Lots of good points here. But here’s an absolutely fact for me. I’m T1D and know exactly how much insulin I take. Eating the same cals in Oreos for a week = weight gain. Eating the same cals in beef for a week = weight loss. The only difference in the two weeks is my total daily insulin dose. I take 1 u insulin for every 10 carbs. I need 1 u insulin for every 3 G protein I eat (gluconeogenesis).
I think if you aim for "no sugar" and miss, and occasionally have sugar, you are way better off than if you aim for regular intake of sugar "in moderation" and miss.
Justin was my nutrition coach back in 2018/19 and I remember distinctly having periods of time where he had me completely eliminate processed foods all together, with an eventual reintroduction in specific quantities specifically timed around my workouts. I’m not an elite athlete but I’ve never been more fit in my life and my body comp was the best it’s ever been. I had a great experience working with Justin. He never advocated for eating junk food/sugar, always nutrient dense foods. I’m guessing his approach to allowing people to consume sugar is all based on the individual and the individual’s lifestyle. I can only speak from my experience.
There was no mention of inflammation and other harmful effects that sugar causes in the body. Thinking just straight up calories is too simplistic of a view...
Your Body doesn‘t give a shit where your carbohydrates come from if it is sugar or a potato. Inflammation is something people come up with when they have no scientfic literature backing them up. It‘s just BS.
People use inflammation as a massive excuse….even an inflamed person will loose weight regardless that may have a lot of unwanted side effects, that are there regardless. Cut down to 20% and your bloated / sore joints ok you have a case. If you’re overweight and inflamed it’s not low calories it’s the fact you’re fat
I recently read a book called "Ultra-Processed People" that has me thinking we should replace the phrase zero sugar w/ zero "ultra processed foods." There's a reason grapes are better than lab created edible substances that are generally engineered to be over consumed (and there's lots of evidence connecting those lab engineered molecules to cancer.) I HIGHLY recommend the book. Valuable perspective on this topic.
Here's a true story: had a nutrition client cancel with me 3 weeks after signing up because she saw some meme account post about CBG. Not only did she pay a lot more with them, she also gained weight. Gaining weight was the opposite of her goal.
@@fusiongains this has happened in reverse to us several times. As a coach I’m sure you know some people have a difficult time changing their habits. I’m not sure of the details of this client but I’m happy to look through this if you sent me a private message. I can assure you one thing. We would never sign up a client that was actively successful with another coach. We respect all coaches in the industry trying to do well for their clients and have a passion for helping.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 you guys can have her. You as a company pay or give free nutrition to athletes and influencers, and that's your marketing. It's not a dumb plan. But if I have a member that falls for that instead of working with me, when I see them day to day, have gotten great results for the other members they see everyday, then I'm happy to send them on their way.
This is why Greg started the broken science initiative Also this seems like why Dave Ramsey doesn’t give an inch on no debt. Just like Andrew said “if you give an inch they take a mile”
Eating sugar in exercise terms is lying on the couch. Over time biochemical systems forget how to work with almost anything else and are handicapped. So we need to get them off the comfy couch and “moving“: working the body as the versatile complex biochemical system that it is. It takes a lot of digestive work to get nutrients from whole foods. The chewing, the digestion, the absorption, all the biochemical transformations in different organs and parts of the cell. And it takes much less work to get stuff out of ultra-processed foods, when they're "predigested" in a way that's way more than normal cooking. The mitochondria need to have the skill to switch energy substrates, maintain glucose levels by breaking down what the body has, juggling all the different catabolic pathways of different nutrients instead of just supplying more "fast" substrates. Processing simple carbohydrates inhibits other reactions on a biochemical level and shifts the balance away. Over time the mitochondria lose the biochemical "skills" to juggle all the conflicting molecular signals, intermediate compounds (some of which are harmful) and just fail. So calories are way too simplified. We're not combustion engines that produce heat and burn everything the same way. So no, broccoli is not sugar and the idea that "everything is sugar" is just wrong and "calories in, calories out" is more oversimplified than "sugar is bad".
