10 MASSIVE Class Changes from Classic to TBC

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • Today, let's go over some of the biggest class/ meta changes in TBC!
    There are so many to cover - many of which you guys mentioned after my last "changes vid" in TBC - here are 10 more!
    Enjoy!
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Комментарии • 380

  • @tkell31
    @tkell31 3 года назад +47

    Jumped on classic a little late, then gave it up, but came back after some RUclips videos. Made the mistake of trying a "low pop" server. Low pop must be code for "dead." I finally gave up that realm when one day I realized I was the only person in Stormwind, there was no one in Darnassus, and one person in Ironforge. I didn't log out for good before declaring myself the King of Stormwind in chat and challenging the player in IF to fight for the right to be King of the realm. He did make the trip down, but only to bow before me and log out. So I guess my worst experience was also my best. How many people can say they were king of a realm? At least on Alliance's side.

    • @FirstLast-gk6lg
      @FirstLast-gk6lg 3 года назад +1

      hope you got the AGM before you transferred out of the empty server

  • @quegh2477
    @quegh2477 4 года назад +43

    Patch 2.1.2: Druids in Swift Flight form can no longer loot herb nodes.
    Patch: 2.2.0 you can again herb in both flight forms. You must now be "landed" on the ground in order to do it however.

    • @LousyZoot
      @LousyZoot 3 года назад

      thank you, wille gave me a heart attack there

  • @Meltman1000
    @Meltman1000 4 года назад +11

    Man I remember the first time I saw a druid in flight form. I (a warlock) asked him so many questions and and was shock about the fact you could jump in and out of flight form mid air. Then he show me and I was Speechless

  • @bass-dc9175
    @bass-dc9175 4 года назад +50

    "Ritual of refreshment"
    Honestly, I prefere the german name for that spell. It is called "Tischlein Deck Dich" which translates to "Table, deck yourself".
    A reference to the fairytale "The Wishing Table, the Gold-Ass, and the Cudgel in the Sack". One of the characters has a magic Table, which whenever he says "Table, Deck Yourself" decks itself with the finest food and wine.

    • @deadweight_gol
      @deadweight_gol 4 года назад +1

      It was one of my favorite tales when I was a kid.

  • @kingarthur20
    @kingarthur20 4 года назад +147

    You should definetly mention one biggie: Tiersets can be chosen according to your spec

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  4 года назад +81

      Hybrid classes actually arent healers only. Imagine that

    • @SkarrGaming
      @SkarrGaming 4 года назад +3

      @@WillEmmo As someone who plays a shadow priest and a feral dps druid, this is very good!

    • @DoubtedPumpkin
      @DoubtedPumpkin 4 года назад +1

      TriksterHD and yet, most bis gear is not tier gear

    • @eskomitrunen2601
      @eskomitrunen2601 3 года назад

      Is classic wow getting an expansion to TBC?

    • @drunkyucko
      @drunkyucko 3 года назад

      @@eskomitrunen2601 Its not confirmed but most people think so.

  • @Drain_Life_Archive
    @Drain_Life_Archive 3 года назад +1

    I would have mentioned the new dispel resistant talents. In classic, nothing has any dispel protection. This is a huge problem when your class depends upon buffs or debuffs and they are effortlessly stripped off without any way to stop it. Blizzard finally decided to help in BC because now there are dispel resist talents everywhere.
    Priest: 20%, +65% from pain suppression. The buff stacks with talents so you can almost obtain immunity.
    Druid: 30%.
    Paladin: 30% for any healer/tank. Retribution can get 100% for seals.
    Hunter: 30% for stings.
    Warlock: 40% in affliction, on top of a backlash from unstable affliction. G G.

  • @Mixwell1983
    @Mixwell1983 4 года назад +27

    Shaman got a nice overhaul in TBC.. Dual wielding and one of my favs when i roll resto was earthshield.. Soo unkillable.. Haha

    • @snattlerake8337
      @snattlerake8337 3 года назад +1

      IMO both Druid and Priest are better healers in arenas at least.

  • @uncledalgo1193
    @uncledalgo1193 4 года назад +11

    "Willie here" The gnome apearence 🤣.
    Willie always with knowledge content.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @rufipufi
    @rufipufi 4 года назад +12

    enhancement shaman took a total rework into TBC, going from "hope my windfury procs and i crit a lot and one shot someone with this 2hander" to fast phased duel wield stable dps

    • @joelswatten9611
      @joelswatten9611 4 года назад +3

      Yet you could still rock a 2hander in pvp and hope for the procs to devastate some poor fool 🤣🤣

    • @GaneicMehiro
      @GaneicMehiro 3 года назад

      I think the most weird fact in Retail is that Daggers don't count as melee weapons for shamans so while you can wield them you can't use your abilities with daggers as a Ench.

    • @syys5640
      @syys5640 3 года назад

      who tf uses windfury in pvp lol

  • @StrikerOne2007
    @StrikerOne2007 4 года назад +5

    i love that intro with the gnome head

  • @hshaughnessy17
    @hshaughnessy17 4 года назад +2

    I played a druid in TBC and the one change that was game changing for druids was shadowmeld being able to be cast in combat. With instant flight form you could macro shadowmeld into flight form and you could get away from any ganker.

