Z-O-M-B-I-E-S (Musical Hell Review #85)
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Did anyone notice that the girl's "wig hair" looked like her actual hair while her "natural hair" looked like wig hair? They couldn't even be bothered to dye her hair to make her "minor but terrible oh woe is me" flaw more believable!
or at least make this wig up properly...only if it wasn't a cheap piece of crap)
Noel yeah
That is a Party City wig if I’ve ever seen one.
That’s because the “wig” is her real hair, and her “natural” hair is a wig
Sofie Harestad
They understand that...what they are saying is that it was completely obvious that she’s wearing a wig. They couldn’t be bothered to do the _opposite_ for the movie and make it at least passible.
Wait, so she litterally just has white hair?... I thought it was gonna mean she was also part zombie or something
Same! So stupid
Ruby Darling yeah.... it was pretty lame😅
Maybe she is and they're just saving it for the sequel?
You'd think hair like that would make you kinda cool
You know, so did me and my mom.
My first guess for Addison's "dark secret" was that she's half-zombie, but lucked out on the genetics and doesn't look the part. That might've actually been more interesting.
What exactly is her dark secret anyways? Magical white hair for no reason? I don't know if Diva left it out, I missed it, or if they literally never explain it but I'm kinda confused as to what was up with her hair.
That was my first thought too! Or at least has zombie blood in her _somewhere._ And if that wasn't it, why _does_ she have white hair that you can't dye, is that ever explained?
(I would also ask why it would be such a problem in the first place, but considering the Stepford image this town tries so hard to maintain, I guess it's a case of "Anything remotely different is BAD and SHAMEFUL" and that's why her parents pressure her to wear a wig.)
Yo, same. I thought that too
@@elsie8757 Maybe this would work better if the town had multiple kinds of monsters. Ghouls, vampires, banshees, etc all lumped together under the "zombie" category, despite not having much in common beyond looking creepy. Then anyone who looked creepy (even if it was just white hair) would be too similar to those creepy zombie people who totally eat brains and stuff.
@@elsie8757 I thought all of this! But it sounds like the movie doesn't clarify this and all we have is what they show us to go on. If they had just shown another non-zombie character being different and ostracized for it earlier in the movie, this would have made sense.
"Guess Who's Coming To Dinner, But Not To Eat Our Brains, I Promise" sounds like the title of a much better movie than this.
I want to see that movie.
Why can't I see that movie?
Like a anime Light Novel
lmao or a Fall Out Boy song I heard in a fever dream
or some kinde of Bizarre Fiction book
Alice OfSherwood “Get Out” is basically “Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner” but with zombies 😂
By Fallout Boy
Honestly the worst sin the movie comits is trying to convince us those actors are freshmen.
meh, that happens every now and then... To quote Scary Movie character Greg...or no, I won't do that, it would be too obvious))))
Dawson casting in a nutshell. Dawson's Creek was apparently infamous for having older actors play teens, hence the trope name. These freshmen look more like juniors to me.
Clearly you haven't seen a lot of Disney channel movies, that's a problem that Disney channel had for a long time
Her walking out of the house in that skirt kinda had the same vibes as that one scene in V for Vendetta, especially that little bounce. Very uncomfortable
Kind of like Power Rangers with its thirty year old teenagers.
The sin of Eliza's character being told "don't do it; we won't stoop to their level" is even MORE insulting when she's the only Zombie lead being played by a person of color
I know, Eliza is an undeniably better person than Bucky and his cronies, as she fights against injustice, yet it's HER who needs to learn the lesson and not overstep her boundaries?!😮
Trina Q Plus, we never learn what she was going to do. For all we know, she was just going to mess with Bucky’s Pom-poms.
@@johnvinals7423 The irony is that Seabrook is human-integrated except for the zombies--the coach is black, the Black Best Friend exists, Bucky is an Asian-y guy, I guess? His team also has black people on it.
So who the fuck are the zombies supposed to be metaphors for if the entire town is human-integrated?! Gang members? Immigration? What?
All of this is presumably intentional. Disney is trying to simultaneously appeal to garden-variety liberals with feel-good surface-level progressive themes, and appeal to garden-variety conservatives by not going so far as to suggest anything needs to _change._ Having secondary characters be POC satisfies the former, having the white characters put the most active of those characters in her place satisfies the latter.
And the people lecturing her are white.
God that white wig looks like it came from Party City
Her dark secret...
*she's a crappy Fortnite Cosplayer*
Kuro Heart Oh come on, it's not that good!
Phi Phi O'Hara would be enraged
It prob did
I found a wig that is identical to the wig in the movie at party city
Why do the Zombies look like reject joker cosplayers?
More like Beetlejuice
@Simple Weirdo Good point.
Because if the zombies look "black," viewers will assume that they are supposed to represent black people. If the zombies look "asian," viewers will assume that they are supposed to represent asian people etc. So the zombies needed to look as separate from (all) people as possible. Green hair helps with this.
@@blindlobster They still look like Joker wannabes.
@@blindlobster I don't think that green hair makes someone look "less human" in 2018 when anyone can dye their hair in green. They were just afraid to make zombies look unattractive and zombie-like
You know...Eliza should have been the main character. She has more of a motivation and the movie wouldn’t have been like a straight girl at Pride.
THAT could be one of the things that could save this HORRIBLE EXCUSE OF A RACISM ALLEGORY MOVIE!
@@dailygeek1334 Eh...the core flaw of this movie (at least from a thematic standpoint) was the surface-level "everything's okay in the 21st century, because the Civil Rights Movement stopped the bad" treatment of racism. If they didn't fix that, having a protagonist who actively fought to improve zombie rights would probably be even more frustrating than this movie already is.
