“I had to cut off my feelings” | Rena Bernstein on Psychological Trauma | USC Shoah Foundation

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2023
  • "In order to survive, I had to cut my feelings off completely. It was intolerable and impossible to go on living with the kind of feelings I was feeling. Terror, abandonment… […] In order to survive, I had to cut off my feelings and live a fantasy, which is what I did.”
    At the age of 4, Holocaust survivor Rena Bernstein was separated from her parents, who sent her to hide in a remote wood in Poland. Rena’s powerful testimony delves into the immediate and permanent psychological consequences of war and genocide.
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  • @chrisblevins755
    @chrisblevins755 Год назад +241

    I've watched this brave woman's testimony a few times before. She was so veryvyoung, yet so brave. She was in the worst situation as a child, and I'm glad she had the forest, and her imagination to help her stay safe. This woman is amazing, I hope she knows how many people have watched this, and how her life has inspired, given strength to others. She's so strong.

    • @kaybyrnes5944
      @kaybyrnes5944 Год назад +23

      What a beautiful woman.
      A reminder of the generational affect war has on us, especially the children. God help us as man continues to create wars.

    • @nancyfiala7673
      @nancyfiala7673 Год назад

      😊

    • @wladimirzandt4085
      @wladimirzandt4085 Год назад

      ​@@nancyfiala7673❤❤

    • @wladimirzandt4085
      @wladimirzandt4085 Год назад

      ​@@nancyfiala7673❤❤

    • @lynette3151
      @lynette3151 Год назад

      She was sick and dirty and ignored. I'm so sorry you had such a horrible childhood.

  • @Liz333Rab
    @Liz333Rab Год назад +119

    She became an articulate adult despite being alone and hardly speaking during her crucial, formative years.

    • @meowtotheworld4801
      @meowtotheworld4801 Год назад +6

      Her dad was a doctor. The children of professionals are at a huge advantage when it comes to language acquisition.

    • @Liz333Rab
      @Liz333Rab Год назад +14

      @@meowtotheworld4801 It occurred to me that by not speaking much to her, the man & woman weren’t necessarily being cruel; they were protecting her from learning things that she might repeat to the wrong people, such as the soldiers that came to their cabin.

  • @Kittykatkw2000
    @Kittykatkw2000 Год назад +121

    She cuts herself no slack and lives with such regret but yet her family speaks of a person that she doesn't even realize is herself. What an amazing story of survival and courage. Thank you Rena for sharing so openly.

  • @mikeappleget482
    @mikeappleget482 Год назад +107

    This is by far my favorite testimony and I’m only 1/3 the way through. So enlightening hearing her recall her perceptions of this horror from a child’s point of view. And she is absolutely gorgeous - and so down to earth and sincere! She radiates beauty & strength.

    • @purenkool2011
      @purenkool2011 Год назад +11

      I concur.🥺

    • @etm567
      @etm567 Год назад +1

      an incredibly beautiful woman! But what does that count for? It is an accident of birth, but so was being Jewish, in those days.

    • @kenduffy5397
      @kenduffy5397 Год назад

      Stunningly beautiful amazing woman!

  • @angelaonthego
    @angelaonthego Год назад +86

    Her granddaughter is unbelievably smart and also very sweet. Its very hopeful. t took 2 generation to filter out the PTSD. We should remember that-even if we’re lost and our lives are a shambles, maybe it’s still possible to create something good.

    • @voyaristika5673
      @voyaristika5673 Год назад +18

      I've listened to many Shoah testimonies, and I'm so amazed at how virtually all of them survived to "create something good." It truly boggles my mind. Incredible.

  • @purenkool2011
    @purenkool2011 Год назад +66

    This story deserves a book and a movie!❤❤❤

  • @uaeio
    @uaeio Год назад +55

    This is just horrifying, how all of this had happened in Europe. Rena’s family was saved by Poles, just like part (only three persons) of my father’s family, close to 70 persons were murdered by Germans, and this number is related only to these with my last name… This testimony is priceless. At the end of her story I was crying, from empathy and from self pity.. “I was a weed in the polish forest” - she said. Thanks God there was polish forest and some good polish people.

  • @pegasus5287
    @pegasus5287 Год назад +98

    This woman's story has stayed with me since I first listened awhile back. I was so moved by it, I pray for her and all the other beautiful survivors every day. This is an amazing story of survival. Beautiful yet so heartbreaking at the same time. Thank you for sharing this

  • @sheilacabrera3986
    @sheilacabrera3986 Год назад +49

    Her aunt probably kept telling her she wasn't her aunt bc you can't trust a child not to give something away, NOT bc children are devious, or clueless, but bc they are beautiful, innocent children she may have been trying to not just protect herself, but her niece as well.

    • @hollystiener16
      @hollystiener16 Год назад +6

      I am sure she realizes this. SHe was asked how she felt at the time and that was what she was conveying.

    • @sheilacabrera3986
      @sheilacabrera3986 Год назад +1

      @@hollystiener16 Good point.

  • @lioraz3701
    @lioraz3701 Год назад +55

    I could listen to Rena speak for hours. Her story is extremely touching and so full of longing for something out of reach. She's of my parents' generation and I'm also Jewish, so I found her story very meaningful in a personal way. Also, her descriptions of her time alone in the forest are described so evocatively, from a child's eye view, that one can almost picture it, feel it.

