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Very important thing about Aemma's birth: She was going to die no matter what. It was whether or not the child could be saved. Otherwise, they'd both die. It's very tragic.
I think Nat got that. Her issue was that Viserys just made the choice without telling Aemma what was going to happen. She died confused and scared and in even more pain because he didn't take a moment to talk with her.
Started with: “Fuck you dude” Ended with: “Daemon’s looking hot, I kinda love it” And THAT is the duality of Daemon Targaryen. Equal parts dark and light, villain and hero, The Rogue Prince.
Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains. -writings of Gyldayn
@@AstroSully Spoilers: "LEEEEROOOOYYYY..." -Prince Daemon Targaryen in his moment of redemption, ending it all in a blaze of glory to take out the other big homicidal monster of the war.
@@AstaraBrightwing I suppose it's since we see Daenerys burn so many people with dragonfire and remember Aerys as his father and then it just jumbles together in people's heads as "Targaryens, dragons, burning people, dragonfire" and then everybody forgets to add wildfire into that equation since in the show the scenes with wildfire are played by Lannisters, so people learn to associate it with them. People tend to need to watch GoT multiple times before they catch on to all the connections in the storyline, it was very realistically written in that sense.
It really is! Like I can't be on board with everything he does & the way he does it, but he's easily my favorite character. Anytime he's on screen you know somethings gonna go down lmaoooo
Just to make you aware, both Dragonstone and Corlys’s home, the Island of Driftmark, are on the far edge of the Blackwater Bay, so it would actually probably be a pretty quick trip. (GRRM said a dragon ride from Dragonstone to King’s Landing would take 4 hours)
Corlys Velarion actually DID build his seat and family's wealth himself. He started sailing at a very young age and had 9 legendary voyages that made him wealthier than any other lord in Westeros, even the Targaryens.
@@havok6280 fr I don’t know how either. people are just eager to view this show through our current world lens even though westeros isn’t our current world lol.
so much hate on the cis white male... like i dont know much about child birth but if the baby isnt coming naturally its not just going to die in their and be reabsorbed by the mother right? shes dead either way i cant imagine having a corpse rotting inside you would be healthy or is that how it works? fetus starts to rot making it easier to pass?
Caraxes Daemon's dragon is my favorite. Fun facts: he's deformed, that's why he looks like a danger noodle, he has a deviated septum and so he can't roar properly that's why he squeals high pitched as much as he does and his jaw is crooked. Other dragons don't really like him except for Syrax Rhaenyra's dragon. Also dragon's can feel their riders emotions, like when Daemon was shot Caraxes freaked out, and when Syrax showed up Caraxes was happy
yesss caraxes is the most interesting to me. looks a bit like mushu from mulan lol. im glad they're making each dragon different and unique, it's great
Possibly more firewyrm genes than wyvern in Caraxes, but the genetic yatzee wasn't detrimental to functionality, so he survived and grew. The deformities of the dragon hatchlings seem to mirror the deformities of the dragon babies; pale and blind seems to be a common theme.
Good thing to keep in mind Natalie, the whole of season 1 is like 60 pages of the book. There's multiple huge time skips in this to get the ball rolling.
Exactly, from the opening scene to the end of E10 nearly 30 years pass. Some people had issues with major characters being recast; I personally didn't, but I am a book reader. I get where that would be jarring. IMO the periods skipped by the time jumps didn't have any major events, just some character development and relationship evolution that was not crucial to show. As viewers we missed out on getting acquainted with several interesting characters, but none of them have direct impact on the upcoming civil war.
The thing about Corlys Velaryon: He actually did built up his house. The current castle of House Velaryon, High Tide, was built with the wealth he created by doing nine great voyages to the east of the world.
Viserys didn't really have an option. The Maester basically said we can attempt to save the child or else risk losing both. The birth scenes are so heavy in this series, arguably a bit too much by the end in my opinion. It definitely portrays childbirth especially before modern science as gruelling and the womans 'battlefield' as stated by Queen Aemma.
He still had the option of asking for her consent, or let her make the choice herself, even if it wasn't really a thing for women in this universe (or in our past).
@@floaltea You don't think she would've chosen to try to save the baby too? She would've made the same choice, but yeah I got no clue why he wouldn't warn her beforehand at least
@@floaltea consent within a marriage wasn't a thing in our world until the 1970s. It still isn't in countries like Saudi Arabia. It isn't reasonable to expect it in a fantasy medieval world.
@@floaltea Of course, but he was stuck trying to keep the peace of the Realm. No male heir means war, but then he is haunted by the fact that not only did he torture his wife for the good of the realm, but it was for nothing.
I love her perception of what the show will be at the beginning of this, that there will be no other sons and Rhaenerys and Daemon will be fighting each other. Can’t wait to watch everything evolve!
This show has brought me back into the Song of Ice and Fire universe. I was so done after Game of Thrones and was fully prepared to never look back, but this has reignited my love.
You’re definitely not alone, D and D rushed seasons 7 and 8 and it can be easily argued that the quality dropped when the books ran out after season 4 despite a few shining moments in season 6. This show had the best of GOT with Miguel and a true ASOIAF fan in Condal aswellas a finished story. No wonder it’s better quality so far aswell as a larger budget!
@@joepagram8287 Oh please, many haters were going to allegedly boycott HBO after the finale and then mocked HOTD for being "woke". D&D did not ruin anything and GOT last seasons increase in ratings are proof of that. HOTD showrunners defend D&D, and it will be the best fantasy tv show just like GOT.
@@ianvera4299 so because you disagree with my opinion that’s fine it why I used the word ‘arguably’. Furthermore I never said people weren’t trying to boycott HoD. your allowed your opinion as much as I am allowed mine.
