You should add another section to the valve so it pulls and pushes the piston. Basically turn it into a single stroke engine, which is how steam engines work in real life (there are probably some exceptions, though)
@@GamingGenius777 I actually planned on doing that, but the piston design wouldn't let me do it the way I wanted. I'll most likely make another that is a double action
@@pilotbug6100 That doesn't make sense, and what does that have to do with the valve gear? Maybe you confused it with single and double acting. Most steam engines are double-acting (single stroke) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-_and_double-acting_cylinders#Steam_engines
I'd say make a double acting one instead. Here you're putting a lot of pressure on the valve, because it's closed for half the revolution of the flywheel, give or take, but a double acting one is only closed very shortly, and it's more efficient. Great work though, I'm impressed with what you achieved here.
Not for me, I'm trying to make things that are 100% LEGO. I don't want to have to use anything like sealants or lubricants. And besides, I'm not going for performance, I just like to build these 😊
I'm pretty sure if you got it to run for long enough the friction that would cause so much heat to build up that you would fuse the bricks and plates together.
Well, yes, but you're talking about multiple thousands of rpms for long periods of time. This one probably only has a maximum of 1500, maybe. So that's not really a concern
Was building a similar System but using the Pistons and valves from pneumatic Sets. Perfectly timed, I was also able to build a twi piston Engine. Unfortunately I don't habe the parts anymore. Funfact to this, due to missing air compressors, I built my own from Lego Pistons and a Motor too. [no free energy!!!]
I watched your hand in the beginning, when the nozzle was more centred in the gap it shot off the bricks, but when the compressor nozzle was pointing more towards the wheel then it worked. Might have been a parallax error but that’s my observation. As of now I’m yet to see the rest of the video lol
For holding stuff together, I'd say just use more technic pieces. I often see those get used just to really force creations to stay together, rather than fall apart because of basic brick-in-brick connections.
That's the thing with steam engines like that, they were meant to be run with high torque, not quickly. Actually, one type of that steam mechanism was known to actually shake itself to death at high speeds.
You should make a double-acting cylinder like a real steam engine. You won't have to jump start it. The trickiest thing to deal with is going to be the "gland" where the piston rod exits the block, as a cross-axle will leak terribly, you want a smooth sided axle for the job.
you should make a reverse direction engine ive made one with pneumatics in past instead of the 90 degree offset i did 0 degrees tubes done like normal i like your design here its well done and compact
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO what I mean is to make it self sustainable instead of using an air pump or vacuum. Also, if you want to do it, use metal Lego, as normal Lego would be near melting.
@@thewafflegamer6152 "metal LEGO" only has gears and axles. Also, the amount of pressure required to run this thing means a small boiler wouldn't run this for very long, a second or two max
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO whelp, I guess I will wait till such product is released, even if the final product is terrible. I guess connecting it to a Lego air compressor would work or something.
I'd redo the valve differently. I think the main design problem of the valve is how the valve is built. If you built it "vertically" rather than horizontally, the valve wouldn't get pulled apart by the forces.
@@Wreckedftfoxy well, what's really cool is that nearly every vacuum engine can also run off compressed air! So if you design an air engine, there's a good chance it'll also run off a vacuum! This one, for example, will run off a vacuum
Steam engines can run off air. I occasionally run my real steam engines on air as the fuel can be quite smelly. Lubrication is key though - Obviously steam oil is required but when you run them on air, it's handy to introduce a little more.
I dont know what i did wrong, i made the svs and the cylinder so that when the cylinder comes down the valve opens and it should work and when it comes up the valve closes, but it just doesnt want to run
@@ruthmedrano2291 yep! In the LEGO engine community, there are multiple types of valve systems, so in context of it being a LEGO engine, that style of valve is called an SVS valve
This is a good start. However, I think you'll find centering the rods easier if you keep the valve stem 1x1 instead of 1x2. Also, you can easily find the parts needed to make a round 2x2 piston cylinder. Circles have less friction than squares. I would also build a second cylinder on the other side of the flywheel (90° offset to maximize power). And another thing. I understand wanting to keep your channel funded, but charging money to get the pdf feels wrong to me.
