The Death of Modern Comedy
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2023
- Comedy isn't in the best shape at the moment and shows like Velma and She Hulk certainly aren't helping. Let's talk about it...
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Comedy IS when you are balancing on the threshold of what's socially acceptable.
When the tendency is to inherently avoid any risk of offense, comedy simply cannot exist.
Look at corporate "humor." It's absolute cringe.
I remember that scene in "Life of Brian" where Eric Idle was stating he was a woman inside the "People's liberation front" and so they must include women in all their statements.
Can't believe this movie was made in 1979 and that scene is not a joke anymore but reality, and so many people would be deadly offended by that.
I never thought about that, I just think it's a funny joke.
History debunked has just done a short bit on that, you might find
interesting.
That is a great scene...obviously ahead of it's time.
Commenting between I’ve even watched the video to say comedy died in the uk in my lifetime. We went from the best comedy creators in the world to a place where the same comedians are STILL on tv. And lost any ability to make people laugh.
Jimmy Carrs basically the only one left.
We didn’t realise how good we had it 💔
Disparu get this man jonny onto nerdrotic or drinkers streams one of these days 💯💪🏼☮️
I'd add Ricky Gervais (in parts).
Watch you and Jonny’s videos, love them!
Curious to know! What’s you’re choice of top 3 comedy movies of all time? (No order)
Mine
1, Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking your Juice in the Hood
2, tropic thunder
3, step brother’s ✌🏻
@@senbimmons4474 Gary hates the Bing Bang Theory🤣
It makes sense that comedy is dying. Comedy is one of the best ways society has to point out its flaws and get its people to think. Why would anyone in charge want that?
Because are you no longer allowed to point out flaws.
Everyone is perfect the way they are! /s
That never occurred to me, great point!
They don't want you to
"Comedy brings people together."
Yes. And that's why they hate it.
You need to understand their definition of "inclusion". Their definition of inclusion quite literally means "exclude people I don't like, so that I feel more comfortable and 'included' in this space". Inclusion to the woke ideologue means "exclude bad people and things bad people like to make vulnerable people feel safe". That's the notion behind "safe spaces" on college campuses. It's the same idea.
Comedy makes you laugh at rediculous things
And that is why it is not allowed. because everyone must feel guilt all the time for everything.
Yeah the last version of inclusion is oddly exclusionary. It's inclusivity except for you. Whoever you may be. It's the most exclusionary inclusiveness I've ever experienced in my life. And I'm not a young woman.
@@slimbombur7922 laughing at something ridiculous might hurt some strangers feeling somewhere and some strangers feeling somewhere is more important than you.
They remind me the "The People's Front of Judea" from the Life of Brian. Because they only hate more than antiwokes are those not woke enough. Like When JW Rowling said her opinion of trans and the wokehood lynched her for not being woke enough and John Cleese for supporting her right to have an opinion.
@@MamaMOB 😂 and that’s genuinely funny!
Society has a way of correcting itself. If someone is making mean-spirited "jokes", it's fairly obvious and people usually are not going to support that, and if they do, then you know they are not people you want to be around. The need to censor and sanitize everything we say is condescending, and only serves to polarize communities. As Jonny says, jokes are our way to break down barriers and become closer. If we are unable to do this, it is actually damaging our collective social skills, and we become increasingly more separated.
Genius. This should be a college course. As predicted by Orwell, the less vocabulary we have, the less imaginative we become and the easier we are to control.
I hate that so many of the jokes on show come from bashing "geek culture." So many of them are based off of them just doing something nerdy, rather than finding a joke within the given situation. Like specifically the dnd episodes, the joke was that they were playing dnd not anything that was happening in game or as a result.
From the Master point o view you always believe: The players are idiots without any sense of logic thinking. And you don't realize that when you play the master thinks the same of you and The master is right.
@@josepnebotrius872 I have Dming for a few years now but two days ago i had an almost out of body moment when I saw my party as if I was the DM. It was very weird haha what a dumbass group we are. But it was a great session, we had almost 0 progress in story but the DM almost died of laughter for the stuff was going around haha
@@giuseppezeppelo8289 I played LOTR RPG but players behaviour make Rings of prime Galadriel look like a sensible elf and the story advanced at the same pace if didn't push the plot.