"Poor Alicent was just told to come here and do this and now she's gonna be pinned as like this manipulative woman" and considering the *King* himself told her to keep quiet about it...... yeah. Mind you he didn't consult her before the announcement, she kept trying to mend the relationship for *years* and she's the one who insisted Rhaenyra has a say in who she ends up marrying. I'm just hoping you'll keep all of this in mind i guess
@@anais6654 I think she was trying to be a good daughter, a good subject to the king and a good friend after that if she could, as she was raised this way. You can’t expect 15 years old girl from this kind of upbringing to go against it without any support, and Rhaenyra is not a female rights fighter who would lend her this kind of support IMO
@@anais6654 even if the King never told her to keep it quiet do you genuinely believe her dad would've let it slide? she was obviously not supposed to go around talking about how she's the one being sent/called into his chambers
@@adamgreyjoy8333 there was no choice. He could have "left it up to the gods" and both would still die. For Aemma it would have been long and agonizing.
@@adamgreyjoy8333 There's not really much of a choice. You either attempt to save the baby or they both die. Viserys not telling her exactly what's happening is a choice that can be debated but I think that was just him not having it in him to tell her that she was about to die.
Bit late to the party but your remark about the king being cut by the Iron Throne: there's a superstition in Westeros that if you are not worthy of the throne, you will cut yourself on it.
It's a dumb superstition though. Far as we know neither Joffrey nor Robert were ever cut by the throne and Viserys was a much better king then either of them.
Daemon loves his family entirely, but his ambition rises above that. He’s one of the greatest written characters honestly- totally morally gray. Three kills in the 3rd episode, Rhaenyra needing to kill something coming at her to prove her worth as does Daemon except he went after the kill, and then Viserys who doesn’t want to but needs to for status, something that’s was caught for him. Viserys really fumbled the bag with naming rhaenyra heir, he did not keep the realm in mind but more so did it out of fear
@@havok6280 you have a right to disagree. Spoiler***** But he would rather die than see anyone other than his immediate bloodline on the throne (why he acts the way he does towards Rhaenyra later on, wanting war with the Greens) that’s not due to wanting love- daemons entire character is driven by legacy, even the stepstones- instead of taking his brothers help and build a bond with love he hates it, directly contradicting your statement. While yes he does love his brother and wants his attention, that is totally not the drive of his character at all, it’s legacy. My opinion on it from everything we know. Now when he’s young he wants to be recognized, he doesn’t want to be heir really as we see later - but in the end it’s always ambition and legacy that are at the top of his list
@@LS13. I agree with everything u said to some extent, but Spoiler** After the large time jump he clearly wanted to just stay in pentos and live a happy life with his family, proving at the end of the day that is perhaps his biggest motivation. I feel as tho he acts the way u described later on because he is a strong willed person and wants to ensure that his family receives what they are owed - otherwise they would be seen as weak which he is not. Plus daemon just really hates the hightowers because otto was taking advantage of his brother for years - again he cares about his family. So while he is motivated in part by legacy and pride, it is family that is at the center of his decisions
Morally gray? Lmao. Just because someone can love while doing horrible psycho shit doesn't mean they are gray. I like him as a character too, but he's evil and psycho as they come. Spoilers*** He kills his wife, he (kind of) has incest sex with a minor, murders people in kings landing. commit war crimes... etc. I'll say this though: He's not as bad as some people in GoT though. He has some redeeming qualities but hey, so did hitler...
@@ganjasayjuh I don’t even know if I’d say good father. Don’t get me wrong, he clearly loves Rhaenyra, and I think he absolutely could have been a good father if he hadn’t been the king. But the pressure of ruling and the manipulation from his small council turned him into a pretty neglectful father.
@@JNDReacts yeah i understand what you’re saying. he neglected her, which probably wasn’t as bad before aemma’s death. what really sold him to me though was allowing her the choice to who she would marry, until it became clear that she was incapable of acting for herself. that’s interesting, though. he wasn’t the best father but he had undying love.
Mysaria understands High Valyrian, although we don't know exactly where she comes from, she's from Essos and probably from the old Valyrian Freehold, so she has notions of Valyrian and knew what they were talking about. In the books, she comes from Lys and has the valyrian look, with blond hair and pale skin.
@@goldenclaw_ you said she was from the old valyeren free hold itself which we both know is impossible you should have just said from one of the free cities.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Are you like a cop of perfectly accurate statements? Still, what I said is valid, it was to emphasize the fact that she comes from a place where they used to be under the influence of Valyria. And by your logic we shouldn't say Targaryens are from Old Valyria since it does not exist anymore. Hint : that's why we say "Old".
I think the maester made it pretty clear that Aemma wasn't going to survive that birth. The choice was save the baby or save neither. Great video though.
Vizzy T was honestly one of the best dads in the show. All he wanted was for his family to get along. He was a good man, but a weak King. Somehow that's always the case in asoiaf.
As a reminder, Daemon loves his family, like he’d kill anyone that threatened them. He still feels like he needs to show his worth and that he doesn’t need peoples help. Daemon has ups and down but you’re never not cheering for him!
People tend to forget the fact that the queen was already having bad pregnancies and wanted to stop, but was pressured into having them in order to produce a male heir.
That's the duty of a queen, the price of their opulent and privileged lives. If she wasn't willing to do that then she could have abdicated her position as queen and had their marriage annulled so that the King could marry someone else.
I know you probably won’t read this but there is in fact a metaphor for Viserys cutting himself on the throne Aegon the Conqueror, the man who built it, intended for it to be uncomfortable to sit on because as he said “A king should never sit easy” and someone who cuts themself on it is considered to be unworthy to rule
before the c-section, i believe maester mellos tells viserys that aemma is going to die no matter what, or at least implies it, if that eases things at all.
At long last! This show has been incredible, but I also never lost my love for GoT so I was still on the hype train. I can't wait 2 years for season 2!
29:49 she might know their language; if she’s from the free city of Lys, she would know a dialect of High Valyrian, since the city was part of the Valyrian Freehold before the Doom.
