Ross has asked that we subscribe, trust everyone does, as it’s free. I would also advocate using him as a fitter, if you are within striking distance of Newbury, defintley worth a visit. In my fitting Ross offered me the specs, so i could purchase online or used, very fair and honest. I elected to buy through his business, he matched the best online quotes, received my fitted clubs, checked the lofts and lies, and then forwarded the clubs to me. Fitting and post fitting service was 2nd to none, fitting exactly as you see on YT, not rushed, thorough and informative. 2 hour journey for me, worth every minute.
Great video Ross. Recommend anyone to go and see these guys. I went with the intention of buying a new driver and Ross instead gave me a lesson saying just didn’t need one yet. Can I think of anyone else who would do that - er no! Top guy and excellent channel 👍
You are doing a great job with your reviews and great information you share! You are my go to RUclips site for true, accurate and unbiased information!
On my way to see you on Saturday. Brilliant videos which clearly show you personalise fittings - take your time to understand individual players - and a local business too. Can’t wait 🎉
love your stuff mate..im 12 hcp and played p770s...after 2 trips abroad playing rental stealth clubs it became apparent how harder i was making the game for myself..bought some when home and there so much easier and scoring is far more consistent..i also find them easier round the greens
Ross- I find your content very much value add. Keep doing what your doing ad I am sure you will gain more subs as more people see the value of your content. Keep up the good work!
This was a really good informative video. I’m thinking about buying the T350s and this was a really nice comparison with a high handicapper swinging. He looks just like me.
Genuinely informative and smart club fitting stuff, well done. I'd be there like a shot if I could try clubs outside rather than on the simulator (I'm a pretty good golfer off the mat, a much poorer one off actual grass....). But I really hope you grow and prosper: starting up on your own is always a challenge, I'm convinced you'll get to where you want to be.
I recently just had a fitting and went with the AI300 clubs 2 degrees weaker. I've picked up 20 yards over my 15 year old clubs and the dispersion and consistency are much better.
The g730 while being SGI also has a vertical center of gravity that is higher in the head. With his strike being higher on the face it’s not a surprise it worked so well. Most SGI irons have a low VCOG which are better for sweepers of the ball.
Yeah I mean that could have had something to do with it but I don't think it's vastly different to other SGI irons. Moving CG significantly in irons takes a lot
@@epgolfstudiosI was just going off Maltbys numbers. Ping over the years keeps going higher and higher with their vcog and more weight on the perimeter for higher moi.
I'm struggling to see how Dave is a 22 when he hits his 7i 150 with pretty decent consistency especially when he says he's comfortable with putter and wedge ! Another top video and results are really close which in many respects which is a credit to the lower proved clubs vs the premium brands
@@epgolfstudiosha ha sounds familiar ! Still loving my 7w (and 5w) you fitted me for and working on technique before coming back for another driver review sometime.
An excellent and very comprehensive review, I would have to say that if your tester is a “high handicap” golfer then there must be some other aspect of his game that is really crap !
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it. And don't forget we edited out a hell of a lot of shots 😂 I only showed you guys a very small portion of what we actually hit on the day
I was going to say the same thing. When he’s on actual turf the toe is going to dig and he’s going to hit to the right every time. The only club that he didn’t hit with an angle of more than 2* down was the forged tech.
I am in the high 20s (barely breaking 100 if I'm lucky) and I am looking at the Maltby TS3s. I know this may be a long shot, but any experience with that iron in the GI category especially? Also, here for the Mizuno vs the Srixons. Have tried the AI Smoke HL and Ai300.
The PINGs were so good for him! You wanted more spin and/or decent angle. A few questions. Did you consider having him try the G430? A touch more loft there. OR did you discuss with him playing or testing a higher spinning ball? Tour Chrome X, BXS, Z-Star Diamond, even Maxfli Tour X all good options depending on feel preference and price point.
Yeah I mean this obviously wasn't a fitting video but I did mention that I wouldn't fit him into that category of iron I'd definitely go more loft. The 430 could have been an option or probably going into like the ZX5 would be good or 790/T200 etc
As you can see the performance difference isn't huge, so basically just make sure you get fitted properly and then go with the option that give you most consistentcy. But get fitted somewhere you can test them both at the same time with the same shaft 👌
Hi I had the Stealths for almost 3 seasons and loved them got about 400 rounds with them with original grips so I sold them lol looking at the Qi irons / PXG Black Ops irons / and the Cobra Darkspeed irons any thoughts or advice ? anyone ? thx cheers from Canada
Are there any negatives to game improvement irons as I have been fit into players distance irons lofted up as being older and not holding greens because of 76-78 7 iron swing speed. The fitter I saw was dead against game improvement irons for me as he said they would give me no feedback on poor strikes. Currently a 13 handicap age 58.
