Like the video. The "emotional organic" connection between baroque music and current music was new to me. Always thought that classical music has to be played like noted. Ornamentation is still the key to a vibrant guitar solo. Just one thing: I don't need the stock video inserts and would rather be seeing you. But that's just to my taste. Thanks for this video, it was a new thing to me and both of you performed with Graces.
Plus one to the "don't need the stock videos". Everyone uses these nowadays. I understand that the idea is to enrich the viewing experiece. But 99 times out of 100 the only extra component those inserts bring is annoyance
This is one of the reasons why I love Baroque opera so much -- I love to arrange music, and those arias have fantastic catchy melodies with TONS of elbow room to play with. I've turned some Handel arias into Romantic impromptus, rags, Elton-John gospel rock, etc. You can do anything with a good tune that gives you the space to play. I've sometimes said that Beethoven's music is like a cathedral. Handel's music is like the deluxe top-tier Lego set for a cathedral. You can build that out of it, but if you want to snap UFOs on top of the spires and combine it with a Hogwarts castle, you can.
Very cool video Brandon! This is one of my favourite things about our music, Thanks for sharing this to the world!! (And beautiful interpretations as always)
Yo like your content, can you play once again Verano Porteño (Tango) By Astor Piazzolla?, the last time was 12 year ago, I'll love it if you play it once again
It's a marginal aspect of the video, however, it's worth mentioning that the manuscript utilised as a background illustration at 3:57 is written in Hungarian, and it is a part of the poem "About the homeland" written by Sándor PETŐFI (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1ndor_Pet%C5%91fi) in 1845.
@7:00 a revelation, hearing it with the old ornamentation-once again, we seem to assume that "older" means simpler or boring or somehow "less than". This is like discovering the true colors of the Sisteen Chapel-anything but simple and boring.
I believe jazz grew somewhat directly as a descendent of baroque music. Baroque -> ottoman marches -> American marches…. Baroque -> early dance ie polka / waltz. American marches / early dance -> big band ie early jazz
Uhhh, no. Imagine trying to explain the origins of jazz without including the African American spirituals or the blues. Congrats, you just white-washed a predominately black form of music.
The singer rightfully gets a lot of praise for his lovely voice but is he simulating a french accent from the period? Otherwise his pronounciation is terrible. I dont care usually but his "voix" made me laigh out loud.
@@Enlitner hi there - I’m the singer! yes, this is 17th century French pronunciation. It does sound super unusual to a modern listener - glad you got a laugh! I wrote a comment detailing it a bit more on the full performance video of this piece on Brandon’s channel. Thanks for listening
@@jreesemusicThat's awesome. How deep does this go? Do you learn one specific "baroque" pronounciation or do regional dialects come into play because there wasnt a uniform french language yet? And what about italian, did composers write in their own language as this was centauries before "italian" was created or was there like a "aristocratic version" that composers used?
@@Enlitner You're spot on that there wasn't official uniformity in French until later - like the early 19th century. Most of the pronunciation decisions in this video are based in writing about how it might have been done at the aristocratic court around 1700- (since that's where much of this music in this genre was originally performed.) Scholars have different methods for understanding how words may have been pronounced by context clues from written documents, including rhymes, puns, or transliterations into other languages. To the question, 'how can we know for certain what it sounded like?' - well, we can never know for certain! But the joy of reconstructing a historical musical performance is imagination, and making well-supported guesses at how things would have actually sounded. If you are a singer or interested to learn more, I highly recommend the book 'Singing Early Music: The Pronunciation of European Languages in the Late Middle Ages and Renaissance.' Robert Taylor has a chapter on the evolution of Old French to early modern French. But there are chapters which cover Italian, Spanish, French, and multiple chapters on Latin and how it was pronounced around Europe. It's a page-turner, as you can imagine :)
I wrote a comment on the full performance video of this piece on Brandon’s channel talking a bit more about this pronunciation! Vowels and treatment of consonants were different in this time period. We can’t say for certain what they were in every case, but we can make educated guesses. A lot of people say it sounds like modern-day Quebecois. Thanks for listening!
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Like the video. The "emotional organic" connection between baroque music and current music was new to me. Always thought that classical music has to be played like noted. Ornamentation is still the key to a vibrant guitar solo. Just one thing: I don't need the stock video inserts and would rather be seeing you. But that's just to my taste. Thanks for this video, it was a new thing to me and both of you performed with Graces.
Plus one to the "don't need the stock videos". Everyone uses these nowadays. I understand that the idea is to enrich the viewing experiece. But 99 times out of 100 the only extra component those inserts bring is annoyance
I personally like the stock videos. Please keep them.
