@@brandonmorris3746 normal shiki? I wouldn’t know, since he has his whole condition from mystic eyes of death perception that causes him to feel like he has low energy, and roa stealing energy from him also may play a part. When he winds a round sometimes he says “so tired”, implying that he probably can’t use too much energy
@@Verxx-sc2tl Not only that, she does feel more like an Adoptive Mother. Now that I think of it, we never really got to see Tohno's mother from both Families right? I feel like this is how Aoko's presence to him makes it all the more impactful.
Huh that's interesting shiki seems to have better more efficient body mechanics(better textbook perfect martil art techniques) but aoko seems to use looser harder to predict movements. Like the difference between a Tae Kwon do person vs an Mma stand up fighter. Cool
well shiki comes from a family where many martial arts where though (atleast thats what i remember) and aoko is a magus who can shoot moon beam lasers who just fights a little bit
@@darkcrow125 Shiki doesn't really care about those martial arts. In the visual novels, he was physically inefficient. The reason he fights like this in Melty is so it would be more fun to play as him. Shiki is anemic and doesn't have combat skills, he just has the ability to kill things instantly, and he has an average body that can work fine(aside from anemia). Shiki really isn't anything special; I can guarantee Miyako has better skill than him with martial arts.
@@professionalfangster1510 with his Nanaya blood his fighting skills are unrivalled, its that his anemic body limits it and he cant keep it up for long. Also he would have to regain his Nanaya memories to perform them or be taken over by his previous personality. Melty blood just assumes he can do it whenever
@@Emrystatari What? I didn't know blood made you powerful in Tsukihime. Are the nanayas not just normal humans who hunt supernatural beings? If they have special blood, they are no different from supernatural beings anyway.
@@professionalfangster1510 by blood i meant his bloodline (his lineage), the nanayas are demon hunters who have trained their bodies to the limits that humans can go to. eg they can move so fast they look like they are teleporting and can run on walls. that's why even though he doesn't remember being a nanaya when he gets into a tough situation he does things a normal person cant. the only side effect is all nanayas have bloodlust towards nonhumans which is why he killed arcuied and he feels it towards Akiha in certain situations
The word thing is that Aoko is more likely to have copied Shiki (or Shiki's blood relatives) to get those moves than the other way around, since his killing skills are... MAJOR TSUKIHIME SPOILERS ...subconscious/reflexive usages of his pre-Aoko and pre-amnesia training as the heir to the Nanaya family of killers, if I recall the story correctly.
I kinda doubt Aoko was copying Shiki considering she fights like this Mahoyo, which is well before Shiki was even born in the Remake timeline. Her new launcher is straight up taken from the marionette fight early on in the game.
But that aoko's aerial kick is what is shown when aoko destroy's touko wall of runes in mahoyo, and mahoyo is 10 years before her prime and basically at least 10 years before tsukihime.
In MBAACC F-Nanaya and F-Aoko both have Similar DP where they flip once you got hit though in F-Nanaya's case you have to double press "B" for him to flip.
@@chill7530 That girl bein' Arcueid, The female vampire who revived and after some misunderstandings and many adventures later, She became his love interest, right?
Its funny how her you are better than this, arent you? Feels like shes trying to encourage the person to fight harder and that they still have something in them like a master and teacher would. While Shiki sounds like hes just straight up making fun of the enemy. Its like as if he misunderstood the meaning behind these words of his master or is saying them without knowing that hes sounding condescending. Might be to much interpretation though.
Long reply incoming. Also there's a chance this might be wrong since I have not read the Tsukihime remake. Anyways, Shiki's innate nature is feral and sort of a jerk, basically his Nanaya personality. In fights Shiki does get a bit more aggressive and mean (you can see it in the manga and visual novel). This might be the reason
@@TheBelovedBun I was just trying to make a paradoxical statement since Shiki is like the main guy in Tsukihime and Melty Blood while Aoko is the main girl of Mahoyo which was written in 1996 but wasn’t released until 2012. Which in hindsight falls so flat it plummeted into the Earth and I regret making the comment. 😂
@@Ka49999s si puede ser yo he dicho eso por el dialogo pero puede que no sea asi lo unico que podemos hacer es sacar varias concluisiones asta que alguien lo diga no que mas decir a modo de ayuda
@@Ka49999s los nanaya le enseñaron a pelear su clan les lava el cerebro a los niños para aprender técnicas de asesinato pero como murieron todo su entrenamiento está incompleto
It's Nanaya techniques but I think they just decided to make some of their moves similar to show their relationship through the game instead of just saying it.
