When Brand New Parts Fail - 1968 Dodge Coronet Transmission Explosion Diagnosis (And Removal Guide)

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • In this video: How to remove a 904 or 727 Torqueflite transmission in your classic Mopar, and torque converter failure diagnosis.
    In the second episode of my series on Mark's 1968 Dodge Coronet 500, I remove the brand new 727 Torqueflite automatic transmission to attempt to determine the source of last week's unscheduled fluid evacuation. And I'll tell you right now... It's not what I was expecting to find.
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  • @rennkafer13
    @rennkafer13 3 месяца назад +22

    "Don't.............. This"... words to live by, Jamie. 😅

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +5

      I’m proud of that one. Haha.

    • @rennkafer13
      @rennkafer13 3 месяца назад +3

      @@DeadDodgeGarage it was a particularly good ending.

  • @minnesotatomcat
    @minnesotatomcat 3 месяца назад +8

    Those edelbrock carbs are great, very tunable. I had one in my 360 power wagon, tuned it once and never had a problem again.

  • @martind701
    @martind701 3 месяца назад +6

    The heck with the negative and haters Jamie. I value all of what you bring in increasing knowledge of our beloved Mopars.

  • @007fredh
    @007fredh 3 месяца назад +11

    Wow, a bad torque converter. That is really strange. Looking forward to the next video.

  • @FunctionalHistories
    @FunctionalHistories 3 месяца назад +8

    Still watching but I wanted to say it before I forgot... I have learned SO much from you. As a 'not-real-car-guy', I have to tell you that you may have missed your calling...TEACHING. Thanks, brother! -Vic

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +3

      Hey, what am I doing here now? Haha. Funny story, when I closed my shop, I had a choice - go to Rocket, or apply for the high school auto tech instructor position. I made my choice, and I have no regrets.

  • @darrylskerman6808
    @darrylskerman6808 3 месяца назад +3

    This one is not your fault, Jamie. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

  • @butcher390
    @butcher390 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm having chest pains of empathy & sympathy , too your mechanical plight , Jamie 🔧⚙
    ( good Christ )
    Trust me , you're not alone .
    Weve been noticing ,
    garbage 🗑 quality too
    I'm absolutely incredulous at the
    " erroneous quality " of the components in the pipe line
    Great diagnostic skills 🙏

  • @musclecarmitch908
    @musclecarmitch908 3 месяца назад +5

    I sure wasn't expecting that! What a freak leak! 👍

    • @0004612
      @0004612 3 месяца назад +2

      You’re a poet and didn’t know it.

  • @mypronouniswtf5559
    @mypronouniswtf5559 3 месяца назад +5

    Yes, the new part fail is frustrating especially when you work on a long weekend or at night when the auto parts store is closed!!! In my youth I will tell you, I may have said multiple choice words,today in my early 50's nothing changed...Except my vocabulary is much better or betterer (see what I mean)..
    Actually,I think It's worse these days as parts seem to fail more often,and critical parts fail more often today back then it was more of the auto parts store giving the wrong part,and I never checked it properly(my fault)..Today parts actually fail more often and I just learned to deal with it..I am very calm now.I mean in my matured age I better calm down or have a coronary so no choice in the matter.
    As for that Coronet,it seems like a pretty decent car like you said basically some off choices..For myself I don't like high impact colors on model years it didn't come on,that's just me.I don't want to knock the car and I am not! I would gladly take it off the owners hands! Coronet owner, I will be down in 2 and a half hours to get it,okay? A 1968 Big Block B body,who wouldn't like it no matter the color!
    If anyone reads this? I don't care but I needed to blab,wife thinks I am actually doing work lol..

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Oh I totally agree on high impact colors. Haha… Mark might have some problems with that.

  • @jethro1260
    @jethro1260 3 месяца назад +2

    Absolutely Agree with Jamie about the converter, it's defective and it was just a matter of time before it happened, and if you think about it the good news is that it leaked when it did, could not of been in a more perfect spot to get it fixed...because it was going to go sooner than later...

    • @Coronetguy
      @Coronetguy 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, I was thankful actually! Not sure Jamie was thou!😂

  • @britjohnson1990
    @britjohnson1990 2 месяца назад

    I’m commenting before watching. I put a 383 in my dart, my brother, and I and rebuilt a 727 and used the wrong torque converter (if I recall it was a 1966 transmission with a 67 torque converter or something) and it immediately stripped out my seal. And dumped transmission fluid all over the driveway just like that. That is why only 833s are allowed now. My brother got very tired of sleeping with transmission fluid and kitty litter in his hair.😀

  • @bradsrestorations1085
    @bradsrestorations1085 3 месяца назад +1

    Jamie, I'm glad the fix was easier than it could have been. I figured that this was going to be a bushing and seal replacement video. Less work for you is a win!

