As a Local gentleman Our only focus now is to register for vote finish voting winner announced " check SAA again" we waiting for the Newly designed Airplanes that can save passengers Life's in any case on the Air , the new planes are cable of dislocating the cabin passenger from the cockpit Living the pilots to safe land whilst passengers are being Landed by the Passenger cabin with Parachutes 🤝🏾 until then __
We are so glad to be back and operating for 2 years already! With the help of the South African government we have begun growing, and plan on reintegrating the Airbus A350 into our fleet. Thank you for doing a video on our incredible aircraft.
This sounds like the type of replies you are forced by the dictators to post... "With the help of the South African government we have begun growing". gees the ANC now have self-praise bots.
If the cadre deployment and corruption don't stop so that competent people can run the airways the SAA will fail again. It's sad but all our SOE's are down the drain because of that
I would never S A A . Was a great airline that was hijacked by corrupt ANC cadres who still haven’t been charged with corruption. Wouldn’t trust the maintenance on old aeroplanes. I fly Emirates everywhere.
Corruption and Cadre Deployment were the two pilots that flew SAA into terrain, where it crashed and broke up on balance sheets. The few survivors now are teaching a dodo to fly. When they crashed into financial terrain, they took down others. Imagine that: once the world #1 airline, hijacked by the oligarchy.
As an Aussie since the mid 90s I have flown the Syd to Joburg route maybe 12 times. In the mid 90s Qantas and SAA used to code share and they would always land in Perth. Sometimes when you booked on Qantas the flight would be operated by SAA. I hated SAA flights because as soon as you got out of Australian airspace they would allow people to smoke and as non smokers that was horrible. Always flew SAA domestically in South Africa except on our last trip in 2019 when we had to fly from Durban to Joburg on a budget airline called Mango because due to covid it was the only airline we could get seats on. In 2003/4 I was working in Maputo and I dont think that SAA were code sharing with Qantas anymore as they were not an option. In 2018/19 I was again working in South Africa and Qantas flights from Sydney no longer crossed the continent to Perth they went south over the coast just west of Melbourne before heading way down into the Southern Ocean towards Antartica. They would come back up and cross the coast of South Africa at Richards bay the same as they did when coming across from Perth. I hope that SAA start flying to Australia again as Qantas needs to have some competition on that route airlines can charge you whatever they want when they have the monopoly.
What you don't comment on is the absolute incompetency of their new era management. Gross financial mismanagement and countless government bailouts and bankrupcy.
I am South African, and I flew with SAA recently. Never again. Crew is typically morose and unhelpful at best to rude. I had very high hopes for the “new” SAA. Turns out it was a false hope.
I flew to São Paulo on SAA 3 days ago. The cabin crew and flight crew were of different races (there were white faces in the mix - white pilot). Don’t be fooled by stupid narratives about how South Africa works.
My loveliest flights ever were on two of the vaka's of Air New Zealand. The staff were homely and hospitable in a most special way. One Maori (not mowry, Ma-ori) hostess exclaimed "oh, you're visiting the Rock!!" She beamed and smothered me with a hug, exclaiming 'Kia Orana, ka kite e kia manuia'
@@jumpinjackflash7140Not in this racist regime......this is what equality for all meant in the 1970s when all cried Free Mandela. Now it's free wifi (the poor thing!) and sugar free, though you don't get any 😂
@@TheNizzah1please farm the facts, or do you live under a rock? My white skin and a dangling groin prohibited me from even applying for a formal job for the last three decades, read the labour laws!!! Opinion is cranial flatulence.
It started with Coleman Andrews and just went downhill from there. My wife worked for SAA for 42 years before she was summarily dumped in 2020 so she has seen it all.
I don't believe SAA will ever return to its former glory of the 70s/80s/90s. Very sad. Pathetic, actually. A great airline taken down by corruption and mismanagement. 😢. We cross fingers.
@@EbagamAfricait’s not apartheid nostalgia, it’s reality, if the people continue to vote for parties that are corrupt and incompetent, SAA will never become as successful as it was
@@benhandelsman7360 That's the thing though, the party in charge shouldn't be affecting an airline to this extent. Cadre deployment isn't the norm but here we are. Hopefully this detrimental policy ends soon under any party so these Government companies can truly thrive better than they ever did in the post-Apartheid expansion (a lot of them had this post-Apartheid boom including Eskom but that was probably because they had to triple production so by most metrics including crime, the first post-Apartheid years were the best) But you're right, don't let the ruling party feel comfortable to win the next election so that they have the need to show progress like anti-corruption to not be ousted from power.
