PLEASE READ THE PINNED COMMENT BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 1:04, PLEASE 😭😭✋ Part 2: (link here when it comes out) Edit: Some of you pointed out that it's probably N at 1:04 and yes, I checked over it again V AND Lizzy are missing, and so is the boat they were in. Could it be possible the they went somewhere else because I don't see why Lizzy and the boat would be missing as well? Plus, it's still a short fly time to notice Uzi and go into the building without Uzi noticing because she was looking at the window when V disappeared Edit: Oh, also , I know some of you are saying that Uzi got scratched and that's why this theory can't work, I was trying to say that Cyn could just put a hologram over herself and pretend to be V, I didn't use a good enough example of that, my bad. ALSO in episode 2, one of the WD were HOLDING a holographic cup and she could physically feel it until it disappeared from her hand Edit again 😭😭: Another thing that could back up this theory is the fact that the Solver has used holograms to trick people into thinking they were someone else before. It's happened to Uzi in episode 2, the Solver pretended to be N to trick her and let her guard down. It happened to N in episode 7, the Solver was messing with him by using a V hologram (kind of ironic it was V) and then she even hugged him as a Cyn hologram (proving holograms can be physical in this universe). In episode 8, Uzi and V got tricked by an N hologram. But, for the one with the V hologram for N, she was in the same pose that Cyn would be in that some of you are pointing out in this video. Yes, it IS V's signature pose as it's seen in Disassembly Required, but it's weird that the V hologram would do that when that V in episode 4 did that too I'm honestly not sure what to believe of this theory, I'm just showing possible evidence of it being true Remember, you guys don't have to agree with this theory
But also even A.S. is a hologram, it can still touch. When episode 7 Cyn hugs N, she was still a hologram. (A.S. used Cyn's body for using Tessa as a skinsuit)
The Solver can make holograms you can physically touch, like in episode 2 when the WD was holding a holographic cup and she could actually feel it until it disappeared from her hand
@@thatsnotokay Yes, thats called *physical holograms* thats part of the Eternal Eldritch State (EES) which is a thing from the Absolute Solver and its primary host.
This is simply just V's signature pose. Any murder drones fan would know this. From her concept art and the theme song. I can't remember if she ever stands like this in the show AT ALL. but this is normal for V.
@@thatsnotokay yea I do kinda agree with this theory my thoughts are it's something Liam planned to reveal but retconned though it still fits into the lore fine also I noticed that in this scene V acts much creepier then she normally does granted that could be just because N isn't around but they way she acted really felt similar to how cyn would act imatating someone kinda overplaying the role a bit
4:04 Some people reacting to this pose as if it is something new we haven't seen before... No, it's not Cyn's pose you muppets, V has literally always had that pose, it's literally one of her signature poses since one of the first times she was shown she had that pose... Go look at the Liam Vickers video of Disassembly required, she's literally constantly in that pose...
4:02 at this moment, V just did a Cyn pose, like losing control of her body, i think you see what i mean, so yeah its another thing that could help this theorie, i believe this one, ty for making me discover still more about Murder Drones even though i know quasi everything Edit: also it could have been Doll since we see her disappear after that, so its 50/50 cause we see both Cynessa and Doll in the batiment
Actually Theory looks Good… and The V do Fricking ✌️from Building and After This Playing With Uzi Class like Nothing happen… and legs is not a argument, Classic Liam V ALWAYS Have This Pose… and This is one of the 4 Characters who a lot of times standing like That…
For those saying that "holograms cant scratch or be interacted with" we are forgetting that in episode 2 the drone that was investigating the crime scene and picked up a coffee mug only for it to disappear, the mug was a hologram ans she interacted with it as if it was a physical object, so in theory the Absolute Solver can make its holograms physical.
EXACTLY! Thank you! I completely forgot about that one, but I did remember the one Cyn used to pretend Uzi stabbed N in episode 8, I should've used either of those two as the example instead 😭
Thats actually exactly how I noticed the entire hologram thing. I actually tried my best to write it down around a year ago back in 2023 lol. But I noticed it and was rambling about it to some friends
2:19 also, if V had really heard the glass break, she would've heard Uzi here too. Its at a much shorter distance than the house, so it wouldn't make sense for her to hear that sound on such a long distance, and not hearing Uzi here, at a shorter distance than then. 1:05 unfortunately, that's N. you can see him holding, or at least, being close to Rebecca. but, in this scene Uzi is shown looking at the window, and considering the reflex on it, that's Uzi's pov, and not a camera shot like normal. and here comes something i've thought to explain V not being there when Uzi is looking. maybe the solver knew that Uzi was looking at the window, so it "deleted" V from there (by using a hologram) to trick Uzi into thinking she is not there, and so not questioning the existence of 2 V's. there are still some things that support this little theory inside a theory. first, if V really saw Uzi there, and flew to her direction, it is impossible that she didn't panicked when V supposedly took flight in her direction. the solver, knowing this, "erased V from there", to lower Uzi's concerns, and making her think that V was never there with N at that moment. and as the camera doesn't shows the lake again, it's impossible to see if V really was there with N or not. and, there are also things that counterpoint this theory. the absolute solver never "erased" a person or something with ilusions (at least as i remember). the absolute solver has never used its ilusions from such a far distance (as long as i remember). and the heaviest one, that Uzi mentions, sarcastically that she is so glad that they are fitting in. it wouldn't make sense V "not being there" and Uzi being jealous of something that didn't happen with V. but that's the only counterpoints i can think of. most of them seem more like things that just haven't been proved, but are by far not impossible, considering what the absolute solver can do. the Uzi being jealous is the only one that makes me doubt it a bit.
@@thatsnotokayI think I agree with you with the V hologram since CYN herself shown herself with uzi in episode 4 in the exact same location as this “”V””
You know what? Despite the holes that are still left,this theory might be true. Now I'll have to burn my braincells while I'm thinking about the MD lore and mysteries,again...
I do believe that V is Cyn's Holograms but I don't believe that the Cynessa body, sound and hand as visual hallucinations tho, I believe it's Cyn herself: Firstly in episode 3; Spacesuit Tessa arrives with J and now, we all know that Spacesuit Tessa is Cyn so it suits later in episode 4, when N was searching Uzi and found the zombie drone tape, if you look at the TV when he looks at it too, you see his eyes ( logic ) and others eyes with red glow and yellow glow, like Cynessa ( it's blurry let's be fr it looks like an X for the yellow glow ) at 13:06, in the same scene, on the console we can also notice a hand (like the one we saw in episode 2, with Uzi in episode 4 and way later with Cynessa!) at 12:53 on the down left
Also I think it's fully Cyn because they are in Cabin Fever, let's not forget it was where the humans did experiences on the worker drones ( Nori, Yeva, Alice etc ) with the absolute solver I suppose Cyn was there to find the key to do all her little things we see her finally do in episode 7 but wasn't able because too risky? too early ? I mean Cyn likes to play as we saw in the last fight so idk
1:04 that's N holding Rebecca with Emily and Darren at the sides of the boat like in the previous scene, that's not V. If it was V then where did N go? 1:44 considering how fast the MD's are 22, seconds is nothing. 2:23 V isn't in a hurry to klll Uzi until Doll is dealt with and wouldn't kill her in front of N (at least until the flesh thing shows up). 3:22 None of these were hallucinations... that was the real Cyn sitting there and then she leaves. 3:33 V while taking Lizzy (as she was also missing with V) to stable ground and most likely noticed Uzi at the window. 4:00 This is more of a confession to the audience for why V does the things she does in front of N, she stays distant from him even pretended to not know who he was in EP1. Also, take note of her eyes here (they have the lines under them like when she sees the flesh thing just less of them), she is most likely feeling guilty when saying this and is concerned when looking toward the bag Uzi was trying to hide from her. 4:14 This is just typical V behavior, she loves climbing things, clinging to walls and ceilings. 4:21 Since there's no other hosts outside the 5 we know, It has to be V. Cyn only has the large claws and those would leave a bigger scratch.
1:04 That is true, I didn't notice if that was V, then N disappeared 1:44 There's no way she's THAT fast considering how far away the building was 2:23 Even if that was the case, she'd be at least mad to see her 3:22 They were hallucinations (or at least holograms), Uzi was looking directly at her and she disappeared 3:33 All that in 22 seconds though? 4:00 I have no idea what you're talking about here 4:14 I didn't say that her climbing was weird, I said going to an upper floor and out of sight was great for a hologram to disappear without suspicion 4:21 Could be Cyn, we did see her at the end of episode 3, but yea, only the DD have those long claws I did say there were a lot of holes in this theory
@@thatsnotokay For 2:23, if you check the wiki, V can fly a max speed of Mach 1.9 (1,458 MPH) so I'd assume she can get there pretty quick even going relatively slow for herself.
I think it is V in this scene, since she did scratch her eye and Idk for me I think this would be weird if it's Cyn. But I do believe the worker drone V in episode 7 is not a hologram, just a backup of her, because it is being hold by one of the solvers arms and we all see how she is floating above the ground instead of walking. Why would Cyn make a hologram do such things? Plus her visor color was yellow instead of white which means that backup would be infected with the AS. A Hologram of the old V would probably have white visors, but let me know what you think. Have a nice day :D
"Why would Cyn make a hologram do such things?" She literally made holograms of Khan and then killed him in front of Uzi, yeah sure "Why would Cyn make a hologram do such things?" the point of that scene is Cyn trying to torment N using a projection of V, if it's really real V then how come she disappears as soon as Cyn break the lantern above? and, also, just like the other comment has said: holograms are interactable as in episode 2 we see one of the drone try to drink but turns out the mug is hologram
I believe in ep 5, cyn controlled over V when she was shut down. As in error 606, cyn as in the absolute solver probably HAS the ability to take someone's information when infecting them. Making it easier for cyn to impersonate them
I’d say around a year ago, I had noticed this as well. So, Cyn is technically in the cabin. How? Her silhouette on the chair and her hand peaking around the corner. It shows that Cyn is in that cabin and can trick Uzi. Then with V, both her verbal and body language are heavily different from previous episodes. And with V being concerned/scared when she see’s Uzi using her solver, it looks like she’s seeing it for the first time happening to Uzi. And then the people question, how can V’s hologram touch Uzi? Episode 2, at the crime scene, one of the drones picked up a mug but the mug was a hologram. A visual gag turning into such a big piece of evidence heh. But from episodes 1-3, we can see V’s personality change a little. Also, it would make sense that Cyn was over at cabin fever labs as in episode 5, she’s there as well. I just love how this has gone unnoticed for so long. I’ve mentioned it a few times on livestreams but nobody believed me. Just happy that someone FINALLY noticed and brought this theory into the spotlight.