    • @ZanathKariashi
      @ZanathKariashi 4 года назад

      that was a wrath change (when the 3.0.1 patch dropped). Shadowmeld throughout TBC was exactly the same as Vanilla.

    • @Mixwell1983
      @Mixwell1983 4 года назад

      I am playing a ne warrior on a private cata server and the shadowmeld in combat works on it. I do remember shadowmeld to flight form when I played tbc or cata? Cant remember but i remember using it.

    • @niklass1641
      @niklass1641 4 года назад

      Ah yes... the druid "escape hatch". Nothing I loved more than suddenly launching into the air 2 seconds into a gank while the other player stood there helplessly as I blow them a kiss. It was a wrath thing though so we'll have to wait for those days.

  • @michaelac7320
    @michaelac7320 4 года назад

    Please do 10 more! I played bc but didn't hit 70 nor was i the kind of player who even knew what was going on with patch notes, class balance etc haha. I remember watching hours and hours and hours of Classic info and guides and content before the game even came out so I had a lot of info which ended up being really useful when Classic wow actually was released. So really enjoying all this tbc content! Thanks

  • @4mmsm
    @4mmsm 4 года назад +49

    Not directly related to the topic at hand but I’ve recently started playing a game of guessing where will your face appear when you say your greeting. My score is not going fantastic though.

  • @Permuh
    @Permuh 3 года назад

    Weapon skill was still there, if I remember correctly. I explicitly remember an achievement in wotlk, leveling your unarmed skill to max being called "did someone order a knuckle sandwich" or something like that. If I remember correctly again, expertise was about decreasing the chance to having attacks getting dodged/parried

    • @robertlemmon3936
      @robertlemmon3936 3 года назад

      He said it was still there.. just not as important.

  • @Toyhouze
    @Toyhouze 4 года назад +11

    Amazing video as always WillE! You inspired me to make my own youtube channel about WoW videos. Looking forward to more TBC content!

  • @s7Darkmaster
    @s7Darkmaster 4 года назад +3

    Keep the TBC content coming. Shit is straight serotonin.

  • @Ryan_hey
    @Ryan_hey 4 года назад +4

    More classic to tbc change videos! Great vod

  • @Ras548
    @Ras548 4 года назад +8

    In my opinion the biggest thing is spellsteal for mages. With its introduction some of the buffs you could steal could make you into a little raid boss and blizz would often quick-hotfix some buffs to make them unstealable.
    The most famous on top of my head is from wrath where mages could steal a buff that let them solo all 4 wings of naxx. This was quickfixed so that the buff is unstealable and mobs could no longer leave their wing and enter the lobby.
    m.ruclips.net/video/S_ggLGj37qI/видео.html

    • @adriansmith5241
      @adriansmith5241 3 года назад

      ah yes as a paladin i remember getting my wings stolen lol

  • @washedupazir2873
    @washedupazir2873 4 года назад +8

    You’re content is gold, please don’t stop uploading vids on yt. You’re really good at it!

  • @jamescotterill352
    @jamescotterill352 4 года назад +5

    The nerf from 12 seconds to 10 seconds on polymorph was what lead to Pepitoz's wife dying, and Pepitoz trying to sell cats for MSK, and eventually dying in the cold in Dun Morogh, we must stop blizzard from making the change this time around so history doesn't repeat itself. :O (i hope someone gets the reference from some of the greatest early wow videos) :p

  • @boliver30
    @boliver30 3 года назад

    At the time of the ZA patch, the paladin buffs were meant to make them more on-par with other classes, as there were very few niche roles which they were excelling in at the time... especially in PVP

  • @chaoticneutral1090
    @chaoticneutral1090 4 года назад +7

    Well frick, I just wanna play tbc right away now, that was so many cool changes

    • @doncorleone1720
      @doncorleone1720 4 года назад +4

      Wotlk is better

    • @chronicdanklin
      @chronicdanklin 4 года назад +2

      @@doncorleone1720 hell no

    • @stevejeffrey11
      @stevejeffrey11 4 года назад +1

      @@chronicdanklin wotlk>tbc

    • @doncorleone1720
      @doncorleone1720 4 года назад

      @@chronicdanklin why not? go play tbc and u will see...

    • @pjrotsaert2832
      @pjrotsaert2832 4 года назад +1

      @@stevejeffrey11
      You mean you think that the expansion that introduced: welfare epics, ezmode heroics that make raids obsolete, heirlooms, Dungeon Finder, started class homogenization, started the dumbing down of items so that you only look at ilvl (gearscore back then), and had 2 utter shit raid tiers is better than TBC?
      Is this an out-of-season aprils fools joke?
      Bruh, I dunno if you've ever played wotlk on a private server, but it does NOT hold up nearly as well as classic and BC do. The only good things about wotlk were the lore, the zones and arguably achievements.

  • @qwertyui90qwertyui90
    @qwertyui90qwertyui90 4 года назад +8

    Any chance of a hunter video on hunters from vanilla to TBC, and also hunter pet video that goes in depth on TBC hunter pets please.