@@josepnebotrius872 ahah i see
Considering the sensitivity of today's society, I'm still surprised that It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia hadn't been cancelled to hell like other shows. And this gives me hope. This gives me hope that maybe.. just maybe the comedy and especially darker humour are still appreciated by enough people.
It's not just Sunny but South Park is going strong along with new Beavis and Butthead.
Yes, they even once said...
(Gulp)
The N word!!!
"You lobotomized invertebrates, go and float somewhere will ya?" Best comedy line I've heard in a while. I'm gonna use that 🤣🤣🤣
Comedy is dead. You can't make comedy without making fun of something or someone therefore today someone will be offended in one way or another. They will start crying in the media and your show will be cancelld for various "isms" . Thank God Monty Python did their movies back in the 70s when there was not such a thing as "modern audiences" . Today we became "modern" but lost any sense of humour. PS I love Big Bang Theory, it's so refreshing (and informative scence wise) compared to those boring sitcoms about various families with kids that behave and speak like adults.
I grew up in the '80s and 90s and we literally mocked everything. One of my favorite quotes from The Simpsons is
Lisa: Nuke the whales?
Nelson: Gotta nuke something.
We mocked the whales! We mocked the whales!
Life of Brian was heavily boycotted when it hit theaters. Most theaters refused to show it. Check your facts.
What about Big Bang is informative???
I watched a few episodes, learned nothing. I recocnized stuff, but that doesn't count as informative.
They don't explain things.
A perfect example of your well thought out premise: "Blazing Saddles"
Allow me to quote Albus Dumbledore, "Words are, in my not so humble opinion our most inexhaustible source of magic. Capable of both inflicting harm, and remedying it."
Wow, if Big Bang Theory is now considered edgy, what those people would say about Red Dwarf? 😅 Can’t say if I am happy or sad that it remains hidden in obscurity 🙂
But great video, Johny, thanks!
I liked the first 4 seasons of BBT. It incorporated many things that I loved as a lonely youth trying to figure out what this thing called "life" is all about, and somewhat still enjoy today. Science fiction, superheros, comic books and video games gave (and still give) me a release from the pressures and expectations of real life. We all need an escape once in a while and BBT reminded me of those escapes. Thank you, Jonny, and cheers!
Fawlty Towers is one of the funniest things to ever grace television. Grew up watching it and am completely unashamed to admit that I can quote the episodes by heart and they still make me laugh.
John Cleese is a legend.
Great way of breaking all of this down, couldn’t agree more. Particularly the line of “There aren’t hateful jokes, just hateful people”.
George Carlin was legend but his style of comedy would be burned at the stake in this climate.
Safe = mediocrity.
He had a great speach about watering down language to be less offensive. It's from tve 80s and it predicted what happened and is still happening.
@@CordeliaWagner That’s my favorite!
“You’re not handicap. You’re just differently-abled.”
“You’re not poor. You’re just economically disenfranchised.”
I do get the intent of thinking changing the language will diminish stigma and restore dignity.
But it’s just running the problem because the condition is stigmatized. Plus it can be patronizing because the people themselves don’t choose the language. Middle-class intelligentsia do.
Big Bang Theory was kind of the last of the1990's sitcoms. Comedy making fun of a trope. Friends was a show about 20 something making fun of singles in an apartment. Frasier was about the psychologist who was mental himself. Big Bang is Nerds being nerds. Even two and a half men was a trope of a womanizer womanizing. But now, Comedy seems to be under attack from people saying, you can't tell jokes at other people's expense. There's also another problem with Comedy on TV. The talent pool has expanded to include writing and actors that wouldn't have had a chance back in the I love Lucy Days. Mostly because there was a very limited opportunity. And that stuff was funnier then, vs all these jokes targeting a small segment of a demographic. Lucy made everyone laugh, not just nerds.
How dare you not acknowledge that 70s show
you can't tell jokes at other people's expense.; That is the point of comedy's core. Offend everyone heck yes
Now that you've mentioned it. The people I poke the most with my jokes are my closest friends. I've never seen it that way.
To be fair that's because you know your friends and you know how they'll respond to your jokes. You're also not a comedian. It's not literally your job to tell jokes. It's not your job to get large groups of complete strangers to laugh.