This wasn't a fitting video it was a test video. I wouldn't advise him to actually game any of these irons I think we need to move Dave up into the next category of irons that have a bit more loft. So maybe we could do a full fitting video with him later on 👍
Hi Ross you said he was leaking the Mizuno out to the right wouldn’t that be down to lie angle Mizuno normally 1 degree flatter lie angle compared to other manufacturers 👍🏴
@@PeterLoof high enough. 25+ you're really struggling to get any fair data with the clubs tbh. I don't think it would be do-able. This isn't designed to be a fitting type video it's designed to be a fair test of how the clubs perform against each other. Even in this vid it turned out to be almost more of a fitting type outcome where the clubs he hit best appeared to be the best performance wise, which isn't really the case at all, it's just that's it's not really a fair test of the clubs. And that was with a shed load of shots being deleted.
Yeah if this were a proper fitting I'd be fitting him into more upright the 63* 7 iron, possibly a blended set, more upright in the long irons and progressively get flatter
Na, we used to do PXG but they're going more direct to consumer now so we will just let them do their own thing. Yeah they're decent but certainly no better than any other premium brand.
@@epgolfstudios The irons are right there with mizumo and srixon. The woods are greatly improved. I like the local PXG fitter and buying experience. I have a couple callaway fairways too
I can tell you as a 40 year mechanical engineer, all the majors make great products, it’s a matter of getting the correct equipment for the individual’s game
Well I certianly wouldn't call them the kings of game improvement by any strecth but I defintely will agree that they are great value and perform well for the price
This channel has taken over the old TXG boys for best fitting channel on RUclips.
Thanks man, really appreciate the kind comment and glad you enjoy the videos 🙌🙌👍
A high handicapper to test high handicap irons… genius
Thanks. Did take us a while to come up with it
@@epgolfstudiosI’d like to see a high handicapper test the best Forgiveness drivers and even some older models like sim2
Very unlike RUclips 😂
Yes - normally it’s a guy with a 95 mph 7 iron swing speed testing SGI irons
Ross has asked that we subscribe, trust everyone does, as it’s free. I would also advocate using him as a fitter, if you are within striking distance of Newbury, defintley worth a visit. In my fitting Ross offered me the specs, so i could purchase online or used, very fair and honest. I elected to buy through his business, he matched the best online quotes, received my fitted clubs, checked the lofts and lies, and then forwarded the clubs to me. Fitting and post fitting service was 2nd to none, fitting exactly as you see on YT, not rushed, thorough and informative. 2 hour journey for me, worth every minute.
Great to see a highhandicapper hitting game improvement irons, welldone keep up the good work .
Iv watched some of your vids now and you have opened my eyes when is comes to club fitting keep it up mate its going to pay off one day 👍🏻
Thanks bud appreciate that and glad you like the content 👍🙌
Great video Ross. Recommend anyone to go and see these guys. I went with the intention of buying a new driver and Ross instead gave me a lesson saying just didn’t need one yet. Can I think of anyone else who would do that - er no! Top guy and excellent channel 👍
Thank you mate really appreciate that 🙌👍👊 hope your golf is coming along well!
@@epgolfstudios doing nicely thanks Ross - will be coming to see you at some point to check out an iron fitting 👍
@TheramblinmanTRM top man
You are doing a great job with your reviews and great information you share! You are my go to RUclips site for true, accurate and unbiased information!
Another great informative video, keep up the good work, Ross. Will definitely come for a fitting when i next buy.
Thanks Stephen appreciate the kind words and look forward to seeing you in the studio at some point 👌👍
On my way to see you on Saturday. Brilliant videos which clearly show you personalise fittings - take your time to understand individual players - and a local business too. Can’t wait 🎉
Thanks Chris, look forward to seeing you soon 👍👍
Should have included the Cleveland XL Launcher Zipcore. Great improvement irons.
love your stuff mate..im 12 hcp and played p770s...after 2 trips abroad playing rental stealth clubs it became apparent how harder i was making the game for myself..bought some when home and there so much easier and scoring is far more consistent..i also find them easier round the greens
I hate that you don't have hundreds of thousands of subs.