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      Me too... I couldn't agree more! Haha.

  • @contexxt
    @contexxt 3 месяца назад +1

    I put a 340 in in an 80 Cordoba. was a 318 car so easy swap. 8 and 3/4 out of a diplomat taxicab (323 sure grip). Another easy swap.
    4 x 904 and 1 x 727. I can swap a rear wheel drive mopar trans in about an hour and a half.
    Finally won the battle with a built 727 with reverse manual valve body.
    I really miss that car.

  • @jeffreymiers8793
    @jeffreymiers8793 3 месяца назад +1

    Everything old is new again at some point I guess...the black trim thing was popular in the 80's for awhile if I remember correctly. Im no purist on anything; I think the car looks cool. Another good video!

  • @1974Elan
    @1974Elan 3 месяца назад +7

    I really like this car it looks really cool I'm a fan of the black trim, I get a kick out of people thinking just because a bolt is loose or a connection is wrong the tech was an idiot. I have yet to do a major mechanical change like an engine or transmission swap an not had gremlins. There is always a loose connection a leak or just something that was missed usually it takes a week of daily driving a new build to find all the issues and sort the vehicle out where I'm confident the wife can take it without worries. But hey maybe its me I'm not perfect and I'm not a technician either I'm just a guy who grew up in the garage with his Dad working on cars. Pretty sure whoever put that trans in had no idea the torque converter had a defect in it.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      No, they had absolutely no way of knowing. You can’t see it! And I couldn’t agree more. I have done so, so many jobs like this - and I have absolutely left some bolts and things loose along the way. I try to think through every single thing, but it’s not easy. There is a big difference between a small, excusable oversight and terrible workmanship. I’m not seeing the latter here.

    • @mr.b2107
      @mr.b2107 3 месяца назад

      A fan of black trim?? Well maybe on a worthless modern and late model car.
      But anyone who would take a old Mopar and its good stainless trim apart then sand and prep to paint, has not only ruined the parts but screwed up a old Mopar. That's like a major deduction in value. Many true Mopar buyers would say, I'll pass when it comes to buying the car.
      Now if the previous owner used a vinyl black decal material to cover all the trim, well that's different. Not as bad, except it still doesn't look right nor does it look better. It would be a waste of time.

    • @1974Elan
      @1974Elan 3 месяца назад

      apparantly the current owner and myself do not agree sometimes its cool to do something different from everyone else @@mr.b2107

  • @greggsvintageworkshop8974
    @greggsvintageworkshop8974 3 месяца назад

    What a beautiful car! I love the black vinyl top with the black trim and tinted glass. The lime green color really pops against that. I realize that purist's hate changes, but the way I see it, another piece of history is back on the road and is beautiful. Plus, whoever the owner is, it is his car and can do exactly what he wants to with it.

  • @chiefexecutive
    @chiefexecutive 3 месяца назад

    Just so you should know you guys are the only ones I found with the correct drain plug for my 68 sport satellite, so I ordered one ! Thanks !

  • @normangiven6436
    @normangiven6436 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice car, the trim looks good with that shade of green.

  • @markcollins457
    @markcollins457 3 месяца назад

    Don't........this is an appropriate way to end this video. Bigger strongest bettererer just creates a weak spot somewhere else if it's not a drag car you don't need it. I have worked on some heavy machinery and when some components are over built the can ultimately harm the rest of the total package.
    Good find😊

  • @PaulSteinberg-il4tw
    @PaulSteinberg-il4tw 3 месяца назад

    Always good to view and learn from one of your videos Jamie. Thanks.

  • @user-hi2ev7ug4l
    @user-hi2ev7ug4l 3 месяца назад

    We're all here to learn and be entertained.....good content and thanks....can't wait for more.

  • @OlderNotNecesarilyWiser
    @OlderNotNecesarilyWiser 3 месяца назад

    Got to say you brought back the memory of changing an automatic transmission on a plymouth station wagon in a 3/4 car garage during the winter, tranny on my chest trying to move it into position. Damn cold and cramped. Wasn't real sure what I was doing, took forever, but it worked, I thawed out about a week later, still hate lying on my back on concrete. You sure made it sound a lot easier then it was! Looking forward to the third video being a charm with this one. Beautiful car, great video.!

  • @Mike-Olds-1
    @Mike-Olds-1 3 месяца назад +3

    I think I like my 4 speeds even more now 👍

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +3

      Bingo! The ol torque converter delete!

    • @brianandglendaharkin9457
      @brianandglendaharkin9457 3 месяца назад

      Until your rear main seal starts to leak and but oil all over you clutch plate then it’s came over . 😫.

  • @idaholineman5788
    @idaholineman5788 3 месяца назад

    Wow such a strange part failure..great detective work!