  • @berner
    @berner 3 года назад

    So the game's gonna be 20 years old soon and I think the big event that Blizzard should run for it needs to be: Every race in the game becomes playable for 1 full week.
    I would be Ragnaros and I'd be a healer. Ragnaros the healer.
    What would your race be and what class would you pick?

  • @dubious6718
    @dubious6718 4 года назад +2

    Looking forward to TBC as I'm already thinking about a break from Classic cause of all the resist gear and pot requirements in raids

    • @ShoahBiz
      @ShoahBiz 4 года назад +2

      Why wait when you can play karazhan. It’s only two weeks old and x2 xp 1-58 x1 58-70 with 5k people online most times. Also has 45/55 alli horde population

    • @pwnsyou82
      @pwnsyou82 4 года назад

      Did you not know about the resistancd gear requirements?

    • @dubious6718
      @dubious6718 4 года назад

      @@pwnsyou82 I have 315 Shadow res as I'km tanking twins, but I didn't think about NR gear

    • @pwnsyou82
      @pwnsyou82 4 года назад

      @@dubious6718 Oooh yeah that sucks. Especially with all the bag space needed

  • @DemonPrincessNyri
    @DemonPrincessNyri 4 года назад +22

    Ah yes my fave night elf faced man

  • @TurboNemesis
    @TurboNemesis 3 года назад

    I'm a world where WOTLK happened, you cant honestly say any paladin changes in TBC were huge. Nothing will ever compare to the massive glowup they received in the 3.0 prepatch.

  • @saiyan_princestudios9790
    @saiyan_princestudios9790 4 года назад +1

    The best part about tbc... shadow priest changes! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @brucesamuelson7337
    @brucesamuelson7337 3 года назад +3

    @wille As a druid in classic/bc/wotlk the druid swift flight form did not require epic flying to start the quest. It works like the pally/warlock epic mounts where it's an expensive quest line, but less than paying for epic flying.
    Edit: you don't get epic flying but epic form doesn't require it. You still have to pay the 5k to learn how fly any other mount like the nether drakes

    • @deflol
      @deflol 3 года назад

      yea no, you're wrong. swift flying quest requires the 5k gold riding skill.
      the only way to go zoom zoom in tbc without having to buy the most expensive riding skill is becoming a gladiator.

  • @fadedtimes
    @fadedtimes 4 года назад +1

    I don't see how TBC classic can pick a single patch to release as. It's like it will need to be 2.4, but with certain changes coming in phases. For example 2.4 removed the attunement for BT and Hyjal, that can't happen until sunwell is released in the final phase.

    • @holysecret2
      @holysecret2 3 года назад

      I hate that they started removing attunements in the first place, it makes these raids and places feel less special. It should be an achievement in itself reaching them.

  • @Destrudo115
    @Destrudo115 4 года назад +2

    Paladin aoe farming plus bloodelf spec. Loving it

    • @adriansmith5241
      @adriansmith5241 3 года назад

      the trinkit from heroic shat halls is so op for prot pally, could lit pull 200 mobs outside black temple then pop trinkit and watch your hp fill back up

  • @meanieangrysson5366
    @meanieangrysson5366 4 года назад +49

    You could read me a bedtime story every night

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  4 года назад +8

    • @ggEmolicious
      @ggEmolicious 4 года назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing too, I want to listen to audio books with WillE reading them.

  • @Magikk
    @Magikk 4 года назад +1

    the dmg threshhold to break fear gets massively smaller at some point. Where shadow bolt basically is 100% chance to break fear

  • @AMVsAnimeMachina
    @AMVsAnimeMachina 4 года назад +2

    Do more of those videos please.Man TBC cant come soon enough lol

  • @FirstLast-gk6lg
    @FirstLast-gk6lg 4 года назад +1

    Melee leeway in Classic is the biggest ranged DPS nerf of all time.

  • @dwarfminerwillie
    @dwarfminerwillie 2 года назад

    Hey WillE Can we get a video like this for WoTLK? or maybe the class changes videos for wotlk? I play enhance shaman right now and enjoy it but I've been told the spec gets worse and I'm not sure if I should switch classes when the next expansion.

  • @Stompinwind
    @Stompinwind 3 года назад +1

    Assuming they release on the last patch they wont get half the players they will get if they dont... like I dont want summons in instances in tbc til after t6 is out

  • @zuklar
    @zuklar 4 года назад +1

    Shamans are more well-rounded with +hit talents in all their trees as well as a way to self-sustain your mana in all the trees.

    • @JollyKappa
      @JollyKappa 4 года назад +1

      Going enh Resto can get you 9% hit! Really nice when you need 22% as melee and 25 expertise

  • @jam7661
    @jam7661 4 года назад +2

    Please make a changes in consumables/engineering video for tbc!

  • @BarokaiRein
    @BarokaiRein 3 года назад

    The biggest change is that every spec is actually playable in all content. So yeah,you can pve as elemental shaman for example and actually do well and not just go OOM 5 minutes before the boss even dies.