Thanks for sharing! Ya, I think it would be cool to see their similar move to counter like a mirror match! I also really like their unique reaction before and after match.
Not exactly. Who Shiki is most involved in depends on what storyline you are playing; this game is part of a spinoff series from a visual novel. Shiki was the protagonist, Arc, Ciel, Akiha, Kohaku, and Hisui were the heroines whose story routes you could follow; though they are grouped into "Near Side" and "Far Side" as Arc and Ciel follow one core premise (exploring the supernatural world of vampires, demons, and such hiding in plain sight) while the other three mostly are part of an only tangentially related direction (the secrets being hidden within the Tohno family and its estate). Aoko is a tertiary character to Tsukihime, she very briefly meets with Shiki as part of his backstory and gave him his enchanted glasses; he considers her an important mentor is his life but she's not around or involved in the present time of the story. But she's a very important and powerful person in the broader scheme of the Type Moon "Nasuverse" collection of IP The more recent remake was just the two Near Side stories, with Ciel's being very heavily rewritten to be more distinct from Arc's. The Far Side routes will be coming in their own remake game soon enough, which we are hoping will include Satsuki, the 6th heroine whose scenario never made into the original game for time and design constraints (but the original Melty Blood series is a continuation of it, oddly enough), finally getting her storyline completed and implemented. Not holding my breath on that part, it's been a meme for 20 years now that she'll never get that route for real. I'll just be happy if they add return her to the roster eventually in this game, she was my main when she was added in Melty Blood ReAct, with her bread and butter combos being linking command grabs into command grabs
Melty Blood Type Lumina is a spinoff of the visual novel Tsukihime. The story is broken out into routes depending on what heroine you choose to be with, but the main story is about vampire hunting (near side routes like Arcuied and Ciel) and the mysteries of the Tohno family (far side routes like Akiha, Kohaku, Hisui). Aoko is the teacher figure that saves Shiki after he's recovering in the hospital after an accident and he finds that he can see lines that when cut allow him to kill anything. Shiki is going through kind of a crisis since no one believes that he can see these lines and they think of him as crazy/a trouble maker, but Aoko believes him and gives him his glasses which suppress his vision along with teaching him the importance of choosing how he uses that power.
@@gtf234 sorry to tell you but OG Melty Blood is a continuation of Arc’s Route, the proof of this is when Shiki reminisces his time with Arcueid and when Miyako has a vision set in the future about Shiki The Killer (which is a scenario directly connected to Arc’s Route). The Satsuki Route should be happening, she appeared alongside Akiha, Hisui and Kohaku in the Teaser.
@@TheMightOfGeburah Nasu wrote in one their anthology publications from 2006 that Melty Blood's scenario was written using events from Satsuki's ending. That doesn't tell us all that much since what that meant only existed in his head, but that MB bizarrely assumes a backstory nobody knows the details of is well established.
![Melty Blood voice actor comparison [ARCUIED, CIEL, SHIKI] | Melty Blood Type Lumina](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6IU-e1WqgVM/mqdefault.jpg)
Of course he'd copy the kicks.
*He experienced them first-hand*
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She kicked me.
I always love it when the student and master share moves.
Warms my heart that Chang and Choi at least share some moves with Kim. They learned something, at least.
Lines too
They did a good job drawing how although they are similar, Aoko is noticeably more flexible than Shiki
Well, Shiki does wear a suit, and those are always stiffer than a t-shirt and jeans.