I'm still watching, and i agree with everything you're saying here. Comedy used to be great, but now, not so much. Modern society finds pretty much everything offensive, even though that's not the intention. I've recently seen the show friends be labled as offensive. It's just sad, really. Comedy is my favourite form of entertainment, and to see it in such bad shape is disappointing.
I truly think people find Friends offensive because it shows people interacting in real life. Real life is messy. Most of these people only have online relationships and so their relationship is nothing but talking. So the idea of miscommunication is horrific to them. When all of your relationships is just words seeing someone do something to someone has to be shocking.
Oh and if you're looking for another really fun show to watch let me recommend the show Friends ripped off. Living single. It's Friends but black and really cool.
What's been going on in comedy in the last couple of years is just a sad indictment- I could only shake my head in mortification at the people sledging Barry Humphries- the man who did more to break down barriers in his lifetime, than they could **ever** *_dream_* - one common-sense opinion about 'the big T', & he's _persona non grata_ ... Long live the immortal Dame Edna!❤👓👑👑👑
If the show was re-released in its entirety without 1 single laugh track, people who thought it was funny would quickly realize how their brain was tricked into laughing along with the laugh track like yawning after seeing someone yawn.
Oh man, I used to HATE that show back when it first aired and my sister and parents watched it nonstop! I didn't know that so many people hated it besides me, though, none of my friends would let me speak a single word against it.
For me, the biggest problem was Leonard. He's always portrayed as the sweet, innocent good guy, but in most episodes he cheats on his current girlfriend or is somehow terrible to the other characters. Also, Howard is freaking disgusting, and I don't remember him getting any better towards the end of the show.
The writing is also just terrible, a lot of the humor is just pop culture references, like I remember one of the jokes was "Mary had a little... Romulan."
I also remember there being a ridiculous amount of product placement in that show, like my dad bought an Alienware laptop because Sheldon had one, and such. They'd also mention specific brand names whenever possible and expect a laugh, like there was a judge who said, "I advise the defense to hurry it up because the Judge just popped an Immodium. "
Overall, the show feels like non-geeks writing a show based on what they perceive geek culture to be, writing it for non-geeks to enjoy and pretend to be geeky while watching, whilst making fun of and insulting the geeks they're supposedly glorifying, if you get my drift.
It also acts like it's smarter than it really is (they get quite a few of their facts wrong) and generally it's just not funny.
However, I was forced to watch some of it again recently and it's not as bad as I remember. It's still not funny, but it's got interesting situations and characters, and as long as you don't go into it expecting comedy gold it can be good comfort food television.
My Grandparents love this show. They laugh out loud. That makes me happy. And it’s enough that I can watch it with them and chuckle now and then. Never knew it was so hated, but I’m gonna watch this and find out why. On the other hand, it’s “vulgar” “rude” shows like It’s Always Sunny and my favorite import from the UK “Ab Fab” can make me cry with laughter.
Great work, Jonny. Wasn't expecting the seriousness of this conversation. Thanks for all the content. Been watching for a while just can't afford a membership.
Scrubs is still one of the best comedy shows from recent history IMO, and there was a short-lived comedy called Better Off Ted that was absolutely hilarious and made fun of huge corporations, scientists, managers, etc. No way such a show would be approved 10 years later.
And Scrubs has a lot of jokes that, if viewed today by the muppets, would get the show cancelled! Like, every nickname JD gives Turk would probably be declared as racist.
Todays world is just... pathetic.
Just the fact that Dr. Cox actively insults JD by calling him a succession of female names would be enough to set people off. Meanwhile, the show is brilliant, not least because the numerous fantasy/dream sequences are the best representation of the severe sleep deprivation of residents that I’ve ever seen 😂
Yes scrubs is amazing! I first saw it in elementary school so my first memories mortality are linked to it, lol. Nowadays i am planning to re-watch it again with my gf (she never saw it). YESSSSS better of ted was amazing i loved it!
When there was the news about the Mammoth made meatball i instantly thought of better off ted hahah
One of my favorite sit coms is My name is Earl
Sad to be reminded of Better off Ted, it was glorious. The episode about the buildings computer system for door and light control not being able to recognize black people, so every black employee gets a white servant to open doors for them, leading to an imbalance between employed skin colors, hence more black people are hired, not to work, just to skew the numbers, needing more white attendants and do on.
I nearly died.
