SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS Economy Class【4K Trip Report Johannesburg to Cape Town】SHOCKINGLY Good!
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- Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
- Check out this 4K Trip Report & Honest Unsponsored Review on board a South African Airways Airbus A319 in Economy Class form Johannesburg to Cape Town.
Hi there! My name is Kevin and today we are going to take a look at the full South African Airways domestic economy class experience. Join me as we check out the airport in Johannesburg, the South African Airways Business Class Lounge, walk through the busy concourse, check out the details of the seat, take a deep dive into the on board experience, taste the surprisingly good food on offer and of course we will wrap it all up with The Flip Flop Score.
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Fare: $88.05 USD
Route: JNB-CPT
Class: Economy Class
Inclusions: 1+1 Carry On, 1 Checked Bags, On Board Meal
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--Video Chapters--
0:00 Flight Preview
00:10 Intro
00:30 Welcome to Johannesburg
00:44 Domestic Check In
01:11 South African Airways Lounge Tour
01:25 South African Airways: A Brief History
02:29 Route Map & Airline Relaunch
02:57 Our Gate, Boarding Begins
03:13 Our Flight Stats
03:35 Boarding
03:53 Stepping On Board
04:10 Economy First Impressions
04:21 Seat Details & Tour
05:16 Push Back & Taxi to Runway
05:35 TAAG Angola Bucket List
05:55 Our Take Off Route
06:10 Spool Up & Take Off
06:29 Meal Service Begins
06:55 Skytrax Joke
07:13 Descending into Cape Town
07:40 Our Final Approach & Landing
08:11 Taxi to the Gate
08:25 Deplaning
08:36 The Flip Flop Score
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We are so glad you enjoyed our service! We hope to see you again on board one of our flights!
Good luck with your channel!
@@tfftThank You!
As someone who lived in South Africa in the mid nineties and flew them transatlantic many times it’s great to see them begin to make a comeback. Unfortunately the government spending money without any meaningful change is kinda par for the course in ZA.
Hopefully, as far as airlines in ZA go, we can put that in the rear view mirror. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
They not making a comeback as they recently needed a bailout again of 1 Billion ZAR and continue to steal taxpayers money to keep them afloat. The quicker this racist institution goes under, the better.
SAA will never be like before 1994,i flew SAA Jan Smuts to Munich in July 2019 and was so surprised in the quality of the flight, before that i only flew Lufthansa or SWiss air to Germany, and to be honest the food was 10 times better than the mentioned airlines ,staff was pleasant
Thank you for this review. That is the SAA I remember, often better than just "world class". The airport lounges in ZA are miles better than any lounge I have experienced in Heathrow, JFK or Frankfurt. The loos at the Slow Lounge are immaculate. So pleased to see the airline is moving in the right direction
For the record JFK does have some pretty swish lounges these days- but yes, I'm also glad to see SAA on the Up and Up. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
SAA will never be like before 1994,
Um...How much are the lounges?
SAA is my all time favourite airline. The service is always great. I have flown on all their short haul products in both classes including their old 737-800s. I also have flown their A330-300 economy and it was great. Hopefully, they will go into triple figures in age. They should reinstate their Dar Route regardless of aircraft as Airlink is sometimes Unreasonable with times and policies.
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Imagine what a CEO of the calibre of Sir Tim Clark could do with this airline! A380 flights up to London and Amsterdam?
Good review.
I forget where i said it- maybe on a community post. But I think… if 5 years from now SAA is still expanding but perhaps haven’t left the continent yet, then we might see a long term success story. I don’t see any reason why they can’t have code shares and have LH group do the heavy lifting and then SAA just focuses on the region for a while. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Great seat selection, I love seeing the flaps coming out when landing.
Me too! 2-3 rows in front of the wing is always my choice in economy. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Just flown this route, great seats, crew & complimentary hot meal with drinks ❤
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As an SAA employee I just want to thank feedback of this video. So there is hope after the damage our incompetent government under Zuma-era has caused.
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but the chances of SAA ever flying again the full international routes is very slim,as we all know once you have lost your time slot routes like SAA had to the US and EU countries Australia it can take up to 10 years and longer to get it back, and SAA gave back most of its Airbus planes , as far as i know it only has 2 A340, flying the Dakar and Cape Town route, could be wrong
Love the review. I watched out of order and did the 2022 trip review awards first lol. The SAA business class is so odd! That 3x2 config seems to make the aisle really narrow? I don't know if I'll ever get a chance to visit South Africa so thanks for taking us along!