Eliza was literally about "fixing this world with violence" type
this movie was trying to tell you that's not how it should be, but instead we should understand and try to fix it, "together"
That's why Eliza was trying to literally bomb the whole school at the end, but she eventually gave humans a second chance
Though the solution was......cheering together...which is...weird
The ending kinda feel rushed but eh...this is movie for kids/family what did you expect
@@giraffe6856 Did 18:17 - 19:14 just go completely over your head?
Or are you actually one of those people who keep telling minorities to just take it and not make a fuzz? And the whole 'kids' movie' excuse doesn't really fly here, Zootopia did that very same concept but a hundred times better and way more respectful two years ago.
Plus, Eliza wasn't going to 'bomb the school', where the hell did you get that from? So she was going to sabotage a competition, big deal. Not like her and the other Zombie-kids were being subjected to way worse over the duration of the movie.
Justme first off, I don’t know why you sound pissed just because I said something that is opposite to your opinion
Second, I don’t understand how you say Eliza “minority”
I didn’t mean to say since she’s woman with color, you just gotta accept it
Like, no
I don’t see characters like that
I just see people only with their behaviors, their actions are more important to me
I don’t care character’s gender or race
I don’t understand why people suddenly see the whole film this way
I simply said the movie was trying to send a message, “when you make a change, you shouldn’t approach it with violence”
Also the example for Zootopia here is not so great
Sure, I love Zootopia and I know they did better job, but the thing is, the main targeted audience is really different.
Zootopia is made from Disney animation “film” studio which has more potential for larger audience to go and see it since Disney company itself is mostly famous for Disney animation studio, not Disney channel
Zootopia is not a “kids movie”
It’s a film for “family”
Kids AND adults, but the message itself is mainly for adults
So it’s slightly more targeted to adults
Kids and family films are different btw
That’s why I said this film is for kids/family, but for Disney channel films, it always has been more slightly targeted to kids even if the adults watch it too
Because this is only gonna air on TV not the movie theater
So I guess..they make “less” effort but Disney also know adults are gonna watch it too so they keep putting these kinds of messages to keep the adult audiences (also because usually people who see Disney channel directly comes from growing up watching Disney animation films)
But the message itself was always not meant for adults to “analyze” it
Since they also want new kid audiences too
It’s part of business
List of ten-sin musicals:
2012: From Justin to Kelly
2013: Love Never Dies
2014: Spice World
2016: Glitter
2017: Beauty and the Beast the Enchanted Christmas
2019: The Mighty Kong
2019: Z-O-M-B-I-E-S
Thanks for keeping tabs on the worst ever musicals reviewed by Diva! It seems that 2015 and 2018 were the only years that have escaped the dreaded 10 sin rating thus far!😱
Wow. I can't believe this made it into the infamous Ten Sin Club.
If you could pick a worst musical from 2010, 2011, 2015, and 2018, we could have a list of the worst musical for each year from this decade. I think Z-O-M-B-I-E-S, beats out "The Enchanted Christmas" for 2017.
Musical Hell wasn't in existence until 2012, so there aren't any episodes from 2010 and 2011
love never dies is a jam...
also the whole idea of eliza being framed as bad for wanting to actually take action against prejudice is even more yikes considering she seems to be the only zombie who's actually played by a person of color, with the white members of the cast telling her to just be nice to her oppressors...
How would you know? There could easily be people of colour playing background zombies (not the zombies in the room), paint is being placed on skins after all.
@@blindlobster She's the only zombie who is _visibly_ "of color"?
...There's no non-awkward to turn person-of-color into an adjective, is there?
Did you really expect anything less from modern-day Disney? They're only playing the "woke" card 'cause they think it sells, but they sure as hell aren't going to put any sincere effort into it.
Cartoon Critique *Disney: We’ll Be Woke, If It Earns Us MONEHHHH*
@@dailygeek1334 AMEN!!!
My problem is literally the makeup. The only thing consistent about the makeup is that it's remarkably inconsistent.
That and they look nothing like zombies...they just look like bad Joker cosplayers. XD
They really had the chance to create sickeningly green and "just slightly off" dark around the eye looks for the zombies, but here we are. With eyeliner and a lotta white concealer.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one bothered by this. And it's SUPER inconsistent in the jump from the first movie to the second, it's ridiculous
Gotta love how "Zombie" translates into "Bad Jared Leto Joker Cosplay." It's their skin that's supposed to be green, not their hair.
I guess they used the DisneyCom budget on Descendants and had to cut corners.
Alternative title: "If Bright was a musical that's trying to be Bring it on"
Alternate title, "Night of the Living *DAMN IT, DISNEY!"*
@@eatatjoes6751 Alternate Alternate title "Lukewarm Bodies." (nothing worse than something that tastes lukewarm really. :P )
@@Heavenlyhounds96 You got me there.
U R B A N G A N G S T A F L A V A
@@cannibalisticrequiem AAAAA
Why do characters never tell the truth? When the guy said “if you ever touch my cousin again”, why did she not say “He didn’t” before she was pulled away?
Easy, so that it could serve as a weak attempt of conflict!
Because that scene was written as a plot point, first and foremost. The character motivations and circumstances justifying the point were filled in later.
@@trinaq Vampire Diaries most commonly-used "Trick" in short. (The show is interesting for its use of vampires, lycanthropes, etc...
But the constant hiding of truths and "SUPER DUPER SECRETS"...plus the villains all being the same basically, lost my interest fast.)