5:42 NO you breathe it out as co2. 84% leaves the body as co2 the rest leaves as h2o. When you burn fuel, fat or carbs they are chains of carbon with energy. We measure the energy in calories. When the energy is used the spent carbon is travels from the cell with the help of oxygen that we breathe in. It becomes co2 ( 1 carbon 2 oxygen) and we breathe it out. Thats why when we exercise we breath heavier, we need more o2 to clear more carbons because we are using more fuel, therefore create more spent carbon. You can measure the co2, to find out fuel source and energy expenditure. Every breath we take we lose a little mass. I’m pretty sure Hiller knew this and was being polite to his guest.
I used to nutrition coach for many years and I biggest regret was not telling people to stop eating like an unsupervised child. I should have had a F#$ck your feelings approach as feelings do not care you are fat.
I enjoyed this I think the CrossFit OGs are about no sugar like the Bible and they aren't wrong. But frankly that ... or what cbg is talking about would work if consistently adhered to
CBG is correct with his statement about "the world is not setup for us to be successful that way". I first learned this from Peter Attia. However, CBG's statement about meta-analysis is incorrect, speaking as a scientist. That being said, I still think CBGs approach can work for some people. Definitely not for everyone. I am one of those people that if I have a little bit of processed sugars, in 6 months time I will be eating pizza and ice cream again on a regular basis. I do best, and feel best when I restrict my diet. I have learned over the years to save my processed food calories for social events. I think there needs to be a cultural change for humans to be healthy at a national level. We can't leave it up to corporations to decide for us, they only think about the bottom line and their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders.
Everything thing described by your well intentioned guest is exactly why we have the tsunami of chronic disease that Greg is trying to combat. Why is this info sooo bad? 1. Calories and thermodynamics does not take into account hormonal manipulation of the thermodynamic machinery. Physiological processes are more complex than a drain pipe "in vs out" 2. He's ignored context. What you eat "flesh" vs "carbs" influences the hypothalamus and homeostatic mechanisms that determine behavior. 3. Moderation is the biggest cop-out for any clinician. Moderation does not work when health is at stake. The rule of moderation only applies from a position of health. 4. Understand how and what Insulin does to your body. It's function is corrupted by carbs. 5. Saying nutrition is nuanced and complicated is validating your education. Healthy eating is evolutionary natural. Babies suck fat and protein. No diploma's required. Happy to chat Andrew. Touch base with me if you like. Dr David Johnson
1. Correct I do actually touch on this. 2. Have no idea what you’re talking about. Idk if you do either 3. This is exactly why doctors make bad nutrition coaches. 4. What’s the mechanism is this? 5. Also, have no idea what you’re talking about.
Really enjoyed this video Hiller glad you gave him the chance to explain his method and the application he takes with everyday people and then what he does for the elite athletes. I have to agree with him on the way Greg looks as when I first got in to CF I saw a picture of Greg , Dave , Rich , Josh & Andy stumph and couldn’t believe Greg was the founder 😂 I know he has had health issues but dam at least look like you practice what you preach.
Good dude, have hard time watching someone who says "Right" after ever sentence, Emily Caplan does that. Makes me wonder if they are convinced themselves or trying to hard to convince me..
Man I need to find time to watch this whole hour. First 6 minutes are great. Including slamming the door so dog doesn’t get in 😂 Calories in calories out matters. It’s always mattered. Anecdotally, sugar may make you eat more. Overeating in general is caused by hyper palatable foods that are calorically dense and we have more access to them than anytime in our country. The best thing to do is avoidance but also some won’t kill you. If you truly want to have the best nutrition conversation you need to talk to EC Syncowski of Optimize Nutrition. She is (in my opinion) the smartest person who has ever worked for CrossFit
I haven’t followed CBG closely but Justin kept saying that all carbs get broken down to glucose so it’s all the same but that’s way over simplified. Fructose (what you find with most sugars) can ONLY be broken down in the liver. If you eat a shit ton of fructose your liver has to work over-time to process it where glucose can be processed through out your body, you don’t want your liver working over time just to keep up with the shit your eating. It needs to be doing it’s other jobs as well (detox)
He seems to strictly be speaking of weight and muscle mass. Not health. Two separate issues. Blood work shows sugar is bad and should only be eaten in moderation.