@@rabenfedersonnenhut that episode was amazing!!
I liked the first seasons, then they kind of ran out of ideas... everyone were forced into this "normal adult" mold. But I do not hate it, watched it all the way through!
Even if I hated it I wouldn't demand it should be cancelled.
The only scene in the big bang theory that had me crying from laughter was when some dude was interviewing someone on air so Sheldon started pumping helium into the room so the dude would sound funny.😂😂😂😂
Jonny: *Mentions prohibition*
Me: Even when I'm not watching Lackadaisy, everything else makes me think of it...
(In all seriousness, this was a really nice and thoughtful video! I love your comedic reviews but more heartfelt takes like this are welcome as well._)
I loved Fawlty towers when I was a child, Blackadder or the young ones.
Profound and very thought-provoking. Great analysis jonny
I still like to rewatch stuff like Malcolm in the Middle because a genuinely funny show as that one would be a criminal offense if it was made today.
It's ridiculous but I can't laugh at the fact.
Friends is today and was very inoffensive in the 90s and for stupid stuff as there are no black actors. When I watched Bel air fresh prince I never worried because there were only black actors. Simply were funny so I didn't care.
That was pretty nice and very heartfelt my brother. Thank for all the laugh and good times inside out :)
Growing up with Red Dwarf, OFAH, 'Allo 'Allo and Black Adder. Best times.
heartfelt, insightful and on point. Great video Jonny!
Wow! That was not what I expected! A very sobering video & also pretty accurate. Keep up the good work. Laughter is such a gift, yet I do find myself enjoying fewer & fewer comedy shows. Confession.... I quite like the Big bang theory.....
Well done Jonny. Excellent piece, very thought provoking.
he doesnt miss
I liked it. Not the last 3 seasons though.
I didn't think it was possible to use the big bang theory as a prop for a manifesto, but this was a stroke of genius.
Love watching your videos. You’re very insightful and smart. Keep up the good work mate
Love your channel. Glad to see it grow🎉
Great video mate, love your view on this topic. Hopefully this will soon turn around but i am afraid we only just started.
10:03 That was almost as offensive as a premeditated first-degree misgendering of a man in a skirt wearing a green wig!
If you ever want to hide pron on your computer, hide it in a folder titled "Nickleback" because nobody is looking on there.
Excellent video, Jonny. May we hear your voice for a long time to come!
respect for that video, very well spoken and versed. Unfortunately you are right in a lot of ways, and what you said in the end always reminds me of this quote "if you want to know who is in power, then look at whom you cant make fun of".
I freaking love this channel! I came looking for cheep trash (rings of power trash talk) But I stayed for the gold content. Keep it up man ^^
I can remember when camp comedy was funny, even back to Kenneth Williams' Julian and Sandy sketches from the 60s (they were in Round the Horne, a BBC radio show that aired at 6.30 pm). RIP Paul O'Grady, last of the line I guess (tell me if he wasn't)
You make such a wonderful point in this video! Comedy is important for people to connect with others, and the elimination of it is so fundamentally mindless.
That really explains why Facebook and youtube has attempting pushing new comedians that does nothing but lectures or low tier jokes on shorts.
Honestly new comedians hasn't made me laugh. Unless your iq is pretty low or preschool banter like creating jokes on farts😮💨... i have find new ways to amuse myself honestly. It's pretty sad.
Oh my God, just watching the clips in your video. THE BIG BANG THEORY IS SOOO FUNNY. Thank you for reminding me. Oh, and I am a woman, and I’m craving for misogynistic humour at the moment. I am so tired of cringe-laughing about popular entertainment these days. And I love nerd talk. Isn’t that what all you RUclipsrs are doing? All the time? Guys, you are sitting in your children’s rooms with posters on your walls and collectibles in the background. So, keep on doing what you’re doing, I like you as much as I loved The Big Bang Theory. You are in good company.
Well said!
The only speech that needs protecting is the speech you don’t like.
This vid is a great comment on the upheaval of language in current culture and the modification of speech (particular in terms of humor) in an authoritarian way.
Your comparison to the prohibition of alcohol in the US of the 1920´s brings it to the point. Well made! (I liked that "Falwty Towers" had its deserved mention in it)
Beautifully said, well done, sir. Thank you for making this video. You're awesome.