Wasn't any narrower than normal since the 2-3 seats were certainly narrower themselves than standard 2-2 seats. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
it is generally 2 - 2 on the A320s 3 -2 on the A319. For local routes economy is fine, I've used miles sometimes when expiring to put myself up front. Their wide bodies have a comfy business class.
That business class is on their A319s, the A320s generally have a 2 - 2 config in business class which is much comfier.
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SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWASYS Is Not That Bad.Great Work
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its not the airline, its the government fault for bringing in beee,its caused everything to collapse
Love ur vids
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Short but sweet! 🎉
Sweet indeed! Thanks as always for the support
The Saa longe was open during bankruptcy as well cuz of the card holders
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The downfall of SAA is much more complex than that, and largely originated in the endless meddling of incompetent politicians, who simply do not understand how to run an airline - and it should actually have been shut down completely, before it abused the poor South African tax payer as much as it did with endless bailouts. Even now the transaction with the Takatso consortium is not complete, and if one looks at the structure of that group, it still means the government owns most of the airline - so those bailouts are not going to stop. For many South African's, myself included, who do not fly on SAA on principle because of this, the view is that it is best to simply shut it down. The people working there (if they are not on strike) will find work as the market gaps will be filled by private enterprises. Maybe Comair/British Airways, will make a return - competent, knowledgeable people there ran a good, profitable, operation until covid hit, but unlike SAA, did not get financial assistance and ended up being shut down.
Sure, the full history could never be covered in 2 minutes- I just wanted to give a bit of context for my viewers. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
@@tfft Of course - I understand that - just felt it needed a bit of additional commentary!
Incidentally, those A350's were not quite "brand new" - I flew on one - outside it said "SAA", inside it was pure Hainan airlines - all in red. Even the moving map showed the A350 in Hainan livery! In the short period they were part of SAA (in this case courtesy of covid - not their doing), I don't think SAA ever managed to change the interior to their own colour scheme, etc.
as much as i agree with you that it should be shut down of which we all know it never will be as it is an easy milking cow for the corrupt ANC cadres its been proven that if a country does not have a national carrier other airlines make misuse of the system and raise their prices of which can be seen when booking a flight out from Jan Smuts airport to Germany, its around 6/7000 Rands more expensive now, British airlines price for certain times can be as much as R 25000 with two booked seats on the economy, thye use the excuse of the demand has become higher,,,
Thanks
JAL has 2x3 biz in some 737-800s from what I’ve seen.
Interesting! I'll have to check them out. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Nice review but some of your text graphics were very busy and hard to watch unless you paused the video 😊😊
Yah, I’m a fan of trial and error haha. As you see videos coming over the next weeks you’ll see the graphics becoming a bit more refined and clear. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Thank you so much for sharing. I couldn't stop laughing when I heard the 18 months story.....combining this one with the LH 5 stars rating due to promising a new business class product....... ha ha....ha ha ha.....ha ha ha ha....
I think LH was downgraded? Maybe that was just a hopeful dream I had lol. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Meals on an economy ticket that's a good one
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You so fancy, more Y class TR pls. ❤❤
Many published already and many more on the way. Thanks for watching 🩴
Business class is 2-3 config?
Sure is.
CPT-MIA was one of SAA's better routes. Being on the coast allows planes to take off very heavy and fully fueled. JNB's high altitude meant that only their A340-600 could fly non-stop to the US. CPT to the US didn't have that problem. It was rank corruption and moronic routes to Beijing, Mumbai and Abu Dhabi that wrecked them.
Better in what metric? I'm sure the seats were full, but both MIA and CPT- especially back then- are/were low yielding markets.
@@tfft My father flew that route several times in the 00s. MIA like ATL is a huge hub despite not being one of the biggest cities. Traffic between the 2 countries will always be hub and spoke as most flights between the two countries are over 15 hours. SAA could only do JNB-JFK in the A340-600 with about 80% of the seats sold to not exceed the MTOW for JNB's altitude. The IAD route stopped in Dakar or Accra for the outbound route in the A340-300 but could make the return flight without a fuel stop. In the 747 days the JFK flight stopped in Sal Island, Cape Verde. Even Delta's 777-200LR couldn't sell all the seats for their JNB-ATL flights. Now they alternate between a ATL-JNB-CPT-ATL triangular route and 2 separate flights depending on load factors at different times of the year as I believe the A350-900 has more severe MTOW restrictions for the 16+ hour flight out of JNB than the 777-200LR.