Yes! But blood sugar and sugar consumption are two different things. Usually those with higher A1C are in fact insulin resistant due to being overweight 💪🏼
Also not necessarily true. My partner is jacked with a 6 pack, and an elite level athlete…when we started dating I was APPALLED at his food choices…. We did some bloodwork… and he was pre-diabetic. We cleaned up the sugar, fine tuned his nutrition….(to be more in line with Whole Foods….)And his A1C is back to normal. Eating sugar didn’t serve him well. Or anyone well.
@@michellehooks8509 same! My boyfriend is elite. Lean etc and has pre and post blood work. After he added breads, rice etc to his diet to meet carb goals his bloodwork came back bad. LDL and triglycerides were worse.
Yeah, I think the biggest problem with sugar is the amount of calories you will take in while trying to feel full with a high sugar diet. If your goal intake is 1800cal a day and you want to eat that with high sugar foods you’ll never feel full and you will either give up or you will take in 3500 calories trying to feel full. The whole cancer causing thing is on top of the fact you are now fat from eating too much and your joints hurt and you sit on the couch because you feel like shit. Then your get heart disease, then you take meds that screw you up even more. So just saying sugar is bad, try not to eat it, it’s the absolute correct approach.
Inflammation manifests in varied ways. Some get fat, some get diabetes and coronaries. Some get all of the above. Very few people who's predominant diet is carbs (and who dont toil) are healthy. Eat fat and meat and you'll be healthy, even if you eat too much and are big and healthy. You wont have visceral fat.
People are addicted to sugar not calories. It is more of a behavior issue than a math issue. Also, people who eat the whopper, normally will have a pop with the meal. ✌ great content guys.
@@eljaylopez85 if people were addicted to sugar they wouldn’t be able to stop eating apples all day. This is not the case for anyone. Glad you enjoyed it bro!
@hillerfit I hate to say it but your logic regarding sugars is ironically the same as Tanner Shuck when it comes to strength in regards to fitness. BALANCE is a key to success: Focus on being balanced - success is balance.
End Goals Thats the difference, Hiller is talking about health and CBG is focused on weight loss... One is a big picture, the other a correlate or derivative of the other. Its work capacity vs vo2 max, bf% etc... Your goals are different so the means to aquire them is also.
@@RyderChampouillon yes but health and weight loss can be correlated in a lot of cases and for a lot of people. Especially since rising obesity is connected directly to an unhealthy America.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 not disagreeing at all. :) I actually agree with both of you. Your concern seems to be focused primarily on obesity while Hiller and GG are looking at a larger scope of chronic metabolic disease. While both have mutual overlaps the causative factors are both different, thereby necessitating different interventions. Although you are both in the same fight, you are combating different objectives. Neither is right or wrong, just a different way of obtaining 2 different outcomes which I feel may be confusing to some people. Considering GG's focus on "virtuosity" it doesn't seem unreasonable to eliminate processed, refined, added sugars - although the caloric burden can be moderated by exercise, the metabolic effects of sugar are not optimal for "virtuosity" in health. Then again, GG wasn't considering "the games" as a target either, he was looking to optimize the health of the average person through General Physical Preparedness. The necessity of games athletes to "supplement" with gummy bears a coke, isn't at all in line with the methodology of CF itself. GG has been documented saying that the training that games athletes endure is contrary to the sickness, wellness, fitness continuum. An interesting consideration, that the spectrum is not a linear progression but is a curve potential with decreases to health at the most extreme levels of fitness.
I actually paid a lot of money for this program & lost nothing. I was very strict with it & was very disappointed. And yes, there is food out there that needs “demonized”
That's because he didn't drive your insulin levels down through minimising glucose consumption and promoting fat adaptation. There is no need for our body to store fat when most of us already have excess stored. You switch on lipolysis by decreasing Insulins lipogenic activity. Imagine if the world worked out that glucose and Insulin Resistance was the cause of 90% of chronic metabolic disease. This fellow hasn't.
Andrew, I usually watch your content start to finish. Saw the title of this one and did not watch any of it. Why? The answer is simple. Processed sugar has caused more morbidity and mortality than anything else in American history. Sounds dramatic, but it is fact . . . and completely intentional.