Very well put! Way better said than I could.
as a watcher of bbt i always find it funny that those idiots saying the show is "mysoginistic" but doesn't point out the female characters for example Bernadeth (howards wife) first we were introduced to her as a sweet girl but somehow progressed into a controling wife who doesn't care about his husband's opinions (for example selling his stuff and manipulate his friends to help her) she also takes his achievements as her own a.k.a a narcissist behavior. Amy isn't as bad but i do find it eyerolling when she keeps saying "what about female"" this is offensive to female" Thirdly the worst of all of them PENNY first is she use her beauty to attract weak men to give her what she wants (mind you she get MAD at sheldon because he has a rule in his own apartment to not touch his food) and let's not forget the line "what's leonard job? her: mak me happy then what's your job? her: letting him make me happy" and the amount of respect he gives his own husband isn't that much bigger than an atom that leonard is the one who suffers the consequences of her past "lovers". i know the male characters have flaws and bambling idiots but if people point out flaws of characters then why ignore the others?.
Hi Jonny,
I only discovered your film channel a few days ago and was surprised by the quality of what you had to say. My first reaction was to click you off straight away (it's obvious you're English, which is a good thing, but you seem more like a steelworker who also bought a PC the other day and is now giving the thing a go instead of someone who knows about movies), but after just a few seconds that feeling evaporated.
Comedy, if I understand it correctly, is the art of exposing someone - it's hardly about anything else.
Look at Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy, look at Mister Bean, Charlie Chaplin or other famous comedians. Which of them represents a happy person in their role? And the more brutal and merciless these poor souls are exposed, the more we usually laugh ...
By the way, I always found the "Big Bang Theory" funny. It wasn't outstanding, but it often hit aspects of nerd culture quite accurately. After three seasons I was fed up with it, but had thoroughly enjoyed myself until then.
Good luck still for your channel and do not overreach yourself in the steel mill - harhar.
Great video, good social commentary without being inflammatory or ‘owning the libs’
The biggest burn on Nickelback being compared to Big Bang Theory.
Great video! And I love your Nickelback reference. They've literally been my favourite band for the last 15 years.
Greetings from Bulgaria!
As a nerd, I love the show. It is smart, funny, and pretty much better than any other contemporary comedy movies and TV shows. The most of all I love about it is that it actually allows the characters to grow and change, as it happens in real life.
Over time it hasn't become worse. The amount of adult toddlers has skyrocketed in the recent years. They didn't understand the main concept of the show - people are imperfect, often unbearable, but can change over time. It's called growing up.
There's an episode in IT crowd, one of if not my most favorite episode where the main characters watch a gay musical. There's also an episode where they make fun of how the parents of one character dying in a fire at seaworld is pretty dumb. I don't think those things would fly today.
When I was in prison we had some discount cable provider on the main rec TV....big bang theory, 4 episodes a night, every night..for 3 years. You do the math.
Very insightful essay. You are one intelligent guy, Jonny💪🏼🎉
5:50 They don’t get it - when critics and fans complain about their feminist self-insert protagonists being awful people (like Captain Marvel, She-Hulk, and faux-Galadriel), they often reply that plenty of popular male characters display the same traits, and promptly scream “misogyny”! The fact that they are portraying the negative traits not as flaws to be overcome, but as virtues that are a sign of perfection, completely escapes them! They really don’t seem to see the difference - that portraying something and endorsing or praising it are two different things!
I didn't expect this video to be this much of a good and sharp analysis. I might even give you chance with another video a in the future!
In Italy BBT was the new thing back then, even (particularly) among nerds. I enjoyed the first 3 seasons, then it became stereotypical...i mean it became even more stereotypical than it was at the beginning
Perhaps we ought to consider that humour from the Western side of the pond is a world apart from that of the UK. My mum and dad both immigrated to South Africa just after WW II, and they both were from Romford in Essex, so I was raised to know and appreciate "Cockney" humour, and USA humour always struck me as "pie in the face", "shout louder than the other person" and "get your laughs by insulting and humiliating". So perhaps the tile of the video ought to be "The Death of Modern American Comedy"
This is honestly a solid video, and I absolutely agree. Comedy at its best equalizes us all and makes us question social conventions in a palatable way.
Great Video! Such an important message and well said! ^_^
I remember changing channel every time i saw The Big Bang Theory..