This is one of the reasons why I love Baroque opera so much -- I love to arrange music, and those arias have fantastic catchy melodies with TONS of elbow room to play with. I've turned some Handel arias into Romantic impromptus, rags, Elton-John gospel rock, etc. You can do anything with a good tune that gives you the space to play. I've sometimes said that Beethoven's music is like a cathedral. Handel's music is like the deluxe top-tier Lego set for a cathedral. You can build that out of it, but if you want to snap UFOs on top of the spires and combine it with a Hogwarts castle, you can.
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Do you know the album "Händel goes wild" by L'Arpeggiata? It strays quite far from the source material, but I adore it.
Thank you for the explanation. I have loved French baroque music for 20 years because all those agreements. So ordered and yet sounds so free.
Very cool video Brandon! This is one of my favourite things about our music, Thanks for sharing this to the world!! (And beautiful interpretations as always)
Thank you for this video!
Oh, wow :) Thank you for sharing.
I love it😊
His voice
Yo like your content, can you play once again Verano Porteño (Tango) By Astor Piazzolla?, the last time was 12 year ago, I'll love it if you play it once again
It's a marginal aspect of the video, however, it's worth mentioning that the manuscript utilised as a background illustration at 3:57 is written in Hungarian, and it is a part of the poem "About the homeland" written by Sándor PETŐFI (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1ndor_Pet%C5%91fi) in 1845.
@7:00 a revelation, hearing it with the old ornamentation-once again, we seem to assume that "older" means simpler or boring or somehow "less than". This is like discovering the true colors of the Sisteen Chapel-anything but simple and boring.
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I wondered about the pronounsination, if it is from the time it was written?
Yes
Sounds like it has a lot in common with Middle-eastern music.
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Bouree in e minor!
Ur 3/4 emphasis is different then a jazz like 3/4.
I believe jazz grew somewhat directly as a descendent of baroque music. Baroque -> ottoman marches -> American marches…. Baroque -> early dance ie polka / waltz.
American marches / early dance -> big band ie early jazz
The amount of stretches you made. Wow.
Uhhh, no. Imagine trying to explain the origins of jazz without including the African American spirituals or the blues. Congrats, you just white-washed a predominately black form of music.
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The singer rightfully gets a lot of praise for his lovely voice but is he simulating a french accent from the period? Otherwise his pronounciation is terrible. I dont care usually but his "voix" made me laigh out loud.
@@Enlitner hi there - I’m the singer! yes, this is 17th century French pronunciation. It does sound super unusual to a modern listener - glad you got a laugh! I wrote a comment detailing it a bit more on the full performance video of this piece on Brandon’s channel. Thanks for listening
@@jreesemusic Once I heard "bois" I knew something was up. Beautifully sung BTW.
@@arferbargelthanks so much!!
@@jreesemusicThat's awesome. How deep does this go? Do you learn one specific "baroque" pronounciation or do regional dialects come into play because there wasnt a uniform french language yet? And what about italian, did composers write in their own language as this was centauries before "italian" was created or was there like a "aristocratic version" that composers used?
@@Enlitner You're spot on that there wasn't official uniformity in French until later - like the early 19th century. Most of the pronunciation decisions in this video are based in writing about how it might have been done at the aristocratic court around 1700- (since that's where much of this music in this genre was originally performed.)
Scholars have different methods for understanding how words may have been pronounced by context clues from written documents, including rhymes, puns, or transliterations into other languages. To the question, 'how can we know for certain what it sounded like?' - well, we can never know for certain! But the joy of reconstructing a historical musical performance is imagination, and making well-supported guesses at how things would have actually sounded.
If you are a singer or interested to learn more, I highly recommend the book 'Singing Early Music: The Pronunciation of European Languages in the Late Middle Ages and Renaissance.' Robert Taylor has a chapter on the evolution of Old French to early modern French. But there are chapters which cover Italian, Spanish, French, and multiple chapters on Latin and how it was pronounced around Europe. It's a page-turner, as you can imagine :)
Sorry, but bois is pronounced "bwah." Oiseuax is pronounced "wazzo."
@@djmoulton1558 he is using the 17th century french pronunciation. The piece was written in 1685
I wrote a comment on the full performance video of this piece on Brandon’s channel talking a bit more about this pronunciation! Vowels and treatment of consonants were different in this time period. We can’t say for certain what they were in every case, but we can make educated guesses. A lot of people say it sounds like modern-day Quebecois. Thanks for listening!