@@lexo632 idk man jeans can be pretty inflexible, also looks like Aoko is wearing jeans on the skinnier side
It should be the other way to a certain reason in the lore, but welp.
Shouldn't Shiki be more athletic than Aoko due to genes?
@@brandonmorris3746 normal shiki? I wouldn’t know, since he has his whole condition from mystic eyes of death perception that causes him to feel like he has low energy, and roa stealing energy from him also may play a part. When he winds a round sometimes he says “so tired”, implying that he probably can’t use too much energy
The moment that kick hit him, hundreds of years of martial arts knowledge were passed down to him.
Similarities are uncanny. There's a reason Shiki always calls this lady, his Master.
Because she kicked him in the face.
Not master, teacher. Because she felt like a school teacher for him
@@Verxx-sc2tl Not only that, she does feel more like an Adoptive Mother.
Now that I think of it, we never really got to see Tohno's mother from both Families right?
I feel like this is how Aoko's presence to him makes it all the more impactful.
But aoko didnt teach him any things about fight
@@Verxx-sc2tl in a nice way or what?
Ah yes. The Hikaru Genji plan
I like how Aoko is more flexible, specially for the launcher, Shiki jumps to make up for it while Aoko can do it grounded.
This is so genius I don't even know how to explain it
Like Mother like Son.
The you’re better than this is icing on the cake
When lore matters in moveset lmao
i like how it's all kicks, it's kinda poetic
Huh that's interesting shiki seems to have better more efficient body mechanics(better textbook perfect martil art techniques) but aoko seems to use looser harder to predict movements. Like the difference between a Tae Kwon do person vs an Mma stand up fighter. Cool
well shiki comes from a family where many martial arts where though (atleast thats what i remember)
and aoko is a magus who can shoot moon beam lasers who just fights a little bit
@@darkcrow125 Shiki doesn't really care about those martial arts. In the visual novels, he was physically inefficient. The reason he fights like this in Melty is so it would be more fun to play as him. Shiki is anemic and doesn't have combat skills, he just has the ability to kill things instantly, and he has an average body that can work fine(aside from anemia). Shiki really isn't anything special; I can guarantee Miyako has better skill than him with martial arts.
@@professionalfangster1510 with his Nanaya blood his fighting skills are unrivalled, its that his anemic body limits it and he cant keep it up for long. Also he would have to regain his Nanaya memories to perform them or be taken over by his previous personality. Melty blood just assumes he can do it whenever
@@Emrystatari What? I didn't know blood made you powerful in Tsukihime. Are the nanayas not just normal humans who hunt supernatural beings? If they have special blood, they are no different from supernatural beings anyway.
@@professionalfangster1510 by blood i meant his bloodline (his lineage), the nanayas are demon hunters who have trained their bodies to the limits that humans can go to. eg they can move so fast they look like they are teleporting and can run on walls. that's why even though he doesn't remember being a nanaya when he gets into a tough situation he does things a normal person cant. the only side effect is all nanayas have bloodlust towards nonhumans which is why he killed arcuied and he feels it towards Akiha in certain situations
It’s so cute how Shiki tries to replicate like his master I love this
Looks like Aoko's Boy H Plan is nearing fruition.
The word thing is that Aoko is more likely to have copied Shiki (or Shiki's blood relatives) to get those moves than the other way around, since his killing skills are...
MAJOR TSUKIHIME SPOILERS
...subconscious/reflexive usages of his pre-Aoko and pre-amnesia training as the heir to the Nanaya family of killers, if I recall the story correctly.
I kinda doubt Aoko was copying Shiki considering she fights like this Mahoyo, which is well before Shiki was even born in the Remake timeline. Her new launcher is straight up taken from the marionette fight early on in the game.
But that aoko's aerial kick is what is shown when aoko destroy's touko wall of runes in mahoyo, and mahoyo is 10 years before her prime and basically at least 10 years before tsukihime.
well aoko is his teacher, plus he must've got kicked so much that he eventually learned from it.
This just means the grooming is working
Shounen H plan is a success!
@@Saya-ng1sl And by that we mean the HIKARU GENJI plan ofc!!