Thanks for this video but im a bit troubled by the pronunciations of the countries. Like Namibia you said "Nambia" its pronounced as "Na-mi-biya" and "Seychelles" is "Sea-shells" or "Say-shells" depends on which region you come from
I, as a South African living in S.A. was always happy to fly S.A. And then disappointed when flights were suspended. A nervous flyer, I experienced only excellent service. Would be happy to see them back in service.
SA’s economy is too weak to sustain South African Airways. Who are the shareholders? There is a culture of corruption and nepotism and over staffed, badly managed business Co Gov owned and Private, in South Africa. No reason not to fail again. Hopefully sooner this time.
lets hope SAA can get to where it should be, back at the top, for this we need professional, highly skilled staff, not based on race but on competence, and as it shows it can be run properly, further investment will come.
Basic ingredients needed are - well maintained aircraft , competent and experienced pilots , professional crew , tight control on staff bloat , no unions , alignment of purpose , tight financial controls , privately owned . In my view they have a score of 0 out of 8 .
Trust me Judging by the history of presidents after 2000 Ramaphosa was actually better compared to previous candidates and he did more for the country than any other president After all he inherited the country in a dire state, it was yet to fail Ramaphosa just delayed it
I remember my first flight as a teenager on the tin mouse was the best day of my life and my first whiff of avgas the best fragrance that my nose ever smelt,I hope to see the flag across the sky soon.
@jacquesleroux5069 So there will be more competition. Currently only Qantas has direct flights to Australia and they are milking the route with sky- high fares. SAA used to fly directly to Perth from Johannesburg. Hopefully they will return soon. The demand is certainly there.
@@jacquesleroux5069 why not? it is a major market opportunity to make more money if they're able to charge lower rates with decent quality flights. Even if it's just something for Summer.
they are currently flying directly to Perth from Johannesburg with the A330-300. They just re-introduced the route within this past month and i think it’s daily.
What are they doing with the good pilots and the maintenance crews they closed down , all things need maintenance and a plane much more than normal maintenance so not sure I'll fly with SAA
fixing bids, offers, bid-offer spreads, spot exchange rates, and the exchange rate at the FIX. Standard Chartered is one of 28 banks prosecuted by the Commission for manipulating the USD/ZAR currency pair.
There is a lot of negativity surrounding this airline. They’ve had a lot of problems, and that reputation has been hard to get rid of. Ask a South African about which airline to choose domestically, and the odds of them recommending SAA is slim to none. Regionally you don’t have much choice, and long haul they don’t really operate. However, having flown on SAA several times in the last year, I honestly can’t find much to complain about. In-flight entertainment is lacking on most flights, but that’s not a big deal for me. WiFi would be nice. Service is excellent - from the ticket counter through to the flight attendants. Everyone is extremely friendly and welcoming. It seems they are living up to their slogan - “those who know fly SAA”… I wonder how many of the people speaking so strongly against SAA have actually been on an SAA flight recently.
I have traveled SAA! And I cannot disagree with you more. The flight attendants were rude, to morose at best. The aircraft are old and dated. Service sucks, and I will not even touch the inflight food. I have had much better experiences with almost every single regional operator than I have had with SAA. On one flight, the stewardess banged her trolley into my knee so hard, that I was still limping days later. I asked her what she was doing, and I got cursed at. If that is what you consider good, then I don’t want to know what you consider bad. 6 flights out of six were terrible. Thank god I managed to persuade my company to abandon SAA.
@@phelansa23 I wonder… perhaps it’s the routes. I’ve flown SAA 6 times also - CPT-JNB and back. Guess that’s a pretty major route for them and they’d probably staff it with their best. Got super friendly treatment all the way, got let into a lounge I didn’t qualify for and got an upgrade on one of the legs. I fly around 50 times a year on average, so I’ve seen good and bad. SAA trumps Turkish imo simply because Turkish ground staff is incompetent and the airline can never be on time - cabin crew is great though. Flydubai is always late also, and charges for food on budget fares in economy. Qatar and Emirates are the best I’ve seen, and Singapore is a worthy mention. American is rubbish (flew first class with them). BA is a mixed bag but Heathrow is enough to put you off. Air Serbia cancels for no reason at the last moment and their customer service is non-existent. Copa and Avianca are okay and beat any US airline. Airlink crew seems to have no idea how to clean a plane, and FlySafair charges for food which is pretty lame even if you pay. As far as aircraft go, the age doesn’t really bother me as long as they’re well maintained. Guess that comes from my history with BA and their dinosaurs. I’ll admit that I’ve never been a fan of the new 737 ranges though. But I’m sure you’re telling the truth. I’m just curious how our experiences are so different.