  • @CarTech1976
    @CarTech1976 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video, great diagnosis and great content. Keep it up brother!

  • @altpraize6708
    @altpraize6708 3 месяца назад +3

    I love the color combo

  • @p-m2127
    @p-m2127 3 месяца назад

    Well done Jaimie !

  • @brandonjohnston7746
    @brandonjohnston7746 3 месяца назад

    One of my new favorite channels, I can't believe youspoob never pushed your channel till recently, at least not for me, I subbed a couple weeks ago, I'm going back in the archive lol

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      The algorithm works in mysterious ways... welcome aboard, and thanks!

  • @richjordan9375
    @richjordan9375 3 месяца назад

    Happiness that you found the leak! Happiness that you and your customer have carburetor choices other than Holley.
    I recall with chagrin that in the 80s I was considering doing the European flat black thing on all of the Challenger’s trim. Then in the 90s, I was thinking about black chrome for all the trim. I have returned to my senses and will stick with chrome and stainless.

  • @RichardsResto
    @RichardsResto 3 месяца назад

    Thanks alot for this video man! I am banking on this being the same issue.
    Had a 727, went on a roadtrip, was gushing just as bad as yours. Got a rebuilt tranny, put it in, didnt swap converters. Drove it for an afternoon, gave out again after an afternoon of spirited driving. Fairly abrupt.
    So im hoping it is this, and not a series of unfortunate events resulting in two broken transmissions. Since parts an labor are double the cost here in the netherlands....

  • @Cstoreri
    @Cstoreri 3 месяца назад +2

    Thx Jamie!

  • @randylear8264
    @randylear8264 3 месяца назад

    Jamie my 70 Challenger VP clone did the same thing. I tightened the trans tube to the block. Must have broke the O ring seal. I replaced the O ring and problem solved. Well as far as the trans leak😂. Thanks for letting me know “ we are not alone”!

  • @lunawerding
    @lunawerding 3 месяца назад +4

    better break it now in the garage than on the highway with a hot exhaust for the fluid to catch on fire

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Exactly! We’re definitely glad for that.

  • @Mclovingarage
    @Mclovingarage 3 месяца назад +4

    I wonder if the transmission bolts being loose and the couple missing was causing it to pull away from the engine a little bit and stressed that weld? Then when the starter kicked back it finished it off? Just a wild freaking guess...

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +3

      I had the same thought. I will say, the one that was closest to the starter was tight. But the two closest to it were the ones missing. The other two 3/8” bolts weren’t so tight… the impact never slowed down pulling them out.

  • @mikedaugharty5544
    @mikedaugharty5544 3 месяца назад

    Yeah you nailed the diagnostics right on the head that thing was not welded together right and it happens what why does it have to happen to you I feel so sorry for you but I've been in places like that myself it sucks and you just gotta suck it up and thank God that you don't have it everyday my experience was it used to be like it went in weeks a week at a time you had nothing but trouble but that wasn't too often but it did happen such is life what's your reminds me I will be going through the same problem as you went through only mine is A4 speed putting the car to bed i was putting the car to bed i was running the starter relay with a screwdriver rock back against the starter as i was hitting the starter relay taking out the starter drive bendix so why will be going through the same problem you went through this spring got the same thing headers oil pan and H pipe

  • @redwhiteandblue7290
    @redwhiteandblue7290 3 месяца назад

    Green paint = 🤢🤮
    Blacked out trim = 🤢🤮🤮
    Holley carbs = 🤢🤢🤮🤮
    This channel = 🤘🤘🤘

  • @marcbrown6391
    @marcbrown6391 3 месяца назад

    I like the green on it. I prefer the chrome trim, but the black looks good too. I’d love to own it.

  • @moparfan4388
    @moparfan4388 3 месяца назад

    Just wanted to elaborate on my method of cleaning up fluid spills. I have a dust pan that I made out of sheet metal. If you have fabrication and layout skills along with a way to bend sheet metal a simple dust pan shape is pretty easy to form up . I also bent over a 1/2 inch flange around the top edge so it isn't a razor blade at the top. Mine is 8 inches wide and 1 1/2 inch tall at the back tapering down to 1/2 an inch at the front. I like it because the pan itself is totally flat. Of course you could buy a metal dust pan but I used to work in sheet metal shop. A 4 or 6 inch drywall knife works great as wall to push the fluid toward the pan. Harbor Freight has those at about 1/2 the price of everyone else. Just hold the dust pan at the edge of the puddle, hold the drywall knife/scraper pretty vertical and scape along the concrete towards the pan opening and send the tidal wave of fluid into the pan, dump and repeat. That mess will go away with a lot less hassle than rags and kitty litter alone and a lot less waste of cleanup material . Finish up with rags and kitty litter and quite a bit less anxiety. I also like to pulverize some of my kitty litter into almost a dust with a metal hammer / short handle sledge and keep a small separate container of that for special quick absorbing emergencies. One last thing about this method, it works just as well on other materials ( ie. already wet kitty litter , saw dust even metal filings ) because there are no bristles for material to get caught up in. Hope this was helpful and a time saver for everyone that gives it a try, of course you will have to still have to finish up with something with bristles. Good luck Jamie and keep them coming. OK one last thing, a safety thing about our old classics. Seat belts alone won't do it. You need a shoulder harness. Watch the YOU Tube video of the 1200 HP Mercury crashing. Yeah and they even had warning time!!