  • @ManabiscuitEU
    @ManabiscuitEU 4 года назад +18

    Even as an Alliance Player This GNome Face is just Stuff of my Nightmares :/

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  4 года назад +3

      Hes just happy to see you :)

    • @Tazy004
      @Tazy004 4 года назад

      I love the gnome face ! My only regret in classic is not rolling gnome .

  • @factbeaglesarebest
    @factbeaglesarebest 4 года назад +5

    Vanilla/classic is great for nostalgia but BC was BETTER in every way. Pre cata wow kept the challenge and RPG elements of vanilla but improved the game

    • @rickybindahoose6193
      @rickybindahoose6193 4 года назад +1

      Yeah true. But I'd say at least half way through Wrath was where the cracks started to show..

    • @janakipejov3667
      @janakipejov3667 4 года назад

      Eeehhh

    • @Daisudori
      @Daisudori 3 года назад

      "challenge"

  • @nikola4107
    @nikola4107 4 года назад

    DID YOU REALLY THINK THAT AM NOT GONNA FINISH WATCHING THIS VIDEO? HA ? HA ? WILLY? I've came to see Billy 2 weeks ago, and here i am now to finish whole video..

  • @MyTomServo
    @MyTomServo 4 года назад +2

    Priest racial rework and getting fear ward on all races.
    My choice of night elf priest is finally vindicated lol

    • @failix4936
      @failix4936 4 года назад

      i played female nightelf warrior in classic and toping the meters , cause all the human ones are backpaddeling and clicking ;D for me optic is more important than some % more power :)

    • @Mixwell1983
      @Mixwell1983 4 года назад

      My alt in vanilla was a NE priest haha. My main was a rogue on a high pop pvp server and I just had to have shadowmeld then. I didnt raid in my alt just pvp mainly so I didnt care as much about racials.

    • @MyTomServo
      @MyTomServo 4 года назад

      @@Mixwell1983 Thus far being a night elf is arguably a benefit as a shadow priest because things in BWL have vulnerabilities and starshards lets you do damage on arcane vulnerabilities.
      If memory serves Ossiran also has one of these, but I don't think much else will benefit from this lol.

  • @anthonyhumpage7290
    @anthonyhumpage7290 4 года назад +1

    I think your sources might be a little off, you could always loot herbs in flight form they just made it so you had to "land" to be able to do it. Same with skinning

    • @holysecret2
      @holysecret2 3 года назад

      @Jonny Croxville Aren't you mixing up the first two steps? Right now in classic, you can herb when shapeshifted, and I think that holds true for flight form at the start of TBC. When they realized it's broken since you can completely avoid mobs on the ground, they removed it, and finally balancing it so you can herb when shapeshifted again, but have to on the ground (thus cannot avoid combat unlike other classes). This progression would make more sense I think

  • @coomercommander2554
    @coomercommander2554 4 года назад

    The only noticeable change you need is that the game will actually become fun and require some iq to be good at, not just right click and afk for win, and pvp actually getting skill content which is also fun, arenas, lets not even begin of raids having actual mechanics

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 года назад

      @Jonny Croxville Maybe at 1700...

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 года назад

      @Jonny Croxville Yea at 1700 that is exactly how the game works, what are these macros that automate your play at higher ranks?

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 года назад

      @Jonny Croxville It's a low rating that implies doing what you said only works if you are awful at the game and want to keep being awful, has nothing to do with my rating.

  • @nickmarinos3602
    @nickmarinos3602 4 года назад +2

    In TBC Protection Paladin is coming to save the day

    • @adriansmith5241
      @adriansmith5241 3 года назад

      @Mitch White due to the amount of gear with spellpower in tbc, they change paladin agro from spellpower to attack power in a patch to prepare for wotlk, this is when I quit play retail wow.

    • @adriansmith5241
      @adriansmith5241 3 года назад

      @Mitch White that patch actually did brake paladins they had to rush out a nurf but it totally changed the paladin playstyle and yea did feel like character's time was wasted had gotten my spell power to 2k I think and was doing alot of damage and threat.

  • @Sakkura1
    @Sakkura1 4 года назад +1

    What about the nerf to downranking? Completely changed healing. Or making pets scale with player stats. Or rage normalization for warriors.

  • @SycosenMerihem
    @SycosenMerihem 4 года назад

    I wonder how much of Echoes of Doom will Empower Ret this time. Ret went through many iterations during Wrath so it should be a massive gain.

  • @Seethie
    @Seethie 4 года назад +7

    I think a big one you missed was the hunter deadzone change.

    • @sedlinasera3891
      @sedlinasera3891 4 года назад +1

      he already covered it in the prev tbc changes clip (I was wondering about that too - since it was such a massive dps boost it would have easily been the most impactful change for pve raiding)

    • @Seethie
      @Seethie 4 года назад

      @@sedlinasera3891 Sorry i must've missed that then, thanks for pointing it out. Will be interesting to see if weaving is still a thing come that change.

