Thanks again. Well worth the watch
Absolutely brilliant. Well researched and beautifully presented
Allways brilliant Martin sad but brilliant thanks 😊
Very interesting video. I've used the tram from Piccadilly to Media City many times and often wondered about the origin of the name "Pomona".Loved watching this.👍
Things come and things go . Thanks Martin for bringing to past back for us .
You are wonderful at explaining things.
And make things very interesting.
Thank you.
Great film A Taste of Honey
A taste of Honey is a fantastic film, one of my fav. I think Martin should be made an ambassador for Manchester. Thumbs up if you agree!! Nothing I like more then a few glasses of vino and a martin zero vid binge. Love it. I don't even live in Manchester or anywhere near but Martin makes Manchester a fabulous place to visit with an amazing history and culture which Martin brings to life with every vid. Cheers dude. Love love love it. You are a very special bloke. Keep it up. Xx
Thanks George your very kind. Really appreciate the support and am glad your liking the vids. Where are you from
@@MartinZero I'm from Newcastle upon Tyne which is a lot smaller then Manchester but has a lot of history and places to explore. Its a fab city but I may be biased lol
Lovely video! Well put together!
100% educational and entertaining. Thank you 😃
Thanks very much ✌
Brilliant mate. Love your work. Love Taste of honey. Manchester is always changing, pride in is past present and future.
Thanks Bernie
I live 20 mins from here and never knew of the Pamona Palace, must go and see for myself before it is gone forever, love your style just binge watching your videos absolutely brilliant
Thank you Jo
So fascinating. TOP VIDEO. Loved all of it told some friend. I’m in withington I love all your content Martin.
Absolutely love this, keep up the great work and great to see a local lad bringing the history of the city to life and with such passion too. 👍👍👍
An absolutely fascinating video. Left me wanting to see more. Thank you so much. 🙏 !!!
Thanks Marilyn
Very Interesting, Very Awesome
Nice easy going little film,immensely interesting,TV should snap this guy up as he shows his passion for the area.a weekly programme like this would be a hit.!
Hi Garth many thanks. Its an amazing place when you know its history 👍🏼
Just found this video. So interesting and brilliantly presented.. Martin you are the man. Catching up with all your videos now. Thank you.
Absolutely fascinating film so thank you Martin. There is one particular bit in this film that made me sit up. You mentioned the Queens Jester, William Wallett. Well WF Wallett was from Beeston, Nottinghamshire where we live, and the road we live on bears his name! Coincidently the reason I watch your videos and find them facinating is because I was born in Manchester and alot of my family were from various places including Sale. So to have another small connection was very interesting.
brilliant. you tell an excellent story. huge thanks. Very much enjoyed watching this video.
Thank you
So interesting. Used to go dancing on the ship. Never realised the history! Thank you.
This wax absolutely fantastic.
Thanks
What a sad story....thanks Martin,and the docks, and Taste of Honey, amazing another winner sir !!!
Thanks Simon, yeah it is a bit of a sad story really
I live a world away but have family roots in England and Ireland. Your videos are highly useful and great content. Thanks so much. From Bakersfield California USA.
Thank you best regards to Bakersfield
fascinating history of manchester well worth subscibing to your channel my dad told me about the pomona
when i was a kid im 60 this year
Loved this Martin so good,onwards.👌💪💪
Mate your best video so far, fantastic! Great story, great presentation and easy to follow!
Thanks very much 😀
And what about the 'Cornbrook' video ? I change trams there and never knew the story of the brook and how the metro station gets its name. Fascinating
WOW, What a great Video, i enjoyed every bit of it, I now live in the New Forest but was born and raised in Ashton -Under-Lyne,
with relations in Manchester, Grandma and granddad,
you took me back in time and gave me loads of interesting information about mine and Lancashires past.
ive subscribed to your Vlog and hope you keep up your fantastic historical work, History needs people like you,
Well done, Great Job , Hope you can manage to keep up your great historical work, FANTASTIC JOB.
Live long and prosper, Regards Barry :)
A brilliant video Martin ( love the chair ) Agree 100% . My last update was that Peel holdings are building on there .Seems many groups tried to fight the planning on environmental grounds but , surprise , surprise were squashed .What's new .Bad enough to trash the nature side but what is the killer for me is that none of the real estate will be affordable housing .Be sold to the wealthy from over seas on a buy to let basis ......Tragic what has happened but even more tragic was is due to happen .... Lovely work * .Helena
Thank you Helena. Your correct on all counts. I was filming those little birds and thought of you. I tried to get more birds in but elusive to my camera 😀👍
Great video Martin, I am sure you could get a spot on tv showing your videos. Thank you👍
Thanks David 👍
Martin this is really superb interesting & well shot video. Well done mate 🏆
a very different video from the wonderfull Martin Zero but i watched every second with interest, very informative. Excellent to watch and absorb all the history of this almost forgotten place.......
Thank you Chris
What a wonderful film! It's astonishing that no trace whatsoever remains of the Pomona Palace. It's so interesting to learn the history of the place and you've certainly put a lot of work into it! I used to go to the disco ship in the 1970s but if you were to ask me where it was now I haven't a clue! I can't remember how I used to get to it from Sale. Oddly enough I don't remember the aeroplane being there but I do remember the slippery and wonky floors inside the ship and how everybody was always falling over. Nothing to do with the drink of course.....😉 Another great video, so glad I stumbled across your site yesterday x
Thank you. Imagine being able to find remains of the palace 👌
@@MartinZero Yes that would be amazing! I wonder if they'll find anything when they dig the foundations for all those apartments they're supposed to be putting on there....