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Brilliant! I’m going to pin this for future reference. And - if anyone thinks they’re getting out of a real wreck in one of these classics unscathed, oh boy, they’ve got another thing coming. There is a reason locking shoulder belts have been mandated for fifty years. But that addition by itself doesn’t solve the lack of crumple zones, or air bags, or… like everything else about these classic designs. Driver beware, they are rolling death traps.

    • @moparfan4388
      @moparfan4388 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarageI totally get that classics were built before modern safety standards and will never meet the level of safety that we now have. I am only wanting as many people as possible to see that video just to get an idea of how much force there is to a mid speed accident. That being said my word of advise is that if you have a car equipped with shoulder harnesses wear them if at all possible. Anyone that doesn't have them, I saw a neat trick at a car show where a guy with a convertible installed a piece of chain to the rear seat belt anchor and attached a section of seatbelt to it so he could click it into a receiver at the front seat for a makeshift shoulder harness. He would disconnect and hide his what I consider, ingenious idea, under the back seat until he was ready to hit the road again. Just an idea to consider for anyone out there who wants shoulder harnesses but thought it is too complicated to do. I personally feel safer just with the addition of a shoulder harness even in a classic.

  • @488ci
    @488ci 3 месяца назад

    One thing that I learned from watching TV is that using a big glass Jar with a lid you can suck out the transmission fluid with a shop vac into the jar saving the transmission fluid to be used again if its not burnt or rotten because I use ATF 4 and that stuff is expensive. Plus it doesn't make a big mess on the floor and I also use a kids swimming pool and that keeps things cleaner and I just use the shop vac to suck up the oil out of the pool. Don't use your good shop vac get one that's going to be used for oil and slop. That's my 2 cents for the day.

  • @kellismith4329
    @kellismith4329 3 месяца назад

    Oh damn, I had the same issues with my 1970 Dart Swinger, it was such a cool car with the 340 but the auto trans had numerous issues just like this one was always leaking for one reason or another - it is where I learned to hate automatics
    I find that TSP does a pretty good job cleaning up oil spills

  • @bigwrenchtech
    @bigwrenchtech 3 месяца назад +1

    I was a diehard Holley guy for a long time, until I messed with my first Edelbrock. I will never, and I mean never go back to Halley. You never know until you step outside your comfort zone.

  • @jamesblair9614
    @jamesblair9614 3 месяца назад

    I stand in awe of anyone who can rattle off all the bolt sizes, and I assume appropriate wrench and socket sizes. I’ve been doing this for longer than most of you have been alive, and it’s always a guess, and invariably wrong. Every job I do likely takes 50% longer, because of all the trips back to the tool box to get a one size smaller or bigger tool. If I haven’t picked up the skill by now, it’s hopeless. Actually, a tools needed list pre-done would be a great help for me or anyone else with this affliction.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      It helps that I have done exactly that job many, many times. There are a lot of things in life I can’t remember, but I made up my mind a long time ago to be the best I could when it comes to knowing what holds these cars together. Wire colors, bolt sizes and locations.

  • @pcbullets8726
    @pcbullets8726 3 месяца назад

    That is pretty wild. You don't see that happen every day. Crazy! On another note, I do like the blacked out trim. Works well with the color of this ride, even if it's not factory correct.

    • @clembob8004
      @clembob8004 3 месяца назад

      I agree, it's tastefully done in my opinion. The lime green with the black roof and trim, and the black wheels with the small hubcaps looks pretty good.

  • @michaeladamo1188
    @michaeladamo1188 3 месяца назад

    It’s a pretty cool car! But I’m with you high in-pack colors are awesome but on 70s and up!

  • @johnkendrick7304
    @johnkendrick7304 3 месяца назад

    That car has nothing in common with the maple motors car. And it looks very well put together as far as I can see what do I know I've only been in the car business for 40 years

  • @tint661
    @tint661 3 месяца назад

    Glad you found leak and can move on. I like Edelbrock carburetors. When the kick down is adjusted correctly they work perfectly. I also like the electric chokes on them. People spend some big bucks on stuff for their cars but then bolt on a POS bolt on battery clamp, instead of buying a $15 to $20 new cable. Those bolt on clamps become problems when you are least expecting a problem.