    • @sedlinasera3891
      @sedlinasera3891 4 года назад

      @@Seethie if anything it was the time where it was the most common (and with that said it was still rare)
      The major point in favor is that the difficulty to execute had dropped from 99 to basically 0. One sidestep was all it took to swap from range to melee - and yet there were plenty of people who were stuck on BM despite all its shortcomings who never even tried it :)
      Then the Wotlk talents killed it by giving every one of the three specs a reason to spam a filler ability. (not to mention that they've freed auto shot to no longer get delayed/ interrupted by hunter shots)

  • @TheDumbGorilla
    @TheDumbGorilla 4 года назад +6

    Could you do a video on tanking meta in TBC? Fury/Prot isn't a thing in TBC and druids/paladins get a stronger niche in the raid tanking meta.

    • @MrGlennJohnsen
      @MrGlennJohnsen 4 года назад +3

      Tanking Paladins isn't just a niche, they're legitimately good main tanks for all encounters apart from maybe encounters that have mechanics that tanks want to use a defensive cooldown for.

    • @jasonhamm3370
      @jasonhamm3370 4 года назад

      Just google it

    • @Cynsham
      @Cynsham 4 года назад +2

      Druids are better tanks than warriors in like late t5, t6 iirc

    • @Popes94
      @Popes94 4 года назад

      It's basically warrior - best single target tank, paladin - best aoe tank, druid - best off tank - good enough for most encounters, but not as good as the other two at their respective jobs. The main thing about druids is that even in tanking spec they can still deal decent dps if only 1 tank is needed for an encounter.

    • @keirbourne4589
      @keirbourne4589 4 года назад

      I wouldn't discount fury prot. It wasn't a thing in vanilla either.

  • @efstopp
    @efstopp 4 года назад

    RIP Swirly Ball. You are missed, by Rogues and nobody else.

  • @sebastianlavallee706
    @sebastianlavallee706 4 года назад

    So I don't quite remember the impact of any particular TBC patch before the pre-WotLK faceroll patch. How important is it going to be for game difficulty that we start on the last patch? Classic showed us what it meant for gear & specs to be far more optimized than the raids, with how easily MC etc got cleared - will the same happen in TBC?

  • @M4Production
    @M4Production 4 года назад +3

    the final patch of bc easy moded black temple and sunwell btw.

    • @TheAzozoi
      @TheAzozoi 4 года назад +1

      Can't wait for people to kill magtheridon without gear on TBC classic :D

    • @Maverick-di2br
      @Maverick-di2br 4 года назад +5

      If you mean the 30% nerf to boss health that was the Wrath pre-patch.

    • @sedlinasera3891
      @sedlinasera3891 4 года назад +1

      3.0 did. Arrmor reduction effects (sunder ffire, expose) all got changed into flat % based values from numeric ones. Boss armor and health was changed accordingly as leaving the TBC ones as they were would have made them a massive arrmored meatball.
      I'm not saying that it felt good to see all the 'we only clear kara' scrubs all of a sudden posting their hyjal/bt clears. But people tend to forget that the 2.4.x changes were not the patches that turned pve raiding into the 'joke' that people remember from that pre patch era.

  • @StizzardLizzard
    @StizzardLizzard 4 года назад +21

    Blizz for the love of god just tell us how you're handling transfers from classic to TBC. I want to know if coming back to level alts with the intention of porting them to TBC is a waste.

    • @ogikay7056
      @ogikay7056 4 года назад

      Yup.. We wont know until it is announced

    • @lvsoad22
      @lvsoad22 4 года назад +3

      dude aq isn't even out yet

    • @codyrichardson8913
      @codyrichardson8913 4 года назад +3

      I think it's probably a pretty safe bet that you will be able to progress classic characters into tbc

    • @jamesbaggett3655
      @jamesbaggett3655 4 года назад +3

      Most ppl seem to want character copies so they can still dick around on a classic server locked at 60.

    • @ykonratev
      @ykonratev 4 года назад +1

      @@jamesbaggett3655 I dont get that what would you do..okay you get your absolute bis then what?

  • @MrWestSky
    @MrWestSky 4 года назад +3

    Sure Paladins get a buff, but can anyone 100% confirm you'll get invited as a Paladin Prot or Retri into dungeons?
    I mean, I hate being Holy, I want to use Prot or Retri and not have to start from LV0 to be on the Horde... But what's the point if no one is gonna let you join dungeons

    • @Deno_7_
      @Deno_7_ 4 года назад +6

      prot paladins are fucking always wanted everywhere, since casters are so overpopulated, there is always spellcleaves going, and rep farm spell cleaves, so yea 100% can confirm.

    • @Davidhenry1210
      @Davidhenry1210 4 года назад

      It's not 100% guaranteed but it should be done with a guild where you are good friends with them. If not then you might have to search.

    • @MrWestSky
      @MrWestSky 4 года назад

      @@Deno_7_ really, prot paladins are wanted?
      I read everywhere people just rather take warriors as tanks cause they are much better than prot pally.
      Im asking cause I wonder if I should keep investing time on the game or not, if only Holy gets invited, then no point

    • @jasonhamm3370
      @jasonhamm3370 4 года назад

      Google exisrs

    • @SinerAthin
      @SinerAthin 4 года назад +4

      Prot Paladins are one of the best AoE tanks in TBC.
      You will without a doubt get invited to dungeons in TBC as a Prot Paladin. Also keep in mind that tanks are RARE. If you apply to a group, even as a mediocre tank, chances are you'll get invited almost instantly.
      This even applies to Classic WoW(albeit to a lesser extent). Because tanks are so rare, groups are willing to invite even Druid or Paladin tanks in Classic rather than wait 1-2hour for a warrior tank.
      This would not be the case of Retri Paladins; even in TBC; who are more likely to be passed up in favor of other DPS specs.