This theory could be entirely 50/50 Cyn was in there but choose to hide, could be possible to make herself look like V, but going off motive from V to find Doll makes sense she wants to get this done as soon as possible. This just makes everything more fun with story
I think u may have a point, since after episode 3 The Promening J and Tessa arrived on Copper 9. After episode 7 Mass Destruction it was revealed that it was Cyn disguised as Tessa, and in episode 8 Absolute End, after Uzi saved N, Cyn used the call back ping and used alot of hands, just like the one Uzi saw in Cabin Fever. In episode 2 Heartbeat, Eldritch J used the cameras to create illusions. So this theory might be true that V was Cyn when she went to see Uzi in Cabin Fever, if there's anything else i missed pls tell me😊 Murder Drones FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!
Liam said that the DDs can move so fast to the point that A human would burn just by touching them, N also Can fly to the stratosphere in 3 seconds and that distance is way longer than V and the building
I find this theory compelling but purely for behavioral shift of V between the scenes. The actual physical distance covered by V in a particular time frame is of little consequence in light of the maneuvers we've seen the Murder Drones are capable of in the finale.
1:48 Dissasembly Drones have special coding dedicated to finding and hunting down worker drones so V must have seen Uzi with X-ray vision or something To back this up, at episode 1 (pilot) Uzi was using a broken of mirror glass to get a look at N behind a car and N spotted her even tho she shouldn’t be able to be seen from N’s direction, meaning that he could have X-Ray
by the way uzi was taking her time when v was there looking in her backpack if not then she could have flow but it is possible because we did see cyn/cyessa was there if thats what it’s called but if now it can be also she was in the exact mood of v would act but i do agree how weird it was and how fast v got there and how cyn or cynessa could have tried to kill doll from escaping the planet if not possible
About 4:06 V did pull out her aK and pointed it at Uzi at the end of ep3 where Uzi was catching the bullet with her solver, the reason she wants to kill Uzi is because V is scared of the Solver which you can definitely see in ep8, she is just trying to be scary as a coping mechanism.
@ idk, V being mean to N definitely was a coping mechanism, pretty sure the same thing happened here. V was scared of the solver hunting them down or just being there again because of the horrors of the solver, she obviously would be trying to eliminate the host of the solver (Uzi) ,,I have to kill you next‘‘ is saying she wants to kill Uzi (because of the solver) but V needs her to find Doll. Being scary is a coping mechanism because V has ‘‘needs‘‘ to kill both so she is in a dilemma.
It could be Cyn, not the one with J, but the one inside Uzi trying to take over her. For that to happen Uzi needs to overheat and Cyn was trying to see how to make it happen, and physiological pressure makes Uzi overheat faster.
Idk this may not affect the theory at all but in episode 4 V (or possibly the hologram) says "Better to stay distant though.. etc." In episode 5 cyn says to tessa "Best stay away from the gala though" This could have nothing to do with the theory but i think they sound extremely similar and why would it be similar unless one could possibly be the same person? Idk
The time between when uzi break's the glass and then sees V is 18 seconds and as disassemble drones can fly very very fast which was shown in in episode 1 and that they can hear very well as they were designed to kill things so V would've heard ore seen the glass crack flew over there quickly to see what happened and also the holograms can't physically harm people and it would be hard to hide one of the claws but I understand where you're coming from
1) She could have a hologram over her so she could still do harm (I should've put a better example, my bad) 2) The building was still a decent distance away for her to notice all that AND THEN fly over WITHOUT being seen or heard
I mean, heres the catch.. The hologram does not act like V at all, it’s quite the opposite as V usually dont bother to do something like this towards Uzi
no? This is early V we're talking about, she antagonizes Uzi several times in the episode, tries to kill her even after she snaps back to reality, V is actively trying to kill Uzi while being able to justify it
But remember that she didn't started to act like that until she got "surprised" when Uzi got overheated and transformed a thing into a monster @@reinbew62
Hi again! I have rewatching epidode 4 and i have something to tell. This theory MAY TAKE A CHANCE TO BE TRUTH because CYNESSA WASNT A VISUAL HALLUCINATION! We have alredy saw tessa in episode 3 and maybe she was alredy talking with doll after ending of episode 3. Doll knew that Uzi will try to find something by herself about solver and followed her to camp. Also doll came to the camp with Tessa-Cynessa, BECAUSE THEY HAD A DEAL-Doll get the bug and Tessa with J taking Doll to the Cabin Fever Laboratory. And after Uzi saw Cynessa, Cynessa change herself to V hollogram and trick Uzi.
Yea, that's entirely possible because I know they were trying to look for the key bug as well, plus they need to kill Uzi because she's a threat to the Solver since she's infected with it, so that's motive
that is N in the scene of 1:08. You can see Rebecca in the boat and the two drones who fell out that were in the frame near N just before she's no where to be seen in that frame and was last seen in the air, it's probably the real V in the cabin with Uzi
yea and also it shows cyn in the corner. Plus, in one of the scenes she stands like cyn does, and cyn is known for standing strangely. Plus, she acts super out of character and just makes no sense like look at 4:04 when she standa just how cyn does…
1:08 that one is N,not V. He is in the boat with Rebecca. And V isn’t shown in this scene either,so that means she had already left. 1:44 she hadn’t just 22 seconds,she had more time because when the ones holding her boat fell she started flying and then probably saw Uzi on the window of the building. Also,disassembly drones are really fast,and the building wasn’t thaat far away.
I had noticed it was N, yes, but someone else pointed out that V was still in the shot, I don't have time to look for her now, but if you wanna look you can
This could actually make sense about this theory and there could be actually wrong for this one 1. 3:26 The Episode 4 Camp we see some Foreshadow in there where we saw the first time that cyn was there using Tessa body Now it's impossible to make noise in there because There is Actually no one in the abandoned building, only Uzi, we can pretty much safe to say that it would be Absolute Solvers where it can warn or make Uzi see things (i think?) And Cyn Was also there too. Now we can say that Cyn was in there and use her ability of Hologram to interact with Uzi and leave it a scratch to Uzi face Or Lets Just say that V has Good Instincts and good hearing where she could Possible heard the window cracking or see the Abandoned Building so She possibly sees Uzi in the window and Uzi not noticing that. Even mentioned Doll as well and shows a disrespectful attitude over Uzi Face in abandoned buildings So Thats Actually V For sure Now it should be pretty simple and obvious because most fictional characters does this and i think it could debunked the theory anyways. Of Course Murder Drones are quite faster enough to get there in Blink of Eyes. 2. 3:01 now its weird, we see V is shocked after seeing this we can tell that V is gonna kill her because Uzi is the Host of Absolute Solvers and its more danger than threat itself (Yes Doll is Absolute Solver but this doesn't mean V could be Hologram by Cyn because she doesn't know about any kinds of stuff, Im sure V is following the ordered after J "Death") 4:17 Now After V Or Hologram One done Interacted with Uzi, now I'm not quite sure why there's no footstep sounds to make some noises After V getting out in there and came back to Lizzy, and she also mentioned N is having new friends with some worker drones. That's V for sure. 4:04 Now People claiming this V doing Cyn Pose, But this is not actually true, there arts cover of Murder Drones Disassemble Require V doing this kind of poses, im pretty sure that was made before The Episode 5 Home. So could be foreshadow anyways.
Cyn does have her ways being sneaky and manipulative not to mention pulling strings where everyone least expects so there might be some bearing to this
This theory could work because in the post credits scene Uzi's hologram is able to interact with stuff so Solver holograms can behave like physical objects
4:04 , weird theory, but i think V/cyn was standing like that because cyn, didn't have proper control of her body, so thats why cyn has V in that position. (i know i can't eplain well :>)
The idea of Cyn pretending to be V for the funsies is the best thing I've heard all day. Though, the dialogue about going to catch Doll is what throws me off since that's something V would know.
3:26 I don't think those were hallucinations. I think that was Cyn actual there. Uzi had never seen Cyn before, so there's no reason for her to see a hallucination of her right there. If anything, Cyn being there increases the possibility of V having been one of Cyn's holograms. The fact that the finale showed that Cyn likes to play with her victims, Cyn could be playing mind games with Uzi here, trying to get her to overheat.