@@lionelpinkhard I fly mainly to the neighbouring countries. Not internal flights. Lusaka, Nairobi, Blantyre, Windhoek, Lilongwe….. I found with Turkish airways, it is better to wake up AFTER the Stewardesses have had a chance to shave….. 😈
@@phelansa23 Guess they’re neglecting the African nations outside SA. Sad. I don’t usually have a need to fly between 2 African nations, so my international experience in Africa is mostly limited to Emirates. I’m okay with Turkish in the air, but their frequent late departures and ground staff who don’t seem to care annoy me. I got delayed 3 hours on a 50 min flight out of Istanbul for which I paid $2k because that was the only option. They claimed something with some passengers seats not being allocated correctly. I also really detest their policy of having complimentary upgrades board before full price business class tickets.
Its sad so much has held this nation back because it has one of the best geographic location on the planet and should be one of the worlds wealthiest nations if it could get itself together, with all the resources it has. In the future some of the nations that are larger more important aviation nations will loose much of their clout as I believe many middle-east cities (like dubai) will become larger hubs than Ethiopia, and within East Africa other nations will mitigate the Ethiopian monopoly. And Congo will most likely be the continent's central hug as it is at its heart. But South Africa's position will make it a hub for many long distance flights across the globe.
The first mistake was to bail it out,all businesses must grow up and practice self discipline,how was it running so well during Apartheid but it flopped so many times in the ANC government?,just sell it and save the country money and headaches.
I do not know where you get your information from. It seems far too positive for a carrier that has lost billions in tax payer money, and will continue losing billions.
Am not 100% convinced that SAA will join the big league and reflect their previous high status. I worked for a major international airline who handled some operational tasks for SAA at Heathrow. Then SAA where a premier carrier with a very loyal passenger base and excellent crews both flight and ground.. but then after apartheid everything changed, cabin crews where all black and hadn’t the first clue how to look after their passengers and there was a black only hiring policy which together with criminal corruption within the new management structure led to the airlines demise. From flying full B747-400 they ended up flying much smaller aircraft with much less payload onboard. Now some will say this could possibly be a racist slur on the airline it’s not! I witnessed some woeful behaviour with new all black crews ignoring passengers getting onto the aircraft needing help but getting none, to meeting the aircraft and pax thinking I was one of SAA management giving me a very unfavourable list of complaints and these where from pax in all classes who previously where SAA diehard fans many saying they would never fly the airline again.. It was very sad to see such a premier carrier go way down passenger favourite choice but it was of the airline and Gov,s own making, hence why I doubt if the airline can once again be a premier carrier anytime soon
You lie. Apartheid nostslgia hitting you hard. Cabins were not all black, even if that were the case 90% of SA,is black if you haven't noticed. Even Ethiopian Airways crews are black... I've flown to LHR, Zurich, Vienna, Frankfurt on SAA, the crews were always fantastic.
ok yes the BEE and the black hiring policy is an issue, but it has its upsides as well such as reinstating their culture and accepting it, as well as empowering the previously disadvantaged can help economically, however, across south africa, it is only worsening racism, but you've got to realise that south africa is majority non-white, its like expecting an all native american crew for an american airline, its not gonna happen.
If SAA is to make a “ comeback” - whose “cash cow” is SAA this time? Ramapoesa - I would expect! Eskom is dead and buried - let’s create a new cash cow - SAA! Imagine all the loaded pricing of aircraft etc etc - the difference between the actual cost and Ramapoesas “said” cost. Billions of $! How nice at the taxpayers expense. Can’t trust the communist ANC. They are all a horrible bunch of thieves.
Another ANC failure. Watch them fail again even as they will get millions in bail out and aid packages. Their competition in SA received none of these but still survived. This futile saa exercise will fill the pockets and couches of the cadres.