Can confirm. The Free Cities speak Valyrian (not High Valyrian though). The dialect was nicknamed Bastard Valyrian. Point being, she 100% knew what they were saying.
I was sooo not excited for this show when it was released. But after watching it I'm back into watching GoT lore videos/theories on what will happen in the books.. This show has more promise since its far less complicated than the ASOIAF series.. So I think we'll continue to get an amazing season 2/3
For anyone who's confused about how fast they travel back and forth between Dragonstone and Kingslanding, Dragonstone is relatively close to Kingslanding, on Dragon back is less then a day.
about the boar thing: Rhaenyra sad that she hates the sound of dying boars, its reminds here of the sound of crying childeren. I think here stabbing the boar over and over again symbols her hating the fact she has now a little brother, and that child is in her brain replacing her.
Here I sit, listening to you talking about the trailer, and the possible plot lines, and the characters you like or dislike… And my reoccurring thought is… Oh, Nat, you’ve no idea) I won’t spoil anything, but trust me, this season and its characters will surprise so, so many times.
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One thing they said is that the queen would die either way. They could either try to get the baby out or just let it happen naturally but either way she was going to die. So Sad
This discussion has raged in the comments of every single episode reaction to the show. Surprisingly, there are some very staunch "viserys is the worst person in history" people.
Viserys making every single wrong decision for what he deems as the "moral" decision in this fucked up world is soooo good. They lay it out so well what a character
When he told her to go choose a match /mate one that suits her as he did, he wasn't talking about Alicent , he was talking about her mother, he chose her mother that wasn't arranged at all regardless of what Viserys did to Rhaenyra's mother. He honestly did love her with all his heart, and what he did haunts him immensely.
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IMPORTANT: Aemma was going to die no matter what!! It was either try and save the baby and basically kill the wife in the process, or let the baby kill her and quite possibly itself. Viserys made the right call, imo. Might as well try and save one than let them both die
Most people gets Visery's choice wrong, so I like to point it out: Saving Aemma wasn't an option. The maester said it clearly: "sacrifice one, or lose them both." Aemma was going to die regardless of his choice, if anything he could've chosen to "leave it to the gods" and maybe make it so she didn't suffer with milk of the poppy, but lose the child along with her anyway. Sadly, they don't have the means to extract the baby without hurting the mother and causing death by loss of blood.
You can pretend I don't understand all you want. YOU can't point to him saying the show confirms what is true in fire and blood, because he didn't say it. You can't even say I didn't understand him, because you can't even point to what he said. It sounds like you learned that fire and blood has an unreliable narrator and now you are just parroting it without having read it. I've already made it clear I understand what fire and blood is. The book having an unreliable narrator DOES NOT mean the show is clarifying what is true to the book universe. It just isn't. What the show depicts says nothing about what may have actually happened in the book. And George has NEVER suggested that the show does that. He didnt do it in a way I didn't understand, he just simply HASNT SAID IT. So go around holding yourself up as an authority instead if admitting you are wrong, but the truth is known.
@@FullMetalB I’ve read fire and blood, whatever you think is not my concern. You’re making assumptions based on nothing about a stranger online, trying to tell me what I know. Therefore I’m done with this conversation. You’re free to think whatever you want to. I’ve heard his words in his interviews and him talking about the show and books, that’s all the proof I’ll need, my words are based on his words- and it’s also based on the straight logic of one person working on both of those projects with one being from a legitimate pov. I’m disengaging because it’s pointless, you’re steadfast on thinking you’re correct to the point to found my comment again which tells me all I need. ✌🏼
We gotta remember in this time there was no way to save his wife, there they could not get the babe out at all without cutting into Aemma. So she was going to die either way. Either way had the same emotions during that scene was so hard to watch. The actress really sold that scene. And loving your reactions to the show daemon is my love to hate character 🤣🤣
I have to admit that it was your reaction videos to Game of Thrones (which I have still never seen that show) that made me interested in watching House of the Dragon. Which I LOVE - can't wait for season 2. So thanks!
Matt Smith is in this, another Doctor Who actor. The other you’ve seen is David Tennant in Jessica Jones. Both fantastic actors. Basically, you should watch Doctor Who haha
To give context, Dragonstone and King's Landing are only 400 miles apart. King's Landing and Winterfell are 1,460 miles apart. So journeying still takes time. It's just that Dragonstone and King's Landing are close to one another and boats are faster than horses.
Keep in mind that this show it being made of a war in a book that is only so few pages, this first season has a lot of time jumps to prepare and help us understand the war, dance of the dragons
Spoiler alert You know i kind of forgot how she kept begging "viserys please" it's really messed up and the fact that he didn't even tell her , and to think the character of viserys is so beloved despite most conflict resulting from his incompetence, and yes while he had little choice in this birth it's still his fault for obsessing about a boy and ruining Aemma's health by also consummating their marriage when she was still a kid , sure the blame isn't solely on him in that one but still his obsession killed her , it's just really sad , i like viserys and understand why by the end we all feel bad for him but really dude made many choices which led him to that end , he knew he wasn't fit for the throne he could've refused it and let rhaenys take it just like maester Aemon did thus avoiding the cuts that killed him and the mediocre ruling that brought war , he could've been content with having a daughter but he didn't until it killed his wife , i empathize with him but really he brought it on himself which is the tragic part
100% Everyone is a victim of their own uncertainty; they're not innocent they made their bed. I mostly feel bad for the kids tbh. Except Aegon the Elder. Fuck that guy.
Lyonel Strong's actor (Gavin Spokes) did a great job showing him as slow-spoken but impartial and wise in his counsel. In Fire & Blood, his manner of speech makes some at court think he's simple-minded or a brute. However, in his youth, Lyonel Strong was forging his chain at the Citadel to become a maester when his father and older brother died, requiring him to return home to become the Lord of Harrenhal.