  • @lollypop2413
    @lollypop2413 Год назад +28

    This recollection is sooo important to me. My polish mother was same age and lived in same locality by the sound of it. Mother became orphaned and sent to siberia at 4yrs old by russians. Mother was too traumatised to retell. So this would have been going on around my mother as a child. The only thing she told me was mothers were crazy because their children were killed. Thank you for this memory. My mother recollected running in the wild bush as a child in Zimbabwe ...chasing butterflies in bare feet. They both escaped under Gods hand...He was never far away

  • @tchefunkta
    @tchefunkta Год назад +86

    Ms. Bernstein is MAGNIFICENT. She so so beautifully recounts her story of utter terror and survival. Her description of her symptoms of complex PTSD and the challenges of living with her parents with profound PTSD were heartbreaking and most instructive. The interviewer was shockingly horrible-she literally cut off Ms. Bernstein’s powerful testimony numerous and her tone deafness to the tremendous trauma Ms. Bernstein experienced was appalling. I hope that this was the only interview she conducted.

    • @johnpangburn5367
      @johnpangburn5367 Год назад +4

      Wow! It is amazing she is sane. How horrible.

    • @listenhearmenow
      @listenhearmenow Год назад +18

      A comment was made about the coldness of the interviewer. Understand how she feels but all the interviews are run in this way. If the interviewer breaks down it becomes all about her feelings and takes attention away from the subject. Her questions guided this woman and at times saved her from her own overwhelming memories. She is trying to establish a time line so it becomes a coherent history. She does go back to pick up the loose threads later on in the interview.
      This woman remains traumatized and needed this outpouring and a listening ear to talk to. Just that much and no more.
      The interviewer listened well and asked all the right questions and gently guided her, any sign of sympathy and she would have shut down.
      I was also a traumatized child, and the only people I could talk to about it much later in life were those who knew how to listen from a respectful distance without being intrusive.
      All I needed to hear was: I’m sorry that happened to you.
      And that was enough.

    • @moirapettifr7127
      @moirapettifr7127 Год назад +8

      I thought the interviewer did a good job. There were so many emotions to wade through.

    • @tinahochstetler2189
      @tinahochstetler2189 Год назад +7

      I thought the interviewer did good. Some people find it very helpful to pour out their heart and al their trauma, and that's what this interview let her do.
      Others can't talk about the trauma they may have experienced in their life. It seems that Rena is one that needed to finally be heard and to get her story out.

    • @skippingstones2023
      @skippingstones2023 Год назад +8

      This interviewer is doing precisely what she should. It is not her role to become emotional. She is a guide and guiding very well.

  • @kimmancha4314
    @kimmancha4314 Год назад +38

    She reminds me of Meryl Streep. I could see Meryl portraying this woman's story. Amazing she has come out so strong and optimistic for her future. To find a love in your 50s after 4 decades of trauma, to be determined to find help to move beyond the trauma through her therapist and other things mentioned are beyond inspiring.

    • @vickieadams6648
      @vickieadams6648 Год назад +3

      True she does favor Streep. To me, I would say Joan Crawford (eye brows)

    • @Pamsterdam75
      @Pamsterdam75 Год назад +3

      @@vickieadams6648 More Joan Crawford in her younger years - she's a brave and beautiful woman.

    • @averayugen7802
      @averayugen7802 9 месяцев назад

      Riveting. Shattering. Stop violence everywhere NOW! That said... she is a role for a younger Meryl Streep, amazing stunning astonishing beauty of face and movement! Meryl would have loved playing her, they are absolute sisters.

    • @Highlander9740
      @Highlander9740 9 месяцев назад +1

      She is more beautiful inside and out than Meryl Streep.

  • @LS-ek1fd
    @LS-ek1fd Год назад +23

    She was born in the same year and month as my Mom. Somehow this makes her life story feel closer to me.She is beautiful like my Mom too.

    • @lollypop2413
      @lollypop2413 Год назад +1

      Ine too...in same area but orphaned by russians and taken to siberia. Mother was polish

  • @relax2dream164
    @relax2dream164 Год назад +26

    This woman has the soul of an artist. I hope she can take the time to connect with that side of herself again some day. Such a tragic story from a most horrendous and shameful time in history.

  • @themoose70
    @themoose70 Год назад +16

    This is among the most compelling videos/stories i have ever seen. Wow Ms. Bernstein is perhaps the most self-aware person I have heard. What a true inspiration of expression, compassion and inner strength. She has given a gift to the world!

  • @kathleenmckenzie6261
    @kathleenmckenzie6261 Год назад +24

    At one time I had a friend who was the daughter of Holocaust survivors. Her parents survived the camps, met and married after liberation and my friend was born after they arrived in the USA. I think I now have some very small glimmer of understanding of her childhood and why it was so different and difficult.

  • @gloriakourounis6976
    @gloriakourounis6976 Год назад +43

    A very sad story but by the grace of God she endured it all. She reminds of Rima the girl who lived in the forest of Green Mansions, a novel I read many years ago. BRAVO Rena! You are a pillar of strength to many who are oppressed, isolated and lonely. I send you love❤.