English is my second language which I grew up speaking from age 5 .I couldn't bring myself to laugh when I watched a bit of big bang I thought I'd learnt the wrong English 😂😂😂😂
Jonny Law, I wonder what you would think of the The Golden Girls (1985-1992) episode "Mixed Blessing" (s3e23)? It was actually taken off of Hulu after its alleged use of "blackface." Later, the episode once again appeared in Hulu's catalog, as modern audiences decided that it wasn't "blackface" but it was actually a funny moment that added levity to the heavy theme of racism. Race wasn't even an issue in the episode.
This isn’t a read, I didn’t recognise this video as one of yours from the thumbnail, it looks so much cleaner and simple compared to all previous thumbnails.
Thanks for a new upload, I enjoy your voice. Not bad to look at either ❤
Man you are really good at expressing some valid points
Great one!
I really enjoy your opinions, man. Subscribed
I can almost see the return of the speakeasy as a comedy bar.
Well, as far as I remember the characters in Big Bang never changed, but I can agree on the principle drawn.
Big fan of the BBT here...mainly the first eight seasons...really before Sheldon became involved. Women, they screw guys up even on sitcoms. They are doing the same thing to Friends. They even bleep some lines out now - it's fricking ridiculous. So many comedians I grew up with and loved could not survive today. Sad that so many people have lost their ability to poke fun at ourselves. Anyway, very well done sir.... and no need to make excuses for watching and secretly liking the BBT.
Oh and one last thing....we don't want to offend each other right...but people love TikTok and that is a huge part of the content.
I remember Basil being disrespectful to a dead kipper, I think that was only bad thing he did in that episode.
Community (before cast change) was my ultimate show
I agree that The Big Bang Theory is overhated but not my favourite either. I do agree with you about comedy as well.
I actually found Faulty towers because of It Crowd. I wanted more British comedy
It isn't just Big Bang Theory. The example I'm always giving is Greg Gutfeld being the king of late night comedy now. The guy who was previously just a decent comedian is now the one with all the ratings, beating out Kimmel, Conan and Falon etc. It has less to do with him suddenly becoming amazing, and more to do with the fact that he hasn't changed while the culture around him has just gotten way way way safer and less funny.
I don't see the Master Sword anywhere on Raven Forge :(
spot on, great analysis 👍👌
You have a talent for words. KEEP IT UP!!!
Fawlty Towers is the funniest comedy I've ever watched, I couldn't breathe from laughing the first time I saw it when I was a teen, and I still love it. I watch it again every year. I prefer British humour in general, and I'm not sure why, it's more witty maybe. The only American comedies I like is The Nanny and Friends, and even that I can't watch anymore because of how much i despise the character of Rachel and how badly she treats Ross.
Great video dude. Couldn't agree more. Especially on the laugh track.
I suppose I was never smart enough for big bang theory jokes, dood. It was very surface level stuff like : "I don't have much time, so I must go fast. Like the Flash. Because the Flash is very fast" (laugh track). Somehow just referencing something was funny, guess because "haha it's funny because it's nerd stuff." Must be that's why the show eventually went away because it helped in making this superficial "nerd culture" stuff mainstream and the audience could not laugh at itself.
Actually, I loved the show. Watched the whole thing, and many of the episodes I watched again on reruns, specially the ones I really liked a lot. There are a couple of episodes that are bad, but most of them are quite funny. :)
Excellent video, well done.
I always hated the big bang theory; I didn't realize so many other people did also. I suppose I never talked about it either, though. I mean I didn't actively hate it, I watched a few episodes, said this sucks, and moved on.
Well argued and articulated. Thank you.
i found the big bang theory actually good compared to the trash that is coming out nowdays.
Big bang theory is comedy for people that think they are smart
Its alright. Not outstanding, but doesn't deserve the hate.
It's difficult to write comedy that works for everyone. The comedians I've spoken to have some of the most respect for Brian Regan due to being able to be so funny while always remaining clean.
Same. I get a decent laugh out of it.
I found legitimate trash good compared to the trash media made today
I’m not sure why, but I feel this is your best video so far. Funny as always, but what you had to say was so well said. Well done!
As video essays go, that Sir, was spot on.
This is some genuinely wise stuff! Watching this should be obligatory before you're allowed to use twitter, or internet in general.