Absolutely adore this channel, only recently found. Learning some of this lost history of my city is great, gives me great pride. Thank you Martin!
Thank you Ryan 👍🏼
Your hard work I see is a passion.theis is reflected in the quality of content you always include,the.
I have only just discovered your videos Martin. So very interesting and enjoyable. I don’t know Manchester at all but even so, I find the information you uncover fascinating, especially when backed by old maps and photos. Thank you so much.
Well researched and very interesting. It must have been fabulous in its day. Thanks Martin
Thank you Nikki, yeah would have loved to seen it
Brilliant, really interesting video. Didn’t know even where Pomona Island was even though I’ve walked past that lock and mooring point 3 many times on the Bridgewater Canal. Many thanks
Martin you should consider being a full time Manchester guide .... and is it happy new drone .... I can remember having a few pints in the old Pomona pub circa 1971...keep up the good work regards.barry
Hi Barry thanks very much. No the drone footage was from 2017 mixed in with some from my mates drone last week. The Pomona pub 👍
great video lad, i used to play around the plane and boat when it was there, my dad and his business partner had a garage in one of the arches on hume hall road number 55a, called them selves Bell and Donnelly. was tradeing for many years until they both retired. some great memories.........
That great big green space should be preserved as a park for the enjoyment and repose of the people and wildlife of Manchester..
I used to enjoy Fred Talbots (Where's Fred) slots on Granada reports. Well Fred is otherwise engaged now so I think ITV should give you a similar role. How does "Martins Meanderings" sound?
Sounds good. I shudder though at the Fred Talbot link 😆
Martins Mooches?
I was thinking along similar lines John. Such a rich treasure trove of well presented information would fit in with educational history programmes in schools/BBC/ITV etc. Martin's entire series has been an eye opener for me, and I dare say it would be welcome to a much wider audience. It would also give well deserved recognition to Martin for this ongoing, excellent body of work.
My Mum who died in 1996 would have loved your videos. She lived near the Salford docks and was bombed out three times during the war. I'm really sorry I can't watch them with her. I was really thinking hard why I knew the word "Pomona" . Only when you said Pomona Docks did it click. I remember hearing it when I was just a scrap of a lad in Salford in the '50s. Thanks for the memories and a lovely bit of history.
The less said about Fred Talbot's slot the better
And what have we got for tonight? Twenty years.
This brought tears to my eyes, Martin. Thank you so much for this. ❤️
Thank you Allan glad you enjoyed it
@@MartinZero you do great work.
Really enjoyed the film. Been there countless times on my bike and never knew about the house and gardens. It’s a nice walk through there from caslefield to Salford quays.
Must admit I had never even heard of it till a few years ago. Thanks very much
Excellent video Martin, I've since visited after watching this, thanks for the idea
I've just re-watched this. It's such a great story and you tell it really well. I've always loved your title photo: if you ever released an album, this is the cover!
I would love to see that on an album cover Pete
Fascinating video, thank you Martin.
Great video yet again Martin
If I recall you got to the Westwood Ho just up from mancunian way towards white city. There's a small row of shops on left the road opposite went down to the Westwood don't know if they are still there but there were signs on some of the walls and bridges.
The swing bridge in the video I remember seeing the fire brigade in 1976 hosing it down so they could open and close it because it was stuck as it had expanded with the heat.
Hello again, bloody hell the hot summer of 76 eh, that must have been good to watch 👌
Martin Zero hi Martin yes I spent hours with me mates watching them do that one and Barton it would be all over the news cause traffic could not get past.
What a bloody excellent video. Really really interesting. Well done....
Thanks very much Ross 👍
Well told stories of where I lived before moving to Canada wished I could have explored the canals and waterways more as a child. But find myself drawn to your stories of days gone by. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Hugh
Another great video Martin! Such rich history behind an anonymous patch of land that most people wouldn't look twice at.
Thanks Ian, yes I love that place and its history
Imagine if they rebuilt a botanical garden on Pomona island, instead of boring flats.
It would have been a brilliant opportunity. So much wildlife around there
But instead, they're just going to rebuild Picadilly gardens, like that will keep unsavoury characters away
Absolutely fascinating! A beautifully produced and incredibly well-researched documentation of a place I've lived in close proximity to (Clippers Quay) for almost 15 years, yet (until now!) knew so little of its history! So happy to have found your channel - thank you!
Thank you
wow so amazing ..the history on my door step ..thanks martin :)
very interesting watch, where your stood at the end of the video now stand, as you said new apartments
What a great video. Best by far great pics and great drone shots.
Thanks Kyle mate 👍
Another great manchester production, Cheers Martin 🐝🐝
Hello John and thank you 👍
An interesting, well-researched and presented piece of history.
Hello Judith thanks so much
Very interesting. Thank you
I've watched quite a few of your videos over time and I must say the footage and presentation is excellent and highly informative! Well done, keep up the great work!
Why are you not on nw tonight? This is brilliant!
excellent history of madchester
Wonderful video
Brilliant film Martin, I have had a lifelong fascintaion with Manchester (Pomona) docks and Salford docks, I made many visits down to both when Salford quays was first developed and you could still see 'three' Pomona docks. My Dad took me to the wharf on the canal when I was very small and a Naval Submarine was berthed there, very intersting stuff, keep up the great work pal!
Hi David, thank you very much and I am very envious of you seeing it back then 👍
If it was about 1950 ,that was my first visit to the docks too.
Martin thank you for a great video, I can still see the Guinness tanker ship going though Trafford ROad swing bridge toward Pamona docks to disagorge. it’s Guinness. My job first application on leaving school was at the fling angel
Yet another fantastic video. I love Manchester and the history of Manchester. You bring it alive.