    • @miketomlin6040
      @miketomlin6040 Год назад +4

      Show some respect!! No God nonsense!

    • @miketomlin6040
      @miketomlin6040 Год назад

      @@gloriakourounis6976 God/s are archaic, protozoan constructs. They remove one from reality. Here the reality that millions of people were killed by a Populist/Fascist form of governance.

    • @martinayari3529
      @martinayari3529 9 месяцев назад

      God didn't do anything to help her!!! He allowed it to happen in the first place!

  • @amandaa2119
    @amandaa2119 Год назад +43

    She looks so young. Thank you for sharing her story. I'm so sorry for everything all of these survivors had to endure. 🥺🥺🥺

    • @suzyvegalicious5646
      @suzyvegalicious5646 Год назад +7

      Exactly what I was thinking. Very young.

    • @katarinasvensson9801
      @katarinasvensson9801 Год назад +4

      Yes I thought it must have been something wrong since she looks like a young women I never thought she could have been born before the war. She is wery beautiful.

    • @herediafamily
      @herediafamily Год назад +2

      This was filmed in the 90’s, so she was still pretty young 💕. I can’t imagine the strength it takes to share what she is sharing.

    • @wanderinggeri8477
      @wanderinggeri8477 Год назад +5

      @@herediafamily this was filmed in 1998. She was 60. Remarkable.

    • @laurenanderson7330
      @laurenanderson7330 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@wanderinggeri8477yeah I had to do the maths because I thought no way is she 60 😅

  • @claudiasoare2299
    @claudiasoare2299 Год назад +18

    She is one of the lucky one to still have her parents and the possibility to go to US….God bless her!

  • @MySnaz
    @MySnaz 4 месяца назад +2

    On top of this courageous woman’s testimony, she brings to understanding the way trauma affects a child. In ways you may not realize.

  • @marthacastro9162
    @marthacastro9162 Год назад +30

    April 7th 1938?????
    She looks so young!
    One can only have admiration for her!

    • @adielstephenson2929
      @adielstephenson2929 Год назад +11

      She was only 60 here.

    • @winros
      @winros Год назад +5

      @@adielstephenson2929 this video is round 28 years old! I've been watching her since 5:30 this morning she is very intriguing! I could be friends with her! ✌🏻

    • @adielstephenson2929
      @adielstephenson2929 Год назад +3

      @@winros She's dead now, sadly.

    • @winros
      @winros Год назад +1

      @@adielstephenson2929 I figured perhaps she would be... I loved her story I love the way she was holding her granddaughter! Between you me, I'm 30 minutes late for work! I was just so intrigued with her I had to finish watching the rest of the video! So what my patient needed heart surgery they can wait an extra 30 minutes 🤣 just kidding! ✌🏻✌🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻

  • @Raminakai
    @Raminakai Год назад +37

    Thank- you Lovely Lady, Rena for sharing your story.
    Not that anything can be compared, but what you shared about those feelings of not belonging, feeling disconnected, detached, I am certain many children traumatized at a young age, can relate, at least on some level. And we honor your experience and soul.
    I worked for many years with adults with special abilities myself. Somehow, I could relate to the non-verbal people. And also find great joy in artistic express, color. Music. Healing to us!
    Thank- you for your honesty.
    Thank- you for mentioning the effects of multi-generational trauma.
    Amen 🙏
    Shalom 🕊

  • @deborahliveli6510
    @deborahliveli6510 Год назад +89

    You can tell how traumatized this lady still is. How terrible for her to have those kinds of memories. Poor soul 😢

    • @harrynking777
      @harrynking777 Год назад +12

      Blessed are those poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    • @debrapaulino918
      @debrapaulino918 Год назад +8

      Yes but she had the forest. The hut might have been a tiny back room in the city she could not leave. The forest saved her. They didn't abuse her. She had food. Strong lady.

    • @chenry1279
      @chenry1279 Год назад +5

      ​@@harrynking777 Psalm 34:18, "The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those crushed in spirit." Rena is not poor in spirit (contrite/penitent) but broken in spirit. The Bible teaches that God wants to bind up the brokenhearted and restore what the locust have stolen. He has the power to redeem and to turn mysteriously what was intended for evil into something life giving. All themes from the Hebrew Scriptures, like from Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Joel, David, Noah...

    • @harrynking777
      @harrynking777 Год назад +3

      That is your interpretation and you may well be correct. However, I'm not sure if there is much if any differnce in what I said.

    • @joybernard7813
      @joybernard7813 Год назад +3

      You have a lot to look forward to. You have a Messiah, Jesus, who wants you and can give you a healing of memories and all the healing and restoration you need.

  • @robertafierro5592
    @robertafierro5592 Год назад +12

    I'm in awe of anyone who had the strength to survive this frightening era.

  • @kathykiernan2
    @kathykiernan2 Год назад +50

    I think Rena describes the sentiment that second-generation survivors had it worse than their parents because their parents had a Before, whereas they only had an After.