Stop all foreign owned airlines flying locally All foreign airline must choose one airport as the final destination. All connections must be taken by SAA
Back from a bail out and then goes bank rupt again and will need a bail out like this cycle goes on and on the only way Saa will make money and grow I to go public stop the government bailout
Whohoo, big comeback. Let's guess there must be classes divided to blacks and white passengers right? As usual after centuries of oppression. A few names of those who has been murdered in cruel ways or imprissoned? STEVE BIKO, NELSON MANDELA. Was it all fun in Sharpville in 1977. Hope you all have much joy, such a grat respectable history.
ANC did a lot wrong, the economy is worsening every year and people of color aren’t better off economically, only the ANC elite is better off, way better off.
SAA SHOULD restart its Bankok flights and connect South America via Cape Town and Johannesburg to Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta and Manila and Vietnam
as a South African pilot , i really hope SAA comes back bigger and better . would really love to fly the flag
Fly the flag ❤
As a Local gentleman Our only focus now is to register for vote finish voting winner announced " check SAA again" we waiting for the Newly designed Airplanes that can save passengers Life's in any case on the Air , the new planes are cable of dislocating the cabin passenger from the cockpit
Living the pilots to safe land whilst passengers are being Landed by the Passenger cabin with Parachutes 🤝🏾 until then __
@@HeliPilot.co.z😂
@fourgivedyakopu6840 what the hell?
That stupid Zuma and those corrupt Guptas
We are so glad to be back and operating for 2 years already! With the help of the South African government we have begun growing, and plan on reintegrating the Airbus A350 into our fleet. Thank you for doing a video on our incredible aircraft.
This is not the real saa so don’t believe this account
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SAA Is a corrupt joke looking for a place to crash an aircraft killing all passengers. (Already had a few close calls, fly at your own risk)
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This sounds like the type of replies you are forced by the dictators to post... "With the help of the South African government we have begun growing". gees the ANC now have self-praise bots.
If the cadre deployment and corruption don't stop so that competent people can run the airways the SAA will fail again. It's sad but all our SOE's are down the drain because of that
SAA should order the Airbus A330neo-800. Flying longer routes.
These communists will order communist junk aircraft from Russia or China.
But without the silly racoon mask
@@helzer.patrick6279nah it looks better
@@helzer.patrick6279Airbus is always going to put that on there, that’s unavoidable.
They need to get rid of comrades. Replace them with people who know what they are doing in the airline Industry.
Hard to do when every SA company has a political CEO who is in the ANC dictatorship and incompetent.
I would never S A A . Was a great airline that was hijacked by corrupt ANC cadres who still haven’t been charged with corruption. Wouldn’t trust the maintenance on old aeroplanes. I fly Emirates everywhere.
id like to see what u are saying now afrikanner
Corruption and Cadre Deployment were the two pilots that flew SAA into terrain, where it crashed and broke up on balance sheets. The few survivors now are teaching a dodo to fly. When they crashed into financial terrain, they took down others. Imagine that: once the world #1 airline, hijacked by the oligarchy.
Nice video. Small suggestion is to read up on the pronunciation of countries.
Agreed. Namibia, Seychelles..
And he should practice the letter 'A' pronunciation, while he's at it. 😄
As an Aussie since the mid 90s I have flown the Syd to Joburg route maybe 12 times. In the mid 90s Qantas and SAA used to code share and they would always land in Perth. Sometimes when you booked on Qantas the flight would be operated by SAA. I hated SAA flights because as soon as you got out of Australian airspace they would allow people to smoke and as non smokers that was horrible. Always flew SAA domestically in South Africa except on our last trip in 2019 when we had to fly from Durban to Joburg on a budget airline called Mango because due to covid it was the only airline we could get seats on. In 2003/4 I was working in Maputo and I dont think that SAA were code sharing with Qantas anymore as they were not an option. In 2018/19 I was again working in South Africa and Qantas flights from Sydney no longer crossed the continent to Perth they went south over the coast just west of Melbourne before heading way down into the Southern Ocean towards Antartica. They would come back up and cross the coast of South Africa at Richards bay the same as they did when coming across from Perth. I hope that SAA start flying to Australia again as Qantas needs to have some competition on that route airlines can charge you whatever they want when they have the monopoly.
What you don't comment on is the absolute incompetency of their new era management. Gross financial mismanagement and countless government bailouts and bankrupcy.
Oh! NO NO NO, IS it happening already
More ways for the political fat cats to steal more money from us poor taxpayers.
I refuse to fly our national airline.
It is so refreshing to have a video made the way it should be made, unemotionally loaded natation, factual presentation of a topic.