  • @merogin
    @merogin 4 года назад

    Honestly I want to see us go back through it patch by patch. That's one major failing by blizzard they could rectify going forward.

    • @holysecret2
      @holysecret2 3 года назад

      I myself would prefer 2.4.3 class balance. As a Druid, I don't want to start without swift flight form, and as a bear tank I want a good T4 set rather than what it started out as before loot buffs.

  • @slotrans17
    @slotrans17 4 года назад +1

    Thunder Clap in defensive staaaaaannnnnccccce

  • @mahtan2685
    @mahtan2685 4 года назад +1

    biggest change is that during the last patch of TBC you have +spelldamage on +heal gear (1/3 of +heal value) and with around +2000 heal, it's quite some impressive ~600-700 +spelldamage. That means that each Paladin is a Shockadin and so on. Most people don't know that and wonder why healers are so strong on private servers ^^

  • @MrStrangechange
    @MrStrangechange 3 года назад

    You could def pick herbs in flight form in WOTLK

  • @1ButtonDash
    @1ButtonDash 4 года назад

    you should do a new video on the server situation. I think a topic on whether they should or should not do merges. Suggestions, fixes, etc. I'm on a very low pop server and while I like it I wouldn't mind merges however ther are people in my guild who like the server the way it is and don't want merges. Not sure what the answer is. Would like to see a new video on it.

  • @Sindragozer
    @Sindragozer 4 года назад +1

    Great video WillE!

  • @jfrancis2768
    @jfrancis2768 4 года назад

    as i remember and i may remember this wrong, but when anzu was released only druids could win him too, so if you weren't a druid you couldnt have anzu at all

    • @ZanathKariashi
      @ZanathKariashi 4 года назад

      Nah, it always worked like the Pally/shammy and Warlock bosses. It was simply a bonus boss for bringing a druid that was on/had done the quest along, and this time it offered a Mount, instead of just gear you'd probably replace pretty quickly or was already garbage. Druids just had a tendency to claim the first Anzu until they already had one. Though personally I never cared for it and just charged people to come along to summon the boss instead. Why would I want an ugly bird mount that can't even fly??? When I just went through hell to get to my Epic Flight form (Warranted..i also had the Winterspring Frostsaber on my druid..which was his only ground mount, period, after that horrible grind I went through to get it).

  • @Llando
    @Llando 4 года назад +3

    TBC is basically how classic should have been.

    • @mysterymastermind175
      @mysterymastermind175 4 года назад

      TRUE

    • @blckkeef
      @blckkeef 4 года назад

      Travis LORD pretty much but there is a lot of beauty in the flaws of vanilla

  • @brojeffy
    @brojeffy 4 года назад +13

    great video! if I'm starting WoW classic now, should I create my character with the intention of how things will pan out in BC?

    • @jameshyde4670
      @jameshyde4670 4 года назад +1

      Not really, there is still a lot of content you have to go through before even considering TBC changes. Use your specs and itemisation to get through the classic stage and start considering TBC once your max level.

    • @jayb8940
      @jayb8940 4 года назад +1

      Whatever you do don't create Alliance as horde will be much more OP

    • @harmstrongg
      @harmstrongg 4 года назад +13

      Just play what you want to play man. Enjoy now.

    • @Tachizuu
      @Tachizuu 4 года назад +15

      @Uncle Ho what's the point of doing anything if you're just going to die eventually anyway?

    • @gozcubukcu1
      @gozcubukcu1 4 года назад +2

      @Uncle Ho TBC is not confirmed. Wow might take the Classic + route as well as there are a lot of players that do not want to play TBC again.

  • @dyrrziesoda790
    @dyrrziesoda790 4 года назад +1

    I have just 1 important question for you WillE, is TBC alt friendly ?
    I love having alts and experiencing other classes, but idk if it is going to be possible in TBC because of all the rep grind and keys requirement for every character :(

    • @thekyleprojekt7996
      @thekyleprojekt7996 4 года назад +2

      No, it's not alt friendly if you want to raid on your alts, you're going to be playing 8 hours a day running the same dungeons over and over in the same order

    • @dyrrziesoda790
      @dyrrziesoda790 4 года назад

      @@thekyleprojekt7996 and in terms of pvp ? Am I going to need pve stuff there like trinkets ?

    • @MrGlennJohnsen
      @MrGlennJohnsen 4 года назад +1

      @@dyrrziesoda790 PvP gear and PvE gear still has some crossover in TBC but not nearly to the same extent as Vanilla, early on the PvP (arena) weapons are very good for PvE and later on the PvE trinkets and some set bonuses are very strong for PvP.