    • @chenry1279
      @chenry1279 Год назад +8

      That's a profound observation. Comparing the second-generation with a child survivor. It's all about attachment or insecure attachment, "lasting negative effects and whether the event(s) caused them to lose their sense of either Order (the world makes sense), Justice (justice is available), or Self Value (knowing that they are a person of value), or all three." Quote from Shonna Ingram

    • @annalisavajda252
      @annalisavajda252 Год назад +7

      Well yes and maybe many children of baby boomers had parents with ptsd too and so they learn some of that hyper vigilance and anxiety and how to cope or not with stress. She may be more stressed while having to talk about it than in her regular day to day life. Some people think talking about trauma is helpful I don't think that's always true it just reopens old wounds for some.

    • @katharineharrison9091
      @katharineharrison9091 Год назад +2

      Epigenetics has proven that trauma is passed down through the genes. So the trauma was felt as a child survivor and passed to her children.

    • @wanderinggeri8477
      @wanderinggeri8477 Год назад +1

      In what way is she a “second-generation survivor? She was born in 1938 and was in Europe during the Holocaust.

    • @chenry1279
      @chenry1279 Год назад +4

      @wanderinggeri8477 She is like a second generation survivor because she didn't have a before trauma life. But you're right, she's bona fide first generation.

  • @karenbonnici6204
    @karenbonnici6204 Год назад +27

    This lady is a very strong woman, always fighting to make sense of a life that was traumatic beyond anything I have ever imagined. It's unimaginable. May the rest of her life be peaceful and rewarding. Prayers.

  • @shawnmcquillan3874
    @shawnmcquillan3874 Год назад +41

    My heart aches for this little girl…. My heart aches…. Never forget what was done to these ppl… we must stay vigilant that history not be repeated…. Guard our freedom… don’t take it for granted

  • @chuckbus
    @chuckbus Год назад +23

    I love the photographs at the end of your story Rena, brava for staying alive!

  • @kassidymiller3223
    @kassidymiller3223 Год назад +9

    What an elegant and composed lady

  • @kambrose1549
    @kambrose1549 Год назад +12

    Janek and Magda were really brave to shelter the little girl

    • @sweetvictory5643
      @sweetvictory5643 Год назад +3

      They did it because Rena's mother paid them very well. As Rena said before the war her parents lived very comfortably. That Polish couple was poor and by sheltering Rena they were generously rewarded. Money talks.

  • @ginaf2103
    @ginaf2103 Год назад +17

    Such a beautiful and articulate woman. ⚘️😥

  • @ritamedina-molina8550
    @ritamedina-molina8550 Год назад +17

    You are an amazing person Renia..I hope you might find your peace in an afterlife where there is no cruelty just peace and the scent of a beautiful forest...may your soul find everlasting happiness..this world is too cruel for a delicate soul like you.

  • @debrapaulino918
    @debrapaulino918 Год назад +11

    The younger son has especially benefitted by the interview. He struggled to express feelings much like her. This interview has helped him to realize he hasn't connected well with himself or with her.

  • @Katy_Bug89
    @Katy_Bug89 Год назад +19

    I am so terribly sorry. I cannot begin to know how painful all of this was for you. Never in my life have I heard something so sad. I am so glad you survived and that you are able to relay your account to the world. Thank God you survived.

  • @andreaschreck653
    @andreaschreck653 Год назад +42

    Thank you so much for uploading the videos and thank you for sharing your memorys. I think its sometimes difficult to go back in those cruel bad times. The story touched me very deeply. This is history not told by historians but from those who suffered it.

    • @lyricalaska
      @lyricalaska Год назад +1

      I had a dear friend, Helena Schreck. She was from Hungary and perhaps born in 1932 or so. She lived in Detroit, Michigan. I wish I had spoken with her at length. Your last name reminded me of her.

  • @BasiaEDP
    @BasiaEDP Год назад +5

    In current day, there are still some people in Poland still don’t have bathrooms with running water - she is very lucky to have good people to help her.

  • @janetblanc7658
    @janetblanc7658 Год назад +19

    How awful that her mother couldn't relate to her changed child. She should have been so grateful that her baby survived but who can judge people who were all so traumatized.

    • @karinberryman2009
      @karinberryman2009 Год назад +14

      Nobody was normal after such chaos, sustained terror, dysfunction so that they were in such a state of regression they were like children. After the war all those who had escaped had to talk about their experiences, what they’d seen, who they’d lost. That was psychotherapy.

    • @janetblanc7658
      @janetblanc7658 Год назад +2

      @@karinberryman2009 ❤️

    • @waitaminute2015
      @waitaminute2015 Год назад +9

      You don't know that her mother wasn't grateful. Not everyone can express themselves the same. Often people laugh at funerals, for example. Keeping it all in is a protective instinct sometimes. After so much trauma, it might feel like bad luck to be happy, as if you'd jinx something if you said it out loud. Emotional reactions feel dangerous. Best to just remain vigilant and militant.

    • @janetblanc7658
      @janetblanc7658 Год назад +6

      @@waitaminute2015 oh dear, I have to admit I laughed hysterically at my mother's funeral. It was a wholly nervous reaction as I loved my mother and was broken hearted. It was VERY embarrassing.

    • @BeckBeckGo
      @BeckBeckGo Год назад +1

      Who indeed….

  • @sherigraham3873
    @sherigraham3873 Год назад +23

    Rena your experiences were harsh and your ability to go into yourself and escape the ignoring and non-communicative strangers you lived with as a very young child are a study in the human ability to cope. Thankyou for sharing your remarkable experience! You are so amazing and beautiful ❤️

  • @sandywuerch
    @sandywuerch Год назад +10

    I feel this younger son is really holding back and should just speak his mind and let it out.