Because these filmmakers didn't care. They just wanted to make a huge cash in on the whole diversity thing and have it be full of sterotypical dumbos. Writing sterotypical people is not too bad, just as long as you make them interesting, well written and likeable characters. None of these people didn't want to make chances. Most of Disney Channel movies are cheap, lazy, and cheaply insult children's intelligence. Here is an example of the movie's concept working well: Warm Bodies, directed by Johnathan Levine. It's funny, it's exciting and it's heartwarming, as opposed to this piece of forgettable garbage, which is not funny, not interesting and most certainly not fun!
So this movie is Descendants crossed with Warm Bodies?
When Disney runs out of ideas....
At least Warm Bodies is sort of Ironic about that
And warm bodies was still better.
Warm Bodies is a decent flick and was pretty self aware... but yeah, it's pretty clear that they were trying to rip it off with this
@@primrosett besides, Warm Bodies came at the era of Twilight, with everybody hoping for a mushy, cringy romance, the movie kept it safe with casual relationships and, well, trying not ot bullshit it, a way where "love saves the day" but in a way that arguably makes sense.
@@primrosett Warm Bodies at least knew it was silly, and went with it. Even the book has a tongue in cheek vibe.
Zombies (I'm not spelling it like the title) just comes off like a cash grab.
If you want a musical that teaches you how to stand up for yourself, letting your freak flag fly and advocating for the freedoms involving minorities, you’re better off watching Hairspray. Which, after seeing this case, is exactly what I intend to do.
The final dance sequence is just a cheap knock-off of Hairspray!
Or watch Puffs, one of the most underrated plays of all time.
@Digicraftmon the Crystal Gem Spongebob rules!!
Hairspray had the same message and it was done in a much better way. In other words, John Travolta in a dress delivered the anti-racism message in a far better way than this mess. Quantum Leap also shared the anti-racism message on occasion in a far more convincing way and actually knew what it was talking about and that show is 30 years older than this movie!
Now that you say it, it has been a while since I saw that movie
My life was richer not knowing that this movie existed.
I disagree. "Disney made a zombie musical" is hilarious, no matter _how_ bad that musical is.
@@timothymclean They're seriously getting desperate at this point.
It's almost offensive how the opening for this movie is basically the opening credit sequence of iZombie. It's the exact same comic book animation style, with the same "how the zombies happened" plot, the way only some elements in the shot move, and the panning out from a single object to the main shot. So absolutely nothing about this movie is original...
I feel like that comic book opening for Zombie media came from the walking dead or that zombie video game, The Last of Us (?)... its been years so correct me if I'm wrong
@@george_yassington iZombie was originally a comic book series beginning in 2010. The only thing the show has in common with TWD is the zombies; they're entirely different concepts and art styles. TLoU was released in 2014.
@@p0lyxena I knew it was a comic book series. I just can't remember if the walking dead show started out with comic book esque opening sequence or if I'm confusing that with the video game version of the walking dead. Hell, I could be thinking about the opening for Izombie. The Zombie era of media is kind of a blur for me
I’m confused? Can the zombies sexually reproduce? If they do sexually reproduce with a zombie will the child be a human or a zombie? Do the zombies age? I have many questions
(achoooo) Twilight!
If they're zombies, then that means they're technically dead. The virus or disease or whatever kills the host and 'revives' them, only using the most basic parts of the brain like basic, sluggish movements and hunger. That's why the body rots, because the parts of the brain in charge of maintaining cell growth isn't a basic priority. The reproductive system isn't activated because it isn't a basic priority.
Basically, these aren't zombies, rather people who have been possessed by a virus.
Its a dcom movie who fricking knows
I guess if two zombies can have sex and make a baby in Dead Alive/ Brain Dead then why not. 😉 lol And if Descendants taught us anything, every character in the Disney Verse can have a kid -even zombies lol...
God forbid a DCOM encourage you to think
2019 is the first year where we've had two ten-sin cases within the SAME YEAR as well as the first time where two ten-sin cases have published ONLY within four months of each other. It's also the first ten-sin case to be published in a fall month
Wow, that's got to be a new record for Diva. There's a movie musical that's worse, or at least on par with "Mighty Kong" in terms of awfulness!😉
Yeah but we didn’t have one in 2018 so I guess that’s to make up for it
Your rant about Eliza wanting to something productive to help her people made me think of this summer, when my parents and I went to a Pride Parade in our city. On the way home, my mom said something to the effect of “there are so many people who just cause trouble and break laws and you don’t actually change things by causing trouble” and I reminded her of the suffragette movement where women did break laws and caused a lot of trouble and kicked a riot because they wanted to vote, which she acknowledged was true and we agreed that sometimes you need to get angry and do more than shout “This is bad!” at a problem and hope the higher ups will listen to you.
On a side note, my mom is not racist or homophobic or anything, she explained that she meant people who don’t want actual change, they want to cause trouble.
There are people who will try for reason, but when those in "charge" don't listen to reason and diplomacy...you may need to use force to get your point through their thick-as-brick skulls. (Think the French Revolution or even American Revolution).
Unfortunately in today's society, the more vocal, focused group is the plain psychotic, possibly sadistic people who give any real protestors/"rioters" a bad name because it's much easier and more profitable to group the good revolutionaries/catalysts with the plain nutcases together. (I still remember that Baltimore "riot" years ago in Early summer I think).
How is it causing trouble to have a Pride parade?
Kit Whitfield On no, it wasn’t about the Pride Parade itself, but there were some group of Anti Fascism group marching in the parade that- from what my parents told me- cause more trouble and fights than do anything positive. People who apparently hate the police (not police brutality, just the police) and want the government gone. I don’t know, something like that. But my parents are not against Pride Parades or anything like that.
@@Kamechan98 "Apparently" being the operative word there...
