DCS WORLD: FA18C HORNET & JTAC MGRS COORDINATES
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Hey there DCS brothers & sisters.
This vid showing how I liaise with my JTAC units who are providing me with MGRS coordinates ( Military Grid Reference System ) thus allowing me to easily create Waypoints from those coords to locate enemy Targets in my latest mission "Search Seek & Destroy".
Hope you find it helpful, cheers Gaz 😉
My latest mission in both day & night versions relative to this vid.. go grab em & have fun 🙂
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Exactly what I needed, thanks a lot for the demostration and the missions!!!!!!
Your welcome brother 😉👍
Excellent video. I've just been using the MGRS coordinates for the first time. Now I'll use JTAC a lot more in my missions. Didn't have any crashes when using GBU's.
Nice one John, glad to hear man 👍
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Thanks for this GazAce! Great video AND accompanying DCS mission(s). Huge thank you, Sir! o7
Thanks kindly MisterMann! Glad you liked 🙏😀
Thx for the missions (both day & night version) and the MGRS tutorial @GazAce!
Hey your awesomly welcome brother! 👍😉
This video needs to be shorter unless the guide is also about how to do radio menu comms with JTAC. Essentially the good stuff starts at 7:16 -- which is "how to enter MGRS coordinates for F/A-18 waypoints."
Slightly extra material that would be helpful is this: understanding MGRS coordinates in general. MGRS coordinates are not all the same. After the letters in MGRS, there are 6, 8, or 10 numerical digits -- always an even number of digits. Essentially divide that number in half, so 6 is XXXYYY, 8 is XXXXYYYY, and 10 is XXXXXYYYYY. It looks like your JTAC gave 6 digits in the 9-line and it looks like the F/A-18 takes in exactly 6 digits so that's a direct input situation. But what if the JTAC gave you 8 digits or 10? I play on a multiplayer server (Through The Inferno) and MGRS coordinates through server comms (F10) features are given as 10 digits. The conversion is simple -- remove the same number of trailing digits per X partition and Y partition. Example:
Say you're given 36RWU1234567891. You have 10 digits at the end, 5 X digits and 5 Y digits. First it helps to parse it out to 36R WU 12345 67891 -- now we can see the XXXXX part is 12345, and the YYYYY part is 67891.
If your DCS module (F/A-18) is only expecting 6 trailing numerical digits instead of 10, you need to drop the 2 least significant digits from each part. 12345 for XXXXX becomes 123 as XXX, and 67891 for YYYYY becomes 678 for YYY. The entire thing becomes 36R WU 123 678. The removed digits is giving you less precise coordinates within the grid, but should still get you looking at the right area. I'm actually surprised only 3 digits of precision put the targetting pod right on target in this video.
I'm not 100% sure on this, but in the opposite direction (you need more digits than given), I'm guessing you just pad with zeroes. So if you get only 6 digits, and you need to input 8 (the AH-64D needs 8), add zeros to the trail. So 36R WU 123 789 goes to 36R WU 1230 7890.
I got what I came here to learn, but had to fill in some gaps.
Thanks for all that input.
That Vid was 2.5 years old. I suggest having a look at this more recent one I created.
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Wow Thanks a lot for your comment ! I was stuggling a lot, and now I understood why. Really really nice of you. Thank a lot and good flights !
Please @GazAce , if you see this, pin this commentary, it was so helpful to me, as it can be to others :)
Excellent video , structure and quality . Well done
Thanks kindly brother 🙏
Thing is mate... I am getting these crashes quite few times with current beta. Always at GBU release, but its intermittent and not mission specific either. Nice vid as always Gaz!
Yea I hear ya but lately it's those sticking GBUs that's more of a pain in the rear. I recorded it this time & posted here but a invite only for BN, hopefully he'll get it checked out. And someone else mentioned in Forum too. It's a tricky one cause only intermittent. You have access too, if you want to check it out 👍
you just earnt a very happy subscriber
Much appreciated, thanks brother. I recently did a more up to to date JTAC vid. Have a peek 😏
Bloody brilliant as always mate!! Thanks heaps
Thank you kindly A SR man. New mission Search Seek & Destroy available any tick of the clock.. will post link soon 😉
Fantastic. Thank you
Thank you I really needed this!