  • @mariayfarris7710
    @mariayfarris7710 Год назад +11

    I've listened to your story twice, so moved by your experience. Your forest as you describe it was your saving grace. Mother nature, the forest and stream cuddled you as best she could.
    You survived. Bless your heart, thank you for sharing your heart felt story. Your forest picture behind you speaks volumes. Beautiful!

    • @MrsPicklesIsHome
      @MrsPicklesIsHome Год назад +2

      This was filmed in 1998 when she was 60 years old. Someone said she had since died.

  • @lemongate4869
    @lemongate4869 Год назад +21

    Some years ago, I had a Polish neighbour who had spent most of WW2 in a concentration camp as a child in Siberia.
    Although she was not Jewish, there were Jewish prisoners in the camp.
    When she was about 14, she and her sister and her parents escaped the camp. But, unfortunately, her parents were shot and killed while escaping.
    She and her sister made their way to Poland and reunited with their brother.
    She migrated to make a new life for herself, married and had children. But by the time she had become my neighbour, as an elderly women, the trauma of spending basically her entire childhood iin a concentration camp, the trauma of watching her parents being murdered, the trauma of escape and evasion and fighting for survival in the wild, had taken a tremendous toll on her.
    I have nothing but absolute respect and compassiion for all these survivors of a life most horrid.

  • @pcote001
    @pcote001 Год назад +8

    I must thank Rena and her family for telling us their story. It seems that learning the incredible experiences of one person provides a much deeper understanding and appreciation of the enormity of this crime than is possible by a recitation of statistics, as horrific as they are.

  • @BUSTER.BRATAMUS
    @BUSTER.BRATAMUS Год назад +10

    Classy, smart, and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your story.

  • @fleurkus
    @fleurkus Год назад +3

    Such a beautiful woman with the saddest childhood . Thanks for telling your story.

  • @michelleseratte9730
    @michelleseratte9730 Год назад +3

    The person who conducted the interview showed no feelings, no emotion whatsoever. Ms Bernstein was wonderful.

    • @E-Kat
      @E-Kat Год назад +1

      This was an interrogation, not an interview. Complete lack of connection with the answers, no empathy. Poor Rena.

  • @alicemcduff3416
    @alicemcduff3416 Год назад +5

    The way she finally laughs and smiles when she mentioned her last husband Vlad ☺️

  • @ArtingFromScratch
    @ArtingFromScratch Год назад +9

    She wrote a book called BITTER FREEDOM with her mother and I believe is still alive

  • @kathleenlang3747
    @kathleenlang3747 Год назад +29

    That interviewer actually interrupted and changed the subject at times! The interviewer was fairly abrupt and rather tonelessly rude at times. But how poetic this woman is as she remembers the wild lost child-woman she had to become!

    • @taryntimms3787
      @taryntimms3787 Год назад +7

      The interviewer was awful

    • @raycortopassi4030
      @raycortopassi4030 Год назад +5

      Most of these interviewers for the USC Shoah foundation are not very good. They come across very cold and interrogate rather than interview these survivors. They should have received some type of training to acquire basic interviewing skills.

    • @alicemcduff3416
      @alicemcduff3416 Год назад +3

      Totally agree. Most of those interviewers are awful!

    • @magda_madej_perez
      @magda_madej_perez Год назад

      Agree. Don't like the interviewer at all.

  • @wanderinggeri8477
    @wanderinggeri8477 Год назад +4

    She’s 60 years old! She looks amazing for 60!

    • @MySnaz
      @MySnaz 4 месяца назад

      She looks barely 40

  • @MatMat-qi2rd
    @MatMat-qi2rd Год назад +3

    This interview truly touched and moved me. This lovely woman has almost a magical way of expressing herself and sharing. The tragedy of war. I hope she could / can find some piece of mind. Moving...

  • @connieforonda3983
    @connieforonda3983 Год назад +4

    As i listen to her, she makes me cry.. How cruel those years were ...And how she fluently describes her feelings and situations... At 4 years old , she was an intelligent, imaginative , resourceful brave little girl.
    ( i describe in the present .. )Makes me SO SAD... I CAN'T HELP BUT CRY..
    GOD...

  • @Faithful10415
    @Faithful10415 Год назад +3

    This was so gripping. So impactful. What a remarkable woman. What struck me the most was how she went from someone who felt nothing, who felt disconnected from the world and people no matter what age or situation to her sons and daughter-in-law describing her as warm and caring and compassionate. She didn’t allow the horror to define her. She sought healing and found it. As I listened to the story of her suffering, of her world and the suffering they endured I just have to believe that someday ultimate justice will be meted out by a just God Who gave men free will to decide what kind of humans they would be. As a Gentile Christian I am ashamed and appalled at the treatment they received at the hands of their Gentile neighbors. Not to mention the utter evil and despicable unspeakable treatment at the hands of the sadistic and reprobate Nazis. Each man will stand before God and give an account for their lives. No one escapes eternal judgement and the ultimate destination of their willful choices whether righteous or evil. Thank you for sharing these powerful powerful stories.