Timothy McLean Well, I saw apparently because I had never heard about them before the parade and haven’t heard much about them since, so I have to take my parents word for it.
My parents had a dead cat thing before they started dating. It wasn’t their first meeting but it was pretty early. My mom accidentally killed the neighbor’s cat after it crawled into her engine (always check your car during winter for animals). After hearing about it, my dad gave her a book called, “101 Things to do with a Dead Cat”. She eventually got even by the sheer number of cats we have had over our lives (as many as 13 for a couple of years), most dieing of old age!
My cats have died of old age, pesticides, and one got shot by some teen trying to kill me
takkycat Well at least one of them didn’t manipulate the others unresolved daddy issues Phantom of the Opera style. We all know how well that ended... 😂
@@lehahiah81 that escalated
Not gonna lie, the coach's pep talk had me CACKLING
I wonder why their team kept losing...
the only good part of the movie tbh
“Coach Zerofucks” 😂
Better than 'Movie 43'? I should hope so.
So basically Disney remade Descendants but stole the story from the movie Warm Bodies.
Warm Bodies was better than this, too. It wasn't good, of course, but better than this.
@@Ultimation12 actually warm bodies was pretty good. It should have been darker like the book, but it was good.
Not surprised...remaking old shit and ripping off other people's stories is about the only thing Disney knows how to do nowadays. XD
@@cartooncritique6625 And the cartoons that dared to be original are treated like pure crap unless they're Phineas and Ferb or Ducktales!
Included the ghetto
The worldbuilding in this movie raises so many questions.
Such as?
How do zombies reproduce, aren't they walking corpses??? If zombies can age, they become old... Do they die again??? Do the "original" zombies have memories of their past, or do they have new minds??
1) is it like this in every state 2) If the bracelets are the only thing keeping them from eating people then the humans have every right to hate them wouldn't it make much more sese to ditch the bracelest and say there are nice zombies and evil zombies
there doesn't seem to be any disadvantage to being a zombie in this world. They don't fall apart or rot and they have super strenght why don't they just all become zombies.
@@WolfRider2002 I'm black and I think this movie is cheesy and asinine.
Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, Rosa Parks, and Ida Tarbell didn't fight against the system for this to be created in the Year of our Lord 2019.... smh
Plus the film's pulling of the "if you do this, you are no better than them" card reminds me of King's condemnation of white moderates in a letter he wrote from Birmingham Jail in 1963: i.redd.it/3v0abw1y8g321.jpg
If Eliza was generally trying to hurt someone to make her point then that speech would’ve made sense but a Disney Channel movie wouldn’t to go that far 😒
Diva: thank you for your comments for Sin #10, where you point out that protesting injustice is okay if you don't upset anybody and just remain a quiet model minority until enough privileged people take pity on you. Thank you for that!
Earlier this year, I caught a few minutes of The 700 Club where a preacher was essentially praying this: "Lord, about the victims of racial prejudice, please don't let them become bitter..."
Now I admit that I didn't hear the whole prayer. What I heard, however, was a so-called minister of the gospel missing out on praying that his assumedly majority-White audience would give up being so racist, and instead prayed that People of Color wouldn't get so angry and bitter about the racism they're being subjected to--which certainly lets his majority-White viewership off the hook. I call that a missed opportunity.
Decades ago, on this same show, the host said that liberals got it wrong in the way they fought for civil rights back in the 1960s, that they should have waited for people's hearts to change so they would be ready for those changes. By that same logic, we Americans back in 1776 should have waited until the British's hearts had changed and they readily granted us independence.
You're right: a show like this mollycoddles people of privilege into thinking that things are okay and that minorities have to make themselves acceptable enough for privileged people to embrace.
Wow, that's a HUGE yikes. I'm white so I can't speak for minorities of course, but I think you're right. He's just letting people off the hook for being awful and letting them feel ok for being complaisant at best about the inequality against fellow humans. Gross.
There's a disturbing amount of segregationism in D-com musicals...
I know, it's alarming that segregation is even being addressed in a Disney Channel movie, of all things! 😮
The fact that the oppressed class are non-humans doesnt help either
Considering how Zombies are resurrected corpses, I’m curious as to who these Zombies were before they died and came back.
@@johnvinals7423 They might be similar to the Zombies in iZombie...
The zombies in this movie are supposed to be grandchildren(?) of the zombies from the original apocalypse--and no, I do not know how zombies reproduce and I refuse to devote any brain power to the question.
I’m so glad I’m not the only who hates this movie. Seriously, the zombies are straight up Joker cosplayers! And everyone else is pastel tumblr fuel
I know, right?
Jared Leto looked better. God, that was hard to say...
I wonder what statement they're trying to make with the pastel football uniforms and the pastel costumes and scenic design in general.
@@MelanieNLee I think they’re going for a stepford-esque “conform or die” type aesthetic
@@artemisfowldragon Hmm...interesting thought...
Really, doing a segregation allegory with Zombies is actually pretty tasteless, since Zombies stem originally from Voodoo folklore, where they represent the horrors of mindless slavery even after death. It was Hollywood who made them into flesh-eating monsters, often combined with a good measure of racist imagery.
Most definitely nothing you can dissolve with some sloppy sentiment and white makeup on your actors.
I'd argue it works about as well as a racism allegory with orcs (who Tolkien explicitly based on the "least lovely Mongol types". Which is to say, it can be potent when done well, but adds an extra patina of cringe when done poorly. Which is usually, because neither the demographics who usually write mainstream media nor the people watching the bottom line are comfortable with serious critiques of non-cartoonish racism.