Seems CBG's philosophy is what Weight Watchers is: calories in, calories out. As if humans are closed thermodynamic systems. Doesn't matter what macros those calories consist of and ignores hormonal responses of insulin. So many faulty premises that it was painful listening to this guy. He really didn't think sugar was a big deal. Come on! It's no wonder people continue to fail on low calorie diets.
problem he falls into is the same that all the so called "smart" people in the fitness space fall into. If there isn't a study that says sugar is bad, then sugar isn't bad. It's the common downfall of considering yourself intellectual. They're smart enough to listen to "experts" but not smart enough to question what the experts say. There will never be a meta analysis on the harmful effects of sugar. Why? Because studies cost money. And it's in the food industry's best interest to come out with bogus studies about sugar being "not so bad."
@@SydneyCollinand I am 100 percent correct. If sugar causes obesity why don’t people who eat fruit all day as their carbs become obese? Fruit is just frustose = sugar
Refined Sugar IS the reason why there is so much chronic disease. CBG may be helping people lose the weight; but you are doing your clients a disservice because long term, that weight loss will stop because unless you remove refined sugar and grains from your diet, your body is never going to get rid of the inflammation that those cause. When people say they need something sweet, they are not wrong - my parents love sweets, my kids too - But there are options out there that do not have refined sugars (e.g., dark chocolate (with no sugar) honey, maple syrup) - you can use these to make deserts that do not and will not inflame your body.
This is so off. The whopper had seed oils used. The whopper had bread. This guy needs to study Dr. Jason Fung. He is so off. Calorie quantity versus quality. This is insanely wrong Hiller
39:40 it doesn‘t covert protein into carbs but into glucose. That shows you that you don‘t need carbs but he concludes: ‚because you need carbs.‘ You need glucose my man but no carbs.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 how does a lion or any other carnivore? By gluconeogenesis. A process in the liver that converts fats and protein into glucose. (you said it yourself in the video man!) Carbs are non essential. We don‘t need them at all. Carbs are not equivalent with glucose.
34:14 there you can see that the guy has no idea what he is talking about. That man has no idea how to advice with health in mind. He only thinks performance and/or weightloss.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 what should I debate you if you confuse carbs with glucose. 😂 And I‘m german speaking, way too slow for a live debate. But ry it here. I‘ll roast you left and right buddy.
Lots of good points here. But here’s an absolutely fact for me.
I’m T1D and know exactly how much insulin I take.
Eating the same cals in Oreos for a week = weight gain.
Eating the same cals in beef for a week = weight loss.
The only difference in the two weeks is my total daily insulin dose. I take 1 u insulin for every 10 carbs. I need 1 u insulin for every 3 G protein I eat (gluconeogenesis).
This is the biggest overlooked issue here ! Well stated
I think if you aim for "no sugar" and miss, and occasionally have sugar, you are way better off than if you aim for regular intake of sugar "in moderation" and miss.
Justin was my nutrition coach back in 2018/19 and I remember distinctly having periods of time where he had me completely eliminate processed foods all together, with an eventual reintroduction in specific quantities specifically timed around my workouts. I’m not an elite athlete but I’ve never been more fit in my life and my body comp was the best it’s ever been. I had a great experience working with Justin. He never advocated for eating junk food/sugar, always nutrient dense foods. I’m guessing his approach to allowing people to consume sugar is all based on the individual and the individual’s lifestyle. I can only speak from my experience.
@@michaelhall2024 thanks bro! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 hope you’ve kept crushing it!
Moderation is consistent with keeping clients on the books…..
Why do we only need 3-4 months working with most clients? 🤔
That’s not the game we play but I know a lot of companies do that.
There was no mention of inflammation and other harmful effects that sugar causes in the body. Thinking just straight up calories is too simplistic of a view...
Your Body doesn‘t give a shit where your carbohydrates come from if it is sugar or a potato. Inflammation is something people come up with when they have no scientfic literature backing them up. It‘s just BS.