@@Scetchygamez no lubricating for me. I'd like my projects to be 100% LEGO. Besides, I'm not going for performance, I just think these are fun to build ☺️
I think you're onto something here.... Btw, SVS stands for Single Valve System, to distinguish it from the previously common, but now pretty much extinct, 2 valve setup.
You need to actually make the engine work be air pushing from the other side of the piston this is what makes the piston go the other direction to push the wheel back Kind of train mechanism Ish, This would also make it work in reverse
Right. I was going to make this double acting, but the piston design wouldn't allow me to do that. I plan on making a double acting engine in the future. But for this engine, it's not really necessary
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOSometimes a heavier flywheel can compensate for an 'imperfect' engine. Besides, slower is better IMO for a steam engine. Much more graceful.
Well, no actually. A bigger flywheel would only make it harder for the engine to run at low speeds, because it produces little torque. And it's not that I really care, this is just a fun project
try to build a "Steamship" that runs only with a Lego Compressor (that is actually a thing) and a Steam Engine designed by you... Let's see how will it run.
@@LorenzoFerrari-d5e well, this engine takes a *lot* of air to run for even just a little bit. So while that would be cool, this design wouldn't allow it
@@LorenzoFerrari-d5e might as well just make a whole new engine then. I don't have the parts for a compressor, nor do I have the funds to buy parts for it
They don't pump *enough* air to supply the engine, that's the only problem. I was hoping I could power this using pneumatic pumps and tubes, but it just didn't work
@@rodger-the-robot ok then, explain. I know steam expands some, so there a difference, but a steam engine can run off compressed air and an air engine can run off of steam, so I don't see a big difference. If you're referring to the fact that this engine isn't a double action engine, that just a design limitation. Compressed air and steam engines are very similar
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO when did I reference it being double acting it's not a steem engine because it doesn't run on steem steem involves high temperature and water also steem expands air doesn't
*technically* you're correct, but I called it a "steam" engine because, theoretically, it could run off steam. Besides, with LEGO engines, the two terms are interchangeable
Should I make more steam/air engines?
(P.S. I do have some fun ideas!)
You definitely should :)
Ofc!
No one can stop you so YEEEESSS
Absolutely!
Try to take the wheel of
steam engine simulator in real life, very cool
Hello fellow Ange the Great enjoyer
You should add another section to the valve so it pulls and pushes the piston. Basically turn it into a single stroke engine, which is how steam engines work in real life (there are probably some exceptions, though)
@@GamingGenius777 I actually planned on doing that, but the piston design wouldn't let me do it the way I wanted. I'll most likely make another that is a double action
No most steam engines are two stroke, that's why it has the valve gear
@@pilotbug6100 That doesn't make sense, and what does that have to do with the valve gear? Maybe you confused it with single and double acting.
Most steam engines are double-acting (single stroke) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-_and_double-acting_cylinders#Steam_engines
@@pilotbug6100 each movement of the piston is a stroke, so the steam engine has two power strokes per revolution making it a single stroke engine.
I have a friend who lives on a farm and they have an industrial air compresser, I tried using it and it blew up my Lego engine
Bruh
What did you expect lol
💀💀💀
Get bigger cylinders or bigger stroke
I'd say make a double acting one instead. Here you're putting a lot of pressure on the valve, because it's closed for half the revolution of the flywheel, give or take, but a double acting one is only closed very shortly, and it's more efficient. Great work though, I'm impressed with what you achieved here.
I think I might build one my self!
Put some lithium grease on the moving parts, there will be less friction resistance and should work better on lower pressure
Or even a lighter oil that is plastic safe
Not for me, I'm trying to make things that are 100% LEGO. I don't want to have to use anything like sealants or lubricants. And besides, I'm not going for performance, I just like to build these 😊
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOmaybe Lego official rc wheel will work but I guess it won’t change many
Remember to drain the water from the compressor tank if you find it doesn't hold as much air as it used too
My RUclips homepage once again satisfying my obsession with pneumatic engines and LEGO? Splendid
I'm pretty sure if you got it to run for long enough the friction that would cause so much heat to build up that you would fuse the bricks and plates together.