Yall are missing the point in the comment section. Yes, Aemma was gonna die either way (allegedly) but telling her what the situation was and giving her a choice for herself which realistically, she would've agreed anyway, is the best possible way. But Viserys took that knowledge away from her and she was mutilated to her death.
ngl, wish this edit would have more of alicent, many of her important scenes were omitted but well, i guess that if i want to see those there's patreon. probably will finish the season on youtube and depending on how that goes i may pay to see it all 🤷🏻♀️ but then again, alicent's scenes being overlooked is a sign that i won't love how her character is perceived 🥲
Important to remember that either they kill the wife and save the baby or let them BOTH die. There is no saving Aemma, she is going to die either way, the choice is to try to save the baby and let your wife die by your hand or let them both die at the hands of the gods. 16:01
The whole 1st season is pretty much just the prologue in the books, thats why the times jumps are so frequent. The 2nd half of the season slows down and will continue that way from now on to follow the book
Corlys actually built his house. He is know as the greatest sailor in Westeros’s history and went on journeys so that when he returned he had made his house richer than even the Lannisters
I understand the frustration with Viserys decision in regards to Aemma and the birth but, as others have said, she would've died no matter what. He's feeling guilty enough about his decision and the outcome as it is, we gotta cut him a little slack here. Not truly his fault
What’s there to understand? The frustration with Viserys is unwarranted. As you said, if he had done nothing Aemma and Balon would have died anyway, at least he tried to save the baby.
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Wife was gonna die no matter what, they do tell us this.
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Very important thing about Aemma's birth: She was going to die no matter what. It was whether or not the child could be saved. Otherwise, they'd both die. It's very tragic.
Yeah a lot of people misinterpret the scene.
I think Nat got that. Her issue was that Viserys just made the choice without telling Aemma what was going to happen. She died confused and scared and in even more pain because he didn't take a moment to talk with her.
I have no idea how so many people miss this lmao
@@Lady_Yunalesca it didn't seem like she got it though 😅 she kept saying that he chose to kill his wife over the baby
@@Lady_Yunalesca you can’t really tell someone they’re going to die in a couple mins and have them be calm and not scared.
Started with: “Fuck you dude”
Ended with: “Daemon’s looking hot, I kinda love it”
And THAT is the duality of Daemon Targaryen. Equal parts dark and light, villain and hero, The Rogue Prince.
Preach ..I laughed out loud when she said fuck you dude.. and internally i was like she wouldn't be saying that at the end..lol
Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains.
-writings of Gyldayn
equal parts dark and light? Maybe a little more towards the dark side. But things will change.
@@AstroSully
Spoilers:
"LEEEEROOOOYYYY..."
-Prince Daemon Targaryen in his moment of redemption, ending it all in a blaze of glory to take out the other big homicidal monster of the war.
@@sherlocksmuuug6692 Yes I know
Matt Smith and Paddy Considine completely own the roles of Daemon and Viserys Targaryen. Some of the best performances I’ve seen in TV all year.
I love that Natalie, who has watched season 1 of Game of Thrones, wishes that the dragons won't die.
To be fair she doesn't remember what happened to the dragons. She thought Aerys had one...
@@AstaraBrightwing not paying attention does that to you
@@AstaraBrightwing not to mention that Robert's Rebellion ends very differently if Aerys had a dragon...
@@AstaraBrightwing I suppose it's since we see Daenerys burn so many people with dragonfire and remember Aerys as his father and then it just jumbles together in people's heads as "Targaryens, dragons, burning people, dragonfire" and then everybody forgets to add wildfire into that equation since in the show the scenes with wildfire are played by Lannisters, so people learn to associate it with them.
People tend to need to watch GoT multiple times before they catch on to all the connections in the storyline, it was very realistically written in that sense.
“He’s crazy… but I kinda love it” is the best way to describe Daemon
It really is! Like I can't be on board with everything he does & the way he does it, but he's easily my favorite character. Anytime he's on screen you know somethings gonna go down lmaoooo
I still can't believe they cast real, live dragons. HBO spared no expense 😂
I heard 3 dragon tamers died during the making of season 1. The union is threatening to hold up production of season 2.
Yeah, if you don’t want to see dragons die … it has nothing to do with the CGI budget.
This comment makes me laugh no matter how many times I see it
CGI dragons are too expensive.
I can't help but think this is a Jurassic Park reference
Just to make you aware, both Dragonstone and Corlys’s home, the Island of Driftmark, are on the far edge of the Blackwater Bay, so it would actually probably be a pretty quick trip. (GRRM said a dragon ride from Dragonstone to King’s Landing would take 4 hours)
Corlys Velarion actually DID build his seat and family's wealth himself. He started sailing at a very young age and had 9 legendary voyages that made him wealthier than any other lord in Westeros, even the Targaryens.
Important to remember that Viserys wife was going to die either way. The choice was whether to give her a more painful death trying to save the baby.
Not sure how so many people missed that detail...
Yeah, it was either losing both the mother and the child or losing the mother but hopefully not the child
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, it’s not like she was gonna live with the dead baby in her stomach.
@@havok6280 fr I don’t know how either. people are just eager to view this show through our current world lens even though westeros isn’t our current world lol.
so much hate on the cis white male... like i dont know much about child birth but if the baby isnt coming naturally its not just going to die in their and be reabsorbed by the mother right? shes dead either way i cant imagine having a corpse rotting inside you would be healthy or is that how it works? fetus starts to rot making it easier to pass?
Caraxes Daemon's dragon is my favorite. Fun facts: he's deformed, that's why he looks like a danger noodle, he has a deviated septum and so he can't roar properly that's why he squeals high pitched as much as he does and his jaw is crooked. Other dragons don't really like him except for Syrax Rhaenyra's dragon. Also dragon's can feel their riders emotions, like when Daemon was shot Caraxes freaked out, and when Syrax showed up Caraxes was happy
I haven't read the book but thought he looked weird and wrong from the start.Thanks for the info!