To see SAA flying higher in glory again, one thing must happen. That thing is that, the ANC must Voetsek! and fall very hard NEVER to come back again.
Voetsek and ANC.... A match made in heaven
Well researched and amazing experience you are a professional video analysis.
They just added 1 A330 and 5 A320, so there us still hope.
As well as two 737-800s which they loaning from sun express
I am South African, and I flew with SAA recently. Never again. Crew is typically morose and unhelpful at best to rude. I had very high hopes for the “new” SAA. Turns out it was a false hope.
I flew to São Paulo on SAA 3 days ago. The cabin crew and flight crew were of different races (there were white faces in the mix - white pilot). Don’t be fooled by stupid narratives about how South Africa works.
It's called Affirmative action... Until BEE and affirmative action are stopped then we'll always have bad service
My loveliest flights ever were on two of the vaka's of Air New Zealand. The staff were homely and hospitable in a most special way. One Maori (not mowry, Ma-ori) hostess exclaimed "oh, you're visiting the Rock!!" She beamed and smothered me with a hug, exclaiming 'Kia Orana, ka kite e kia manuia'
@@jumpinjackflash7140Not in this racist regime......this is what equality for all meant in the 1970s when all cried Free Mandela. Now it's free wifi (the poor thing!) and sugar free, though you don't get any 😂
@@TheNizzah1please farm the facts, or do you live under a rock? My white skin and a dangling groin prohibited me from even applying for a formal job for the last three decades, read the labour laws!!! Opinion is cranial flatulence.
Whag happened to.South African Airways?? JACOB ZUMA, DUDU MYENI AND YAKHE KWINANA...
Black governance happened with the according plunder.
It started with Coleman Andrews and just went downhill from there. My wife worked for SAA for 42 years before she was summarily dumped in 2020 so she has seen it all.
@@leonnefourie1857 its not abt race its about incompetent people in high positions
I don't believe SAA will ever return to its former glory of the 70s/80s/90s. Very sad. Pathetic, actually. A great airline taken down by corruption and mismanagement. 😢. We cross fingers.
Apartheid nostalgia I see. Watch and learn...
SAA was great in the early 2000s and the 90s under the new government, stop acting foolish
@@EbagamAfricait’s not apartheid nostalgia, it’s reality, if the people continue to vote for parties that are corrupt and incompetent, SAA will never become as successful as it was
80s… the darkest period of SAA history. Remember the 1985 accident? Lost recordings, tampered manifests. Nah, it’s much better today.
@@benhandelsman7360 That's the thing though, the party in charge shouldn't be affecting an airline to this extent. Cadre deployment isn't the norm but here we are. Hopefully this detrimental policy ends soon under any party so these Government companies can truly thrive better than they ever did in the post-Apartheid expansion (a lot of them had this post-Apartheid boom including Eskom but that was probably because they had to triple production so by most metrics including crime, the first post-Apartheid years were the best)
But you're right, don't let the ruling party feel comfortable to win the next election so that they have the need to show progress like anti-corruption to not be ousted from power.
Thanks for this video but im a bit troubled by the pronunciations of the countries. Like Namibia you said "Nambia" its pronounced as "Na-mi-biya" and "Seychelles" is "Sea-shells" or "Say-shells" depends on which region you come from
Let the market naturally decide 👍🏻
I, as a South African living in S.A. was always happy to fly S.A.
And then disappointed when flights were suspended. A nervous flyer, I experienced only excellent service. Would be happy to see them back in service.
I think you a bit behind on the fleet, but nice video
I dream of the day when SAA will have a fleet comprising the following aircraft: A350-1000, A350-900, A330-900, A320-200NEO, and A319-100NEO.
A319 would be obsolete. A220 took over that sector.
Yeah but the A220 sounds like a farting aircraft@@EbagamAfrica
A320 neo have engin problems .... It's on RUclips ....
Dream on
Maybe even a cheeky airbus a380👀
SAA will fail again if the ANC government has any involvement in the airline. It has to become completely private.
SA’s economy is too weak to sustain South African Airways. Who are the shareholders? There is a culture of corruption and nepotism and over staffed, badly managed business Co Gov owned and Private, in South Africa. No reason not to fail again. Hopefully sooner this time.
And overpaid, ever-demanding staff. Not sustainable.
Lies
SAA used to be so good, I really hope it turns around. Their service always had the African vibe which was special and like no other.