Well, yes, but you're talking about multiple thousands of rpms for long periods of time. This one probably only has a maximum of 1500, maybe. So that's not really a concern
Double the points for looks and functionality! Once again, impressive work bro!
Was building a similar System but using the Pistons and valves from pneumatic Sets. Perfectly timed, I was also able to build a twi piston Engine.
Unfortunately I don't habe the parts anymore.
Funfact to this, due to missing air compressors, I built my own from Lego Pistons and a Motor too.
[no free energy!!!]
Cool! You're so underrated
nice work. Now make a working steam locomotive wheel model
I watched your hand in the beginning, when the nozzle was more centred in the gap it shot off the bricks, but when the compressor nozzle was pointing more towards the wheel then it worked. Might have been a parallax error but that’s my observation. As of now I’m yet to see the rest of the video lol
Yeah, when the nozzle was pointing directly in it increased the Amount of air that made it in and therefore increased the pressure
For holding stuff together, I'd say just use more technic pieces. I often see those get used just to really force creations to stay together, rather than fall apart because of basic brick-in-brick connections.
true act of art
I feel like Pneumatic would be really cool for a design similar. Great job! 👊👍🎉
That's the thing with steam engines like that, they were meant to be run with high torque, not quickly. Actually, one type of that steam mechanism was known to actually shake itself to death at high speeds.
Amazing vid as always!
You should make a double-acting cylinder like a real steam engine. You won't have to jump start it. The trickiest thing to deal with is going to be the "gland" where the piston rod exits the block, as a cross-axle will leak terribly, you want a smooth sided axle for the job.
I'm actually working on one right now!
“Ferb I know what we’re gonna do today!”
you should make a reverse direction engine ive made one with pneumatics in past instead of the 90 degree offset i did 0 degrees tubes done like normal i like your design here its well done and compact
Wow!😮 so cool
can you make one with a boiler attached to it?
I don't really see what that would add. I might add a boiler to an upcoming project, but just for aesthetics
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO what I mean is to make it self sustainable instead of using an air pump or vacuum. Also, if you want to do it, use metal Lego, as normal Lego would be near melting.
@@thewafflegamer6152 "metal LEGO" only has gears and axles. Also, the amount of pressure required to run this thing means a small boiler wouldn't run this for very long, a second or two max
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO whelp, I guess I will wait till such product is released, even if the final product is terrible. I guess connecting it to a Lego air compressor would work or something.
i would like to see how much torque it produces relative to like, a powered up motor or something
It has almost no torque. So it doesn't even compare to a motor
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO oh ok, fair enough 😭
The power of Legos
I'd redo the valve differently. I think the main design problem of the valve is how the valve is built. If you built it "vertically" rather than horizontally, the valve wouldn't get pulled apart by the forces.
Btw u cab prob run it on a vacuum, but it ll spin in the opeosite direction
Yeah, just not as good
Thank you
honestly im thinking of making a lego vaccum valve gear engine but air seems alot easier
@@Wreckedftfoxy well, what's really cool is that nearly every vacuum engine can also run off compressed air! So if you design an air engine, there's a good chance it'll also run off a vacuum! This one, for example, will run off a vacuum
I use the exact same valve designs for my engines, it’s quite a clever one
Could you also build a James watt engine
I'd love to make Watt's engine. I've been doing some studying up on it and it's a fascinating design!
Can you make a video on how to build this?
I've got instructions available here:
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-instructions
The realistic train kind of says I think I can over and over again
That’s not a “Working Lego steam engine,” it’s a working Lego PNEUMATIC engine.
In the LEGO engine space, the term is interchangeable, because real steam can't be physically used, but the engines can theoretically run off steam
Steam engines can run off air. I occasionally run my real steam engines on air as the fuel can be quite smelly.
Lubrication is key though - Obviously steam oil is required but when you run them on air, it's handy to introduce a little more.
First I thought it was a vacuum engine but no, its the opposite lol. Great video btw. Hope you improve on this concept
first time you said SVS i thought you said HVSS as in the ww2 tank suspension
Is that stopwatch for the air compressor or the engine
@@Threefinger-132 it's for how long the engine could run on a full tank of air
Maybe a heavier flywheel?