"... and she kicked me"
Try this matchup, all you'll hear is:
-Kono
-Kono !
-Konoo !!
-Konoo !!
There's a few more, the one i can think of is they both have the 22A/B/C backflip (Shiki after Boundary Peak is active)
Shiki copying his Sensei is too cute lol
In MBAACC F-Nanaya and F-Aoko both have Similar DP where they flip once you got hit though in F-Nanaya's case you have to double press "B" for him to flip.
Never noticed this, that's super cool. Her 5b kinda reminds of H and F moon Nanaya's 5b in old Melty actually
Elemental mi querido Watson, sin son maestro y alumno, deben tener similitudes 😎
She's the one who trained him. And the one who taugh him not ta become an indiscriminate killer.
Then he cuts a girl into 17 pieces
@@chill7530 That girl bein' Arcueid, The female vampire who revived and after some misunderstandings and many adventures later, She became his love interest, right?
@@Wolfrage76 right.
In an alternate universe Ciel is seething at this comment.
@@chill7530 Yep. She will since Ciel also wants ta have him all ta herself.
@@Wolfrage76 exactly! Even after Arcueid so generously offered to share him in the Ciel route.
I like how Shiki seems to have more struggles with the moves
So what you mean to tell me is Aoki taught this man Shiki how to properly kick a person? Awesome!
Nah she kick him alot so he remember it perfectly
and Hyde in under night share a move too with them
Master and Students are together again in Type Lumina and even better. 8-)
She is not ready to leave Shiki yet. xD
They also have share the same D buttons.
Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that Aoko and Shiki's standing A's are mid attacks and not lows?
So I guess Aoko was Shiki Nanaya all along
What a wonderful detail
NANDE KOKO NI SENSEI GA!!!!
I actually love that
Oh...so that's why I don't like playing with aoko lol
Nice observation there!
and then she kicked him.
seems her plans is almost complete?
언덕에서 싸움까지 알려주신겁니까..
She isn't my teacher, she is my woman
She kicked him
This is just great.
is the dude the va from sonny boy
I thought i am the only one who realize it😂
goated stage
Its funny how her you are better than this, arent you? Feels like shes trying to encourage the person to fight harder and that they still have something in them like a master and teacher would. While Shiki sounds like hes just straight up making fun of the enemy. Its like as if he misunderstood the meaning behind these words of his master or is saying them without knowing that hes sounding condescending. Might be to much interpretation though.
Long reply incoming. Also there's a chance this might be wrong since I have not read the Tsukihime remake. Anyways, Shiki's innate nature is feral and sort of a jerk, basically his Nanaya personality. In fights Shiki does get a bit more aggressive and mean (you can see it in the manga and visual novel). This might be the reason
Aw hell nah, they straight up gave us cooler Shiki.
Female shiki without weapons, and extra sausy combos
Is it really a Shiki clone if Aoko was a protagonist in a previous VN before him though? If anything Shiki is an Aoko clone!
@@calebgoodman2076 It’s a joke.
@@calebgoodman2076 at least we get a guy, and Shiki is my guy! (shiki main & expert)
@@TheBelovedBun I was just trying to make a paradoxical statement since Shiki is like the main guy in Tsukihime and Melty Blood while Aoko is the main girl of Mahoyo which was written in 1996 but wasn’t released until 2012. Which in hindsight falls so flat it plummeted into the Earth and I regret making the comment. 😂
Still waiting for dlc characters on switch. Got them and I'm in love..
no wonder they're free lol
Es normal que sean similares si ella es la maestra y el alumno
_Lo cual es mucho más curioso porque Aoko no le enseñó a pelear._
@@Ka49999s a no y entonces quien?