As always great video!
Thanks bud! Hopefully one day 😂👌
Yea, Ross this channel deserves more subs that it has. I'd fly to you from Hawaii to get fitted if I could.
Thanks bud really appreciate that. And maybe one day when you're over here we can get you in for a fit 🙌
Great video and always a very impressive fitting process. I will definitely visit when I next buy 😊
Ross- I find your content very much value add. Keep doing what your doing ad I am sure you will gain more subs as more people see the value of your content. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Jeff appreciate that mate 👌
These are the reviews I like to see .
Thanks Wade glad you enjoyed it 👍
Definitely like that you got an actual high handicap player to test. Really enjoyed the video.
Great video. This is what we need. Good work!!!
Thanks 🙏
Another great comparison. Would be interesting to see a standard loft club in his hands with that downward strike.
This was a really good informative video. I’m thinking about buying the T350s and this was a really nice comparison with a high handicapper swinging. He looks just like me.
Genuinely informative and smart club fitting stuff, well done. I'd be there like a shot if I could try clubs outside rather than on the simulator (I'm a pretty good golfer off the mat, a much poorer one off actual grass....). But I really hope you grow and prosper: starting up on your own is always a challenge, I'm convinced you'll get to where you want to be.
Thanks Damian really appreciate the comment mate 👍
Love this channel!
Thanks Sean 🙌👍👍
Looks the Ping go high, spin good and far and should stop! Thanks for the review NAC work!
I recently just had a fitting and went with the AI300 clubs 2 degrees weaker. I've picked up 20 yards over my 15 year old clubs and the dispersion and consistency are much better.
Great video! Does the Cleveland Zipcore XL also fit in this group?
Yes 100%, it would perform pretty similar to the irons in this test
The g730 while being SGI also has a vertical center of gravity that is higher in the head. With his strike being higher on the face it’s not a surprise it worked so well. Most SGI irons have a low VCOG which are better for sweepers of the ball.
Yeah I mean that could have had something to do with it but I don't think it's vastly different to other SGI irons. Moving CG significantly in irons takes a lot
@@epgolfstudiosI was just going off Maltbys numbers. Ping over the years keeps going higher and higher with their vcog and more weight on the perimeter for higher moi.
Great channel
I'm struggling to see how Dave is a 22 when he hits his 7i 150 with pretty decent consistency especially when he says he's comfortable with putter and wedge !
Another top video and results are really close which in many respects which is a credit to the lower proved clubs vs the premium brands
It's because we hit about 150 shots in this video, and I probably only showed you about 30-40 😂 there were a lot of duffs, some shanks etc.
@@epgolfstudiosha ha sounds familiar ! Still loving my 7w (and 5w) you fitted me for and working on technique before coming back for another driver review sometime.
That's awesome Andy glad they are still working well for you 🙌 and look forward to seeing you again at some point soon 👍
Subbed. Great video. I would like to see him try a few High Launch heads with that steep attack angle and club head speed.
Subscribed buddy!! Great channel.
Thanks mate appreciate that
Nice video Ross
Thanks Yucel, hope you're well and hope the golf is going well 👍
great video
Would be really interested to see a comparison with David hitting the G730s & the I530s.
Brilliant content
Thanks Sean 👍
An excellent and very comprehensive review, I would have to say that if your tester is a “high handicap” golfer then there must be some other aspect of his game that is really crap !
Thanks Paul, glad you enjoyed it. And don't forget we edited out a hell of a lot of shots 😂 I only showed you guys a very small portion of what we actually hit on the day
Nice video. Looks like Dave should be +2 degrees up? Or would that have increased his fade tendency?
I was going to say the same thing. When he’s on actual turf the toe is going to dig and he’s going to hit to the right every time. The only club that he didn’t hit with an angle of more than 2* down was the forged tech.
Great vid. Clearly you can’t show every shot (good, bad and ugly) but I think you have the balance right here👍🏻….
I am in the high 20s (barely breaking 100 if I'm lucky) and I am looking at the Maltby TS3s. I know this may be a long shot, but any experience with that iron in the GI category especially? Also, here for the Mizuno vs the Srixons. Have tried the AI Smoke HL and Ai300.
The PINGs were so good for him! You wanted more spin and/or decent angle. A few questions. Did you consider having him try the G430? A touch more loft there. OR did you discuss with him playing or testing a higher spinning ball? Tour Chrome X, BXS, Z-Star Diamond, even Maxfli Tour X all good options depending on feel preference and price point.