Eh, not really. That would have most likely slowed it down, mainly because it didn't really have much torque.
Nice! now try it with pneumatic cylinders and switches!
I would if I had them or the money to get them
I think this is cooler honestly
it's quite consuming power and air. but u make a really cool engine 👍👍
Yeah it's not the greatest, but I had fun making it, and that's all that really matters!
I dont know what i did wrong, i made the svs and the cylinder so that when the cylinder comes down the valve opens and it should work and when it comes up the valve closes, but it just doesnt want to run
Tuning is everything! Try changing slight parts. You'll get it eventually!
I have an air compressor but I just don't have enough parts
You're in luck!
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-moc
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO haaaa it’s tempting for 30 bucks i Will see maybe for my bday
The Lego locomotion!
Wait, don’t stream engines kind of have the same mechanism in the Pistons 0:41
@@ruthmedrano2291 yep! In the LEGO engine community, there are multiple types of valve systems, so in context of it being a LEGO engine, that style of valve is called an SVS valve
Lego already have a piece for this
A pneumatic cylinder? Right, but I don't have the parts or money to build a true pneumatic engine
This is a good start. However, I think you'll find centering the rods easier if you keep the valve stem 1x1 instead of 1x2. Also, you can easily find the parts needed to make a round 2x2 piston cylinder. Circles have less friction than squares.
I would also build a second cylinder on the other side of the flywheel (90° offset to maximize power).
And another thing. I understand wanting to keep your channel funded, but charging money to get the pdf feels wrong to me.
I'm still working on different ways to improve this design.
And also, its a dollar. Besides, I put a lot of work into making the instructions
Nice🔥
Really great stuff!
Now make it "double acting" :)
1 day before the first particle accelerator powered Lego Engine
You should have lubricated the valves and piston then i t would run faster
@@Scetchygamez no lubricating for me. I'd like my projects to be 100% LEGO. Besides, I'm not going for performance, I just think these are fun to build ☺️
Can you make some instrucsioons
I already have!
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-instructions
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO thanks
You would have put an exhaust valve on the other side of the engine I think it would have worked better
There's a built in exhaust valve on top of the SVS valve, it runs about as good as possible for what it is
see if you can make a piston engine with compressed air :D
Now build an actual steam engine (I do allow you to use an electric heater tho)
@@oPlazmaMC with LEGO? They'll melt!
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO i believe there is some website where you can buy lego pieces out of metal
Only axles and gears. Besides, they cost a fortune!
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO ah then that wouldnt work
Yeah. But it'd be cool if it was possible!
I kept hearing a leak in the background, maybe you should check the pipes and hoses on your compressor.
It's an older hose. Works just fine, but we have a few others that are a bit newer
Make more sir engine
Sadly😢, I can’t get mine to run so ima go back through the steps to improve!
Sadly I forgot to run it after my school but hopefully I’ll run it tomorrow then post it
I think you're onto something here....
Btw, SVS stands for Single Valve System, to distinguish it from the previously common, but now pretty much extinct, 2 valve setup.
Huh. I was told it was Slide Valve System. I learned something new!
You need to actually make the engine work be air pushing from the other side of the piston this is what makes the piston go the other direction to push the wheel back Kind of train mechanism Ish, This would also make it work in reverse
Right. I was going to make this double acting, but the piston design wouldn't allow me to do that. I plan on making a double acting engine in the future. But for this engine, it's not really necessary
how many torque can it handle
@@expertfaun11492 not much. If you were to try and grab the axle, putting any amount of force might stop it
what compressor did you use?
@@Railwayguy12 I'm not entirely sure. It's one we've had for years
I think a heavier flywheel would also have been better at first. That might have been part of the problem.
A heavier flywheel would've only made it run slower. I did do a few off-camera tests
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO Around 2:30 it seems that more inertia could have helped it.
Maybe, but if it couldn't turn a light flywheel like that, I don't believe it would've turned a heavier flywheel
@@DeltonAdamsLEGOSometimes a heavier flywheel can compensate for an 'imperfect' engine. Besides, slower is better IMO for a steam engine. Much more graceful.
What kind of RPMs are you turning? Looks pretty fast.