  • @fada7903
    @fada7903 9 месяцев назад +1

    It is hard to even imagine the suffering during those years, specially for children. I understood her parents did their best to save her life and their decision to hide her in freedom (while themselves were into a horrible "prison") shows the much they love her, how precious she is for them. Life is a blessing, no matter what, and we should do our best to fight the temptation of feeling sorry for ourselves and for being alive.

  • @T_WC123
    @T_WC123 Год назад +1

    Ms Bernstein gave us a great gift of sharing her story.

  • @YaakovBuchner
    @YaakovBuchner Год назад +8

    This was such an amazing blessing to me. I pray they're doing well.

  • @katriel8693
    @katriel8693 Год назад +11

    I notice the painting of the forest behind her

  • @janthorpe9577
    @janthorpe9577 Год назад +9

    She is so beautiful.

    • @ashleym.9682
      @ashleym.9682 Год назад

      That’s what I keep thinking! And also curious as to just how beautiful she must have been through her years.

  • @stephaniesnape6787
    @stephaniesnape6787 Год назад +2

    This is such visceral, harrowing testimony. Thank you Rena for your testimony. It is so important to highlight the enduring trauma caused by such extreme childhood events. I am so in awe of Rena’s journey and determination to heal her trauma.

  • @deecawford
    @deecawford 9 месяцев назад +1

    She is one strong woman. It’s as if her parents were hurt so bad that they couldn’t even talk to her about it. They could talk with other adults but she had no one. I know her precious parents loved her, look what they did to keep her safe.

  • @gailbrown4124
    @gailbrown4124 Год назад +2

    How gracious Rena is. Thank you for telling your story. I was enthralled listening to Rena, even imagining the forest and being that little girl. Abandonment issues never go away. Bless her soul.

  • @cynthiasundberg980
    @cynthiasundberg980 Год назад +5

    Inspiring, impressive... An absolute joy mixed with a broken heart to watch and comprehend. Still,... I can not comprehend but I would love to hear hours and hours of her stories. Also, of all the interviews that I watch, this INTERVIEWER sounds the most warm, respectful and kind.

  • @maggieadams8600
    @maggieadams8600 Год назад +5

    Another amazing woman's story moves and inspires us. Such lovely families, people traumatised by war; thank you for sharing them with us, they speak to our hearts!

  • @mandycooke8445
    @mandycooke8445 Год назад +6

    Such a beautiful lady.
    I have a daughter and she now has a daughter that is four. I can’t imagine the heartache of having to give her to strangers to keep her alive. So incredibly sad.

  • @nancycrabtree6312
    @nancycrabtree6312 Год назад +3

    The tendency toward life, the struggle to live is such a God-given innate quality. The fact that Rena didn’t give up is the greatest miracle of all. She got no help at all and that she never sought therapy for so long is frustratingly sad. The tragedy being passed on to the next generation is very sad beyond description. (I also think the interviewer is rather robotic.) Her life finally has gotten better, which is a relief. It’s finally a story of triumph. Rena is a beautiful lady who doesn’t look at all her age.

  • @bernadettewilkie5996
    @bernadettewilkie5996 Год назад +25

    I have to say, I've watched A LOT of holocaust documentaries, this one as odd as it sounds, is one of the strangest, saddest stories I've heard. You would think, "well, she didn't suffer, she didn't go to the camps." I am totally happy that she didn't go! But it was her loneliness that got me. If I were the woman in the hut, I would make her feel so loved and comforted her!
    However, I was thinking the following:
    1. Its their culture to "not care" for kids. Or at least it was their way of raising kids (not to knock on the culture, it is what it is I guess.)
    2. I think she was distancing herself from Rena on purpose. I think the woman from the hut was trying to emotionally protecting herself and the little girl By not showing any emotion.
    Does that make sense? idk..

    • @elsayedina
      @elsayedina Год назад +7

      I’ve watched so many as well, but by far this lady’s testimony is very touching especially when she was never was spoken to and never communicated with anyone for two years. God bless her.

    • @bellaadamowicz8380
      @bellaadamowicz8380 Год назад +8

      There were other cases where children were saved by the peasants, and they were loved and treated well they were poor, but kind

    • @purenkool2011
      @purenkool2011 Год назад +10

      Yes, things you stated do make sense.
      However, it does not matter to a child WHY they are rejected, like flowers they need to feel loved and protected. This is an account of the war through a CHILD’S EYES.

    • @RowanWarren78
      @RowanWarren78 Год назад +2

      I can't agree with your first point. In actuality, these families were very close and cherished their children. The word Holocaust means destruction. Everything they had, down to their basic family dynamic, was destroyed; ripped apart. People saw their loved ones, often their own children, brutally murdered in front of them. Naturally, those who survived had to go into a mental zone where survival was the primary focus. This leaves little room for emotional vulnerability and/or attachment.

    • @wanderinggeri8477
      @wanderinggeri8477 Год назад

      What “culture” are you referring to? These were Christians caring for her.

  • @sunflowerroark5170
    @sunflowerroark5170 Год назад +3

    I believe she can't get past the pain enough to appreciate her life being saved.