Awesome, glad it helped out👍
I've looked for this for ages!!
Awesome video!
Glad it helped out brother 👍
tks for making this video,
WOW thanks for the video
No worries man 👍
great video man! thx
Hi, congratulations on the video. I have a question, why does the JTAC tell me 8 digits and not 6 like what happened to you?
Thanks for your kind words brother. Not sure why JTAC call 8 digits. Also when I build missions & use the MGRS coordinates from a position on the map so I can then relay that to the Player via a in-mission mesg box, the coordinates are 10 digits. Have a look at my more recent JTAC MGRS coordinates mission here. ruclips.net/video/1sR_WiGKq9s/видео.htmlsi=z4hcuWHPeZjddg5N
Good vid, thanks dude!
Hey thanks BD, appreciate that man 👍
very useful thx
Great vid. I am always wondering how to zoom in on your targets like you do at 12 min 40. Hope you can tell me, tia!
Thanks Michel_OK much appreciated. At the annoyance of most hard core simmers in DCS hehe.. I enjoy external views. That view you saw is simply F7 = "Ground unit view" & then I use "Zoom in slow" & "Zoom out slow" function, all of which I have mapped to controls on my throttle & stick. There are lots of different external views you can map to your controls, one of my favorites is to "Released weapon view" = F6 then I hit "Jump to free camera view" = L Ctrl + F6. It looks awesome & when your in your Pit you can use it too. That one I use a fair bit.. check my latest vid Operation Blackout & just before I takeoff at 07:30 I use it then. Again, all mapped to my throttle n stick. Have a look in DCS Options Controls all around F2 F3 F4 etc. Hope all that helped. Cheers 🙂👍
@@GazAce Do you also happen to know why JTAC give 8 digits for GRID but i can either enter 6 digits (normal mode) and 10 digits in precise enter mode. This way i am never precise enough. TY for the help.
Today i started in VR: what an experience is that ;)
@@surfman88 Here's what you do. Remove 4th & 8th digit & enter as Grid.. with 6 digits.. Precise = UN-BOXED & select Lat Lng Dec if not already. Then create your new WP, hit WPDSG & hey presto! It wont be directly on the target but will be nearby. I'll do a quick vid on this in the next day or so. Hope this helps, let me know how you go. Cheers 👍
@@GazAce Thanks for helping me out. It worked well. Isn't it strange that this is needed? Do you think this is an error in DCS?
I tried out IR-pointing which is cool as well. Seeing this IR beam emerge on the NVG is pretty awesome.
@@surfman88 Glad it worked out brother. I don't believe this is an error & I'm not sure why they changed from 6 to 8 digit MGRS coords but I'm sure someone in the Forum would let you know. I haven't tried the IR beam yet, sounds cool. Cheers 🙂
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thx for the vid helpful, one question how do you get the read back(in writing) to stay up on the left hand crn of your screen as you had, in mine i dont get any all i get on the right hand side crn is jtac menu
Thanks brother, maybe try your Options relative to Radio comms or other on screen menu settings etc, I'm at wk atm so I can't check what mine are but I'm guessing there would be a good place to start 🤔
@@GazAce thx for that dont worry thats the first place i had checked but couldnt find any settings will keep checking though will let you know
ok found the issues had subtitles unchecked in the audio section
@@peterkelberg6592 awesome Peter! 👌
Do you have any recommendations on how to use the syria map without freezes and ctd? It seems to use an awful amount of RAM
1. Submitting logs to DCS Forum
2. Increase your RAM
3. Decrease ingame graphical settings
4. Disable antivirus or any other software that eats up RAM & CPU that runs outside DCS
5. Check the settings guide in DCS User Manual.. pages 24 - 29
( Thanks to Luke W for tips with this )
Also there's always the obligatory clean up & repair option.. Hope that helps
How the hell did you get that targeting card picture that clear?