As A south African, I am hopefull for SAA/SAL 's future - as lonf as goevernment and thier cronies stay out of it SAA must be fully privatised
lets hope SAA can get to where it should be, back at the top, for this we need professional, highly skilled staff, not based on race but on competence, and as it shows it can be run properly, further investment will come.
100%🙏
There flies our tax money!😢
Basic ingredients needed are - well maintained aircraft , competent and experienced pilots , professional crew , tight control on staff bloat , no unions , alignment of purpose , tight financial controls , privately owned . In my view they have a score of 0 out of 8 .
I hope they will improve this time.
Is the good news ❤❤❤
7:15 Don't know how safe their aircrafts are though...
why did he pronounce Seychelles that way? 😭
boy, we were so proud of our fleet way back. Maybe we should rename it Voetsak Airlines to clear the rubble out
Iff you're not a private airline then rather not think of flying ever again
Cyril has now sold it to his friends that corrupt clown
Trust me
Judging by the history of presidents after 2000
Ramaphosa was actually better compared to previous candidates and he did more for the country than any other president
After all he inherited the country in a dire state, it was yet to fail
Ramaphosa just delayed it
@@Reamonareng12 Correct he delayed a failed state. Did nothing to turn it around. Rather helped himself to the riches.
I remember my first flight as a teenager on the tin mouse was the best day of my life and my first whiff of avgas the best fragrance that my nose ever smelt,I hope to see the flag across the sky soon.
Here in 2025 when we have 2 a340s, 4 a330s, 2 coming for fly Nas soon, 737s leased, a320s
I hope they resume flights to Australia 🇦🇺 🙏
They are planning to.
Why?
@jacquesleroux5069 So there will be more competition. Currently only Qantas has direct flights to Australia and they are milking the route with sky- high fares. SAA used to fly directly to Perth from Johannesburg. Hopefully they will return soon. The demand is certainly there.
@@jacquesleroux5069 why not? it is a major market opportunity to make more money if they're able to charge lower rates with decent quality flights. Even if it's just something for Summer.
they are currently flying directly to Perth from Johannesburg with the A330-300. They just re-introduced the route within this past month and i think it’s daily.
No the reason is because there are too much corruption in RSA
Bro really said "Sued Afrikaans legduinsjjt"
I recall SAA once had 28 B747's in their fleet.
How much is it going to cost us this time , another few billion rand for loss of income. Sad to see a airline being stolen bankrupt.
What are they doing with the good pilots and the maintenance crews they closed down , all things need maintenance and a plane much more than normal maintenance so not sure I'll fly with SAA
As long as their is a ANC and EFF in charge here in South Africa,we are doomed.
I miss them, am hoping they come back better than before 😊😊
I hope it continues, no corruption please!!
fixing bids, offers, bid-offer spreads, spot exchange rates, and the exchange rate at the FIX. Standard Chartered is one of 28 banks prosecuted by the Commission for manipulating the USD/ZAR currency pair.
There is a lot of negativity surrounding this airline. They’ve had a lot of problems, and that reputation has been hard to get rid of. Ask a South African about which airline to choose domestically, and the odds of them recommending SAA is slim to none. Regionally you don’t have much choice, and long haul they don’t really operate.
However, having flown on SAA several times in the last year, I honestly can’t find much to complain about. In-flight entertainment is lacking on most flights, but that’s not a big deal for me. WiFi would be nice.
Service is excellent - from the ticket counter through to the flight attendants. Everyone is extremely friendly and welcoming.
It seems they are living up to their slogan - “those who know fly SAA”… I wonder how many of the people speaking so strongly against SAA have actually been on an SAA flight recently.
I have traveled SAA! And I cannot disagree with you more. The flight attendants were rude, to morose at best. The aircraft are old and dated. Service sucks, and I will not even touch the inflight food. I have had much better experiences with almost every single regional operator than I have had with SAA. On one flight, the stewardess banged her trolley into my knee so hard, that I was still limping days later. I asked her what she was doing, and I got cursed at. If that is what you consider good, then I don’t want to know what you consider bad. 6 flights out of six were terrible. Thank god I managed to persuade my company to abandon SAA.
@@phelansa23 I wonder… perhaps it’s the routes. I’ve flown SAA 6 times also - CPT-JNB and back. Guess that’s a pretty major route for them and they’d probably staff it with their best. Got super friendly treatment all the way, got let into a lounge I didn’t qualify for and got an upgrade on one of the legs.