Are you a fellow Mapo fan or is the choice to describe Caraxes as a danger noodle a coincidence
@@FunnyGuy93 I just thought when he flies and stuff he looks like a noodle lol
yesss caraxes is the most interesting to me. looks a bit like mushu from mulan lol. im glad they're making each dragon different and unique, it's great
Possibly more firewyrm genes than wyvern in Caraxes, but the genetic yatzee wasn't detrimental to functionality, so he survived and grew. The deformities of the dragon hatchlings seem to mirror the deformities of the dragon babies; pale and blind seems to be a common theme.
Good thing to keep in mind Natalie, the whole of season 1 is like 60 pages of the book. There's multiple huge time skips in this to get the ball rolling.
Exactly, from the opening scene to the end of E10 nearly 30 years pass. Some people had issues with major characters being recast; I personally didn't, but I am a book reader. I get where that would be jarring. IMO the periods skipped by the time jumps didn't have any major events, just some character development and relationship evolution that was not crucial to show. As viewers we missed out on getting acquainted with several interesting characters, but none of them have direct impact on the upcoming civil war.
The thing about Corlys Velaryon: He actually did built up his house. The current castle of House Velaryon, High Tide, was built with the wealth he created by doing nine great voyages to the east of the world.
Viserys didn't really have an option. The Maester basically said we can attempt to save the child or else risk losing both. The birth scenes are so heavy in this series, arguably a bit too much by the end in my opinion. It definitely portrays childbirth especially before modern science as gruelling and the womans 'battlefield' as stated by Queen Aemma.
He still had the option of asking for her consent, or let her make the choice herself, even if it wasn't really a thing for women in this universe (or in our past).
@@floaltea You don't think she would've chosen to try to save the baby too? She would've made the same choice, but yeah I got no clue why he wouldn't warn her beforehand at least
@@floaltea consent within a marriage wasn't a thing in our world until the 1970s. It still isn't in countries like Saudi Arabia. It isn't reasonable to expect it in a fantasy medieval world.
@@floaltea Of course, but he was stuck trying to keep the peace of the Realm. No male heir means war, but then he is haunted by the fact that not only did he torture his wife for the good of the realm, but it was for nothing.
@@applegeepedigree yeah, so much for the place of the realm ^^ This show is such a Greek tragedy, I love it
Milly Alcock and Emily Carey killed it as the younger counterparts of Rhaneyra and Alicent. I hope they both go on to do huge things.
If you like Milly Alcock in this, you should watch Upright with her, and Tim Minchin. It's brilliant.
I love her perception of what the show will be at the beginning of this, that there will be no other sons and Rhaenerys and Daemon will be fighting each other. Can’t wait to watch everything evolve!
This show has brought me back into the Song of Ice and Fire universe. I was so done after Game of Thrones and was fully prepared to never look back, but this has reignited my love.
I was the same. It was the cast that made me interested and I'm glad that I've started watching.
You’re definitely not alone, D and D rushed seasons 7 and 8 and it can be easily argued that the quality dropped when the books ran out after season 4 despite a few shining moments in season 6. This show had the best of GOT with Miguel and a true ASOIAF fan in Condal aswellas a finished story. No wonder it’s better quality so far aswell as a larger budget!
@@joepagram8287 Oh please, many haters were going to allegedly boycott HBO after the finale and then mocked HOTD for being "woke". D&D did not ruin anything and GOT last seasons increase in ratings are proof of that. HOTD showrunners defend D&D, and it will be the best fantasy tv show just like GOT.
@@ianvera4299 so because you disagree with my opinion that’s fine it why I used the word ‘arguably’. Furthermore I never said people weren’t trying to boycott HoD. your allowed your opinion as much as I am allowed mine.
@@joepagram8287 Your allowed your own shitty opinion, sure.
27:57 FYI Dragonstone and King's Landing are super close together, travel between the two is hardly an issue
Nats transition from hating Damon to liking him was so Seamless 🤣🤣🤣
The amount of season 8 ptsd in your voice in the first ten minutes of this video is great 😂😂
Yes! 😂
"Poor Alicent was just told to come here and do this and now she's gonna be pinned as like this manipulative woman" and considering the *King* himself told her to keep quiet about it...... yeah. Mind you he didn't consult her before the announcement, she kept trying to mend the relationship for *years* and she's the one who insisted Rhaenyra has a say in who she ends up marrying. I'm just hoping you'll keep all of this in mind i guess
I was so glad to hear it but I wonder how Nat’s view has changed later into the season 🤞🏻
@@anais6654 I think she was trying to be a good daughter, a good subject to the king and a good friend after that if she could, as she was raised this way. You can’t expect 15 years old girl from this kind of upbringing to go against it without any support, and Rhaenyra is not a female rights fighter who would lend her this kind of support IMO
@@anais6654 even if the King never told her to keep it quiet do you genuinely believe her dad would've let it slide? she was obviously not supposed to go around talking about how she's the one being sent/called into his chambers
@@anastatina8717 I'm not feeling too good about it 😭 but one can hope
I've been PATIENTLY waiting for this one. Thank you Nat!!!!
2X 😉
The decision was between both dying or the baby surviving and Aemma dying, if they just left it as is the baby would just never get out.
It amazes me how many people missed that detail...
That's not the point though . . . it's not Viserys' choice to make.
@@adamgreyjoy8333 there was no choice. He could have "left it up to the gods" and both would still die. For Aemma it would have been long and agonizing.
I think the point is they should ask Aemma, not just Viserys
@@adamgreyjoy8333 There's not really much of a choice. You either attempt to save the baby or they both die. Viserys not telling her exactly what's happening is a choice that can be debated but I think that was just him not having it in him to tell her that she was about to die.