  • @Xestra37490
    @Xestra37490 Год назад +5

    I think it’s very important we hear about it, speaking about it although it’s not that many survivors left we should have documentary shown in schools. If we don’t, history repeat itself. We as human we tend to ignore or things that happened in the past is seen as long time ago It’ll not happen again. We’ve to establish strong values to human life and kindness and compassion. Today’s society is seen this values as weakness we’re in a wrong path.
    Thank You 🙏🏼 for your testimony.

  • @danalley6381
    @danalley6381 Год назад +2

    Interesting how the younger son, a songwriter, had such difficulty putting his thoughts into words. Yet, he had no problem describing himself as such a patient, supportive, and admiring child of Rena.

  • @carolineh8605
    @carolineh8605 Год назад +3

    The only time I heard joy in her voice was when she spoke about her husband. I hope they lived a good many years together after this interview.

  • @adrianavandermerwe2536
    @adrianavandermerwe2536 Год назад +2

    This was profound, had such a connection with her and her story. Amasing woman

  • @deeptir5557
    @deeptir5557 Год назад +50

    She was left with random men yet not sexually abused is a miracle. 🤦🏽‍♀️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @claudiasoare2299
      @claudiasoare2299 Год назад +2

      Pervert people were a rare find than!
      Born in 59 and I could say also that as a kid or later in life I never heard things happened to kids in my country….

    • @mlonardoxu
      @mlonardoxu Год назад +8

      Yes definitely and she was in danger in the forest too

    • @daveniaful
      @daveniaful Год назад +1

      Poles are not Russians.

    • @katarinasvensson9801
      @katarinasvensson9801 Год назад +13

      Yes and she must have been a true beauty back then I mean she is gorgeus now

    • @howardarmstrong2009
      @howardarmstrong2009 Год назад

      No m

  • @debrapaulino918
    @debrapaulino918 Год назад +5

    She is or was beautiful. Her hair is perfect and exactly what I imagine for mine. She is articulate and sophisticated. A woman to know. I too love the forest. I understand her.

  • @hoobyhoo
    @hoobyhoo Год назад +2

    Another sad, yet unbelievable example of the human spirit and survival. She's a wonder, for sure. This is trauma beyond even the victim's comprehension.

  • @KenjiMapes
    @KenjiMapes 20 дней назад

    Rena is a warm, articulate, smart & regal woman. Despite childhood traumas & a byzantine early life that saw her bounce around & beset my multiple obstacles she is surprisingly grounded & not bitter. She is an open book & self-deprecating which I think were coping mechanisms for her. Many times she mentioned how mentally unwell she was for a protracted period which is a testament to her self-awareness & openness. She is a pretty lady as well.
    Despite having gone through many traumas & witnessing horrors through WW2 she has endured through it & triumphed. She has refused to stay a self-pitying victim when she basically had license too. Despite suffering multiple trials & tribulations beyond just WW2 traumas she is very well adjusted. She is quite impressive. Listening to her speak about her memories & experiences is captivating. It’s fascinating & captivating to hear about the unique personal experience of a Holocaust & WW2 survivor. It’s important we keep these conversations for posterity.
    This was 30 years ago in 1994 which is crazy! How time flies. Perhaps Rena is still alive. She was probably around 60 here. Hopefully she is still around enjoying her family.

  • @mylesmcswiney4991
    @mylesmcswiney4991 Год назад +2

    That memory in the forest where Rena describes the beauty of the meadow flowers while all around was death and destruction is so powerful

    • @vampoftrance
      @vampoftrance Год назад

      The painting is exactly how I imagined her forest hut.

  • @SuperJill1111
    @SuperJill1111 Год назад +3

    Why... why, does the interviewer always have the best microphone and we never hear the victims as well as we hear them..

  • @BMarPiano
    @BMarPiano Год назад +3

    Oh, my. This was so moving. Hard to put into words. What this beautiful, kind woman went through was so horrific. I’m grateful to her and her family for being so open. Her account of the devastating events of her early life was both eloquent and heartbreaking. I will be thinking about this for a long time. Thank you for sharing this and other stories so that we will never forget.

  • @maryloufremlin4152
    @maryloufremlin4152 Год назад +11

    Beautiful lady ❤️

  • @canyonhaverfield2201
    @canyonhaverfield2201 Год назад +1

    Nothing approaches these extraordinary heartbreaking accounts. My whole perception of humanity has taken a deeply profounding level of collapse. Thank you dear hosts & dear Rena for these profound sharings. Its likely the scene she clearly describes as the forest she imagined her parents were hiding within, is the scene portrayed in the painting hanging behind her. My guess is that Rena is the artist.Thank you dear Rena for your profound generous honesty, your bravery to retouch these memories so eloquently. You are a part of me now. Sincerely Canyon

  • @lisaleonzis5303
    @lisaleonzis5303 Год назад +9

    This is the most profound story of survival. Her youngest son. Loves nature.. she past down her childhood friendly forest 🌳 nature nurture 🌲🌿☘️🍀🍃🍄🌺🍁🪷🌾🎋🌳🌸🌼🌻🍂🌱🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿🌿

  • @janpierzchala2004
    @janpierzchala2004 Год назад +7

    Józef Zwonarz wraz z żoną Franciszką odznaczeni medalem Sprawiedliwy Wśród Narodów Świata w 1967r.