  • @mikekutzner7416
    @mikekutzner7416 3 месяца назад

    I had a rear diff housing all the welded on brackets for the 4 link springs ect . The welds every thing was just tack on i told him it was going to fail but he had to run it for the class he was running in. He really wanted to start the season and end the season with all the points he could get . It was a very well known manufacturer of rear diffs and housings his rear diff turned in to a center diff on the first attempted pass.

  • @OldsmobileSBRocket
    @OldsmobileSBRocket 3 месяца назад

    I'm glad you have luck with the Edelbrock carb. Every poor running Olds usually started with an Edelbrock. I remember swapping the torque converter seal and pump seal on a 904. It must have had a hairline crack, still leaked like mad.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Oh yeah, the Edelbrock is great - it’s so stupidly easy to tune.

  • @davidraezer5937
    @davidraezer5937 Месяц назад

    I’m learning that with any classic car you can throw out any labor time guide because there are so many variables it’s impossible with junk quality parts. Now that is becoming a real issue with newer junk as well.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  Месяц назад +1

      Oh I know it. And obviously I have seen a good few messed up new parts, as seen here. But even without that, it seems like every time I dig into a classic like this, I always find more than I expected.

  • @glennyaromy6747
    @glennyaromy6747 3 месяца назад

    Very impressed that did all of this on the ground! I'm sure it sucked.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      It did, but I’m a veteran of suck so really it’s my comfort zone.

    • @glennyaromy6747
      @glennyaromy6747 3 месяца назад

      I can relate! lol @@DeadDodgeGarage

  • @friguy4444
    @friguy4444 3 месяца назад

    Jamie if the whole world only saw things through the lens of Mopar reality then it would be a GREAT PLACE TO LIVE. At least if you're any example of what that looks like LOL. Rock on Duck Dodgers!

  • @MattsRageFitGarage
    @MattsRageFitGarage 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow never would have guessed that the converter failed. I guess it's better than it being the transmission itself though.

  • @scottsmith1897
    @scottsmith1897 3 месяца назад

    Get a holley........ Noooooo........ 🤣 agree on that one. And as far as the Uncle Tony car it didn't have a vinyl top on it. And as far as the blacked out trim I kind of like it.
    Keep the great videos coming and try not to hit yourself in the face with any wrenches.......... 😛

  • @davewoodmancy5124
    @davewoodmancy5124 3 месяца назад

    Many moons ago I have bought a 68 Dodge 500 add a winter beater car bucket seats floor shift everything and I sold it for just a couple hundred dollars in the spring I wish I had it back

  • @johnmullins2798
    @johnmullins2798 3 месяца назад

    Doubt it's your fault. The only resistance on the converter hub would be the pump gears and input shaft of the trans which are easily spun by hand, doubt it's enough to break a weld. I'd say just a weld burnt to the inside of the converter. Had that weld stopped on top you may had never never seen such a flood. Enjoyed the video!

  • @cumminski
    @cumminski 3 месяца назад

    This thing happened cause the converter was made on earth. Original 727 converters just came from outer space and they handled gazillion miles before they came to earth with no leaks. TF999 lockup converters have a tendency to crack, but they are allso made on earth. The older A466 cast iron trans has the dipstick tube bolted to the oil pan. That means that you drain the oil laughing. Well that is the only time you laugh uninstalling the cast iron chunk from the car. Tho the converter in those A466 es is bolted directly to the cranc, so the bellhousing stays on the engine and you just pull the trans out of it. Keep up the good work and be safe bro.

    • @cumminski
      @cumminski 3 месяца назад

      Im just a Finn,,, n im on vodka

  • @Tumbleweed_Tx
    @Tumbleweed_Tx 3 месяца назад

    i use stuff called "pigmat" for spills. It absorbs almost 10 times it's weight in fluids. It's best to just lay the stuff down in anticipation of spills since they're going to happen anyway.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      I have a box of it. Now, where I put it… that’s an important question

  • @ronaldrobinson5532
    @ronaldrobinson5532 3 месяца назад

    Buff off that Bee stripe and leave the rest! Car looks great!

  • @d1mennis
    @d1mennis 3 месяца назад

    I had a 68 Coronet 440 dark green with factory A/C. It looks like yours had factory A/C but now the heater hoses go from the heater core to the evaporator using both coils!

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      No, the second set of hose connections are the factory heater valve used on AC cars. The evaporator connections are taped off. But yeah, the important AC components are no longer winning with us.