I would argue that both cases COULD work zootopia-style, if the zombies and orcs were the oppressors, not the oppressed.
Fermin Tenava there’s also that in the movie the zombies can easily loose control if their watches are broken or hacked, with is portrayed to be very easy in the movie, this adds a lot of horrible implications
@@fermintenava5911 I prefer vampires for that sort of allegory. Orcs and zombies are associated with ethnic minorities; vampires are associated with the aristocracy. A world where ugly, almost (if not wholly_ subhuman Others culturally associated with non-dominant demographics wreak bloody havok on the white protagonists is _very_ different from one where pale, aristocratic monsters do the same.
Glad somebody else has done they're homework on zombies. Hollywood essentially just took zombies and mixed them up with vampires and ghouls. -__-
The girl's white hair just makes me think of iZombie.
*Edit*
Okay that in mind it would have worked if the hair color was cause of some recessive zombie genetics. Which makes sense to why her parents want it kept hidden and makes Bucky's threat to expose her all more threatening.
That is assuming they can think that far ahead
Here’s the thing though, there’s no association between zombies and white hair. If they’d made it a distilled shade of green, or anything near the zombies’ hair (because they just made them all white??? Melanin doesn’t just fuck off when you die wtf Hollywood) then that’d make sense
Actually now that I think about it the prologue is pretty similar to the opening credits....was...Disney trying to make “iZombie but for kids”?
So here's a timeline of all of Diva's 9-10-sin reviews
2012: From Justin to Kelly
2013: Love Never Dies
2013: The King and I
2014: Spice World
2015: Tentacolino
2015: Walking on Sunshine
2015: Burlesque
2016: Glitter
2016: Christmas is Here Again
2017: Strange Magic
2017: Sci-fi High: The Movie Musical
2017: Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Chrismas
2018: Sextette
2019: The Mighty Kong
2019: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Coming Out of Their Shells
2019: Z-O-M-B-I-E-S
In total, that's 16 reviews. That's 18% of films she has reviewed that she has qualified as "unusually awful" or anger-inducing terrible.
Wow, two 9-10 ratings in a row!😮 Let's hope that the next case is somewhat more bearable!
In fairness, most mediocre musicals don't get sent to hell. And one or two of the 2019 reviews were Patreon-requested low-budget crap, which tend to accumulate more issues than mainstream musicals (if only by virtue of not spending enough time polishing any ideas before they're jammed into the script).
haha oh what fun
Trina Q My reaction exactly!!
Her hair-thing would make more sense if she had green hair because she is half Zombie or something like that because.....this dark secret is crap
alternative title: Zombieo and Juliet
Alternative title: Zombieo and Zombiet!
Alternatively alternatively, Zombie-No and Zombie-Nyet
Weird unrelated fun fact: Zombie is the title for the movie Re-Animator in Japan...although that’s giving my unsettling images in the process admittedly LOL
Which is a worse verison of Romeo and Juliet: This or Romeo and Juliet sealed with a kiss?
You forgot that this is based on “Zonbies and Cheerleaders”, which you can see on the credits right before the Verdict.
I wanna believe that this is the reason why Zootopia ditched the whole "Shock Collar" plot point in it's production.
Boy, even THAT would have benn better. ¿Why? It's not Disney Channel.
Wow, this movie is like the worst of 5 genres.
Horror: Don't look at me.
Romance: Either.
Documentary: Please no.
Science Ficcion: Bye bye
Drama: *Suicide*
Imma be real with you; I thought Addison's dark secret was that she was a quarter zombie, and that one of her grandparents had been a zombie--which could explain her white hair and overwhemingly controlling parents. After all, if one if them managed to escape the zombie ghetto, it's now a family secret. My thought kinda went like: Bucky and Addison have the same grandmother, but Bucky's family line is fully human, whereas Addison's family line stems from the grandmother being impregnated by a zombie....the same zombie who bit off her grandfather's ear. It's a little wrought out and silly for a Disney movie, but I thought it would've been cool, especially considering how much their Grandfather's Accident was mentioned in the film.
Honestly that wouldve been actually pretty cool if they had incorporated it into the movie
message from the future: in Zombies 3, Addison's revealed to be one quarter space alien
It doesn't help that the Zed looks like Jared Leto's Joker from Suicide Squad either.
Hey,that's a insult to Jared Leto, at least his act could be explained
"Coach Zerofu*ks". Today is the day I fell in love with the Diva.
Hey stop your googo eyes!
Besides I started first! >:(
So basically Zombie Prom but with even worse music and without the occasional camp value? Seriously as much as I despise Zombie Prom, I can't decide if it's actually worse than this.
I will say, it's more than a little hilarious to see a guy kneel before a makeshift altar and begin an invocation to the Cheer Spirits with the seriousness of "Thou, nature, art my goddess"
I haven’t seen the movie, but that has to be the best part of the move we’ve been show in this.
Especially since the actor was having so much fun and giving it his all.
I'm just wondering if the metaphor breaks down when you think "if unregulated by the wristbands, aren't the zombies natural impulse to consume and destroy?" which is not the same in terms of minority/race/cultural differences and acceptance, because it's actually a valid reason to have limitations of access. If it's a fact that these people *will* snap and eat you if unchecked, that's like saying it's a face that [insert minority here] ARE inherently dangerous and pose a real threat to your livelihood if unchecked. idk. I just feel like it's a fine line to tread on the sympathy-for-the-monster allegory, because it implies that there *is* a monster, at least when it's not hammered home that it's the societal FEAR of them/their culture that has more of an impact on their actions and upbringing than an actual murderous imperative.
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The villain character looks like Josh Peck
How did you comment this two days ago the video was only released like an hour or so ago?