I'm not sure, that's the way I've always viewed them. Maybe my in Sim settings help as I max everything out incl Res of all Cockpit Displays
"1024 Every Frame".. that could help, try it & see brother 😉
Ok thx to you i have gotten the grids down pat now, but one more question before the grid came in the last update i used to be able to set my jtac down in the Mission editor etc and was able to drop bombs with out taking my tpod since the jtac would lase the targets, and would get call outs like ip inbound, laser on etc but not now?
That's above my pay grade man lol JTAC has been weird & fussy from way back..
Also Peter, check out my mission I posted in user files & go into the ME ( mission editor ) & have a look my JTAC units & their settings & compare & also check your options for comms or audio commands, that's all I can think of 😐
@@GazAce thx for the reply think its a bug after the last update since my previous mission now dont work with jtac
@@GazAce yea i did but your mission are abit different than the normal jtac call out since you dont get any laser on calls etc and you could drop bombs and use jtac laser to bomb targets
@@peterkelberg6592Ah yea the good ole bug factor, we do love DCS but unfortunately it's got more bugs than an African jungle. Try a completely mission with JTAC & see what happens, you might be surprised 🤔
You'd think those guys would get a bit suspicious when smoke starts going off right next to them 🤔 ruclips.net/video/epSbqvzbKiQ/видео.html
Hi, I wonder which map are you running in this vid...thx!
Syria Map brother, departing from Beirut-Rafic-Hariri
Mission: Search Seek & Destroy. Author: yours truly
Day mission -->> www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313775/
Night version -->> www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313789/
Go grab em & have fun 🙂
Hmm why does jtac give me random mgrs data? If he gives the mgrs. input in as you do, and then is is an random spot middle of the desert or in the ocean and then he says it is infantry target? What is going on
I'm not sure I fully understand your question brother. Firstly, JTAC Patrol here in a DCS mission can physically ID a Target for you as they are within visual range of that target. They then give the Pilot the Grid Coordinates for the enemy's location so the Pilot can convert them to a WP which he can then target. I'm not sure where the "random" part comes into it. Check this little vid I did not long ago on building a small bridge bombing mission & also setting down a JTAC Unit that IDs a Target for you. As well as a vid on easy log 8 digit coordinates.
Hope that helps. Cheers GA 🙂👍
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@@GazAce thanks i will try that! What happened is the jtac gave me the coordinates , but if i entered it in my f18, that waypoint was somewhere in the ocean instead of a real target in the desert.
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Ok, now I know what you mean. Check out my "Logging 8 Digit Coordinates" vid I gave you link to in my last reply. All will make sense then man 👍
@@GazAce just watched your other videos. Maybe it did not go well because i didn't put the extra 0 after the 4th and the last number in the coordinates
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Yea 10 digits with the 0 is the way to go brother. Enjoy 👌
i don't know if i wrong something, but seems that in Nevada map , jtac give me wrong coordinates
Interesting, run your mission again & dlb check everything & if still the same result then record a short Track File & Report it. I'll also run a test in Nevada map for you too. What kind of coordinates are they?
@@GazAce the coordinates are mgrs, but seems that they are very far from the real location of target. i build a mission with 4 moving truck as objective , and a predator as a jtac. but it give me always wrong coordinates
@@lordf4667 Your coordinates are on a stationary position with min alt set right?
@@GazAce the target is a moving convoy of 4 trucks
@@lordf4667 JTAC cannot Lase moving Targets mate. Also, right I'm now in the process of running a few tests with JTAC in Nevada map, so far so good but more to be done with different scenarios. I think I'll do another Vid on my ch as things have changed since my last one here. If Targets are moving then get JTAC to Lase a point they will cross at a certain time so you can follow with your Pod from that location. Hope this helped 😉
Great video. I have a question my JTAC is giving me 8 digits for the MGRS target location code? And I can only enter 6 digits to add the waypoint in the jet. Any idea why they're giving me 8 digits?
Thanks, appreciate that. The coordinates your getting are within this mission or another? Also you flying F/A-18C or another AC?
@@GazAce I created my own scenario using the Persian gulf map. And I’m flying the F18. Seems like the jtac is giving me 8 digits and I’m unable to enter them lol
@@GazAce this is what I got “CM71597690”
@@technofaisal Try entering the first 6 or the first 3 & the last 3
@@GazAce thanks will try it out . Appreciate the help !
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