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Mercedes-Benz Citan Tourer - Kangoo With an A Class Face (ENG) - Test Drive and Review
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- Mercedes-Benz Citan is a compact van based on the Renault Kangoo. Another sibling is the Nissan Townstar. At launch the Citan is available as the Panel Van and the people carrier called the Tourer. Later we will also see the Mixto with a 5-passenger cab and separated cargo space, as well as a long-wheel base version. Mercedes also announced the T Class, which will be a luxury version of the Citan, as well as the eCitan and EQT electric vans.
All this is badge engineering, but the front vaguely resembles the A Class, and rear lamps look like from the V Class. Everything in the middle is a generic compact van optimised for cargo space.
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↔ Mercedes-Benz Citan Tourer dimensions:
✔ length: 4498 mm
✔ width: 1859 mm
✔ height: 1811 mm
✔ wheelbase: 2716 mm
✔ boot/trunk: 517-2390 L
💲 Mercedes-Benz Citan Tourer starting price: 18 890 euro net
💲 Mercedes-Benz Citan 113 Tourer price as tested: 30 000 euro net
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Index
0:00 intro
0:30 what is the Citan?
1:10 design
1:20 boot
2:20 rear seat
4:40 cockpit
6:40 engine lineup
7:20 performance
7:50 driving impressions
9:35 pricing
10:00 conclusion
@MarekDrivesENG
I like your review and I consider it really useful.
THX for your effort and professionalism.
I spent three weeks wandering around Zagreb/Croatia all middle class (Skoda, Peugeot, Citroen, Hyundai, Kia, Nissan, Renault, Dacia, Suzuki) car saloon's with SUV and checked literally every single car that could even (at least) close fulfill the needs of my family.
At the end, Renault/Dacia salesman concluded we should look a Kangoo.
It turned out THE ONLY Kangoo has almost all specs we wanted, but among them, at least it has all crucial (safety) specs.
And then, when I decided to compare Kangoo with its more expensive "twins" Nissan Townstar and Mercedes Citan (as I did with Toyota Proace City Verso, Opel Combo, Peugeot Rifter and Citroen Berlingo) I saw this video.
Because of the author's comment about the driver's position after folding the second seat row, I went again to the Renault saloon.
Situation with the driver's seat position IS NOT even near so dramatically bad, as the author resented by leaning forward, off the seat back and hugging the steering wheel.
Nobody is hugging the steering wheel like that when driving.
It is true, if you fold the second row of seats, you lose some driver space, and that is an ergonomic and even more a safety !!! flaw (because of airbag), but not as near as presented, particularly for the 175 cm tall person (leaned back with extended hands).
OK, the belly, as standard equipment of professional drivers, could be a problem, but you can work on that...😉
For my driving position (long legs) full folding of the second row takes 2-3 clicks of the seat slider, but if I remove headrests, as I always had to in my present car - Peugeot 307, I lose 1-2 clicks = 5 cm.
And, for me, that is really acceptable (a small) compromise.
I agree, for a transport car like this, for a 2 000 km trip, everybody would like the driver's position to remain the same.
But for a few hundred kilometers trip a few times a year, or for some home appliance delivery (10-20 km) it is a compromise everybody must accept.
There is a long version of Kangoo/Citan/Townstar, and I really hope that issue is not present in it, because of the longer front-rear wheel base/distance.
If you really need a more often, or daily use of the car with folded second row of seats, maybe you should buy a N1 = cargo version of this car or take the second row of seats out.
This is a passenger version of this model, with ability of folding second row seats from time to time.
IMHO, this car is intended for three kids families with two still in isofix seats, or company five adults daily commuting car with versatile options of occasional transport of larger loads that demands second seat row folding.
I choosed Kangoo instead Citan.
Even I drowe Peugeot 307 20 years (165 000 km), I don't expect I'll drive this one that long.
In a five-seven years we will see what will be actual.
Mercedes has 40 000 km service interval (Kangoo 15 000 AFAIK), but for both of them it is recommended to cut it in half, and If I'd drive that much (taxi driver or bussiness long distance transport car), I'd consider Citan, but for small mileage, and not so sure future, I think it is smart to choose cheaper option, with almost the same properties.
Mercedes seems to have nicer infotainment and steering wheel controls. It is quieter and better for drive (softer).