i don't think it's Cyn, sure she always has been on Copper 9 but hiding inside planet's core. I think the holograms in this episode is CynTessa at 3:25 other than that there's nothing to prove V is hologram during that scene the only time where V is a hologram is in episode 7 where she's in her mansion outfit
I'M FEELING CUTE SO I'MMA WRITE WHY I THINK THIS THEORY CANNOT WORK!! I'm gonna take the comment from @Kirakishou7 and back it up. 1:04 that's N holding Rebecca with Emily and Darren at the sides of the boat like in the previous scene, that's not V. If it was V then where did N go? (Nothing to add more onto that, it's true) 1:44 considering how fast the MD's are 22, seconds is nothing. + Add the fact on the last frame when they fell, V was already in a flying pose, considering dissassembly drones are VERY fast and she was already flying, she just had to dash over there. Seconds are also proven to be nothing as in Episode 8 when Cyn walks in the hallway looking for N and Uzi, they aren't there when we saw them half a second ago. They hid in less than half a second? 2:23 V isn't in a hurry to klll Uzi until Doll is dealt with and wouldn't kill her in front of N (at least until the flesh thing shows up). + Most likely, Uzi is the only thing that is like Doll, so helpig dealing with Doll, that's the reason she wouldn't be in a hurry. + Even if V knew things, i believe she didn't know everything. Since Uzi and Doll didn't show any signs of the solver being related to Cyn / able to be controlled by Cyn. It is most likely V decided it wasn't a hurry / didn't realize the solver was related to Cyn yet. V may know things but she most ilkely didn't knew EVERYTHING. When she saw the solver turning yellow, she realized it was related to Cyn / Cyn had control over them and she HAS to kill Uzi and now it's more of a hurry than what she thought. This can be backed up with the fact before N came in the pod in Episode 2, V said her eye was weird and they should do an autopsy to find out. And V didn't mention Cyn until Uzi was fully under "Cyn" control (Or more just in a crazy state with one of her solver form, but V didn't exactly knew that.) 3:22 None of these were hallucinations... that was the real Cyn sitting there and then she leaves. + I have proof to back up this. Cyn was already here. For the simple reason later on, right before N has flashbacks from the Zombie Drone VHS, he can be seen turning on a non working screen. Before he lit it up if you look closely you can see two "X" looking exactly weirdly enough like Cyn's eyes, starring at him. 3:33 V while taking Lizzy (as she was also missing with V) to stable ground and most likely noticed Uzi at the window. (Nothing have to add on that part) 4:00 This is more of a confession to the audience for why V does the things she does in front of N, she stays distant from him even pretended to not know who he was in EP1. Also, take note of her eyes here (they have the lines under them like when she sees the flesh thing just less of them), she is most likely feeling guilty when saying this and is concerned when looking toward the bag Uzi was trying to hide from her. ( 4:14 This is just typical V behavior, she loves climbing things, clinging to walls and ceilings. + This can be backed up at the fact in Episode 1 when we really see V for the first time (out og N talking about her) She is climbing to wall looking at Uzi before landing and saying she kinda wanna practice and play animal balloons shapes with. 4:21 Since there's no other hosts outside the 5 we know, It has to be V. Cyn only has the large claws and those would leave a bigger scratch. + I can't add anything except the fact this one doesn't work as an hologram would do the same scratch since it is seen to be able to interact and mimic everything well to a certain point.
Already responded to this in the original person's comment, thanks for adding on to it though This theory has so many holes, I was just showing possible evidence because the original person just showed the scene and said "Remember guys this is Cyn, not V. V was outside with N and the campers the entire time" and didn't show anything to back up their reasoning 😭
@@thatsnotokay I KNOWWW I DID THE SAME THING WITH THE COMMENT OF THE OTHER ONE HEHE, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN AND BACK UP THINGS I WANTED TO BACK UP ON
I honestly don't think Uzi was hallucinating in that episode since the "hallucination" was literally Cyn (Tecyn or Cynessa) and so I think Cyn was just playing and she actually might've changed form into V since as we all seen she can shapeshift (into Tessa, V in the caves and also N in the last episode final fight)
I wanna focus on the fact that Uzi looked out through the window while V was in the room with her. We don't see if V is at the lake or not, but more importantly Uzi doesn't react. Now she was looking through the window for a short enough time to potentially not notice if V was on the lake, but if the V in the room with her was a hologram she would likely divert Uzi's attention quickly so she doesn't become suspicious of why there are 2 Vs
1:04 its N standing next to the boat still holding that girl that I dont remember the name of and v is gone you can also see that lizzy and a couple more workers are not there
I honesty like and believe this theory bc in the fight Cyn’s hologram hurts them (and nearly kills all three) and the pose she does is Cyn’s pose we see in the show more than once. The clip you showed us where Uzi is confused V is there with her when a min ago she was with others is the same as N where N was with Uzi but V didn’t know it and she saw N.. AARGH LIAM WHY DID YOU EXPLAIN NOTHING AND END THE SHOW?!??!?!!?!? Btw great vid new sub❤
I find this theory pretty interesting plus 4:04 V is even limbing like cyn and plus cyn (in Tessa's skin) arrives at the end of episode 3 with J and we don't see more of that until the end of episode 5 when doll gives her the secret elevator key so either cyn is stalking uzi by pretending to be V pulling the same trick that she did here 4:34 because she left a mark on uzis visor or idk maybe something else and maybe... Uzi wasn't hallucinating here... 3:20 maybe it was cyn trying to make uzi think it was a hallucination and not real...
There's also backup to this theory bc when uzi enters the cabin,u see cynessa for a few seconds then she disappears only for v to appear a few seconds later.
Well I can help because I’ve seen enough to tell V seemed worried that Uzi changed that arrow into a mutated whatever that is and then either in another episode or in that one she spoke like (fr I don’t remember the exact thing she said but it was on the lines of) “didn’t think I wouldn’t know right cyn?” So for all we know in episode one that black hole that escaped from J’s core could have rebuilt itself and still is to this day
Good theory, but holograms must not hurt or interact physically with objects, since this is just a 3D space information, well it not must interact with anything physically, unless it is some god level hologram. V doing Cyn pose, more likely she is a bit going crazy, or just beeing silly, if Cyn took over V, on her screen can be showed symbols of absolute solver and other paranormal stuff. Like uzi. Probably V knew where Uzi is, idk how, maybe these robots are more advanced than we thought. Have a nice day everyone
In episode 2, the WD at the crime scene was holding a hologram cup and didn't realise until it disappeared, plus, like in the example I put, Cyn masked herself to look like N by using a hologram Or an even better example of that (that I should've used instead) was when Cyn hologramed herself into N to make it look like Uzi stabbed N
@@thatsnotokay So we can't say if physical objects were holograms or not, I mean other hologram robots held them, like they were real, well idk. Also I like the series "Murder Drones" it is really good, but also I want to create a horror series that will look like "Murder Drones" series, but really so different. Well anyways, was really interesting talking with you.
Interesting theory, good thoughts, but I don’t think this adds up. First, if you pause this video at 1:05 there are several drones you can make out, only two visors are obviously visible: N and probably Thad. We can definitely tell that the drone you claim as V is actually N, you can pretty obviously make out his hat and the silhouette of Rebecca very close to him. If this was V, we’d probably be able to see the lights of her headband. You can also tell that the other figure is probably Thad because the visor appears to be more green than yellow. Second, the fallen drones are scattered around N’s boat. Meanwhile, V’s boat is already flipped over and Thad is sitting in it. It seems there was possibly a slight skip in time between V’s boat flipping over and Uzi staring out the window: which explains how V could’ve had enough time to sneak up on Uzi. It is definitely suspicious that we see that human hand right before V pops up, but it could’ve also been foreshadowing. There’s a decent amount of evidence for it being influenced by Cyn, but there’s also a decent amount of evidence for it being the real V. As to V’s behavior, it’s really not out of character for her to threaten Uzi’s life. She’s already threatened her before in the prom episode simply for being a worker drone that is threatening her relationship with N. Remember, at this point in the story, V is still in her “crazy” persona. Getting rid of Uzi just allows her to have more influence over N. V’s attitude instantly shifts upon seeing Uzi create organic matter-something she’s only ever seen Cyn possess. She actually straight up calls her “Cyn” in this episode, which leads me to believe that she believes Uzi is nothing but a disguise. Uzi went from being a threat to her relationship with N, to a physical threat to their lives. That’s why her attitude shifts, that’s why she drops the crazy act, and that’s why she becomes serious out of nowhere. Really cool theory though, love the creative thinking.
V is actually still in frame y’all. The one the video pointed out it N. She is sitting on the ground next to the Canoe. You can tell by her large hat. You can also see the glowing of her tail, it is a larger white dot than the rest of the window texture, and is a little more glowy. You can see the faint outline of the spike and the tail itself. Better yet, she is looking no where near the window, and is straight up relaxing on the ground. Uzi was watching the window for much longer, and if V left while she was looking out the window she would notice. I think the” weren’t you just” is very suspicious as well. Definitely not 100%, but this could be true.
Yea I noticed that too because I still saw a drone with a hat similar to V and N was holding Rebecca I should've been more observant with that, but I honestly didn't expect for this video to get as popular as it did I might add that V is still in the shot in the pinned comment if I think it's believable enough when I get home (I'll credit you)
I don't really think this is true, but here are my thoughts that nobody asked for: Keep in mind that V also wanted to kill Uzi in The Promening when Uzi caught the bullet Doll fired using the solver. Pay attention to who she points her gun hand at when Uzi uses the solver. I just don't think V believes that it's Cyn until Uzi transforms the arrow into that fleshy monster thing. "Since I'll have to kill you next" does make sense given what N and V are, and also noting that V and J were promised "You do your job, and I'll leave you and N alone" by Cyn. I also don't think Uzi hallucinated seeing Cyn in Cabin Fever, though it doesn't make sense how the body disappears while Uzi is looking at it. There's a chance that Cyn just caused a glitch in Uzi's vision (hence the static shown for a split second) so that Uzi would pass it off as just a hallucination even though it was actually true... but it doesn't make much sense for why Cyn would want to be seen there in the first place, only to disappear before Uzi actually realised what she was looking at. Same with the hand and the "sound hallucination". I think Cyn was actually there too, looking for the Keybug that Uzi accidentally gets to first. That then later makes sense with how Doll knows to look for the keybug by going to Uzi, as Doll would've been told by Tessa which we later find out to also be Cyn... and Doll wasn't there, so there's no way that Doll could've known otherwise. If that is a hologram of V in the cabin though... why? What purpose would Cyn have to threaten Uzi as V here? The two ended up acting like they don't like each other anyway, it didn't make any difference to Uzi at all. Also with the obligatory "at 1:04, that's N." While there is no other yellow visor that we can see, it also doesn't make sense with how Uzi doesn't seem to react to V leaving, as she would have had to have left while she was looking. Besides, let's say you were right and that *is* V. She's already flying at 0:51 and you can even see her looking around for a split second before the camera switches away. Also remember that they're disassembly drones, built specifically to murder all the worker drones. It would make sense that they are good at spotting workers even in hiding (thermal vision, higher sensitivity to sound, etc... they're futuristic robots, why wouldn't they spot even the slightest of discrepancies?) as it is literally a survival instinct to them to prevent overheating and dying from lack of oil. (as N says in the pilot, and also as V says herself in The Promening with "If you free me now, I promise we'll only kill what we need to survive.") Even if 22 seconds is correct for how long Uzi wasn't looking for, remember that they can fly pretty fast and the building isn't really *that* far away. Look at Episode 7 with how fast J is flying when she gets to the ship, or how fast J and V are both flying while fighting each other in Episode 8. There are two ways that Cyn could've hurt Uzi with the "hologram" if that was her. She could've used the hologram to hide that it's actually her and just make it look like V doing it so that Cyn could test Uzi's control over the solver with how she repairs herself seconds after she "leaves" but she also could've actually done that with the hologram as it seems that some holograms have physical properties, as you mention in the pinned comment of that one worker "holding" a holographic cup in Episode 2. (either way, I believe Uzi would've been able to tell that something else was up with the damage on her Visor from that in particular while she repaired it.) The holograms are also shown to be very limited in range, so for Uzi to not be able to see V through the window while talking to what is claimed to be a hologram, Cyn would need to be in two places with the hologram capabilities at once just to stop Uzi from noticing that there are "two Vs." This isn't completely implausible though as it would explain how Lizzie disappears too instead of just V as per the pinned comment, and also with Episode 7 where we can see Cyn using the holographic stuff while controlling Nori.