@@kalmindcoolweapon6218 _Nadie lo sabe. Tal vez sea de algún recuerdo del clan Nanaya mezclado con el estilo de Aoko._
@@Ka49999s si puede ser yo he dicho eso por el dialogo pero puede que no sea asi lo unico que podemos hacer es sacar varias concluisiones asta que alguien lo diga no que mas decir a modo de ayuda
@@Ka49999s los nanaya le enseñaron a pelear su clan les lava el cerebro a los niños para aprender técnicas de asesinato pero como murieron todo su entrenamiento está incompleto
Nice. Economy + reference
shiki took some good classes from aoko
Guess she didn't want a repeat of Soujyuro's death
Did Aoko really teach Shiki fighting?
I thought the technique Shiki use is originate from Nanaya family.
It's Nanaya techniques but I think they just decided to make some of their moves similar to show their relationship through the game instead of just saying it.
Thanks for sharing!
Ya, I think it would be cool to see their similar move to counter like a mirror match!
I also really like their unique reaction before and after match.
Kick
I am wondering. Can I do the same kick like in 0:18 irl?
Probably, but it is definitely more of a tricking move than a fighting move.
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Aoko is his teacher so it make sense
this looks like fate, nasuverse?
Yeah
just like Ralf and Clark
Isn’t this Shiki guy also with the Arceuid girl and the maids? Is this like a harem or something?
Not exactly. Who Shiki is most involved in depends on what storyline you are playing; this game is part of a spinoff series from a visual novel. Shiki was the protagonist, Arc, Ciel, Akiha, Kohaku, and Hisui were the heroines whose story routes you could follow; though they are grouped into "Near Side" and "Far Side" as Arc and Ciel follow one core premise (exploring the supernatural world of vampires, demons, and such hiding in plain sight) while the other three mostly are part of an only tangentially related direction (the secrets being hidden within the Tohno family and its estate). Aoko is a tertiary character to Tsukihime, she very briefly meets with Shiki as part of his backstory and gave him his enchanted glasses; he considers her an important mentor is his life but she's not around or involved in the present time of the story. But she's a very important and powerful person in the broader scheme of the Type Moon "Nasuverse" collection of IP
The more recent remake was just the two Near Side stories, with Ciel's being very heavily rewritten to be more distinct from Arc's. The Far Side routes will be coming in their own remake game soon enough, which we are hoping will include Satsuki, the 6th heroine whose scenario never made into the original game for time and design constraints (but the original Melty Blood series is a continuation of it, oddly enough), finally getting her storyline completed and implemented. Not holding my breath on that part, it's been a meme for 20 years now that she'll never get that route for real. I'll just be happy if they add return her to the roster eventually in this game, she was my main when she was added in Melty Blood ReAct, with her bread and butter combos being linking command grabs into command grabs
read tsukihime if you want to understand the story. Melty blood is just a spin off
Melty Blood Type Lumina is a spinoff of the visual novel Tsukihime. The story is broken out into routes depending on what heroine you choose to be with, but the main story is about vampire hunting (near side routes like Arcuied and Ciel) and the mysteries of the Tohno family (far side routes like Akiha, Kohaku, Hisui). Aoko is the teacher figure that saves Shiki after he's recovering in the hospital after an accident and he finds that he can see lines that when cut allow him to kill anything. Shiki is going through kind of a crisis since no one believes that he can see these lines and they think of him as crazy/a trouble maker, but Aoko believes him and gives him his glasses which suppress his vision along with teaching him the importance of choosing how he uses that power.
@@gtf234 sorry to tell you but OG Melty Blood is a continuation of Arc’s Route, the proof of this is when Shiki reminisces his time with Arcueid and when Miyako has a vision set in the future about Shiki The Killer (which is a scenario directly connected to Arc’s Route).
The Satsuki Route should be happening, she appeared alongside Akiha, Hisui and Kohaku in the Teaser.
@@TheMightOfGeburah Nasu wrote in one their anthology publications from 2006 that Melty Blood's scenario was written using events from Satsuki's ending. That doesn't tell us all that much since what that meant only existed in his head, but that MB bizarrely assumes a backstory nobody knows the details of is well established.
First time?
ah yes, the Ryu clone
what is the song?
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@@Tjub25 I love you
oh!
What was the song playing ???
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what game is this
Melty Blood Type Lumina
@@Tjub25 thanks
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