Kangoo has lower price, probably cheaper parts, annual service, insurance etc. a bit lower fuel consumption and LED front light.
I lost some weight since then :) I'll give it another try after facelift, but to me it's an unacceptable compromise in what essentially should be designed with versatility in mind.
I watched five different review videos of this car in German language and all I got was loads of clean promo text. This video was more helpful than 2+ hours of German "car influencer" smalltalk. Thanks alot!
And yes, I like the car and am looking forward to buy it (despite the flat loading area failure).
I had an opel combo tour 1,25 diesel , 5 seat, automatic gearbox, and I loved how clever are the back seats when I want them down! I really loved that car and yes, I still can't find a new simillar to it
LOL. Who needs a place on the door for a water bottle when you have room above your head? And who wouldn't love sitting so close to the steering wheel? Just don't think about what might happen to your face if the airbag goes off.... Thumbs up for the "air" steering meme!! Marek, always good for a laugh and a honest review!
Another nice review. I don’t need the space, but it seems to be a nice car to me.
This Citan reeks of Renault.
At least it has approachable prices if you are a diehard Mercedes fan...
Thank you for a good review!
Would you buy such an ugly car even if you were a die hard Mercedes fan? There are limits 😂 If you don't mind every car enthusiast vomit in his mouth when you drive by...
@@Dani-it5sywould buy the Mercedes one to piss people off or buy me a Lexus RCF
Scathing but we need to know these truths 👏
Hi marek can you do a review on the 2022 renault austral when you can please thanks Lee. And keep doing your brilliant reviews mate
Once it gets here, I'm sure I'm going to review it. For now it was only shown to the public, so I don't expect a driving launch event before summer, and press cars will probably arrive late autumn (if at all in 2022).
I am trying to replace my 2016 Berlingo but none of the competition succeded to launch better vehicle. If only Skoda would give it a go and make Cady “simply cleverer”. Now that would be an interesting option.
kangoo and new berlingo are great
I'm currently test driving the LWB Combo e (which is basically a Berlingo), and as spartan as it feels, the party tricks (flat seats, easy to remove 3rd row, folding front passenger seat) work perfectly.
Skoda should bring back the roomster
Perfect family car! Just have to wait for the automatic ♥
Really?
You have very low standards for perfection.
@@numbereightyseven Can be true. But I still have a budget so. I love the colour plus the fact its Mercedes.
Why is no one reacting on the horrible design of this little brother of the Fiat Multipla? Has everyone lost his mind nowadays?
Mate.. The looks.... 😨 If I was a Mercedes fan I would be so insulted I would switch brands.
3:05 😂 That's so typical french. That happened so often with my old Peugeot's.
the body styling looks so nice. its like a cla van version
I hope this is sarcasm.. It is literally the small brother of the Fiat Multipla 😂
no no no just use your hand cover everything above the headlights lol looks like cla @@Dani-it5sy
Marek between kangoo ,citan, berlingo and proace city (5 seat) as matter of reliability ...
Hello Marek_Drives,its informative your detai analysis of Mercedes Benz Citan ,I will start by saying I WOULD DRIVE THAT CITAN CLOSE TO THE STEERING IF BACK SEATS ARE FOLDED. I prefer it over thr Renault Kangoo and Citron whatever. I love Mercedes Benz products so much.
If you ever reviewed Mercedes ALL TERRAIN in English, please send me the link,because most of the ones I watched are either German or French language -Rufai
Will be interested in the EV version
Regarding flat folding seats... my wife's Macan and sister's Merc GLA suffer the same "can't fold the seats without pushing the front seats forward" flaw. I think it's common.
Top part of the front seat is often thicker, and then there's the headrest on the seat you're folding. Sliding front to fold is OK, if you can slide them back to your driving position.
They should have used the Dubble Flore like the Vaneo has and removebal rearseats
I have Berlingo 2001 who has same isues with folded seats. I did my calculations of how many times I use folded seats and on what distances. At the moment I'm expecting new Citan to arrive.
So, how often do you fold the seats?
@@MarekDrivesENG 15 times a year 40 km distance. For more I woud take furgon
I show German Shepherds and travel all over the United States.
If this was available I would definitely consider it.
I imagine it would be easier for the dogs to get in the back, than into an SUV. Do you use a ramp?
BTW, in the US you should have the Ford Transit Connect. Check it out.
www.ford.com/trucks/transit-connect-passenger-van-wagon/?gnav=header-trucks-vhp
When are going to see a review of the new Ford Tourneo Connect?