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He looks like discount Ralph Macchio
EYTPS He looks a lot like David Henrie from Wizards of Waverly Place to me.
I'm a tall guy with gray hair. This movie needs a crossover with Tall Girl
Except tall guys aren't considered "freaks". In fact, many women refuse to date guys who aren't tall.
Now, if you were a short guy, or even a little person like Warwick Davis or Peter Dinklage.
I feel kinda bad for the actor playing Zed, he has some on-screen charisma and seems like he _legit enjoys_ being in this.
Can we just leave paranormal romance to Wizards of Waverly Place? 😂😂😂
If I answer that question, it will ruin movies for you in the near future...
Omg I love both replies 😂
Tbh twilight ruined vampire romance
That show was hysterical
Samantha Elford yep
Only WoWP can accomplish a good cross-species relationship
Sin #1: I’m still surprised as to just how lazy and unoriginal this story is.
Sin #2: Doesn’t everyone wish they were watching “West Side Story” instead of this?
Sin #3: Especially since the actress playing Addison in particular sounds so bored and disinterested about what she seems to think as something that could RUIN HER LIFE!!!!
Sin #4: You know in the original Haitian mythology, Zombis were created by bokors (think Doctor Facilier) to serve as slaves. And that’s almost always how racial oppression starts. The ruling class makes up myths and lies to dehumanise the people they want to exploit for power and resources. It’s rarely just about actual ignorance or fear caused by cultures not understanding each other.
Sin #5: Can you imagine how much weaker “Hunchback of Notre Dame” would have been if instead of persecuting the Romani (an actual real-world people historically oppressed in Europe), Frollo was going after Elves or Fairies or Witches.
Sin #6: That would require a deeper understanding of prejudice other than “People are scared of what they don’t understand”.
Sin #7: That looks like a Big-Lipped Alligator Moment.
Sin #8: Gotta love how little they thought out this premise beyond the bare minimum of effort.
Sin #9: Hot Take! If the majority of this film’s cast died from a superflu, it would probably be a much, much better movie.
Sin #10: To be fair to the writers, this is the tamest racial-supremacist dystopia ever. The worse they do is Very Generic Cartoon Segregation and they seem willing to stop being prejudiced when the Zombies do what they want.
John Vinals I'm torn between "West Side Story" and "Romeo Must Die". That being said, how come there hasn't been a "Romeo and Juliet" story with the KKK and the Black Panther? It sounds weird but wouldn't that sound like a much better take on the story than this "Zombies" schlock?
Yes, that would indeed sound like a MUCH better take on the story!
Kieran Stark What are you talking about here?
@@johnvinals7423 Your idea/vision of how Z-O-M-B-I-E-S could have been made.
What vision was that?
Can we NOT have a disney movie where they try to say some "Progressive" moral about diversity or gender equality, but never advocate for any actual social change b/c that would hurt their bottom line? AKA any disney live action reboot.
yknow with main girl's white hair i thought the end twist would be " oh shes half zombie" or something
So the wig that Meg Donnelly (Addison) wears is the natural color and length of her hair but because of the white hair thing she had to wear a wig that still looked like her actual hair for consistency the whole time
If you see one Disney teen musical then you've seen them all.
DeadlyMargiKarp223 What about "The Cheetah Girls"?
Jennea Cubero For the most part Disney movies are very generic and soulless but every now and then, they do make an amazing movie.
The same old formula we’ve seen over and over again.
Chose your side:
Zombies - egdy Joker cosplayers
Humans - Jojo Siwa cult section
Fuck that! (becomes a werewolf)
I could live with the terrible execution of their allegory but the thing is, Disney gave a reason to fear their poc-standins. Fearing Zombies is rather reasonable because they do EAT PEOPLE when uncontrolled. There was never any reason to hate people of colour. There wasn't an explanation as to why black people were hated so much (other than their skin colour, which I don't consider here because stupid). Black people aren't and weren't dangerous or to be feared at all.
Maybe it's just me taking everything too literal but making Zombies well, zombies is taking away from the actual issue. Because again Zombies eat people so there's a reason why this system was created. There is a reason why they live in Zombietown. There is a reason they have curfues (spotting a zombie who's Z-Band broke is probably much easier at daytime and failing to do so would be hazardess). So is visually marking them through clothes. So that if something goes wrong their prey has a better chance of survival.
All of that cannot be applied to people of colour.
Love how when Eliza is saying, keep in mind with extreme passion, “we need to rise up.” while looking down and weakling punching the air. You can tel she REALLY cares.
Question, why do the zombies look like they should be related to the Joker?
Because if the zombies look "black," viewers will assume that they are supposed to represent black people. If the zombies look "asian," viewers will assume that they are supposed to represent asian people etc. So the zombies needed to look as separate from (all) people as possible. Green hair helps with this.
@@blindlobster Fair enough. Though it would work that way if they were just rotting corpses like normal zo-oh right, Disney channel romance.
It represents how they live in a society.
Because lazy
@@blindlobster Why not have green-ish skin? That's what they did with the Hulk... after he was grey
The "redness and irritation" has some horrible implications after the tinder comparison was brought up
To Bucky’s credit, his actor is the only one who seems to be having fun with his role
2:16 Wait wait wait. The "dress code" thing... An identifying patch sewn onto the clothing of a marginalized social group who's cloistered from everyone else in a ghetto...
*No uncomfortable historical parallels here, nope*
"The doctors think it's some rare genetic thing."
Sweetie, it's called premature greying, and if Patrick Stewart can lose his hair at 19 and become famous and successful, I think you'll be fine.
Premature graying runs in my family; I've had a skunk stripe in my hair since I was 12.