I asked for your thoughts, so thank you I did notice that V pointed at Uzi with her gun in ep 3, but she wasn't super threatening to her, just surprised I don't have any thoughts for this one Cyn wants Uzi dead because she poses a threat to her It's been confirmed that it's N there, not V, I double checked, but Lizzy and the boat they were in are missing, not just V, which is weird, and I agree, Uzi not having any reaction is a bit odd. V never looked at the window, she was looking down too much to be looking at the building That's true, but the building was quite a distance away still, I would get it if it was closer, but since she isn't even looking towards the window. It just doesn't make sense Yea, they are fast, but how would V fly that fast without going unnoticed because when J was flying really fast in ep 1, she made a loud noise when she landed I agree with this, and the first way you said wouldn't surprise me, and she probably would notice something's up, but she has been tricked by holograms before. Take Cyn turning into N right before Uzi stabbed her for instance It's possible V and Lizzy went off on their own, hence why the boat is missing, but I don't see why they would do that, but they are friends, so it wouldn't be completely unbelievable. So when V left Uzi might've thought nothing of it (again, weird of the little-to-no reaction) and that's why when the hologram showed up-if it was a hologram-Uzi didn't think much of it. Cyn making a hologram to make it look like V wasn't there would make a little sense, she could just put a hologram over the window, but I don't get why she would make Lizzy and their boat disappear either
i think V threatened Uzi because she knows what Cyn is capable of : controlling Uzi, as Cyn said to V in ep 8 : "You do your job and i leave you and N alone" And V says to N in Ep 4 "we do our jobs and that THING leaves us alone" V wasnt doing her job, kill solver host and worker drones in general too. So Cyn controlled Uzi and gave her a little reminder. V just wants to protect N from Cyn. When she said "better to stay distant though" she probably meant it as "stay away from N" And as you mentioned, holograms cannot leave physical evidences since they're... well... holograms. Thats just my own vision of things. Its still an interresting theory!
That's true as well, I completely forgot about that line in episode 4 lol Also, in episode 2 a WD was holding a holographic cup, and a Cyn hologram in episode 7 hugged N
1:04 It is N because we can see rebecca next to the boat. And also there is a strange detail that 1 boat and a few drones dissapered on minute 5:08 and 5:38 of the original episode 4.
I don’t think Cynessa was a hallucination? She was on earth already since the end of episode 3. Also, it would be really weird to hallucinate Cyntessa exactly without even knowing about Cyn or Tessa.
Uzi looks out the window when V is in the room with her…she should’ve seen the other V outside. But idk maybe the group of campers went off to another part of the frozen lake..out of uzis sight 😮
1:08 I don't wanna be that person but I'm pretty sure this is N and not V... bc if u look closely, u can see Emily in the back on the ice (checking by her pigtails) and the figure is standing which N was doing a sec ago. U can also see Emily on the ice at 0:59 and a different worker (forgot his name) at 1:03 who was getting up and going back to the first pinned scene (1:08) there is another worker on the ice and if it was N standing up, he would've still been in the same position, holding up Rebecca. (No hate towards u, this is my pov of what happened, but i like this theory :D)
Yea, I realised that after I put it out lol, I put it in my pinned comment, but it still wouldn't make sense because V wasn't looking towards Uzi at all
Wow jusy wow i didnt know that V was outsite over to the lake and V pop out inside this cabin middle of nowhere and- wait let me guess Cyn uses a hologram to pretend to be V, right?
It could be, just because is weird that V acts like that to Uzi, not bc she cannot act like that, it's weird bc she was pretty "fine" with Uzi. Still, can be V just acting like that to hurry up Uzi, but Cyn was observing Uzi and V in the episode so, it could be her, the problem is, why? Why Cyn would do this? XD
it's definitely an interesting theory, but I don't believe it. Remember, DDs are extermely fast and can fly anywhere in pretty much seconds. V heard the window breaking for sure, and she already knows that Uzi can accidentally break windows with her Solver, as she notices it in episode 2. Also that's N at 1:04 and as for "V sitting there like nothing happened", V says "Better to stay distant though, don't ya think?", of course she will not say anything about that encounter. FINAL edit I promise, V does have a reason. Cyn's orders. She was trying to kill Uzi, because she needs to. "We do our job and that thing leaves us alone!", says V to N, and J in episode 8. Cyn also repeats this in episode 8, is Cyn watching them? Maybe. Since she appeared in front of Uzi (yes, she does actually appear. Cyn already made it to Copper-09 at this point.)
For the 1:04, I did realise that and put it in the pinned comment True, but when Uzi sneaks up, she doesn't look like she just talked to her in such a sadistic way Yes, but she didn't know Cyn was on Copper-9, nor that she NEEDED Uzi killed, and she's trying to mess with Cyn's plan too, we can see that in episode 6 when she says "Anything to screw with Cyn's plan"
There is a lot of convincing evidence (well done btw for finding all of it). But I just don’t see and reason for it to be cyn like nothing is happening or happened. But ya never know. ❤
PLEASE READ THE PINNED COMMENT BEFORE YOU SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 1:04, PLEASE 😭😭✋
Part 2: (link here when it comes out)
Edit: Some of you pointed out that it's probably N at 1:04 and yes, I checked over it again
V AND Lizzy are missing, and so is the boat they were in. Could it be possible the they went somewhere else because I don't see why Lizzy and the boat would be missing as well? Plus, it's still a short fly time to notice Uzi and go into the building without Uzi noticing because she was looking at the window when V disappeared
Edit: Oh, also , I know some of you are saying that Uzi got scratched and that's why this theory can't work, I was trying to say that Cyn could just put a hologram over herself and pretend to be V, I didn't use a good enough example of that, my bad.
ALSO in episode 2, one of the WD were HOLDING a holographic cup and she could physically feel it until it disappeared from her hand
Edit again 😭😭: Another thing that could back up this theory is the fact that the Solver has used holograms to trick people into thinking they were someone else before. It's happened to Uzi in episode 2, the Solver pretended to be N to trick her and let her guard down. It happened to N in episode 7, the Solver was messing with him by using a V hologram (kind of ironic it was V) and then she even hugged him as a Cyn hologram (proving holograms can be physical in this universe). In episode 8, Uzi and V got tricked by an N hologram. But, for the one with the V hologram for N, she was in the same pose that Cyn would be in that some of you are pointing out in this video. Yes, it IS V's signature pose as it's seen in Disassembly Required, but it's weird that the V hologram would do that when that V in episode 4 did that too
I'm honestly not sure what to believe of this theory, I'm just showing possible evidence of it being true
Remember, you guys don't have to agree with this theory
But also even A.S. is a hologram, it can still touch. When episode 7 Cyn hugs N, she was still a hologram. (A.S. used Cyn's body for using Tessa as a skinsuit)
@@flowerycow4850 Absolute Solver can make *physical holograms* which is not equally as a normal hologram.
@@EndowmentWings I know.
The Solver can make holograms you can physically touch, like in episode 2 when the WD was holding a holographic cup and she could actually feel it until it disappeared from her hand
@@thatsnotokay Yes, thats called *physical holograms* thats part of the Eternal Eldritch State (EES) which is a thing from the Absolute Solver and its primary host.
4:04 She also standing kinda Cyn like. I always thought something was weird about that pose + expression
Ye
I also noticed that
This is simply just V's signature pose. Any murder drones fan would know this. From her concept art and the theme song. I can't remember if she ever stands like this in the show AT ALL. but this is normal for V.
@@Sd_AniThat’s the “Liam Vickers murderous girl” pose, it appears in a lot of his shows.
Exactly
EXACTLY
The end of the series is psychologically affecting the fandom xd
Real 😭
@@thatsnotokay yea I do kinda agree with this theory my thoughts are it's something Liam planned to reveal but retconned though it still fits into the lore fine also I noticed that in this scene V acts much creepier then she normally does granted that could be just because N isn't around but they way she acted really felt similar to how cyn would act imatating someone kinda overplaying the role a bit
@@Torger726 yea
I'm going insane
Honestly this is so true cuz i can't go a day WITHOUT saying Cyn or any md character
4:04
Some people reacting to this pose as if it is something new we haven't seen before...
No, it's not Cyn's pose you muppets, V has literally always had that pose, it's literally one of her signature poses since one of the first times she was shown she had that pose... Go look at the Liam Vickers video of Disassembly required, she's literally constantly in that pose...