  • @cmactrail
    @cmactrail Год назад +9

    I did things that I'm not proud of when i was a teenager, not terrible things. But it is crazy to me what people can do to other human beings because of their ethnicity or color.

    • @alicemcduff3416
      @alicemcduff3416 Год назад +3

      ... or even their vaccination status....

    • @annetteloquercio3174
      @annetteloquercio3174 Год назад

      @Alice McDuff
      💯⭕️❗️....
      ..yesss , over the years I've often had that very same thought ...& as I've seen/ heard many accounts of the imperialist ' leaders' ..ie; stalin, lenin etccc , and what they did to ppl in their country and beyond...
      Ppl reporting of that time said , " we never thought anything as so much hatred and wbat was happening would ever have been done by another human being ."
      I remembered thinking , alll the things I've
      seen/ heard , , personally- since '20 , I would've never thought the same amendments would also be stripped and mandates now in place are the norm .

  • @calken546
    @calken546 Год назад +49

    WOW She doesn't look 60!!

    • @a.c528
      @a.c528 Год назад +2

      What? I thought she was 40

    • @Itme
      @Itme Год назад +2

      These are older videos. Many of these witnessed are dead. These stories are their legacy. May we remember

    • @guymoe81
      @guymoe81 Год назад +1

      This was filmed in 98 so I'm guessing she's about 85 today if she's alive.

  • @naomiaa2989
    @naomiaa2989 Год назад +3

    Rena wow what an amazing resilient person you are and thank you for sharing this. I am always happy to listen to you and care so much about you.

  • @ptrunk1
    @ptrunk1 Год назад +1

    Thank you, Rena, for your clarity. I appreciate how hard you've worked in therapy to be able to tell a story full of self-knowledge and insight into human nature. You've inspired me to be stronger myself.

  • @marthaoliver1099
    @marthaoliver1099 Год назад +6

    Very brave woman !

  • @mariadiantherese9663
    @mariadiantherese9663 8 месяцев назад

    This woman is precious. So grateful for her generosity of spirit to share from her heart how she overcame it all.

  • @TheRealThornRosa
    @TheRealThornRosa Год назад +4

    We are here NOW to bear witness

  • @NINA-mq2vu
    @NINA-mq2vu Год назад

    Her accounts of the war started with horror but the vid ended with a giggle and hug wit her lovely son. That really mad me cry. What a beautiful and smart woman. And I’m so sorry that you had to go through a traumatic experience at a young age.

  • @czaderka87
    @czaderka87 8 месяцев назад

    I have been living in Warsaw, Poland for years now but I am originally from Sanok. Thank you for sharing Ms. Bernstein’s story of remarkable resilience ❤.

  • @AnarchistPoop
    @AnarchistPoop Год назад +9

    It's interesting how people with similar experiences are able to tell things from a more positive and grateful point of view because they were older, and able to understand better what was happening.
    She was a toddler, and could only understand emotions and instincts, and thus, her imaginery of this dark silent overwatchers, the cold distant mother, etc.
    Speaks of how differently children perceive the world.

  • @chrisberan3886
    @chrisberan3886 3 месяца назад

    I totally get her. The early childhood trauma was so horrific forced her to build a thick wall her feelings were locked up. Rena was unable to connect with her inner self. She might have faired better if she had been with her parents in the dugout hole. Rena was unable to live life as she was unable to connect with her inner Psyche. You can not move on until the task of each stage of development is completed. I am glad you finally got the help to make yourself whole again

  • @amiematthews6469
    @amiematthews6469 6 месяцев назад

    I somehow carry with me, this brave woman’s story in my heart at all times. Her courageousness is inspiring!! She has so much longing for what should have been and yet it seems to me that she can never quite reach it. That feeling is so powerful that I can feel her attempts to find it. Blessed peace is what she deserves. ❤❤

  • @janejones5362
    @janejones5362 Год назад +1

    I used to hear my mother, grandmother, aunt, always talking about ww2, but my grandfather, who fought in Europe, never did.

  • @Sad_bumper_sticker.
    @Sad_bumper_sticker. Год назад +1

    I also watched her Testimony in the originally uploaded video. Hers is among the testimonies I keep dear in my mind and heart. I am glad it was uploaded again now for others to watch.

  • @silverfoxidm
    @silverfoxidm Год назад +1

    Sorry to hear about the many misfortunes (the burdens of life)!
    It reminds me of Susan Challis also affected by the war in Denmark 🇩🇰 as every story teaches of such adversity beyond human endurance & yet they survive miraculously & become a strength to the rest of us !

  • @rosaliecarter-kretz8228
    @rosaliecarter-kretz8228 Год назад +9

    Thank you Rena for sharing your life, you truly are an inspiration.🌻

  • @cynthiasundberg980
    @cynthiasundberg980 Год назад +1

    This interview is excellent and so very sensitive. So much was retrieved, released and respected as this beautiful woman was given an excellent opportunity to share her experience s... so richly. GREAT INTERVIEW, GREAT INTERVIEWER!!!

  • @bobbyketchup1466
    @bobbyketchup1466 Год назад +17

    Thank you for your pure heart. The deep love she inspired in all who have been fortunate enough to watch this. After all she's been through. Then sharing and helping other is heroic.