People use inflammation as a massive excuse….even an inflamed person will loose weight regardless that may have a lot of unwanted side effects, that are there regardless. Cut down to 20% and your bloated / sore joints ok you have a case. If you’re overweight and inflamed it’s not low calories it’s the fact you’re fat
I recently read a book called "Ultra-Processed People" that has me thinking we should replace the phrase zero sugar w/ zero "ultra processed foods." There's a reason grapes are better than lab created edible substances that are generally engineered to be over consumed (and there's lots of evidence connecting those lab engineered molecules to cancer.) I HIGHLY recommend the book. Valuable perspective on this topic.
@@SpinProof someone is getting what I’m saying! Thank you!!!
Not to say I agree completely with either side here, but I like this dude.
Here's a true story: had a nutrition client cancel with me 3 weeks after signing up because she saw some meme account post about CBG. Not only did she pay a lot more with them, she also gained weight. Gaining weight was the opposite of her goal.
@@fusiongains this has happened in reverse to us several times. As a coach I’m sure you know some people have a difficult time changing their habits. I’m not sure of the details of this client but I’m happy to look through this if you sent me a private message.
I can assure you one thing. We would never sign up a client that was actively successful with another coach. We respect all coaches in the industry trying to do well for their clients and have a passion for helping.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 you guys can have her. You as a company pay or give free nutrition to athletes and influencers, and that's your marketing. It's not a dumb plan. But if I have a member that falls for that instead of working with me, when I see them day to day, have gotten great results for the other members they see everyday, then I'm happy to send them on their way.
Every body is different and has different needs. We have to take knowledge and apply it our situation.
This is why Greg started the broken science initiative
Also this seems like why Dave Ramsey doesn’t give an inch on no debt. Just like Andrew said “if you give an inch they take a mile”
Greg has never done science, studied science or published science. Greg is a huckster. Greg plagiarized CrossFit from Supertraining.
Eating sugar in exercise terms is lying on the couch. Over time biochemical systems forget how to work with almost anything else and are handicapped. So we need to get them off the comfy couch and “moving“: working the body as the versatile complex biochemical system that it is.
It takes a lot of digestive work to get nutrients from whole foods. The chewing, the digestion, the absorption, all the biochemical transformations in different organs and parts of the cell. And it takes much less work to get stuff out of ultra-processed foods, when they're "predigested" in a way that's way more than normal cooking.
The mitochondria need to have the skill to switch energy substrates, maintain glucose levels by breaking down what the body has, juggling all the different catabolic pathways of different nutrients instead of just supplying more "fast" substrates. Processing simple carbohydrates inhibits other reactions on a biochemical level and shifts the balance away. Over time the mitochondria lose the biochemical "skills" to juggle all the conflicting molecular signals, intermediate compounds (some of which are harmful) and just fail.
So calories are way too simplified. We're not combustion engines that produce heat and burn everything the same way. So no, broccoli is not sugar and the idea that "everything is sugar" is just wrong and "calories in, calories out" is more oversimplified than "sugar is bad".
5:42 NO you breathe it out as co2. 84% leaves the body as co2 the rest leaves as h2o.
When you burn fuel, fat or carbs they are chains of carbon with energy. We measure the energy in calories. When the energy is used the spent carbon is travels from the cell with the help of oxygen that we breathe in. It becomes co2 ( 1 carbon 2 oxygen) and we breathe it out. Thats why when we exercise we breath heavier, we need more o2 to clear more carbons because we are using more fuel, therefore create more spent carbon. You can measure the co2, to find out fuel source and energy expenditure.
Every breath we take we lose a little mass.
I’m pretty sure Hiller knew this and was being polite to his guest.
Thats way too complicated for the CICO dogmatics
@@crossfitmastersgymtainment7661 it’s literally CICO haha. This is how the Krebs cycle and carbohydrate metabolism works
I used to nutrition coach for many years and I biggest regret was not telling people to stop eating like an unsupervised child. I should have had a
F#$ck your feelings approach as feelings do not care you are fat.