Also the imagery of both Daemon and Rhaenyra being covered in blood the last episode was fantastic.
there's this joke that they started training ravens to deliver messages because Daemon beat the pants off the guy who delivered he message 😅
Bit late to the party but your remark about the king being cut by the Iron Throne: there's a superstition in Westeros that if you are not worthy of the throne, you will cut yourself on it.
It's a dumb superstition though. Far as we know neither Joffrey nor Robert were ever cut by the throne and Viserys was a much better king then either of them.
Daemon loves his family entirely, but his ambition rises above that. He’s one of the greatest written characters honestly- totally morally gray.
Three kills in the 3rd episode, Rhaenyra needing to kill something coming at her to prove her worth as does Daemon except he went after the kill, and then Viserys who doesn’t want to but needs to for status, something that’s was caught for him.
Viserys really fumbled the bag with naming rhaenyra heir, he did not keep the realm in mind but more so did it out of fear
Disagree. It isn't ambition that drives Daemon. More than anything he wants Viserys's love and respect.
@@havok6280 you have a right to disagree. Spoiler*****
But he would rather die than see anyone other than his immediate bloodline on the throne (why he acts the way he does towards Rhaenyra later on, wanting war with the Greens) that’s not due to wanting love- daemons entire character is driven by legacy, even the stepstones- instead of taking his brothers help and build a bond with love he hates it, directly contradicting your statement. While yes he does love his brother and wants his attention, that is totally not the drive of his character at all, it’s legacy. My opinion on it from everything we know. Now when he’s young he wants to be recognized, he doesn’t want to be heir really as we see later - but in the end it’s always ambition and legacy that are at the top of his list
@@LS13. I agree with everything u said to some extent, but
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After the large time jump he clearly wanted to just stay in pentos and live a happy life with his family, proving at the end of the day that is perhaps his biggest motivation. I feel as tho he acts the way u described later on because he is a strong willed person and wants to ensure that his family receives what they are owed - otherwise they would be seen as weak which he is not. Plus daemon just really hates the hightowers because otto was taking advantage of his brother for years - again he cares about his family. So while he is motivated in part by legacy and pride, it is family that is at the center of his decisions
I'm beginning to hate the term "morally grey" as a way to avoid talking about how much of a POS Daemon actually is.
Morally gray? Lmao. Just because someone can love while doing horrible psycho shit doesn't mean they are gray. I like him as a character too, but he's evil and psycho as they come. Spoilers*** He kills his wife, he (kind of) has incest sex with a minor, murders people in kings landing. commit war crimes... etc. I'll say this though: He's not as bad as some people in GoT though. He has some redeeming qualities but hey, so did hitler...
I love how even after watching the entirety of GoT, you're still hopeful for anyone's survival. Takes a big heart for that
time jumps and incest is literally what this show is about though haha love your energy and emotions!! so looking forward to part two of this
Emotions are fine, but she's sadly overly histrionic.
„He is not gonna die in a hunt, is he?“ *laughs in Robert Baratheon*
Viserys will grow on you. He’s a good king. I’m so excited to see your reaction to the rest of the episode, Nat! And your hair looks beautiful!
he’s a good man and father, but a flawed king.
@@ganjasayjuh I don’t even know if I’d say good father. Don’t get me wrong, he clearly loves Rhaenyra, and I think he absolutely could have been a good father if he hadn’t been the king. But the pressure of ruling and the manipulation from his small council turned him into a pretty neglectful father.
@@JNDReacts yeah i understand what you’re saying. he neglected her, which probably wasn’t as bad before aemma’s death. what really sold him to me though was allowing her the choice to who she would marry, until it became clear that she was incapable of acting for herself.
that’s interesting, though. he wasn’t the best father but he had undying love.
@@ganjasayjuh Yeah, when you put it that way I guess he was pretty good by their world’s standards.
He's an absolutely awful king. He's not really even that great of a person, but at least a better person than most other characters.
Watching you fall in love with Daemon was so funny. Welcome to the club!
Mysaria understands High Valyrian, although we don't know exactly where she comes from, she's from Essos and probably from the old Valyrian Freehold, so she has notions of Valyrian and knew what they were talking about. In the books, she comes from Lys and has the valyrian look, with blond hair and pale skin.
Old valyra free hold is gone she learned it from one of the other fee cities because they speak the language.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 That's why I said "old". It's gone but the free cities that were part of it still remain.
@@goldenclaw_ you said she was from the old valyeren free hold itself which we both know is impossible you should have just said from one of the free cities.
@@thatoneblackdude3333 Are you like a cop of perfectly accurate statements? Still, what I said is valid, it was to emphasize the fact that she comes from a place where they used to be under the influence of Valyria. And by your logic we shouldn't say Targaryens are from Old Valyria since it does not exist anymore. Hint : that's why we say "Old".
@@goldenclaw_ bro all I was saying is you could have been more specific calm down
finally! i've been waiting for this since the series dropped. can't wait to see your reactions, hope you love it
I think the maester made it pretty clear that Aemma wasn't going to survive that birth. The choice was save the baby or save neither. Great video though.
"He's crazy but I kinda love it" And thus begins the tale of the Rogue Prince fandom
Viserys: marries his daughter's best friend
Nat: he's a good dad 😄
It’s… complicated
he made some mistakes but no question he loved his daughter and wanted her to succeed him
Well otherwise he would have marry 11 year girl
And rhenerya accept that 🤮
I thing maybe viserys is a good dad
But rhenerya is not good daughter
Yeah...... What an asshole. He chose a woman that his family is already very fond of. Rather than marry a twelve-year-old. Hes a monster 😐
Vizzy T was honestly one of the best dads in the show. All he wanted was for his family to get along. He was a good man, but a weak King. Somehow that's always the case in asoiaf.
Oh my days watching these reactions makes me miss Viserys even more. Paddy absolutely killed it
And then... tears.
100% tuned into this one, loved the game of thrones reactions and that’s actually how I discovered the channel!