  • @jamesmackinlay4477
    @jamesmackinlay4477 3 месяца назад +1

    Had a TCI converter come apart on me once but it was a low 10 second car that weighed 3700 LBS this stuff can happen BUT in this application that should never have happened, Don't matter even if the teeth got ripped of the ring gear should have never started leaking from there. I guess its better it happened in your garage then coming apart out on the hwy somewhere.

  • @dantupper1784
    @dantupper1784 3 месяца назад +3

    That failed weld is odd.
    I would hope the manufacturer would want the converter back to check & correct their processes.

    • @watsisbuttndo829
      @watsisbuttndo829 3 месяца назад

      That would seem like a reasonable response, in a time when the people that owned the company, worked at the company. Nowadays he will probably get put on hold at a call centre in malaysia.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Agreed, but as he didn’t actually buy it, we didn’t bother contacting them.

  • @troglodyte1969
    @troglodyte1969 3 месяца назад

    I didn’t know that the trans was fresh when I made my staining comment last video.
    And I agree, headers in a tight engine bay suck and that converter shouldn’t have failed with one kick back. I quit the biz after 31 years and have seen my fair share of shit that shouldn’t have happened but did.

  • @moparedtn
    @moparedtn 3 месяца назад

    You're right of course Jamie - that convertor should not have done what it did, regardless of the situation.
    Seems there's a bit of a QC problem at the ol' TCI factory there - that issue should have been caught before
    the unit ever got shipped.
    Never seen anything like it in my 60+ years....
    Oh, as far as the car itself goes, it's always bugged me to see "impact" colors on pre-impact color year cars.
    It just looks wrong - and couple it with the "murdered" trim (done in a fit of laziness, no doubt) and things get
    worse for me - but you wanna know what actually BUGS me about the car?
    That $%#$%# Super Bee stripe on a 500. Man, that actually REALLY pisses me off.
    Nothing screams "I'm a knob" more than someone doing that to an otherwise noble car!
    See you next one, on with the show!
    - Ed on the Ridge

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      The one thing I will say on the converter failure is that the crack around the weld cannot be seen, as it is in the gap between the ring gear and the main converter body. It’s gotta be a manufacturing goof up somehow, but they never could have seen it in a quality control check.

  • @chrisfrank8413
    @chrisfrank8413 3 месяца назад

    Puddle of Pain. Like it. Good band name.

  • @steves9905
    @steves9905 3 месяца назад

    I work in facilities maintenance and am a hobbyist mechanic. Today’s parts are CRAP… made far away in countries known for poor quality. I am old so won’t have to deal with this much longer but pity the guys coming after me

  • @cbobmonster
    @cbobmonster 3 месяца назад

    Another kick ass video Jaime and don’t worry about the haters lol

  • @mikegimenez2629
    @mikegimenez2629 3 месяца назад

    Make sure the block to transmission alignment dowels are there. Biggest cause of failed pump bushings, seals and excessive wear on the Converter neck

  • @bigwrenchtech
    @bigwrenchtech 3 месяца назад

    Until next time!

  • @gertv6777
    @gertv6777 3 месяца назад

    Wow the most random parts breakage possible

  • @mikeeiben3430
    @mikeeiben3430 3 месяца назад

    Consider Top Line Converter for a better value in torque converters. We pay attention to details.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Good to know! We actually have a converter shop in our area who we have dealt with many times too. The owner chose to replace it with another TCI. I hope that was a good call.

  • @Bob-Whiting
    @Bob-Whiting 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm gonna stick with my first opinion of "nice parts, loose boltage" or sumpin like dat dare. I used to work at a transmission shop when I was younger and I've never seen THAT. Just sayin', it's kinda interestin', and weird. EDIT: I'm pretty sure Torque Converter Employees may have seen that, but I'm willing to bet it's fairly rare.

  • @jonmoore8995
    @jonmoore8995 3 месяца назад

    Mr. Jaimie, could it be the combination of loose bolts, two missing bolts combined with the pressure on the ring gear allowed the trans case to move, ...while putting a jolt on the torque converter which cracked the weld?

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      That is my current line of thinking. And, it also has an aftermarket high torque mini starter (not the one used on 90s Dodge stuff.) But I will say, unlike the other two bolts that come in from the transmission side, the bolt closest to the starter that was actually there was tight. So I just can't say with certainty if that was a factor or not.

  • @tonyb3864
    @tonyb3864 3 месяца назад

    Well now that you brought it up...the black trim sucks. I also would have painted it a correct color for that year. And I would have kept it a coronet 500.... Yeah I'm a purest.