Yea, that's why I didn't add it as part of evidence because I've seen V in that pose before the Solver was even introduced
Yeah
4:02 at this moment, V just did a Cyn pose, like losing control of her body, i think you see what i mean, so yeah its another thing that could help this theorie, i believe this one, ty for making me discover still more about Murder Drones even though i know quasi everything
Edit: also it could have been Doll since we see her disappear after that, so its 50/50 cause we see both Cynessa and Doll in the batiment
Actually Theory looks Good… and The V do Fricking ✌️from Building and After This Playing With Uzi Class like Nothing happen… and legs is not a argument, Classic Liam V ALWAYS Have This Pose… and This is one of the 4 Characters who a lot of times standing like That…
V always does this pose bruh-
For those saying that "holograms cant scratch or be interacted with" we are forgetting that in episode 2 the drone that was investigating the crime scene and picked up a coffee mug only for it to disappear, the mug was a hologram ans she interacted with it as if it was a physical object, so in theory the Absolute Solver can make its holograms physical.
EXACTLY! Thank you! I completely forgot about that one, but I did remember the one Cyn used to pretend Uzi stabbed N in episode 8, I should've used either of those two as the example instead 😭
Thats actually exactly how I noticed the entire hologram thing. I actually tried my best to write it down around a year ago back in 2023 lol. But I noticed it and was rambling about it to some friends
And, when Cyn became N, Uzi was able to stab him with the pic axe (finale)
@ yuppers.
The hologram can also be used to hide things (the weird tentacles and projector of Cyn) also knowing that the projectors can hide themselves
2:19
also, if V had really heard the glass break, she would've heard Uzi here too. Its at a much shorter distance than the house, so it wouldn't make sense for her to hear that sound on such a long distance, and not hearing Uzi here, at a shorter distance than then.
1:05
unfortunately, that's N. you can see him holding, or at least, being close to Rebecca. but, in this scene Uzi is shown looking at the window, and considering the reflex on it, that's Uzi's pov, and not a camera shot like normal. and here comes something i've thought to explain V not being there when Uzi is looking. maybe the solver knew that Uzi was looking at the window, so it "deleted" V from there (by using a hologram) to trick Uzi into thinking she is not there, and so not questioning the existence of 2 V's.
there are still some things that support this little theory inside a theory. first, if V really saw Uzi there, and flew to her direction, it is impossible that she didn't panicked when V supposedly took flight in her direction. the solver, knowing this, "erased V from there", to lower Uzi's concerns, and making her think that V was never there with N at that moment. and as the camera doesn't shows the lake again, it's impossible to see if V really was there with N or not.
and, there are also things that counterpoint this theory. the absolute solver never "erased" a person or something with ilusions (at least as i remember). the absolute solver has never used its ilusions from such a far distance (as long as i remember). and the heaviest one, that Uzi mentions, sarcastically that she is so glad that they are fitting in. it wouldn't make sense V "not being there" and Uzi being jealous of something that didn't happen with V.
but that's the only counterpoints i can think of. most of them seem more like things that just haven't been proved, but are by far not impossible, considering what the absolute solver can do. the Uzi being jealous is the only one that makes me doubt it a bit.
4:04 not just the pose but I don’t remember any of the drones having such creepy tail movement? It’s like Cyn’s tentacles
Sort of, but V has been in this pose before in Disassembly Required
@@thatsnotokayI think I agree with you with the V hologram since CYN herself shown herself with uzi in episode 4 in the exact same location as this “”V””
@@thatsnotokaywhat's disassembly required?
Is it in Glitch production channel? Is it the murder drones training video?
4:04 this has nothing to do with the video but that posture creeps tf out of me
what?? i think its so cute, i do it all the time
Erm.. Idk about that. You're cute most of the time tho. @thematriarch-cyn
The Cynessa flashbacks kicking in
Yummers
You know what? Despite the holes that are still left,this theory might be true.
Now I'll have to burn my braincells while I'm thinking about the MD lore and mysteries,again...
4:45 HELP WHAT IS THAT DANCE AND WHERE DID YOU EVEN FOUND THAT 😭
I found the dance on TT and just edited it 💀💀 I don't know where the origins of it are 😭
LMAO
@@thatsnotokayI NEED IT WITHOUT THE TEXT OVERLAY LMAOOOOO
@@Bazoonk337 Kk, I'll post it after school lol
@@thatsnotokaycan I get a link?
Tessa emoting on doll is the most suprising thing i saw in the series
I do believe that V is Cyn's Holograms but I don't believe that the Cynessa body, sound and hand as visual hallucinations tho, I believe it's Cyn herself:
Firstly in episode 3; Spacesuit Tessa arrives with J and now, we all know that Spacesuit Tessa is Cyn so it suits
later in episode 4, when N was searching Uzi and found the zombie drone tape, if you look at the TV when he looks at it too, you see his eyes ( logic ) and others eyes with red glow and yellow glow, like Cynessa ( it's blurry let's be fr it looks like an X for the yellow glow ) at 13:06, in the same scene, on the console we can also notice a hand (like the one we saw in episode 2, with Uzi in episode 4 and way later with Cynessa!) at 12:53 on the down left
Also I think it's fully Cyn because they are in Cabin Fever, let's not forget it was where the humans did experiences on the worker drones ( Nori, Yeva, Alice etc ) with the absolute solver
I suppose Cyn was there to find the key to do all her little things we see her finally do in episode 7 but wasn't able because too risky? too early ? I mean Cyn likes to play as we saw in the last fight so idk
1:04 that's N holding Rebecca with Emily and Darren at the sides of the boat like in the previous scene, that's not V. If it was V then where did N go?
1:44 considering how fast the MD's are 22, seconds is nothing.
2:23 V isn't in a hurry to klll Uzi until Doll is dealt with and wouldn't kill her in front of N (at least until the flesh thing shows up).
3:22 None of these were hallucinations... that was the real Cyn sitting there and then she leaves.
3:33 V while taking Lizzy (as she was also missing with V) to stable ground and most likely noticed Uzi at the window.
4:00 This is more of a confession to the audience for why V does the things she does in front of N, she stays distant from him even pretended to not know who he was in EP1. Also, take note of her eyes here (they have the lines under them like when she sees the flesh thing just less of them), she is most likely feeling guilty when saying this and is concerned when looking toward the bag Uzi was trying to hide from her.
4:14 This is just typical V behavior, she loves climbing things, clinging to walls and ceilings.
4:21 Since there's no other hosts outside the 5 we know, It has to be V. Cyn only has the large claws and those would leave a bigger scratch.
1:04 That is true, I didn't notice if that was V, then N disappeared
1:44 There's no way she's THAT fast considering how far away the building was
2:23 Even if that was the case, she'd be at least mad to see her
3:22 They were hallucinations (or at least holograms), Uzi was looking directly at her and she disappeared
3:33 All that in 22 seconds though?
4:00 I have no idea what you're talking about here
4:14 I didn't say that her climbing was weird, I said going to an upper floor and out of sight was great for a hologram to disappear without suspicion
4:21 Could be Cyn, we did see her at the end of episode 3, but yea, only the DD have those long claws
I did say there were a lot of holes in this theory
@@thatsnotokay For 2:23, if you check the wiki, V can fly a max speed of Mach 1.9 (1,458 MPH) so I'd assume she can get there pretty quick even going relatively slow for herself.
@ducks518 Yeeshums
@ducks518 Never put me in a race against V 💀❌️
1:04 No, N's on the floor, if you look very closely
I think it is V in this scene, since she did scratch her eye and Idk for me I think this would be weird if it's Cyn. But I do believe the worker drone V in episode 7 is not a hologram, just a backup of her, because it is being hold by one of the solvers arms and we all see how she is floating above the ground instead of walking. Why would Cyn make a hologram do such things? Plus her visor color was yellow instead of white which means that backup would be infected with the AS. A Hologram of the old V would probably have white visors, but let me know what you think.
Have a nice day :D
realistic holograms CAN interact with stuff as seen in ep 2 Heartbeat, a worker drone was holding a mug that turns out be a hologram
Yellow is Cyn
The disassembly drones are normal drones modified by Cyn
"Why would Cyn make a hologram do such things?"
She literally made holograms of Khan and then killed him in front of Uzi, yeah sure "Why would Cyn make a hologram do such things?"
the point of that scene is Cyn trying to torment N using a projection of V, if it's really real V then how come she disappears as soon as Cyn break the lantern above?
and, also, just like the other comment has said: holograms are interactable as in episode 2 we see one of the drone try to drink but turns out the mug is hologram
I believe in ep 5, cyn controlled over V when she was shut down. As in error 606, cyn as in the absolute solver probably HAS the ability to take someone's information when infecting them. Making it easier for cyn to impersonate them
I’d say around a year ago, I had noticed this as well. So, Cyn is technically in the cabin. How? Her silhouette on the chair and her hand peaking around the corner. It shows that Cyn is in that cabin and can trick Uzi. Then with V, both her verbal and body language are heavily different from previous episodes. And with V being concerned/scared when she see’s Uzi using her solver, it looks like she’s seeing it for the first time happening to Uzi. And then the people question, how can V’s hologram touch Uzi? Episode 2, at the crime scene, one of the drones picked up a mug but the mug was a hologram. A visual gag turning into such a big piece of evidence heh. But from episodes 1-3, we can see V’s personality change a little. Also, it would make sense that Cyn was over at cabin fever labs as in episode 5, she’s there as well.
I just love how this has gone unnoticed for so long. I’ve mentioned it a few times on livestreams but nobody believed me. Just happy that someone FINALLY noticed and brought this theory into the spotlight.
This theory could be entirely 50/50 Cyn was in there but choose to hide, could be possible to make herself look like V, but going off motive from V to find Doll makes sense she wants to get this done as soon as possible. This just makes everything more fun with story
I agree 100% with you
I think u may have a point, since after episode 3 The Promening J and Tessa arrived on Copper 9. After episode 7 Mass Destruction it was revealed that it was Cyn disguised as Tessa, and in episode 8 Absolute End, after Uzi saved N, Cyn used the call back ping and used alot of hands, just like the one Uzi saw in Cabin Fever. In episode 2 Heartbeat, Eldritch J used the cameras to create illusions. So this theory might be true that V was Cyn when she went to see Uzi in Cabin Fever, if there's anything else i missed pls tell me😊
Murder Drones FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!