  • @benm7382
    @benm7382 4 года назад

    3:00 TBC never had that long CC durations. 2.2.0 nerf was from 12 sec to 10 sec duration.

  • @LG-ro5le
    @LG-ro5le 3 года назад

    Im in a end game content guild with maxxed players and find myself leveling alone wich is putting me off the game, whats the best way to find a leveling guild in tbc?

  • @TheT0N1c
    @TheT0N1c 4 года назад +2

    The +5 bow weapon Skill for Trolls is really strong it basicly gives you 3% hit. So with tbc your Trading 3% Hit for 1% crit which is quite a nerf in Terms of pve

  • @neoda91
    @neoda91 4 года назад +1

    the teleport warlock was the biggest in my opinion

    • @LikeVenom18
      @LikeVenom18 4 года назад

      what kind of teleport? the only teleportation that i know of (aside of summoning, which isn't really a teleport) came in the WOTLK expansion

  • @lildrinks
    @lildrinks 4 года назад

    warrior death wish changed from fury to arms in patch 2.3 was MASSIVE blow to warriors in pvp and pve

    • @Ash-vt5cp
      @Ash-vt5cp 4 года назад

      I thought it was supposed to be a buff in PvP? Most PvP warriors spec arms for mortal strike, even before the change. That 50% heal reduction is a necessity in arena. With death wish, they were OP.

    • @lildrinks
      @lildrinks 4 года назад

      @@Ash-vt5cp it made fury warrior useless in pvp

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 4 года назад

      @@lildrinks With or without deathwish fury was shit in PvP.

  • @zrox345
    @zrox345 4 года назад +1

    I loved this video please do more

  • @natur3calls
    @natur3calls 4 года назад

    I've already got a sign up for Raven Lord mounts. I'll be getting it first of course

    • @Ayayron_e3
      @Ayayron_e3 4 года назад +3

      sure bud u aint gettin shit

    • @Ayayron_e3
      @Ayayron_e3 4 года назад

      @Brian what? I wasn't even talking to you..

  • @HeyManDontEatThose
    @HeyManDontEatThose 4 года назад +2

    #1 people will beg to bring us Shadow Priests in group content.

  • @PinchySkree
    @PinchySkree 4 года назад

    Missing: Elemental/healing shaman overhaul and the removal of elemental immunities from raid bosses

  • @231eh
    @231eh 4 года назад

    You left the one with the largest impact on raiding out of this video. The fact that they remove crushing blows in Sunwell which made Warriors pretty much pointless. If they launch with this at the beginning of TBC Classic Warriors will be useless from the start.

  • @christopherrowles7673
    @christopherrowles7673 4 года назад +1

    So, are we confirmed getting TBC? Or is this still up in the air? I'd like if they kept doing this to relive other expansions.

    • @worstgraphics3998
      @worstgraphics3998 4 года назад

      Blizzard emailed some People so they can vote on how they like the launch of tbc be ( as in if all classic servers will become tbc or you get a free transfer to a tbc server and current servers remain classic ) ever since then everybody knows its confirmed

  • @hannespi2886
    @hannespi2886 4 года назад

    I've heard during playing classic that Hunter's deadzone for shooting get's removed? Seems prettty big not to mention, or am I wrong or did u already cover this?
    Anyway very nice to see this video, helps me decide what kind of class I want to play in TBC

    • @paulv20
      @paulv20 4 года назад

      It doesn't get removed but massively reduced. Almost to where the person is standing in font of you and you can shoot them.

    • @MrGlennJohnsen
      @MrGlennJohnsen 4 года назад

      'Dead zone' refers to hunters in Vanilla/Classic having a 0-5 yard melee window and a 8-35 ranged window. Meaning if you were 5.1-7.9 yards away from mobs or enemy players you couldn't attack them because you were too far away for melee attacks and too close for ranged attacks, in TBC the minimum ranged window was made the same as the maximum melee window. If you got too close to a mob it would automatically change over to starting melee attacks, if you moved further away you would start ranged attacks.

  • @lvitntnmrcls
    @lvitntnmrcls 4 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @jordanwinters5268
    @jordanwinters5268 4 года назад +2

    what about Summoning Stones at every instance?

    • @moose9626
      @moose9626 4 года назад +1

      If you're talking about the summon stones outside the instances this isnt relevant since this video discusses "CLASS CHANGES" not TBC changes in general. Also if you did mean Summoning Ritual, he did in fact mention it in this video.

  • @felipecabral7366
    @felipecabral7366 4 года назад +2

    Hello Willie!!

  • @SadisticStang
    @SadisticStang 3 года назад

    Why on Earth would they release on final patch? The reason they did it for Vanilla era (or so they say) is due to limitations in data /client builds. However for Burning Crusade they have every patch and hotfix/iteration at their disposal. Players want progression, not a rush to the end. Anyways, you did this on purpose to be able to qualify your click bait title as some technicality - when most of these come in later patches and the likelihood is they'll release in order

  • @squidkid625
    @squidkid625 4 года назад +3

    saying troll weapon skill is usefuless bc no ranged glancing bows is ignoring the 3% hit you don't need as a troll with a bow lol, 3% hit to 1% crit is not a "straight up buff"

  • @applepai8575
    @applepai8575 3 года назад

    My suspicion is that Willie can only count to 10.