@@tfft But to answer your question more directly. You need to view the US, itself as the market, not the individual mid sized cities of ATL and MIA. MIA as you'll know is a massive hub, not just for a connecting flight anywhere in the US and Canada but also to the Caribbean and Central America. Since CPT is in the West of SA and at sea level, there's no MTOW restrictions and with such regular JNB flights, an urban area of 14 million, it just makes it an easy one stop option for most of the country to fly to a large American hub. Incidentally, United started flying to CPT before JNB after heavy lobbying from a Western Cape business association WESGRO for a direct flight from the US. EWR-CPT has been so popular since the pandemic that United has subsequently started EWR-JNB and IAD-CPT. American is currently being lobbied by WESGRO to start that same MIA-CPT flight. Incidentally, on a recent trip to London, the CPT-LHR used to fly many Americans on BA's large network of American cities. Now the flights are so expensive and with more direct flights to the US, fewer travelers use them that way. In Dec, the only chatter of a connection to the US I heard was about MIA. Heathrow staff were directing the passengers off the plane with signs to make their MIA connection in time. It's the only US city I heard talk of people connecting to.
but as far as i know, the China route was the best route financially or was it the India route, that is why the one CEO sold the route to Air China for a kickback, now only Air Chine flies that route
It is so sad to see that you mentioned JNB's largest airline is Airlink now (good for Airlink though). Before moving out of South Africa I used to do plane spotting there every other weekend.
Yeah I think it’s more about SAA’s demise than it is Airlink’s success. But, I think this is the best path forward SAA has had in a few decades, so fingers crossed. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Airlink has taken over completely, go look on flight radar 24 jnb and see every second flight is Airlink, Airlink has so many flights now to countries around SA, even CEMair of the Oppenheimer family are having slowly more flights, SAA itself is not the problem its the ethnic group running the airlines that the problem,
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Can you remember if the lounge had a smoking room?
Not a clue tbh
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Takatso does not own 51% of SAA. The deal was cancelled this week. SAA remains 100% State owned by the South African government.
Yes- and my video was not published this week lol
Fair enough, but the deal was never closed. The government was in discussions with Takatso for a very long time, but the deal was never concluded.
Another great review, I fear you are producing them more than I am keeping up.
I have to say that I don't agree with your optimism on them expanding. The management there and government is a failed process.
Compare to Ethiopian. Ethiopean will be getting a stake in them too no doubt.
I'll note that this was published a while ago- things have changed and so too has my optimism haha.
No Takatso deal
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“Beef or cow?”
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Only if SA wasn't hell bent on denying entry to well heeled Africans, this airline would have perhaps fared better.
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corruption caused the downfall of it, nothing else,
If you knew about the safety record of the “new” SAA you wouldn’t get on board. At least x 2 recent massive accidents which could have taken many 100s of lives have tried to be swept under the carpet. One aircraft even took off KNOWING the tanks were full of water contaminated fuel. They had at least 1 flame out and only just scratched in tie Cape Town. Appalling !!
Not swept under the carpet because I knew about them lol. Also, a massive difference between “accidents” and “incidents”… Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
just remember the fuel incident is not the carrier's fault,its typical of the new South Africa run by uneducated people, German aviation auth investigated the 2018 incident and found it to be pilot error as they were not trained on the newest software, close to 3 mid-air stalls took place over Switzerland due to the pilot forcing the nose upwards making the auto-pilot to disengage, and to think in July 2019 i flew the same route on SAA Munich Jan smuts airport, when i read the report i froze
Did someone say Skytrix? Doesn't Qatar Airways own that? 🤣
Well to be fair, QR is actually good though lol Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
i agree its very misleading, seems like something happening under the table, well so much corruption came out in the ZOndo commission about the food story with the selling of the contract to the company that supplies food to SWiss Air at jan smuts airport, can't remember the name of the company, "SWissport "
Sorry I only asked for the price from Cape town to O.R. Tambo....so what is this
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Umm… 🤔
Love CPT pls visit “Truth Coffee Roasting” best coffee in ZA. Scam Tracks continue misleading the public🤪🤪🤪
I'll check it out next time I'm in town. The two hotels I stayed at loaded me up quite well with coffee haha. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