I enjoyed this
I think the CrossFit OGs are about no sugar like the Bible and they aren't wrong. But frankly that ... or what cbg is talking about would work if consistently adhered to
CBG is correct with his statement about "the world is not setup for us to be successful that way". I first learned this from Peter Attia. However, CBG's statement about meta-analysis is incorrect, speaking as a scientist. That being said, I still think CBGs approach can work for some people. Definitely not for everyone. I am one of those people that if I have a little bit of processed sugars, in 6 months time I will be eating pizza and ice cream again on a regular basis. I do best, and feel best when I restrict my diet. I have learned over the years to save my processed food calories for social events. I think there needs to be a cultural change for humans to be healthy at a national level. We can't leave it up to corporations to decide for us, they only think about the bottom line and their fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders.
Hi, I am Taylor Domengeaux, I am CBG, CBG is me.
@@taylordomengeaux5244 literally the founder and creator haha
Everything thing described by your well intentioned guest is exactly why we have the tsunami of chronic disease that Greg is trying to combat. Why is this info sooo bad?
1. Calories and thermodynamics does not take into account hormonal manipulation of the thermodynamic machinery. Physiological processes are more complex than a drain pipe "in vs out"
2. He's ignored context. What you eat "flesh" vs "carbs" influences the hypothalamus and homeostatic mechanisms that determine behavior.
3. Moderation is the biggest cop-out for any clinician. Moderation does not work when health is at stake. The rule of moderation only applies from a position of health.
4. Understand how and what Insulin does to your body. It's function is corrupted by carbs.
5. Saying nutrition is nuanced and complicated is validating your education. Healthy eating is evolutionary natural. Babies suck fat and protein. No diploma's required.
Happy to chat Andrew. Touch base with me if you like.
Dr David Johnson
🙌
1. Correct I do actually touch on this.
2. Have no idea what you’re talking about. Idk if you do either
3. This is exactly why doctors make bad nutrition coaches.
4. What’s the mechanism is this?
5. Also, have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 Too late I'm sorry.😅 Consistent nonsense.
Really enjoyed this video Hiller glad you gave him the chance to explain his method and the application he takes with everyday people and then what he does for the elite athletes.
I have to agree with him on the way Greg looks as when I first got in to CF I saw a picture of Greg , Dave , Rich , Josh & Andy stumph and couldn’t believe Greg was the founder 😂 I know he has had health issues but dam at least look like you practice what you preach.
Good dude, have hard time watching someone who says "Right" after ever sentence, Emily Caplan does that. Makes me wonder if they are convinced themselves or trying to hard to convince me..
Man I need to find time to watch this whole hour. First 6 minutes are great. Including slamming the door so dog doesn’t get in 😂 Calories in calories out matters. It’s always mattered. Anecdotally, sugar may make you eat more. Overeating in general is caused by hyper palatable foods that are calorically dense and we have more access to them than anytime in our country. The best thing to do is avoidance but also some won’t kill you. If you truly want to have the best nutrition conversation you need to talk to EC Syncowski of Optimize Nutrition. She is (in my opinion) the smartest person who has ever worked for CrossFit
O shit they just said EC 😂
@@MrRacworth44 ec is the goat and I reference her here. I agree with her perspective. She also breaks things down in a simple way.
I haven’t followed CBG closely but Justin kept saying that all carbs get broken down to glucose so it’s all the same but that’s way over simplified. Fructose (what you find with most sugars) can ONLY be broken down in the liver. If you eat a shit ton of fructose your liver has to work over-time to process it where glucose can be processed through out your body, you don’t want your liver working over time just to keep up with the shit your eating. It needs to be doing it’s other jobs as well (detox)
For clarity, glucose is found in most of your starchy vegetables
fructose -> NAFLD (non-alcoholic fatty liver disease)
@@ZacJones1993 fructose does get mostly broken down by the liver that true and it does a good job at it. Remainder gets stored as body fat.
@@SydneyCollin no that’s wrong. Stop saying stuff like that
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 🙃
He seems to strictly be speaking of weight and muscle mass. Not health. Two separate issues. Blood work shows sugar is bad and should only be eaten in moderation.
Yes! But blood sugar and sugar consumption are two different things. Usually those with higher A1C are in fact insulin resistant due to being overweight 💪🏼
Also not necessarily true. My partner is jacked with a 6 pack, and an elite level athlete…when we started dating I was APPALLED at his food choices…. We did some bloodwork… and he was pre-diabetic.