I fly around 50 times a year on average, so I’ve seen good and bad. SAA trumps Turkish imo simply because Turkish ground staff is incompetent and the airline can never be on time - cabin crew is great though. Flydubai is always late also, and charges for food on budget fares in economy. Qatar and Emirates are the best I’ve seen, and Singapore is a worthy mention. American is rubbish (flew first class with them). BA is a mixed bag but Heathrow is enough to put you off. Air Serbia cancels for no reason at the last moment and their customer service is non-existent. Copa and Avianca are okay and beat any US airline. Airlink crew seems to have no idea how to clean a plane, and FlySafair charges for food which is pretty lame even if you pay.
As far as aircraft go, the age doesn’t really bother me as long as they’re well maintained. Guess that comes from my history with BA and their dinosaurs. I’ll admit that I’ve never been a fan of the new 737 ranges though.
But I’m sure you’re telling the truth. I’m just curious how our experiences are so different.
@@lionelpinkhard I fly mainly to the neighbouring countries. Not internal flights. Lusaka, Nairobi, Blantyre, Windhoek, Lilongwe…..
I found with Turkish airways, it is better to wake up AFTER the Stewardesses have had a chance to shave….. 😈
@@phelansa23 Guess they’re neglecting the African nations outside SA. Sad. I don’t usually have a need to fly between 2 African nations, so my international experience in Africa is mostly limited to Emirates.
I’m okay with Turkish in the air, but their frequent late departures and ground staff who don’t seem to care annoy me. I got delayed 3 hours on a 50 min flight out of Istanbul for which I paid $2k because that was the only option. They claimed something with some passengers seats not being allocated correctly. I also really detest their policy of having complimentary upgrades board before full price business class tickets.
“Air seychellies” 😭😭
😂😂moerskont!
0:38 Oh, wow, imagine!
However, disappointed if controlled by politicians where focus is taken from reliable and good service.
Lol how long will it be before they ask for a bail out !
Making every South Africans poorer
Wishful Thinking. No way SAA will suceed again without tax payers contributions,
Glad they are back
I WOULDNT FLY WITH THAT AIRLINE IF THEY PAID ME 😮
"Used to be" are the key words. Will never happen with the anc in charge. No capability, no capacity, no knowledge how to run anything!
Most of these aircraft are wet leased. Even more. A recent damp lease was announced for the busy seasonal period between Turkish and Lufthansa.
1:10 How 'bout that!?
Its sad so much has held this nation back because it has one of the best geographic location on the planet and should be one of the worlds wealthiest nations if it could get itself together, with all the resources it has. In the future some of the nations that are larger more important aviation nations will loose much of their clout as I believe many middle-east cities (like dubai) will become larger hubs than Ethiopia, and within East Africa other nations will mitigate the Ethiopian monopoly. And Congo will most likely be the continent's central hug as it is at its heart. But South Africa's position will make it a hub for many long distance flights across the globe.
The first mistake was to bail it out,all businesses must grow up and practice self discipline,how was it running so well during Apartheid but it flopped so many times in the ANC government?,just sell it and save the country money and headaches.
South African I'm very happy to see saa return
Why am I seeing an A350 in an SAA livery?? Did we buy ?
We had 4 of them
and the last one nearly crashed in the covid nightmate
@@Reamonareng12 leased?
leased from Air Mauritius before business rescue.
@@andz5909 oh ok. When I look at National carriers and their fleets, I m so envious. Phela we have nothing
I do not know where you get your information from. It seems far too positive for a carrier that has lost billions in tax payer money, and will continue losing billions.
Am not 100% convinced that SAA will join the big league and reflect their previous high status.
I worked for a major international airline who handled some operational tasks for SAA at Heathrow. Then SAA where a premier carrier with a very loyal passenger base and excellent crews both flight and ground.. but then after apartheid everything changed, cabin crews where all black and hadn’t the first clue how to look after their passengers and there was a black only hiring policy which together with criminal corruption within the new management structure led to the airlines demise. From flying full B747-400 they ended up flying much smaller aircraft with much less payload onboard. Now some will say this could possibly be a racist slur on the airline it’s not! I witnessed some woeful behaviour with new all black crews ignoring passengers getting onto the aircraft needing help but getting none, to meeting the aircraft and pax thinking I was one of SAA management giving me a very unfavourable list of complaints and these where from pax in all classes who previously where SAA diehard fans many saying they would never fly the airline again.. It was very sad to see such a premier carrier go way down passenger favourite choice but it was of the airline and Gov,s own making, hence why I doubt if the airline can once again be a premier carrier anytime soon
You lie. Apartheid nostslgia hitting you hard.