Z-O-M-B-I-E-S?
more like Y-I-K-E-S
"My entire race has been held captive from society and everyone is disgusted by my mere existence as we live our lives in oppression, but please , tell me how hard it is to have white hair.
Yeah, Addison complaining about her white hair is like thin people barging into conversations about systemic fatphobia and talking about how hard it is to be thin because someone called them a “twig” one time.
Or as I still like to call this one; The Undead's Re-Telling Of Both Twilight And High School Musical.
Also take a drink everytime you hear "Descendant" forcing Devia to still do Descendants 3 already!
Both would be preferable to watching this weak allegory of racism. We'd likely end up in the emergency room before long while playing THAT drinking game!😅
@@trinaq love your avatar btw. (Probably top...7 musicals I've seen. Certainly 10)
“Coach Zero Fucks” 😂😂😂 I’M DEAD
3:46 I was thinking more Rogue from the X-Men movies, but that works too
And suddenly Bucky wasn't racist anymore
we did it guys, racism is no more
Why do I have a feeling that this might have worked better as anime plot for some reason?
I mean... There's the fact that animation can get away with more than live action. There's also the fact that typically anime on serious topics that deal with race in a non- jokey way ( i.e. aren't racist and make fun of other minority groups) are pretty good from what I can remember
Ever heard of "Tokyo Ghoul"?
I kinda wanna make that now,,,,
Why is everything pastel pink and green?!
Because this movie is confusingly weird.
And why does everyone have to have a watch?
No, you don't understand, Addison does have a dark secret--her natural hair looks like a wig from the costume store round the corner
The wig Addison wears looks more neutral than her real hair
GO BACK TO PARYY CITY WHERE YOU BELONG, WIG!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Before you play the But-Kids-Movie! card..."
And then you bring up Zootopia, which was EXACTLY what I was thinking when you started talking about this point. lol
What exactly was that one zombie girl's plan to sabotage the cheer championship? She said she was going to "tear it all down", but what does that mean? It's one thing to simply be a bother and forcing people to take notice of an issue, but if she's trying to HURT people... that IS a problem, isn't it?
That's the thing, it's never explained what exactly Eliza's "sabotage" would entail.
I remember watching this with my little brother, and when they said the thing about the lime soda, we just burst out laughing. We still have inside jokes about this movie.
Also, 16:41 basically sums up my entire life ngl
I love how green hair dye, red eye shadow, and hella pale foundation apparently make them zombies. Good way to portray zombies, Disney. Completely logical.
I'm angry at how interesting of a premise this is. We've done this civilization-tamed-the-monster bit a million times with vampires, but never zombies before. There is so much potential here! Did zombies have to relearn speech? Why couldn't they become re-civilized without the fitbit? What about the implications of relying on a psychotropic device that was undoubtedly created by the outgroup in order to reintegrate into society? What are the dangers of someone going full-zombie in a crowd of humans--could they get off on an insanity plea? This could have been "I Am Legend" (the book) meets "Daybreakers," but instead Disney got ahold of it
Yeah, that's would've been interesting.
Moral of the story: If you want a better racism allegory narrative, we got Hairspray, Ray, Star Trek, X-Men 90s, Zootopia, and Beastars.
Feel free to add more examples if I missed any.
Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance is another good example.
The romeo and juliet with Zombies plot was done much better by Warm Bodies.
Even Pride and Prejudice and Zombies is better than this one lol
Can you do a Musical Hell review on The Lion King 2019?
Oh yes, please. That remake serves as a quintessential example of why you should never attempt to "fix" something which wasn't even broken in the first place!😤
That film is the definition of “The same, but worse”
@@susanalopez5052 Considering that most Disney remakes try to change something to "improve" on the original's lazy-Internet-critic "flaws," while _The Lion King's_ remake tried to improve an _actual_ flaw but accidentally made it _worse_ (unless you accept the Thermian Argument), it's probably the best example.
Timothy McLean agre!!
One musical about racism which I LOVE is Hairspray.
THEY did it right!@ This final scene here looks like a cheap knock off of that!
I love Hairspray, too. It has likable characters, very good soundtrack and actually shows people protesting against injustice.
Maybe if these zombies DID eat brains they’d be smart enough to come up with a more original plot.
I knew from the moment Disney announcement for the movie came out it was going to be trash. They have lost a lot of weight on what is good in the world of the since Phineas and Ferb went off the air.
Also when they killed Wander Over Yonder and Penn Zero (I'm forever bitter)
@@mitkitty And put Milo Murphy's Law on hiatus to force the creators to make ANOTHER Phineas and Ferb movie!
WoY was my summer cartoon...in 2021. It was hard to find, but it was worth it
I think the worst thing is that... The characters who are black in the allegory are inherently dangerous. Zombies, if not controlled by the band, are dangerous. They'll eat people- they are like that by nature. Which... You know, isn't a good look.
the whole 'oMg look at my terrible flaw' reminds me of tall girl.
This movie is also a rip-off of "Fido", a 2006 zombie movie where zombies are fitted with collars that make them more complacent and curb their ravenous appetites, making them into pets and/or servants, & Disney thought no one would notice.
I've heard of that. Fido is a much better movie.
Why do the humans in this have the same aesthetic as the conversion therapy school in "But I'm a Cheerleader"?
Like that was a damn better movie than whatever dumpster fire this is.
You have the most absurd thumbnails, I love it
The sad thing is that there was a DCOM about actual racism: The Color Of Friendship is a movie about a white South African girl being billeted by an African-American family in the 1970s. It’s based on true events, although the white girl is actually a composite of two separate people the real family hosted. It even includes the word “kaffir”, which is pretty daring for a kids’ TV movie. This movie, OTOH, blows all its nuance in its attempts at being uplifting.