We cleaned up the sugar, fine tuned his nutrition….(to be more in line with Whole Foods….)And his A1C is back to normal.
Eating sugar didn’t serve him well. Or anyone well.
@@michellehooks8509 same! My boyfriend is elite. Lean etc and has pre and post blood work. After he added breads, rice etc to his diet to meet carb goals his bloodwork came back bad. LDL and triglycerides were worse.
@@michellehooks8509well yea if you’re always eating processed foods that’s also not good.
One would be hard pressed to find a hyperpalatable food that doesn't have a good bit of sugar.
There are a lot of them that do and alot of them that don’t. But what do they have in common? All high in calories
ribeye steak
Someone should send this to not sporty
Yeah, I think the biggest problem with sugar is the amount of calories you will take in while trying to feel full with a high sugar diet. If your goal intake is 1800cal a day and you want to eat that with high sugar foods you’ll never feel full and you will either give up or you will take in 3500 calories trying to feel full. The whole cancer causing thing is on top of the fact you are now fat from eating too much and your joints hurt and you sit on the couch because you feel like shit. Then your get heart disease, then you take meds that screw you up even more. So just saying sugar is bad, try not to eat it, it’s the absolute correct approach.
India, the so-called "diabetes capital of the world", has relatively low obesity rates and relatively high carbohydrate intake.
Yeah there sweets are just syrup & sugar 😂 they taste good in small quantity but you can feel your self becoming diabetic as you eat them though 😂
Inflammation manifests in varied ways. Some get fat, some get diabetes and coronaries. Some get all of the above. Very few people who's predominant diet is carbs (and who dont toil) are healthy. Eat fat and meat and you'll be healthy, even if you eat too much and are big and healthy. You wont have visceral fat.
People are addicted to sugar not calories. It is more of a behavior issue than a math issue. Also, people who eat the whopper, normally will have a pop with the meal. ✌ great content guys.
@@eljaylopez85 if people were addicted to sugar they wouldn’t be able to stop eating apples all day. This is not the case for anyone. Glad you enjoyed it bro!
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 if it was an addiction, people would be eating 5lb bags of sugar my the spoonfuls…
@@catteel6448exactly
@hillerfit I hate to say it but your logic regarding sugars is ironically the same as Tanner Shuck when it comes to strength in regards to fitness. BALANCE is a key to success: Focus on being balanced - success is balance.
End Goals
Thats the difference, Hiller is talking about health and CBG is focused on weight loss...
One is a big picture, the other a correlate or derivative of the other.
Its work capacity vs vo2 max, bf% etc...
Your goals are different so the means to aquire them is also.
@@RyderChampouillon yes but health and weight loss can be correlated in a lot of cases and for a lot of people. Especially since rising obesity is connected directly to an unhealthy America.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 not disagreeing at all. :) I actually agree with both of you.
Your concern seems to be focused primarily on obesity while Hiller and GG are looking at a larger scope of chronic metabolic disease. While both have mutual overlaps the causative factors are both different, thereby necessitating different interventions. Although you are both in the same fight, you are combating different objectives. Neither is right or wrong, just a different way of obtaining 2 different outcomes which I feel may be confusing to some people.
Considering GG's focus on "virtuosity" it doesn't seem unreasonable to eliminate processed, refined, added sugars - although the caloric burden can be moderated by exercise, the metabolic effects of sugar are not optimal for "virtuosity" in health.
Then again, GG wasn't considering "the games" as a target either, he was looking to optimize the health of the average person through General Physical Preparedness. The necessity of games athletes to "supplement" with gummy bears a coke, isn't at all in line with the methodology of CF itself. GG has been documented saying that the training that games athletes endure is contrary to the sickness, wellness, fitness continuum. An interesting consideration, that the spectrum is not a linear progression but is a curve potential with decreases to health at the most extreme levels of fitness.
Potatoes are sugar by the way.
Sugar is the devil. Everyone loves it and it's probably survived a head injury.