Tessa at the end is such a mood
Liam said that the DDs can move so fast to the point that A human would burn just by touching them, N also Can fly to the stratosphere in 3 seconds and that distance is way longer than V and the building
Yea, that's true
I find this theory compelling but purely for behavioral shift of V between the scenes.
The actual physical distance covered by V in a particular time frame is of little consequence in light of the maneuvers we've seen the Murder Drones are capable of in the finale.
At 3:41 You can also see when “v” is with uzi in that building, behind uzi’s head were yellow lights meaning that could be n and v
pretty sure that was just a reflection of V's eyes
You could be right, but i see it more as a reflection of V
The more i look into this the more it makes sense
1:48 Dissasembly Drones have special coding dedicated to finding and hunting down worker drones so V must have seen Uzi with X-ray vision or something
To back this up, at episode 1 (pilot) Uzi was using a broken of mirror glass to get a look at N behind a car and N spotted her even tho she shouldn’t be able to be seen from N’s direction, meaning that he could have X-Ray
i mean we do see cyn in the house
Mhm!
The series is over and the theories are still going, i have nothing other than just respect
by the way uzi was taking her time when v was there looking in her backpack if not then she could have flow but it is possible because we did see cyn/cyessa was there if thats what it’s called but if now it can be also she was in the exact mood of v would act but i do agree how weird it was and how fast v got there and how cyn or cynessa could have tried to kill doll from escaping the planet if not possible
About 4:06 V did pull out her aK and pointed it at Uzi at the end of ep3 where Uzi was catching the bullet with her solver, the reason she wants to kill Uzi is because V is scared of the Solver which you can definitely see in ep8, she is just trying to be scary as a coping mechanism.
Yea, but she was more shocked than anything in episode 3
I'm not sure about the coping mechanism, it could just be she was protecting N
@ idk, V being mean to N definitely was a coping mechanism, pretty sure the same thing happened here. V was scared of the solver hunting them down or just being there again because of the horrors of the solver, she obviously would be trying to eliminate the host of the solver (Uzi) ,,I have to kill you next‘‘ is saying she wants to kill Uzi (because of the solver) but V needs her to find Doll. Being scary is a coping mechanism because V has ‘‘needs‘‘ to kill both so she is in a dilemma.
It could be Cyn, not the one with J, but the one inside Uzi trying to take over her. For that to happen Uzi needs to overheat and Cyn was trying to see how to make it happen, and physiological pressure makes Uzi overheat faster.
You can also see v at 0:27 she is in the pose cyn does with her bottom half legs out
She had the same pose in episode 6
@Goofballh yeah
V is my fav and i think she should get her own show :)
Idk this may not affect the theory at all but in episode 4 V (or possibly the hologram) says
"Better to stay distant though.. etc."
In episode 5 cyn says to tessa
"Best stay away from the gala though"
This could have nothing to do with the theory but i think they sound extremely similar and why would it be similar unless one could possibly be the same person? Idk
The time between when uzi break's the glass and then sees V is 18 seconds and as disassemble drones can fly very very fast which was shown in in episode 1 and that they can hear very well as they were designed to kill things so V would've heard ore seen the glass crack flew over there quickly to see what happened and also the holograms can't physically harm people and it would be hard to hide one of the claws but I understand where you're coming from
1) She could have a hologram over her so she could still do harm (I should've put a better example, my bad)
2) The building was still a decent distance away for her to notice all that AND THEN fly over WITHOUT being seen or heard
@thatsnotokay that's a good point 👍 but if so Cyn didn't achieve much except make uzi hate V more
@maxmclellan8995 Fr 😭
Understandable
I just saw someone who was watching the whole serie recently pointing this out. It's so crazy.
Also is it just me but V looked a bit faded… idk
But the dancing Tessa 😂
A.S:*makes Cyn's hologram pose weirdly*
Cyn:stop it I'm tryimg to work here!!!
THE EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES TESSA DANCE 😂😂😂😂😂
I mean, heres the catch.. The hologram does not act like V at all, it’s quite the opposite as V usually dont bother to do something like this towards Uzi
no?
This is early V we're talking about, she antagonizes Uzi several times in the episode, tries to kill her even after she snaps back to reality, V is actively trying to kill Uzi while being able to justify it
But remember that she didn't started to act like that until she got "surprised" when Uzi got overheated and transformed a thing into a monster @@reinbew62
Ok but seriously, this actually is an amazing theory, YAY... time to question more MD lore and get confused again!
4:45 caught me off guard 😂
REAL
Hi again! I have rewatching epidode 4 and i have something to tell. This theory MAY TAKE A CHANCE TO BE TRUTH because CYNESSA WASNT A VISUAL HALLUCINATION! We have alredy saw tessa in episode 3 and maybe she was alredy talking with doll after ending of episode 3. Doll knew that Uzi will try to find something by herself about solver and followed her to camp. Also doll came to the camp with Tessa-Cynessa, BECAUSE THEY HAD A DEAL-Doll get the bug and Tessa with J taking Doll to the Cabin Fever Laboratory. And after Uzi saw Cynessa, Cynessa change herself to V hollogram and trick Uzi.
Yea, that's entirely possible because I know they were trying to look for the key bug as well, plus they need to kill Uzi because she's a threat to the Solver since she's infected with it, so that's motive
that is N in the scene of 1:08. You can see Rebecca in the boat and the two drones who fell out that were in the frame near N just before
she's no where to be seen in that frame and was last seen in the air, it's probably the real V in the cabin with Uzi
Yea, I realised that lol, but it still wouldn't make sense because V wasn't looking at the window at all, I checked
yea and also it shows cyn in the corner. Plus, in one of the scenes she stands like cyn does, and cyn is known for standing strangely. Plus, she acts super out of character and just makes no sense like look at 4:04 when she standa just how cyn does…
4:46 WGAT IS THIS IM CRY8NG
This actually makes sense but I think that it is V because it matches her behavior❤
1:08 that one is N,not V. He is in the boat with Rebecca. And V isn’t shown in this scene either,so that means she had already left.
1:44 she hadn’t just 22 seconds,she had more time because when the ones holding her boat fell she started flying and then probably saw Uzi on the window of the building. Also,disassembly drones are really fast,and the building wasn’t thaat far away.
I had noticed it was N, yes, but someone else pointed out that V was still in the shot, I don't have time to look for her now, but if you wanna look you can
4:05 another thing is the cyn like pose
This could actually make sense about this theory and there could be actually wrong for this one
1. 3:26 The Episode 4 Camp we see some Foreshadow in there where we saw the first time that cyn was there using Tessa body
Now it's impossible to make noise in there because There is Actually no one in the abandoned building, only Uzi, we can pretty much safe to say that it would be Absolute Solvers where it can warn or make Uzi see things (i think?) And Cyn Was also there too.
Now we can say that Cyn was in there and use her ability of Hologram to interact with Uzi and leave it a scratch to Uzi face
Or
Lets Just say that V has Good Instincts and good hearing where she could Possible heard the window cracking or see the Abandoned Building so She possibly sees Uzi in the window and Uzi not noticing that.
Even mentioned Doll as well and shows a disrespectful attitude over Uzi Face in abandoned buildings So Thats Actually V For sure
Now it should be pretty simple and obvious because most fictional characters does this and i think it could debunked the theory anyways.
Of Course Murder Drones are quite faster enough to get there in Blink of Eyes.
2. 3:01 now its weird, we see V is shocked after seeing this we can tell that V is gonna kill her because Uzi is the Host of Absolute Solvers and its more danger than threat itself (Yes Doll is Absolute Solver but this doesn't mean V could be Hologram by Cyn because she doesn't know about any kinds of stuff, Im sure V is following the ordered after J "Death")
4:17 Now After V Or Hologram One done Interacted with Uzi, now I'm not quite sure why there's no footstep sounds to make some noises After V getting out in there and came back to Lizzy, and she also mentioned N is having new friends with some worker drones. That's V for sure.
4:04 Now People claiming this V doing Cyn Pose, But this is not actually true, there arts cover of Murder Drones Disassemble Require V doing this kind of poses, im pretty sure that was made before The Episode 5 Home. So could be foreshadow anyways.
3:49 another reminder: V’s vision is programmed differently so she can detect multiple targets at once
Why didn't you put this all in one comment? 😭
Cyn does have her ways being sneaky and manipulative not to mention pulling strings where everyone least expects so there might be some bearing to this
This theory could work because in the post credits scene Uzi's hologram is able to interact with stuff so Solver holograms can behave like physical objects
4:04 , weird theory, but i think V/cyn was standing like that because cyn, didn't have proper control of her body, so thats why cyn has V in that position. (i know i can't eplain well :>)
The idea of Cyn pretending to be V for the funsies is the best thing I've heard all day. Though, the dialogue about going to catch Doll is what throws me off since that's something V would know.
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3:26 this is not an hallucination this is literally Cynessa from ep 7 and 8
3:26 look closely and you can see Cyn, and then comes v
3:26 I don't think those were hallucinations. I think that was Cyn actual there. Uzi had never seen Cyn before, so there's no reason for her to see a hallucination of her right there. If anything, Cyn being there increases the possibility of V having been one of Cyn's holograms. The fact that the finale showed that Cyn likes to play with her victims, Cyn could be playing mind games with Uzi here, trying to get her to overheat.
Nah, they just quick traveled
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This could work actually. Since this episode is when we first hear the mention of Cyn. Making this her first appearance (mentioned)
i don't think it's Cyn, sure she always has been on Copper 9 but hiding inside planet's core. I think the holograms in this episode is CynTessa at 3:25 other than that there's nothing to prove V is hologram during that scene
the only time where V is a hologram is in episode 7 where she's in her mansion outfit
But there's also no proof that she isn't a hologram
I'M FEELING CUTE SO I'MMA WRITE WHY I THINK THIS THEORY CANNOT WORK!!
I'm gonna take the comment from @Kirakishou7 and back it up.