Cabins were not all black, even if that were the case 90% of SA,is black if you haven't noticed. Even Ethiopian Airways crews are black... I've flown to LHR, Zurich, Vienna, Frankfurt on SAA, the crews were always fantastic.
ok yes the BEE and the black hiring policy is an issue, but it has its upsides as well such as reinstating their culture and accepting it, as well as empowering the previously disadvantaged can help economically, however, across south africa, it is only worsening racism, but you've got to realise that south africa is majority non-white, its like expecting an all native american crew for an american airline, its not gonna happen.
Not under ANC rule....
@@danielbredenkamp3957 Yeah, lets get the nats back to cater for 100% of the people, not 5%...
Let’s see another taxpayer bailout at the end of the next financial year ………wanna bet ?
Yep I would bet
I know it will rise up again
SAA will rise
Absolute nonsense. It is wishful thinking. South Africans are boycotting this airline due to the involvement of the unpopular ANC.
If SAA is to make a “ comeback” - whose “cash cow” is SAA this time? Ramapoesa - I would expect! Eskom is dead and buried - let’s create a new cash cow - SAA! Imagine all the loaded pricing of aircraft etc etc - the difference between the actual cost and Ramapoesas “said” cost. Billions of $! How nice at the taxpayers expense. Can’t trust the communist ANC. They are all a horrible bunch of thieves.
Who is going to maintain these aircraft’s? Cubans? Russians?
Just hope they will not waste our Tax money and rather be a private company
ok so now what is "saaouth ayyyfryycan ayrways" and "seychellies"
South African Airways Can return Flights ✈️ to Singapore ✈️ 🛳 🇸🇬 again from Capital Johannesburg and Cape Town.
What happened to SAA, the ANC. End of.
How long until the South African tax payer is ask to rescue this sad , politicised lot. Never again !
Another ANC failure. Watch them fail again even as they will get millions in bail out and aid packages. Their competition in SA received none of these but still survived.
This futile saa exercise will fill the pockets and couches of the cadres.
Stop all foreign owned airlines flying locally
All foreign airline must choose one airport as the final destination. All connections must be taken by SAA
Seychelles is pronounced - Say-shells not Se-shellys, nice video otherwise.
The Y is actually silent and is pronounced sea shells however in English we include the y .
He also got Namibia wrong too. And Egyptair. It might have been a computer generated voice.
Say-shells is also wrong. It's Sea-Shells the correct pronunciation.
So the government sold out 😭
Corruption happened
They sold 51% of SAA
Say shell lees? Say Shells.
We hope there won't be another pandemic otherwise all the recovery will be lost and back to ground zero
If you chose economy they will be a Tv
Don't hold your breath
Back from a bail out and then goes bank rupt again and will need a bail out like this cycle goes on and on the only way Saa will make money and grow I to go public stop the government bailout
Not going to happen……why…….
Aircraft is the singular AND plural form. There is no such word as AircraftS.
naaymabeeaa its namibia
Kenya ?
ken ya nuts fit in this mouth?
they are already a top 3 airline in Africa what is this guy talking about?😂
Are you nuts?
@@leonnefourie1857 are you nuts? go look it up
Huh? Maybe 20th at best
@@marktrollope3094 as i said to the previous guy go look it up,just because you want something to be true doesn't mean it is
Corruption and bad service since 1995....
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who is paying for this kak now?🤣🤣🤣🤣
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That's nice with Tax payer money ...
ANOTHER BALOON !!!
Keep on dreaming
Whohoo, big comeback. Let's guess there must be classes divided to blacks and white passengers right? As usual after centuries of oppression. A few names of those who has been murdered in cruel ways or imprissoned? STEVE BIKO, NELSON MANDELA. Was it all fun in Sharpville in 1977. Hope you all have much joy, such a grat respectable history.
ANC did a lot wrong, the economy is worsening every year and people of color aren’t better off economically, only the ANC elite is better off, way better off.
yes,grat
Oh please
SAA SHOULD restart its Bankok flights and connect South America via Cape Town and Johannesburg to Bangkok and Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta and Manila and Vietnam
Everything the blacks touched in South Africa, ... turned to crap. Fact. The country should NEVER got rid of the BRITISH APARTHEID RULE .... Point.