  • @TheScrumTV
    @TheScrumTV 4 года назад +1

    SHould really cover Enhancement Dual Wield/Ghostwolf change. Pretty game changing for them.

  • @boliver30
    @boliver30 3 года назад +1

    The title is a bit misleading because most of these changes are from TBC to a later patch in TBC...

  • @solidusraiden2502
    @solidusraiden2502 4 года назад

    can herb in flight form but you have to be on the ground, was added back in

  • @justincoltharp9701
    @justincoltharp9701 3 года назад

    Cant wait for bc to release so i can actually make a character to play :)

  • @gripghoulshorts2503
    @gripghoulshorts2503 4 года назад +7

    Shadow priests and healers will be *so good and nobody will ever go OOM*

    • @lolwhatever7307
      @lolwhatever7307 4 года назад +2

      >nobody will ever go oom
      >moonkins, elems, arcane mages and all healers say hello

    • @MarcusPalle
      @MarcusPalle 4 года назад

      I will go shadow priest in tbc i hope they are good in pvp like they are in vanilla

    • @EricN73158
      @EricN73158 4 года назад

      they still go oom just can output more cuz they go oom slower

    • @jasonhamm3370
      @jasonhamm3370 4 года назад +1

      Marcus they’re good in the earlier patches since the meta is caster focused. By BT and Sunwell when rogues and warriors come online, they get stomped into oblivion since they have no mobility or defensives. Hope this helps

    • @jarlfisk
      @jarlfisk 4 года назад +1

      So U think it's good no one will ever go oom ? Then BFA noob edition is for you my friend .

  • @Redishere
    @Redishere 4 года назад +4

    You should make atleast a triology on this subject

    • @WillEmmo
      @WillEmmo  4 года назад +2

      Was considering doing patch by patch, ill have a look though!

  • @shadowdante7971
    @shadowdante7971 4 года назад

    Sometimes I think of Tuberculosis when I hear TBC

  • @Idontlikeanyoneanywhere
    @Idontlikeanyoneanywhere 4 года назад

    Warlocks get to actually be destro in a raid. I can’t wait.

    • @littlesunshine9218
      @littlesunshine9218 3 года назад

      And only press Shadowbolt. ;D

    • @holysecret2
      @holysecret2 3 года назад

      They also get to actually be affliction, with the debuff limit mostly gone. Basically warlocks in general get to be what they want to be without artificial limitations.

  • @Mr_Fantastic447
    @Mr_Fantastic447 4 года назад +2

    ret paladins being viable with seal of blood

    • @adriansmith5241
      @adriansmith5241 3 года назад

      all paladin talent viable in tbc and even got broke a couple of times to the point that whole chat full of people complaining about it till they rushed out a nurf. Prot pally in tbc the only viable aoe tank

  • @Ceece20
    @Ceece20 3 года назад

    I’m just waiting for TBC. I tried like a bit of classic, but honestly the whole endgame content just made me not want to play anymore. Especially the drama and such.
    Also World Buffs requirements just really ruined it. Did you spend 2 hrs collecting all the mats and world buffs? You didn’t? Well did you do it last time and not play your character for 6 days just to keep the World Buff?

  • @politicsandreligion7058
    @politicsandreligion7058 3 года назад

    Shadow Step

  • @ChiefDoggingfood
    @ChiefDoggingfood 4 года назад

    Good classic content, and you're not even a dirty zug? Subbed.

  • @lionoh
    @lionoh 4 года назад

    Blood Elf Gang Bangs Inc'Inc ,Get em ready.

  • @tomasnovellino5980
    @tomasnovellino5980 4 года назад

    Hey Willi.. could you clarify something for me? Was it in TBC when they allowed druids to eat, drink and use potions whilst in cat 🐈 or bear 🐻 ? That woukd be a big major class change

    • @Klaital1
      @Klaital1 4 года назад +1

      I think that was in wtlk pre-patch.

    • @jasonhamm3370
      @jasonhamm3370 4 года назад

      Check out google.com

    • @LikeVenom18
      @LikeVenom18 4 года назад +1

      eating and drinking in forms was made possible in WOTLK.

    • @tomasnovellino5980
      @tomasnovellino5980 4 года назад

      @@jasonhamm3370 usually do that.. but having someone actually playing and publishing content related to TBC .. just thought would be an easy answer

  • @stolenn4me
    @stolenn4me 4 года назад

    More! Now!

  • @MrLonely2
    @MrLonely2 4 года назад

    I dont remember, but back then in tbc warlocks couldnt summon you to mechanar etc. if you havent learned flying!?

    • @MrLonely2
      @MrLonely2 4 года назад

      Brian Yes but early bc you couldnt even summon to those plattforms i remember...but perhaps im wrong

    • @ZanathKariashi
      @ZanathKariashi 4 года назад

      @Brian it depends on if they consider that a catchup change or not. Removal of the Netherstorm Interference came with the Sunwell patch, and wasn't possible before then.