  • @loydheckenlively9426
    @loydheckenlively9426 3 месяца назад

    It's lots of carrots out in the world. And not everybody's gonna want to Chrome. Pieces around the vinyl top look Black. But are you wanna know some as long as you're happy with it? It doesn't matter what other people think. What matters is if you're happy with it and you enjoy your car. I think it looks cool and I'm not a big green's person fan. But I think that he's quality colors for that car looks really nice

  • @woodendoorgarage
    @woodendoorgarage 3 месяца назад

    Could it be that the missing or loose bolts on the bellhousing contributed somehow? Maybe allowed more front-back load on the flexplate?
    I was s a bit harsh on the car last time. To be fair the suspension looks like perfect setup. I blame it on the black trim. I hate black trim on classic cars. The color is not for me but still looks good. For 68 Super Bee I would probably go with GG racing green poly.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      I understand - and I agree. I am definitely thinking that the whole bell housing deflecting in that area could have been a factor, but I don’t know that conclusively to be true.

  • @majorpayne5289
    @majorpayne5289 3 месяца назад

    👍

  • @MetallicAH2O
    @MetallicAH2O 3 месяца назад +1

    It makes you wonder how long for this world those welds on the converter were in the first place. Like how many normal starts you might have been able to get before the same issue happened. It's truly lucky it happened in the shop. Is there any parts/material warranty?

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly. Who knows. He didn’t purchase it originally so we don’t really have any recourse.

    • @MetallicAH2O
      @MetallicAH2O 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarage That's too bad. At least he can get a better quality and more appropriate replacement installed now.

  • @mikedimaio1237
    @mikedimaio1237 3 месяца назад

    You didn't break the converter, you saved the transmission, at least the car doesn't have cragars on it.

  • @SolamenteVees
    @SolamenteVees 3 месяца назад +1

    What do you think would be an appropriate torque converter for this application? 3600 rpm seems quite slippery for a mild-ish engine.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      We went for 2500. We’ll see how it goes!

  • @user-cl5gd4xv9m
    @user-cl5gd4xv9m 3 месяца назад

    That's why the bowtie starters break so easy, they won't break anything else. Been doing this a long time and never seen a converter crack like that. Don't think you can take any blame on that one,just a good thing it happened in your garage and not on road ,worst things could have happened.😮

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Right. Totally agreed. And I haven’t either…

  • @Jim-ic2of
    @Jim-ic2of 3 месяца назад

    Bummer😮

  • @gasser66
    @gasser66 3 месяца назад

    "carefuling", is that what I hear? That's the best one yet lololol. 11:47

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      Oh yeah. That’s an AvE thing. One of my favorites. Haha.

    • @gasser66
      @gasser66 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarage AvE makes sense lol. I use some of his "ism's" as well, most notably "doll hairs" instead dollars.

  • @michaelfoster1453
    @michaelfoster1453 3 месяца назад

    yeah. It's shouldn't have failed if that was a performance converter. But there is always that one time. It should be under some sort of warranty replacement, I'd think.

  • @Ray-tf2fl
    @Ray-tf2fl 3 месяца назад

    THERE A GOOD THING HERE!!!! JAMIE!!! WHAT IF THE OWNER GAVE HER THE BEANS!!!! AND THANG BLOW UP!!! YOU REALLY SAVE THEM A LOT OF PROBLEM THAT COULD HAVE HAPPEN ✌🏻🎶🎵🎸🤘🏻

  • @crashsroadrunnergarage8612
    @crashsroadrunnergarage8612 3 месяца назад

    I did my /6 904 in my 86 d100 3 times before I realized the torque converter snout was cracked chewing up the seal😮😮😮

  • @legbah7
    @legbah7 3 месяца назад

    That’s why what happened, happened. Uncle did a video on that.

  • @DanMopars
    @DanMopars 3 месяца назад +1

    Might have happened when the starter kicked back on ya Jamie; as you suspected . Is what it is man. Get her back on the road bro.

  • @garryhatchett775
    @garryhatchett775 3 месяца назад

    Dang! First for me. My former boss bought a complete transmission from tci and it didn’t last 500 miles. A local rebuilder went through it and said there were several errors in tci’s build😳. What stall speed are you changing to?

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      We’re going with a ~2500 stall. It should work much better.

  • @codyhollinger6531
    @codyhollinger6531 3 месяца назад

    Just bad luck could of happened to anyone. Trim black out doesn't do it for me, but I'm all in for making your car your own.

  • @bradsrestorations1085
    @bradsrestorations1085 3 месяца назад

    Not related to the mechanical trouble, what kind of tail stripe actually belongs on a 68 or 69 Coronet 440 & 500?

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +1

      None. There is the Super Bee stripe, and the plain stripe used on the Coronet R/T (funny enough that's called a bumble bee stripe, figure that one out)

  • @davidbisnette7673
    @davidbisnette7673 3 месяца назад

    Is that firm feel rear sway bar on the car? The front sway bar if that’s a firm feel as it looks to be , I know how to get the 3 rd bolt in each of the brackets, it takes some super glue and an extendable magnet

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      I believe it is. Interesting. Haha.