I didn't measure it while testing (I should've), but I'd say somewhere around 1K- 1.5K RPM
why not try making a cylinder and sum wheels and make the rods and wheels of a trqin but only wheels rods and cylinders
I might if I can decide on which valve gear to use
Great! Now make a *steam* engine
Yeah, not with real steam. That would melt in seconds
If you’re still reading this make a mk2 with like a valve gear or multiple wheels
@@Legofiftyfour I have been looking into some kind of valve gear, but there's still a ton of things to work out with it
It needs a bigger flywheel
Well, no actually. A bigger flywheel would only make it harder for the engine to run at low speeds, because it produces little torque. And it's not that I really care, this is just a fun project
Woah how!!!
It's actually super simple! If you're interested, I've got instructions available here:
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-instructions
try to build a "Steamship" that runs only with a Lego Compressor (that is actually a thing) and a Steam Engine designed by you... Let's see how will it run.
@@LorenzoFerrari-d5e well, this engine takes a *lot* of air to run for even just a little bit. So while that would be cool, this design wouldn't allow it
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO
Right... Need a new type of cylinder, then... And a new valve.
@@LorenzoFerrari-d5e might as well just make a whole new engine then. I don't have the parts for a compressor, nor do I have the funds to buy parts for it
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO
I don't
@@LorenzoFerrari-d5e sorry bout that. Meant to say "I" but I accidentally hit "u"
Glue that valve and your ready to go!
Hey, woah woah woah! Lol
When i heard steam engine i thought of the video game uploading site and when I heard valve i thought of the game studio that owns steam
PLEASE SHOW A TUTORIAL
I've got instructions available here:
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-instructions
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO ok thx
hey its cool
They didn't work very WELL.
WELL!
Can you make it work on steam ,but not air
@@bluebee163 uh, no, it's plastic. It would melt within seconds. And metal LEGO bricks don't exist, so I can't go that way, either
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO cold steam. Use liquid nitrogen. Theres like steam come out!
@@bluebee163 I rather not destroy my bricks. If you want to try it, go ahead!
Well i do have bricks but i dont have liquid nitrogen
Try making a working steam locomotive out of Lego.
Well, I don't have *that* many parts, but I can definitely try a locomotive engine
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO How about a steam powered LEGO boat?
@@railfanmusicboi well, that's not really possible with what I've got. The sheer amount of air required to run some of these engine is crazy
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO Maybe you could power the boat from an air tank on the shore by means of a really long hose.
bro theres lego pumps that exist, they can use air, theyre called pneumatic pumps i think.
They don't pump *enough* air to supply the engine, that's the only problem. I was hoping I could power this using pneumatic pumps and tubes, but it just didn't work
👏🏻
interesting
Tutorial?
I've got instructions here:
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-instructions
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO thx
Do tutorial pls
I've got instructions available here:
bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-instructions
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO thanks man i appreciate it
Pls tutorial
I have instructions available here:
www.bluebrickmocs.com/working-steam-engine-moc
Made a car for this engine
Am I the only one who hates bricks that are not completely pressed down? 😭
Lol, after a while they pop up, and I forget to look and fix them 😂
We all do…
Im going to make a steem engine... (Makes a air engine)
@@rodger-the-robot well, it's technically the same thing, so...
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO no it's not 😐
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO not even similar
@@rodger-the-robot ok then, explain. I know steam expands some, so there a difference, but a steam engine can run off compressed air and an air engine can run off of steam, so I don't see a big difference. If you're referring to the fact that this engine isn't a double action engine, that just a design limitation. Compressed air and steam engines are very similar
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO when did I reference it being double acting it's not a steem engine because it doesn't run on steem steem involves high temperature and water also steem expands air doesn't
make a v8 engine
@@OrioniSelmani I have already made a few V8's. However, I do plan to make another soon
@@DeltonAdamsLEGO cool
Cool
FIX THE AIR LEAK FOR GOD SAKES
That was on old hose. We got a new one
That’s a pneumatic engine, not steam
*technically* you're correct, but I called it a "steam" engine because, theoretically, it could run off steam. Besides, with LEGO engines, the two terms are interchangeable
All steam engines can run off air. I sometimes run my real steam engines on air.
Oil