As a reminder, Daemon loves his family, like he’d kill anyone that threatened them. He still feels like he needs to show his worth and that he doesn’t need peoples help. Daemon has ups and down but you’re never not cheering for him!
People tend to forget the fact that the queen was already having bad pregnancies and wanted to stop, but was pressured into having them in order to produce a male heir.
That was her duty.
@@marlonm.255 That sounds cruel but sadly I have to agree
That's the duty of a queen, the price of their opulent and privileged lives. If she wasn't willing to do that then she could have abdicated her position as queen and had their marriage annulled so that the King could marry someone else.
@@TheRealRightPrice I do agree that the marriage was shit.
@@TheRealRightPricethere's no way for her to annul the marriage, think for a bit)
This show is pure gold, in every sense of the word. I can’t wait to see your reaction to the other episodes!!!
I know you probably won’t read this but there is in fact a metaphor for Viserys cutting himself on the throne Aegon the Conqueror, the man who built it, intended for it to be uncomfortable to sit on because as he said “A king should never sit easy” and someone who cuts themself on it is considered to be unworthy to rule
before the c-section, i believe maester mellos tells viserys that aemma is going to die no matter what, or at least implies it, if that eases things at all.
At long last! This show has been incredible, but I also never lost my love for GoT so I was still on the hype train. I can't wait 2 years for season 2!
29:49 she might know their language; if she’s from the free city of Lys, she would know a dialect of High Valyrian, since the city was part of the Valyrian Freehold before the Doom.
Can confirm. The Free Cities speak Valyrian (not High Valyrian though). The dialect was nicknamed Bastard Valyrian. Point being, she 100% knew what they were saying.
The "let me at 'em" by Ridley made me actually laugh out loud, love his sweet computery voice
Considering where the seasons ends these first episodes already feel pretty nostalgic.
I was sooo not excited for this show when it was released. But after watching it I'm back into watching GoT lore videos/theories on what will happen in the books.. This show has more promise since its far less complicated than the ASOIAF series.. So I think we'll continue to get an amazing season 2/3
Natalie @ 15:19 "I just don't wanna see any more death"
HBO: and Samwell Tarly just wanted to be a wizard.
For anyone who's confused about how fast they travel back and forth between Dragonstone and Kingslanding, Dragonstone is relatively close to Kingslanding, on Dragon back is less then a day.
about the boar thing: Rhaenyra sad that she hates the sound of dying boars, its reminds here of the sound of crying childeren. I think here stabbing the boar over and over again symbols her hating the fact she has now a little brother, and that child is in her brain replacing her.
Viserys being cut on the iron throne means that the throne is rejecting him.
Here I sit, listening to you talking about the trailer, and the possible plot lines, and the characters you like or dislike… And my reoccurring thought is… Oh, Nat, you’ve no idea) I won’t spoil anything, but trust me, this season and its characters will surprise so, so many times.
Are we going to talk about her hair?
You look GORGEOUS!! I love the look! I hope you have a good day nat!
Your opening ad spots have increasingly had the production and writing value of a Hallmark original. I actually look forward to your next sponsorships!
Natalie looks amazing with the straightened hair and bangs. Great look.
One thing they said is that the queen would die either way. They could either try to get the baby out or just let it happen naturally but either way she was going to die. So Sad
This discussion has raged in the comments of every single episode reaction to the show. Surprisingly, there are some very staunch "viserys is the worst person in history" people.
Viserys making every single wrong decision for what he deems as the "moral" decision in this fucked up world is soooo good. They lay it out so well what a character
When he told her to go choose a match /mate one that suits her as he did, he wasn't talking about Alicent , he was talking about her mother, he chose her mother that wasn't arranged at all regardless of what Viserys did to Rhaenyra's mother. He honestly did love her with all his heart, and what he did haunts him immensely.
Wow i love your hair in this style your look gorgeous with it!! Also I only just started watching your vids 2 days ago but I’m exactly like you when watching so I think it would be a total blast watching shows with you!!
This season is so good
Dragonstone and Kings Landing are right next to each other. Not GoT teleportation just yet. lol
IMPORTANT: Aemma was going to die no matter what!! It was either try and save the baby and basically kill the wife in the process, or let the baby kill her and quite possibly itself. Viserys made the right call, imo. Might as well try and save one than let them both die
Most people gets Visery's choice wrong, so I like to point it out: Saving Aemma wasn't an option. The maester said it clearly: "sacrifice one, or lose them both." Aemma was going to die regardless of his choice, if anything he could've chosen to "leave it to the gods" and maybe make it so she didn't suffer with milk of the poppy, but lose the child along with her anyway. Sadly, they don't have the means to extract the baby without hurting the mother and causing death by loss of blood.
This show is amazing. Can’t wait for the future parts!
"Daemon be crazy... I kind of like him, tho." Talk about accurately summing up the complex feelings of EVERYONE
lets goo queen, been waiting on this one ❤
Heyyyy! Quick thing firsthand - the books are not a novel but a history book based on random povs so they aren’t as accurate
You can pretend I don't understand all you want. YOU can't point to him saying the show confirms what is true in fire and blood, because he didn't say it. You can't even say I didn't understand him, because you can't even point to what he said.
It sounds like you learned that fire and blood has an unreliable narrator and now you are just parroting it without having read it. I've already made it clear I understand what fire and blood is. The book having an unreliable narrator DOES NOT mean the show is clarifying what is true to the book universe. It just isn't. What the show depicts says nothing about what may have actually happened in the book.
And George has NEVER suggested that the show does that. He didnt do it in a way I didn't understand, he just simply HASNT SAID IT. So go around holding yourself up as an authority instead if admitting you are wrong, but the truth is known.
there are no POVs in fire and blood. only archmaester gyldayn reading reports of events. show isn't the "accurate" one either. different story.