    • @davidbisnette7673
      @davidbisnette7673 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarage just installed a front sway bar last week, once you figure out the correct placement of everything, it goes on very smoothly and I believe a well engineered piece, I didn’t have sway bar brackets on my lower control arms and the add on brackets fit and work very well

    • @davidbisnette7673
      @davidbisnette7673 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarage a new front sway bar tells you how bad you really need a rear sway bar as well, been learning much from an old b body , your videos are tremendously helpful so many Thanks for what you do

  • @davesmith7437
    @davesmith7437 3 месяца назад

    I agree not your fault that converter is made to take thrust and much more than you gave it on that kickback manufacture error most likely

  • @brentforte5950
    @brentforte5950 3 месяца назад

    That is one Sexy Mopar.

  • @bombfog1
    @bombfog1 3 месяца назад

    One of my take aways from this channel is that you need to be a competent mechanic or fairly wealthy to own and enjoy older cars. Other viewers please let me know if I’m wrong…that it is possible to have an old car that is a reliable daily driver for a non-mechanic, non-wealthy person.
    Most stories can have a happy ending depending on where you end the tale. Before I came upon this channel, Discovery Channel car shows from 15 years ago led me to believe that it was possible to have a reliable old car. But it seems that even if Jamie (sp?) rebuilds a MOPAR to spec and with great care, it’ll still have something go wrong not too long hence.
    Finally, the color of this Coronet and its black trim are dope.

    • @koboskolors
      @koboskolors 3 месяца назад +2

      All I can say is, you won’t be a non-mechanic for long. But I enjoy it. I think cars that never have anything go wrong, or are tuned all the way(meaning bugs worked out) are boring. That’s just me.

    • @steves9905
      @steves9905 3 месяца назад +2

      If you don’t have buckets of cash and don’t enjoy wrenching, you’ll need a high tolerance for breakdowns and some backup vehicles, preferably including a truck with a winch and a car hauler. Also, keep the car as OEM as possible as it’s usually the mods that cause breakdowns

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад +2

      I know people who have lived with old cars as daily drivers - in *stock* form. And problems happen, usually from neglect or decades of abuse. But it can definitely be done. The minute you throw a bunch of parts that don’t belong in a car trying to make a super car or something, the real problems begin. The more stock and original parts you hold on to, the better your experience will be.

    • @bombfog1
      @bombfog1 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarage Thank you, this perspective invites me to continue saving my shekels for a car of this era.

    • @bombfog1
      @bombfog1 3 месяца назад

      @@steves9905 Your perspective is much appreciated.

  • @moparcasey3135
    @moparcasey3135 3 месяца назад

    That motor still has the cast crank in it,I wonder if the whole bottom end stock?

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      Crank definitely, but pistons have been changed.

  • @Coronetguy
    @Coronetguy 3 месяца назад

    I can clear up the fluid stain on the header. It was caused by a loose tranny return line right above and in front of the header pipe. Again another of many many loose bolts and clamps..

  • @clembob8004
    @clembob8004 3 месяца назад

    I know I have never seen a failure quite like this torque converter. I am guessing someone did something not quite right when they built it. Any torque converter should easily be able to withstand an overly advanced engine kickback against the starter. If not, I think I would have had one or two fail on me over the past 40+ years because I have had many times where the engine was way advanced, or the plug wires off by one on the distributer, or the distributer off by 180 degrees or a combo of all of the above. All of which can make the engine do all sorts of crazy things.
    This really should be covered by warranty, assuming there is a warranty.

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      That’s what I’m saying! It’s weird. I couldn’t possibly count the number of times I’ve had a bit of a hard start like that. I showed it on camera too. It wasn’t even that far advanced, and it was one quick instant.

  • @samhicks97
    @samhicks97 3 месяца назад

    I'm almost ready to put the pushbutton A727 back into the bellhousing of the forward look car where it will reside, hope the transmission doesn't piss all over the floor on my end also!
    Anywho, same issue i had with the factory Torque converter, the Transmission has been pissing all over the place, hence why i pulled the tranny for a rebuild, and the leak was coming from the weld, coincidence?

    • @DeadDodgeGarage
      @DeadDodgeGarage  3 месяца назад

      I’ll be damned. That’s very interesting. Apparently it’s not all that uncommon.

    • @samhicks97
      @samhicks97 3 месяца назад

      @@DeadDodgeGarage for sure! Now I know also that's not at all uncommon. XD

  • @billcobb9408
    @billcobb9408 3 месяца назад

    TCI will say send it back and they will fix it. good luck

  • @michaelnault5905
    @michaelnault5905 3 месяца назад

    When the floor is red, it hurts your head! Better now than on the road.