(Also, did you miss Wreck-It Ralph? There’s a similar attitude in both the Nicelanders’ treatment of Ralph and the racers’ treatment of Vanellope)
In wreck it ralph it made sense because he is the bad guy.
icecream hero Yes, but the movie makes it clear that that’s just a role, and the Nicelanders are actually wrong to antagonise him. It’s more justifiable when it’s Vanellope, because they think she’s not supposed to be there.
I loved that movie as kid. I would always watched it whenever it came on.
@@ikarikid True also he does look being and scarry if he was cute they wouldn't hate him.
icecream hero Vanellope was cute and they still hater her.
Recent events really put this movie in a worse light. Also multi-trillion dollar companies need to stop acting like minorities ask for this treatment or as long as they aren’t being hunted down, being treated like pets or novelties is something most of their target demographic would be ok with, on ether side of the argument.
Seeing this video in my mentions, it made this all the more uncomfortable.
Liberals only give a shit when it is "civil", and when it goes "too far", they cry wolf. This movie's conclusion is basically what I expect at best if liberals get their way again. They will go "oh, let's throw them a bone", and then this will happen in another decade, and the same people will complain, the state will increase their power and garner support from the "why aren't you civil!?!?" people, squash the resistance, and rinse and repeat.
Phantom of the opera/erik: literally has some of his brain showing
Adison: oh no! I have white hair, that makes me a tragic outcast
Why does Addison look exactly like the girl from Monsters vs Aliens with that white hair
I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that lmao
So, like Susan/Ginormica?
Every song in these Disney Channel musicals sounds like every other song.
Just like all their movies feel like every other movie.
@@cartooncritique6625 Yup. Haloweentown and Back to the Future? Totally the same.
@@jeremyusreevu237 I was referring to how all the Disney Channel movies all feel very much alike...last time I checked "Back To The Future" was not a Disney Channel movie.
@@cartooncritique6625 Ok.
@@cartooncritique6625 But, there are DCOMS that are different from one another. For example: Can Of Worms, Cheetah Girls, Camp Rock, and Phantom of The Multiplex are clearly all not the smae movie.
I think one of the most insulting things about this movie is that zombies are CLEARLY supposed to be an analogy for non-white people and the leads are clearly supposed to be an analogy for a mixed race couple but they couldn't find a non white actor to play Zed. Even though they had no problem finding black actors to play the radical activist and the nameless extras. They're trying to take a stand, but not in any way that could be mildly controversial. For Christ's sake, how hard is it to find a black actor to play the lead? The one we have right now isn't even likable!
*Even though they had no problem finding black actors to play the radical activist*
That character, in particular, was really insulting...well, scratch that. What's insulting is how she was framed. What I *think* they were going for was...a Killmonger-lite "Well-intentioned Extremist" who went too far, and...no, that doesn't work here. Killmonger *DID* go too far, and *DID* become exactly what he claimed to be fighting against (he was trained by the American military, invaded a sovereign African nation, violently overthrew its established government, destroyed elements of its culture, and planned to use its natural resources as tools of colonialism and war...kind of exactly what's happened to African countries IRL, and, in Black Panther's canon, is what their vibranium shield was protecting them from). The activist in this film just wants to protest unjust treatment that's an active threat to her and her community.
One question: how is Bucky not a sin?
Let me guess, it would be too obvious?
And somehow ironically he's the best character in the movie.
Keyword being ironically
@@panthertakamaki7141 No. That would be Coach Zerof**cks. Bucky is basically a genderswapped version of the blonde mean girl from HSM.
@@jeremyusreevu237 well him too. But Bucky was good until the end
0:27 - 0:31: "Sweet Lucifer! Let Cameron Boyce rest in peace for a bit, you vultures!"
Thank you! 👏
So in this universe, people learned absolutely nothing from the Segregation era? Once the fitbit things came into play, it seems like that should have been the end of it.
Dunes8 Fitbit?
@@jenneacubero1036 The Z-Band, which makes the Zombies stable.
Even though they could just stop working and start eating people very suddenly?
Logan Baldwin Especially given how easy it is for a bunch of teen to hack their bracelets. They should have just (allowing human adults to crossover to zombie land and live there at their own risk )kept the two species separated and just improved the conditions of the zombies.
Okay. I am finally at the point that I feel glad that I outgrew DCOMs.
So...
Was the person who wrote the music for this movie a... D-Composer?
(rimshot)
"You change the world through cheer."
That may be the worst line I've ever heard. Neither Hal Warren nor Ed Wood would ever put that in a screenplay. Groan.
HEDGE1011 Maybe Tommy Wiseau would:
*“If a lot of people loved each other, the world would be a better place.”*
Beethoven’s Fidelio OK, you've got me there!
What about these lines: ruclips.net/video/XgyWlN41yaI/видео.html
They should have made this the zombie version of Hamilton they even have a character named Eliza
That color scheme should have been the first sin. It looks like the clearance aisle at Bad, Blech, & Beyond
[e] -Okay wait. Bucky's "oh snap" gets its own sin. -_-THAT WAS UNFORGIVABLE.-_ scratch that, his entire character is heinous and whoever wrote it should feel bad
What Diva said about how the movie frames those who fight injustice are "just as bad" as their oppressors resonates in these times.
Minor point but the pastel green and pink colors are an eye sore even by Disney Channel standards. The pastels in general wouldn’t be such an issue to represent the Stepford suburbia thing ,but why this combination in particular. It’s something that reminds me of a watermelon slushie and not in a good way