Layne Norton would mop the floor with Greg Glassman… and expose his Metfix for the bro science it really is.
For me I have to avoid sugar. If I eat sugar I want more sugar.
So you eat no sugar ever? Nothing with added sugar etc?
I actually paid a lot of money for this program & lost nothing. I was very strict with it & was very disappointed. And yes, there is food out there that needs “demonized”
That's because he didn't drive your insulin levels down through minimising glucose consumption and promoting fat adaptation. There is no need for our body to store fat when most of us already have excess stored. You switch on lipolysis by decreasing Insulins lipogenic activity. Imagine if the world worked out that glucose and Insulin Resistance was the cause of 90% of chronic metabolic disease. This fellow hasn't.
Andrew, I usually watch your content start to finish. Saw the title of this one and did not watch any of it. Why? The answer is simple. Processed sugar has caused more morbidity and mortality than anything else in American history. Sounds dramatic, but it is fact . . . and completely intentional.
We are in agreement
Processed sugary foods that also have a crap ton of calories! Yes
Seems CBG's philosophy is what Weight Watchers is: calories in, calories out. As if humans are closed thermodynamic systems. Doesn't matter what macros those calories consist of and ignores hormonal responses of insulin. So many faulty premises that it was painful listening to this guy. He really didn't think sugar was a big deal. Come on! It's no wonder people continue to fail on low calorie diets.
problem he falls into is the same that all the so called "smart" people in the fitness space fall into. If there isn't a study that says sugar is bad, then sugar isn't bad. It's the common downfall of considering yourself intellectual. They're smart enough to listen to "experts" but not smart enough to question what the experts say. There will never be a meta analysis on the harmful effects of sugar. Why? Because studies cost money. And it's in the food industry's best interest to come out with bogus studies about sugar being "not so bad."
No that’s not at all what I said lol
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 36:25 "Calories is what causes obesity. Sugar doesn't cause obesity."
@@SydneyCollinand I am 100 percent correct. If sugar causes obesity why don’t people who eat fruit all day as their carbs become obese? Fruit is just frustose = sugar
Cbg says cals in cals out is for weight loss and macros are for body comp
Refined Sugar IS the reason why there is so much chronic disease.
CBG may be helping people lose the weight; but you are doing your clients a disservice because long term, that weight loss will stop because unless you remove refined sugar and grains from your diet, your body is never going to get rid of the inflammation that those cause.
When people say they need something sweet, they are not wrong - my parents love sweets, my kids too - But there are options out there that do not have refined sugars (e.g., dark chocolate (with no sugar) honey, maple syrup) - you can use these to make deserts that do not and will not inflame your body.
Typical American diet has way too many grains
This is so off. The whopper had seed oils used. The whopper had bread. This guy needs to study Dr. Jason Fung. He is so off. Calorie quantity versus quality. This is insanely wrong Hiller
@@DMS1010 Jason fung is a clown.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 ad hominem attacks make you look really professional
39:40 it doesn‘t covert protein into carbs but into glucose. That shows you that you don‘t need carbs but he concludes: ‚because you need carbs.‘
You need glucose my man but no carbs.
...the liver is capable of making & regulating the exact amount of glucose it puts into circulation via gluconeogenesis. So yes, no carbs required.
@@SevansDog-ju4fb how do you get glucose then?
@@SydneyCollin but your body makes it anyway? So why can’t you just have carbs?
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 how does a lion or any other carnivore? By gluconeogenesis. A process in the liver that converts fats and protein into glucose. (you said it yourself in the video man!)
Carbs are non essential. We don‘t need them at all. Carbs are not equivalent with glucose.
@@SevansDog-ju4fb but how is glucose bad to ingest if your body makes it anyway? Makes no sense
More complex than cal in/out. Sugar = evil
34:14 there you can see that the guy has no idea what he is talking about. That man has no idea how to advice with health in mind. He only thinks performance and/or weightloss.
@@SevansDog-ju4fb debate me live on it then.
@@consistencybreedsgrowth9443 what should I debate you if you confuse carbs with glucose. 😂 And I‘m german speaking, way too slow for a live debate. But ry it here. I‘ll roast you left and right buddy.