@@FullMetalB I’ve read fire and blood, whatever you think is not my concern. You’re making assumptions based on nothing about a stranger online, trying to tell me what I know. Therefore I’m done with this conversation. You’re free to think whatever you want to. I’ve heard his words in his interviews and him talking about the show and books, that’s all the proof I’ll need, my words are based on his words- and it’s also based on the straight logic of one person working on both of those projects with one being from a legitimate pov. I’m disengaging because it’s pointless, you’re steadfast on thinking you’re correct to the point to found my comment again which tells me all I need. ✌🏼
@@storyofm6820 he’s reading the reports based on peoples povs. Your opinion is yours, you’re free to have it.
@@LS13. Deleting your comment and reposting it cause you can't prove your information speaks volumes.
We gotta remember in this time there was no way to save his wife, there they could not get the babe out at all without cutting into Aemma. So she was going to die either way.
Either way had the same emotions during that scene was so hard to watch. The actress really sold that scene. And loving your reactions to the show daemon is my love to hate character 🤣🤣
King's Landing and Dragonstone are next to each other. You can get really quickly on a ship, and it's almost no travel time on a dragon.
I'm looking forward to this. Some crazy shit happens in this show.
I have to admit that it was your reaction videos to Game of Thrones (which I have still never seen that show) that made me interested in watching House of the Dragon. Which I LOVE - can't wait for season 2. So thanks!
10 minutest of her ranting about saving the wife even though that was never an option, and we were straight up told that by the maester.
"He's crazy, but I kinda love it" is the best descritpion for Daemon 😂
Literally every single fan who’s finished the series: “wait for it Natalie”
Matt Smith is in this, another Doctor Who actor. The other you’ve seen is David Tennant in Jessica Jones.
Both fantastic actors.
Basically, you should watch Doctor Who haha
12:05
"Tongues will not change the succession, let them wag"
Love it
To give context, Dragonstone and King's Landing are only 400 miles apart. King's Landing and Winterfell are 1,460 miles apart. So journeying still takes time. It's just that Dragonstone and King's Landing are close to one another and boats are faster than horses.
“Sacrifice one or lose them both”
Did she not hear that
Both Christopher Eccleston and Matt Smith are two of My favourite Doctors on Doctor Who
Nat will go from loving some characters to hating them and also hating characters to loving them lol
Im so glad you’re doing this series! It moved me emotionally!
This show has no right being this good, but somehow it is!
So excited you're watching this show, the first season was simply amazing, can't wait for season 2!
Keep in mind that this show it being made of a war in a book that is only so few pages, this first season has a lot of time jumps to prepare and help us understand the war, dance of the dragons
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You know i kind of forgot how she kept begging "viserys please" it's really messed up and the fact that he didn't even tell her , and to think the character of viserys is so beloved despite most conflict resulting from his incompetence, and yes while he had little choice in this birth it's still his fault for obsessing about a boy and ruining Aemma's health by also consummating their marriage when she was still a kid , sure the blame isn't solely on him in that one but still his obsession killed her , it's just really sad , i like viserys and understand why by the end we all feel bad for him but really dude made many choices which led him to that end , he knew he wasn't fit for the throne he could've refused it and let rhaenys take it just like maester Aemon did thus avoiding the cuts that killed him and the mediocre ruling that brought war , he could've been content with having a daughter but he didn't until it killed his wife , i empathize with him but really he brought it on himself which is the tragic part
100% Everyone is a victim of their own uncertainty; they're not innocent they made their bed. I mostly feel bad for the kids tbh. Except Aegon the Elder. Fuck that guy.
Lyonel Strong's actor (Gavin Spokes) did a great job showing him as slow-spoken but impartial and wise in his counsel.
In Fire & Blood, his manner of speech makes some at court think he's simple-minded or a brute.
However, in his youth, Lyonel Strong was forging his chain at the Citadel to become a maester when his father and older brother died, requiring him to return home to become the Lord of Harrenhal.
Yall are missing the point in the comment section. Yes, Aemma was gonna die either way (allegedly) but telling her what the situation was and giving her a choice for herself which realistically, she would've agreed anyway, is the best possible way. But Viserys took that knowledge away from her and she was mutilated to her death.
ngl, wish this edit would have more of alicent, many of her important scenes were omitted but well, i guess that if i want to see those there's patreon. probably will finish the season on youtube and depending on how that goes i may pay to see it all 🤷🏻♀️
but then again, alicent's scenes being overlooked is a sign that i won't love how her character is perceived 🥲
Natalie didn't seem to catch on that it was either try to save the baby or loose them both.
Woke feminists aren’t known for their grasp of reality.
How i missed the Game of Thrones theme played on a recorder. Love it!
Important to remember that either they kill the wife and save the baby or let them BOTH die. There is no saving Aemma, she is going to die either way, the choice is to try to save the baby and let your wife die by your hand or let them both die at the hands of the gods. 16:01
The whole 1st season is pretty much just the prologue in the books, thats why the times jumps are so frequent. The 2nd half of the season slows down and will continue that way from now on to follow the book
Dragonstone is not very far from King's Landing, just saying.
Corlys actually built his house. He is know as the greatest sailor in Westeros’s history and went on journeys so that when he returned he had made his house richer than even the Lannisters
I understand the frustration with Viserys decision in regards to Aemma and the birth but, as others have said, she would've died no matter what. He's feeling guilty enough about his decision and the outcome as it is, we gotta cut him a little slack here. Not truly his fault
What’s there to understand? The frustration with Viserys is unwarranted. As you said, if he had done nothing Aemma and Balon would have died anyway, at least he tried to save the baby.
As someone who’s watching season 2 having forgotten EVERYTHING, this is going to be great😼😼😼
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You can always tell when Natalie is emotionally invested in something when she starts adding "UH!" to the end of her sentences.
Rhaenyra returning to camp is definitely 10-20 seconds you should've kept in there.