1:04 that's N holding Rebecca with Emily and Darren at the sides of the boat like in the previous scene, that's not V. If it was V then where did N go? (Nothing to add more onto that, it's true)
1:44 considering how fast the MD's are 22, seconds is nothing. + Add the fact on the last frame when they fell, V was already in a flying pose, considering dissassembly drones are VERY fast and she was already flying, she just had to dash over there. Seconds are also proven to be nothing as in Episode 8 when Cyn walks in the hallway looking for N and Uzi, they aren't there when we saw them half a second ago. They hid in less than half a second?
2:23 V isn't in a hurry to klll Uzi until Doll is dealt with and wouldn't kill her in front of N (at least until the flesh thing shows up). + Most likely, Uzi is the only thing that is like Doll, so helpig dealing with Doll, that's the reason she wouldn't be in a hurry. + Even if V knew things, i believe she didn't know everything. Since Uzi and Doll didn't show any signs of the solver being related to Cyn / able to be controlled by Cyn. It is most likely V decided it wasn't a hurry / didn't realize the solver was related to Cyn yet. V may know things but she most ilkely didn't knew EVERYTHING. When she saw the solver turning yellow, she realized it was related to Cyn / Cyn had control over them and she HAS to kill Uzi and now it's more of a hurry than what she thought. This can be backed up with the fact before N came in the pod in Episode 2, V said her eye was weird and they should do an autopsy to find out. And V didn't mention Cyn until Uzi was fully under "Cyn" control (Or more just in a crazy state with one of her solver form, but V didn't exactly knew that.)
3:22 None of these were hallucinations... that was the real Cyn sitting there and then she leaves. + I have proof to back up this. Cyn was already here. For the simple reason later on, right before N has flashbacks from the Zombie Drone VHS, he can be seen turning on a non working screen. Before he lit it up if you look closely you can see two "X" looking exactly weirdly enough like Cyn's eyes, starring at him.
3:33 V while taking Lizzy (as she was also missing with V) to stable ground and most likely noticed Uzi at the window. (Nothing have to add on that part)
4:00 This is more of a confession to the audience for why V does the things she does in front of N, she stays distant from him even pretended to not know who he was in EP1. Also, take note of her eyes here (they have the lines under them like when she sees the flesh thing just less of them), she is most likely feeling guilty when saying this and is concerned when looking toward the bag Uzi was trying to hide from her. (
4:14 This is just typical V behavior, she loves climbing things, clinging to walls and ceilings. + This can be backed up at the fact in Episode 1 when we really see V for the first time (out og N talking about her) She is climbing to wall looking at Uzi before landing and saying she kinda wanna practice and play animal balloons shapes with.
4:21 Since there's no other hosts outside the 5 we know, It has to be V. Cyn only has the large claws and those would leave a bigger scratch. + I can't add anything except the fact this one doesn't work as an hologram would do the same scratch since it is seen to be able to interact and mimic everything well to a certain point.
Already responded to this in the original person's comment, thanks for adding on to it though
This theory has so many holes, I was just showing possible evidence because the original person just showed the scene and said "Remember guys this is Cyn, not V. V was outside with N and the campers the entire time" and didn't show anything to back up their reasoning 😭
@@thatsnotokay I KNOWWW I DID THE SAME THING WITH THE COMMENT OF THE OTHER ONE HEHE, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE FUN AND BACK UP THINGS I WANTED TO BACK UP ON
@@midnighteclypsee Lol, that's so real
I honestly don't think Uzi was hallucinating in that episode since the "hallucination" was literally Cyn (Tecyn or Cynessa) and so I think Cyn was just playing and she actually might've changed form into V since as we all seen she can shapeshift (into Tessa, V in the caves and also N in the last episode final fight)
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I wanna focus on the fact that Uzi looked out through the window while V was in the room with her. We don't see if V is at the lake or not, but more importantly Uzi doesn't react. Now she was looking through the window for a short enough time to potentially not notice if V was on the lake, but if the V in the room with her was a hologram she would likely divert Uzi's attention quickly so she doesn't become suspicious of why there are 2 Vs
My god, you might be right... They're trying to hint us with something (what do you guys think, could it be really Cyn?)
Omg finally someone noticed this!!
4:45 the ending got me 😂🔥
It all makes sense now, i thought it was cyn bc she was in the background
2:24 it’s because she just realized Uzi is here, it’s not like she will immediately start spraying a AK-47 at Uzi just because she showed her face
1:04 its N standing next to the boat still holding that girl that I dont remember the name of and v is gone you can also see that lizzy and a couple more workers are not there
Yea, I realised
@@thatsnotokayI think you can also still see V as she’s alone in the boat
@S1LLY_B1SC0UTS I triple checked with paper, there are a lot of drones missing in that scene, including an entire boat
I honesty like and believe this theory bc in the fight Cyn’s hologram hurts them (and nearly kills all three) and the pose she does is Cyn’s pose we see in the show more than once. The clip you showed us where Uzi is confused V is there with her when a min ago she was with others is the same as N where N was with Uzi but V didn’t know it and she saw N.. AARGH LIAM WHY DID YOU EXPLAIN NOTHING AND END THE SHOW?!??!?!!?!? Btw great vid new sub❤
Fr and ty 💖✨
I find this theory pretty interesting plus 4:04 V is even limbing like cyn and plus cyn (in Tessa's skin) arrives at the end of episode 3 with J and we don't see more of that until the end of episode 5 when doll gives her the secret elevator key so either cyn is stalking uzi by pretending to be V pulling the same trick that she did here 4:34 because she left a mark on uzis visor or idk maybe something else and maybe... Uzi wasn't hallucinating here... 3:20 maybe it was cyn trying to make uzi think it was a hallucination and not real...
Honestly same, that's why I made this video lol
@@thatsnotokay yeah also i added some evidence maybe to back up this theory of yours hope it rings a bell :D
@@MrboldBlack2 Yea, thanks for adding
I was wonder too why V wanted to kill her only for that moment with no reasons
So thank you, this theory makes sense
STOP THE TESSA DANCE AT THE END-
There's also backup to this theory bc when uzi enters the cabin,u see cynessa for a few seconds then she disappears only for v to appear a few seconds later.
Well I can help because I’ve seen enough to tell
V seemed worried that Uzi changed that arrow into a mutated whatever that is and then either in another episode or in that one she spoke like (fr I don’t remember the exact thing she said but it was on the lines of) “didn’t think I wouldn’t know right cyn?”
So for all we know in episode one that black hole that escaped from J’s core could have rebuilt itself and still is to this day
Good theory, but holograms must not hurt or interact physically with objects, since this is just a 3D space information, well it not must interact with anything physically, unless it is some god level hologram.
V doing Cyn pose, more likely she is a bit going crazy, or just beeing silly, if Cyn took over V, on her screen can be showed symbols of absolute solver and other paranormal stuff. Like uzi.
Probably V knew where Uzi is, idk how, maybe these robots are more advanced than we thought.
Have a nice day everyone
In episode 2, the WD at the crime scene was holding a hologram cup and didn't realise until it disappeared, plus, like in the example I put, Cyn masked herself to look like N by using a hologram
Or an even better example of that (that I should've used instead) was when Cyn hologramed herself into N to make it look like Uzi stabbed N
So Cyn uses really advanced holograms, but what if the objects they hold are holograms too?
@@Water_H2O_118 not sure
@@thatsnotokay So we can't say if physical objects were holograms or not, I mean other hologram robots held them, like they were real, well idk.
Also I like the series "Murder Drones" it is really good, but also I want to create a horror series that will look like "Murder Drones" series, but really so different.
Well anyways, was really interesting talking with you.
@@Water_H2O_118 Well it was an actual hologram, rewatch episode 2, it disappears from her hand when she's about to drink it
Interesting theory, good thoughts, but I don’t think this adds up.
First, if you pause this video at 1:05 there are several drones you can make out, only two visors are obviously visible: N and probably Thad. We can definitely tell that the drone you claim as V is actually N, you can pretty obviously make out his hat and the silhouette of Rebecca very close to him. If this was V, we’d probably be able to see the lights of her headband. You can also tell that the other figure is probably Thad because the visor appears to be more green than yellow.
Second, the fallen drones are scattered around N’s boat. Meanwhile, V’s boat is already flipped over and Thad is sitting in it. It seems there was possibly a slight skip in time between V’s boat flipping over and Uzi staring out the window: which explains how V could’ve had enough time to sneak up on Uzi.
It is definitely suspicious that we see that human hand right before V pops up, but it could’ve also been foreshadowing. There’s a decent amount of evidence for it being influenced by Cyn, but there’s also a decent amount of evidence for it being the real V.
As to V’s behavior, it’s really not out of character for her to threaten Uzi’s life. She’s already threatened her before in the prom episode simply for being a worker drone that is threatening her relationship with N. Remember, at this point in the story, V is still in her “crazy” persona. Getting rid of Uzi just allows her to have more influence over N.
V’s attitude instantly shifts upon seeing Uzi create organic matter-something she’s only ever seen Cyn possess. She actually straight up calls her “Cyn” in this episode, which leads me to believe that she believes Uzi is nothing but a disguise. Uzi went from being a threat to her relationship with N, to a physical threat to their lives. That’s why her attitude shifts, that’s why she drops the crazy act, and that’s why she becomes serious out of nowhere.
Really cool theory though, love the creative thinking.
First thing you mentioned is in the pinned comment, also V and N both have similar hats
Wow, I never realized that. Maybe you're right. Because if not, she flies really fast or teleports🤡
Damn this opened my eyes I never thought of that
Gud vid 👍
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V is actually still in frame y’all. The one the video pointed out it N. She is sitting on the ground next to the Canoe. You can tell by her large hat. You can also see the glowing of her tail, it is a larger white dot than the rest of the window texture, and is a little more glowy. You can see the faint outline of the spike and the tail itself. Better yet, she is looking no where near the window, and is straight up relaxing on the ground.
Uzi was watching the window for much longer, and if V left while she was looking out the window she would notice. I think the” weren’t you just” is very suspicious as well.
Definitely not 100%, but this could be true.