I don't know, because Ford is still not talking to me.
@@MarekDrivesENG, how about the new shaped VW Caddy that the Connect is based on. Or say to Ford its for the disabled drivers in the UK as it is a very popular car.
@rojouk I have to deal with Ford in Poland, and they don't give a toss about my English channel. As for the VW Caddy, I have a review here: ruclips.net/video/uJGxdRiNjtI/видео.html
Grossly overpriced for what it offers IMO. I'm currently driving the Combo e (Berlingo/Rifter/Toyotasomething), and despite the interior being cheap as they come, everything that's functionality related works perfect. The range is crap, but that's a different story.
@@MarekDrivesENG Thank you from the UK. Keep up the great work.....
@MarekDrivesENG
Please don't tell me it is OK for you to stretch that much to reach the infotainment or A/C controls in Toyota Proace City Verso.
You are shorter than me (I'm 183 cm), and to me it is too far, farther than in any other car I tried.
Above all, don't tell anybody it is OK to place a door opening lever/handle behind the knee. When I wanted to get out of the Toyota, and realised I had to move inward my leg/knee to open the door, I went out of that car and never looked back.
What a moron designed that (part of the) car!?
How to "Dutch open" the driver's door? Right hand behind the left knee, and a proper hit in the steering wheel with the right ear?
BTW, the position of the right leg is too upward, and the knee outer bones are touching/leaning on the central ridge.
It become really painful after a very short time, and it seems to me as pure masochism to drive this car.
I wouldn't drive it even as a gift.
I'd rather put it on sale or give it to the enemy.
Actually I don't know why Mercedes persisted (persists) in its collabs with Renault, the latter is just making the former look bad. Where I come from people avoid the 1.3-litre versions of the GLA and B (which has a waiting list well into Q3 2022!) the moment they know it's a Renault-developed engine.
The previous gen Citan's interior was an example in how to pay for the Mercedes badge and get next to nothing...
wow. so many Dacia parts inside..... like the engine, heater controls
but shhhh, don't tell the Mercedes owners.
I'm sure they hear if often enough :)
@@MarekDrivesENG I upset one Mercedes owner last week when he popped his bonnet to show me the 1.3L 150 TCE engine. then I opened the Duster bonnet and said 'snap'. he wasn't impressed
It really does look like a Kangoo, and very surprised it's a manual as Merc hardly do them anymore. I hate that large infotainment bezel Merc do, why? It's hideous.
Well a class us manual
Looks more like the B class tbh
Don't all laugh at once but I wonder how this compares to the Dacia Jogger.
The Jogger is more of a budget Scenic competitor, isn't it? The Kangoo/Citan/Townstar is a box to carry stuff, and some people.
The most democratic Mercedes.
I don't understand polish language, that's why I unsubscribed that channel of yours.
Lots of love from India 🇮🇳
... and your point is ... what?
That van seams ancient 4122 vehicle.
Come on Mercedes-Benz you can do better with the safety features you have on your other products
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The only quality product that I saw in this vid, was during the Hyundai advert in the middle. Unfortunately there's no limit to how stupid people can be, so this will sell
How do they manage to take a Renault, then make it 10 times more ugly, stick a 3 pointed star on it and offer it to the public? And which morons buy this crap? Unbelievable. If my boss would give me this for a company car I would get sad every time I had to get into it.
What company car do you want?
@@zaandam0172 It depends. If my boss is paying I'd go for a Transporter or Vito. If it was me that had to pay I'd check if there was money to save by going for a Transit Custom. Nice van that. If you need a smaler van like the one in the video I'd say a Peugeot Partner is a really good option. A lot better than this disgraceful display of unprofessionalisme from Mercedes. Serious mate. For example, besides the hideous looks, with the rear seats folded down I can not drive this car. The front seat needs to be so far forward I can't fit behind the wheel. At least not longer than 2 minutes. WHY? 🤯 It is total garbage.
Es patético lo que haces con el asiento y el volante… ¿por qué no pones el volante mas lejos en lugar de pegarlo? Se nota que tienes el volante estirado!
Tenía el asiento ajustado a mi posición de conducción. Empujar el volante hacia adelante no necesariamente hará que mi posición de conducción sea correcta, porque no tenía espacio para las piernas.