Yea I noticed that too because I still saw a drone with a hat similar to V and N was holding Rebecca
I should've been more observant with that, but I honestly didn't expect for this video to get as popular as it did
I might add that V is still in the shot in the pinned comment if I think it's believable enough when I get home (I'll credit you)
I don't see V there, just the "final girl", V and Lizzy are missing there
@@exter_princel2376 Yea, I double checked, their boat is missing too
Right there you can see cyn's hair and kinda her body 3:21
My heart sank
i think im the only one who noticed that snow world from yume nikki was playing in the background LOL 😂
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I LITERALLY MAKE THEORY VIDEOS ALL ABOUT MD/TADC MOSTLY MD AND I DIDNT NOTICE THIS??? :( Love the theory btw!
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wtf? this is good theory
Honestly I always thought V acted really weird in these scenes....
I don't really think this is true, but here are my thoughts that nobody asked for:
Keep in mind that V also wanted to kill Uzi in The Promening when Uzi caught the bullet Doll fired using the solver. Pay attention to who she points her gun hand at when Uzi uses the solver. I just don't think V believes that it's Cyn until Uzi transforms the arrow into that fleshy monster thing. "Since I'll have to kill you next" does make sense given what N and V are, and also noting that V and J were promised "You do your job, and I'll leave you and N alone" by Cyn.
I also don't think Uzi hallucinated seeing Cyn in Cabin Fever, though it doesn't make sense how the body disappears while Uzi is looking at it. There's a chance that Cyn just caused a glitch in Uzi's vision (hence the static shown for a split second) so that Uzi would pass it off as just a hallucination even though it was actually true... but it doesn't make much sense for why Cyn would want to be seen there in the first place, only to disappear before Uzi actually realised what she was looking at. Same with the hand and the "sound hallucination". I think Cyn was actually there too, looking for the Keybug that Uzi accidentally gets to first. That then later makes sense with how Doll knows to look for the keybug by going to Uzi, as Doll would've been told by Tessa which we later find out to also be Cyn... and Doll wasn't there, so there's no way that Doll could've known otherwise.
If that is a hologram of V in the cabin though... why? What purpose would Cyn have to threaten Uzi as V here? The two ended up acting like they don't like each other anyway, it didn't make any difference to Uzi at all.
Also with the obligatory "at 1:04, that's N." While there is no other yellow visor that we can see, it also doesn't make sense with how Uzi doesn't seem to react to V leaving, as she would have had to have left while she was looking. Besides, let's say you were right and that *is* V. She's already flying at 0:51 and you can even see her looking around for a split second before the camera switches away.
Also remember that they're disassembly drones, built specifically to murder all the worker drones. It would make sense that they are good at spotting workers even in hiding (thermal vision, higher sensitivity to sound, etc... they're futuristic robots, why wouldn't they spot even the slightest of discrepancies?) as it is literally a survival instinct to them to prevent overheating and dying from lack of oil. (as N says in the pilot, and also as V says herself in The Promening with "If you free me now, I promise we'll only kill what we need to survive.")
Even if 22 seconds is correct for how long Uzi wasn't looking for, remember that they can fly pretty fast and the building isn't really *that* far away. Look at Episode 7 with how fast J is flying when she gets to the ship, or how fast J and V are both flying while fighting each other in Episode 8.
There are two ways that Cyn could've hurt Uzi with the "hologram" if that was her. She could've used the hologram to hide that it's actually her and just make it look like V doing it so that Cyn could test Uzi's control over the solver with how she repairs herself seconds after she "leaves" but she also could've actually done that with the hologram as it seems that some holograms have physical properties, as you mention in the pinned comment of that one worker "holding" a holographic cup in Episode 2. (either way, I believe Uzi would've been able to tell that something else was up with the damage on her Visor from that in particular while she repaired it.)
The holograms are also shown to be very limited in range, so for Uzi to not be able to see V through the window while talking to what is claimed to be a hologram, Cyn would need to be in two places with the hologram capabilities at once just to stop Uzi from noticing that there are "two Vs." This isn't completely implausible though as it would explain how Lizzie disappears too instead of just V as per the pinned comment, and also with Episode 7 where we can see Cyn using the holographic stuff while controlling Nori.
I asked for your thoughts, so thank you
I did notice that V pointed at Uzi with her gun in ep 3, but she wasn't super threatening to her, just surprised
I don't have any thoughts for this one
Cyn wants Uzi dead because she poses a threat to her
It's been confirmed that it's N there, not V, I double checked, but Lizzy and the boat they were in are missing, not just V, which is weird, and I agree, Uzi not having any reaction is a bit odd. V never looked at the window, she was looking down too much to be looking at the building
That's true, but the building was quite a distance away still, I would get it if it was closer, but since she isn't even looking towards the window. It just doesn't make sense
Yea, they are fast, but how would V fly that fast without going unnoticed because when J was flying really fast in ep 1, she made a loud noise when she landed
I agree with this, and the first way you said wouldn't surprise me, and she probably would notice something's up, but she has been tricked by holograms before. Take Cyn turning into N right before Uzi stabbed her for instance
It's possible V and Lizzy went off on their own, hence why the boat is missing, but I don't see why they would do that, but they are friends, so it wouldn't be completely unbelievable. So when V left Uzi might've thought nothing of it (again, weird of the little-to-no reaction) and that's why when the hologram showed up-if it was a hologram-Uzi didn't think much of it. Cyn making a hologram to make it look like V wasn't there would make a little sense, she could just put a hologram over the window, but I don't get why she would make Lizzy and their boat disappear either
i think V threatened Uzi because she knows what Cyn is capable of : controlling Uzi, as Cyn said to V in ep 8 : "You do your job and i leave you and N alone" And V says to N in Ep 4 "we do our jobs and that THING leaves us alone"
V wasnt doing her job, kill solver host and worker drones in general too. So Cyn controlled Uzi and gave her a little reminder.
V just wants to protect N from Cyn.
When she said "better to stay distant though" she probably meant it as "stay away from N"
And as you mentioned, holograms cannot leave physical evidences since they're... well... holograms.
Thats just my own vision of things. Its still an interresting theory!
That's true as well, I completely forgot about that line in episode 4 lol
Also, in episode 2 a WD was holding a holographic cup, and a Cyn hologram in episode 7 hugged N
True, honestly its a bunch of plot holes
@pandaexe-ox7cg Yea, that's what I said in the beginning
1:04 It is N because we can see rebecca next to the boat. And also there is a strange detail that 1 boat and a few drones dissapered on minute 5:08 and 5:38 of the original episode 4.
I don’t think Cynessa was a hallucination? She was on earth already since the end of episode 3. Also, it would be really weird to hallucinate Cyntessa exactly without even knowing about Cyn or Tessa.
I was saying that Cyn was making Uzi hallucinate by making her see her
Uzi looks out the window when V is in the room with her…she should’ve seen the other V outside. But idk maybe the group of campers went off to another part of the frozen lake..out of uzis sight 😮
1:08 I don't wanna be that person but I'm pretty sure this is N and not V... bc if u look closely, u can see Emily in the back on the ice (checking by her pigtails) and the figure is standing which N was doing a sec ago. U can also see Emily on the ice at 0:59 and a different worker (forgot his name) at 1:03 who was getting up and going back to the first pinned scene (1:08) there is another worker on the ice and if it was N standing up, he would've still been in the same position, holding up Rebecca.
(No hate towards u, this is my pov of what happened, but i like this theory :D)
Yea, I realised that after I put it out lol, I put it in my pinned comment, but it still wouldn't make sense because V wasn't looking towards Uzi at all
Wow jusy wow i didnt know that V was outsite over to the lake and V pop out inside this cabin middle of nowhere and- wait let me guess Cyn uses a hologram to pretend to be V, right?
So episode 4 is entirely built around Uzi tripping out with her own emotions and senses. It seems appropriate.
Lol real
4:08 Cyn had to kill Uzi since she had the solver and that was why she made the disassembly drones so that helps this theory
That's true as well, thanks for pointing that out
the weird core music makes it scary
v is in financial debt
WHAT? 💀💀💀
@ she spent all the company’s savings on lottery ticket and the most she got was a cat styled pen and an eraser (erasers don’t work on pens)
@@plastercyn oh 💀
Now that you say this it kinda makes sense.
Horror fact:If you go at ep 4,Where Uzi Turn on her flashlight,you can see CYN standing like a statue(We had Her appearance and we didn't know)
Like in the scene I showed, or was she just standing there when Uzi entered the building?
@@thatsnotokay I think is the scene where you showed(and also where Uzi got scared because of the hand(it was CYN) )
@@HikazeUtakori2000 Ah
It could be, just because is weird that V acts like that to Uzi, not bc she cannot act like that, it's weird bc she was pretty "fine" with Uzi.
Still, can be V just acting like that to hurry up Uzi, but Cyn was observing Uzi and V in the episode so, it could be her, the problem is, why? Why Cyn would do this? XD
She likes playing with her victims
it's definitely an interesting theory, but I don't believe it. Remember, DDs are extermely fast and can fly anywhere in pretty much seconds. V heard the window breaking for sure, and she already knows that Uzi can accidentally break windows with her Solver, as she notices it in episode 2. Also that's N at 1:04
and as for "V sitting there like nothing happened", V says "Better to stay distant though, don't ya think?", of course she will not say anything about that encounter.
FINAL edit I promise, V does have a reason. Cyn's orders. She was trying to kill Uzi, because she needs to. "We do our job and that thing leaves us alone!", says V to N, and J in episode 8. Cyn also repeats this in episode 8, is Cyn watching them? Maybe. Since she appeared in front of Uzi (yes, she does actually appear. Cyn already made it to Copper-09 at this point.)
For the 1:04, I did realise that and put it in the pinned comment
True, but when Uzi sneaks up, she doesn't look like she just talked to her in such a sadistic way
Yes, but she didn't know Cyn was on Copper-9, nor that she NEEDED Uzi killed, and she's trying to mess with Cyn's plan too, we can see that in episode 6 when she says "Anything to screw with Cyn's plan"
There is a lot of convincing evidence (well done btw for finding all of it). But I just don’t see and reason for it to be cyn like nothing is happening or happened. But ya never know. ❤
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