Yeah I mean this obviously wasn't a fitting video but I did mention that I wouldn't fit him into that category of iron I'd definitely go more loft. The 430 could have been an option or probably going into like the ZX5 would be good or 790/T200 etc
Wilson Launchpads and Cleveland Halo Launcher XLs are the cat’s meow
The cats?? 😂😂
Would have liked to see PXG. I’m on the fence between Srixon or PXG for next irons
As you can see the performance difference isn't huge, so basically just make sure you get fitted properly and then go with the option that give you most consistentcy. But get fitted somewhere you can test them both at the same time with the same shaft 👌
Liked and subscribed
Thanks Kevin much appreciated 👍
I'd suggest the Mizuno is going slightly to the right due to the lie - look at the toe down strikes. Adjust that, the hits will be more straight.
Hi I had the Stealths for almost 3 seasons and loved them got about 400 rounds with them with original grips so I sold them lol looking at the Qi irons / PXG Black Ops irons / and the Cobra Darkspeed irons any thoughts or advice ? anyone ? thx cheers from Canada
Any chance you could do a head to head with the Cleveland Halo XL's?
Are there any negatives to game improvement irons as I have been fit into players distance irons lofted up as being older and not holding greens because of 76-78 7 iron swing speed. The fitter I saw was dead against game improvement irons for me as he said they would give me no feedback on poor strikes.
Currently a 13 handicap age 58.
hey was wondering what golf sim you have? was looking into them
We use Foresight Sport, the software is FSX 2020 and we use the GC Quad launch monitor 👍
@@epgolfstudios noice thank you, also like how in depth you go in your videos
Is there a video of drivers with the High handicapper?
Can we get the ai smoke irons (regular and HL) vs apex?
So what irons did he end up getting? Great video btw.
This wasn't a fitting video it was a test video. I wouldn't advise him to actually game any of these irons I think we need to move Dave up into the next category of irons that have a bit more loft. So maybe we could do a full fitting video with him later on 👍
Wondering if you’ve considered the halos? Ugly but I had incredible results from it.
Should he be in an R flex shaft ?
In all honesty it wouldn't make much difference but given speed miss and delivery I'd edge to Stiff
@@epgolfstudiosafter watching the whole video I now agree. His swing speed and transition warranted a stiff.
@@epgolfstudiosafter watching the whole video I now agree. His swing speed and transition warranted a stiff.
Hi Ross you said he was leaking the Mizuno out to the right wouldn’t that be down to lie angle Mizuno normally 1 degree flatter lie angle compared to other manufacturers 👍🏴
Hey Wayne, no im pretty sure i had them all at the same lie angle in this test
@@epgolfstudios thanks for feedback Ross looking forward to your next upload 👍🏴
Maybe a JPXHM High Launch…..?
Yeah absolutely that would probably be a good fit for Dave
No JPX 925?
Did mention that in the vid. This was filmed before release. As any new release though I'm sure it will only be fractionally different
High hcp?
Why not 25+?
@@PeterLoof high enough. 25+ you're really struggling to get any fair data with the clubs tbh. I don't think it would be do-able. This isn't designed to be a fitting type video it's designed to be a fair test of how the clubs perform against each other. Even in this vid it turned out to be almost more of a fitting type outcome where the clubs he hit best appeared to be the best performance wise, which isn't really the case at all, it's just that's it's not really a fair test of the clubs. And that was with a shed load of shots being deleted.
Looks like he could use 2 deg upright, especially with the Apex.
Yeah if this were a proper fitting I'd be fitting him into more upright the 63* 7 iron, possibly a blended set, more upright in the long irons and progressively get flatter
How tall is Dave?
Not sure, like 6'2/3 id say
@@epgolfstudios did he extend his club? How many inch?
It’s crazy to me that modern seven irons are 28°. That’s my five iron. My seven is 35° lol
Me too. I was going to get new irons next year but now I need to rethink that decision
Really the bottom line is one needs to be individually fitted IMHO
100% I would never buy any equipment off the back of a review. You absolutely always need to get fitted
No PXG? They’re the best.
Na, we used to do PXG but they're going more direct to consumer now so we will just let them do their own thing. Yeah they're decent but certainly no better than any other premium brand.
@@epgolfstudios The irons are right there with mizumo and srixon. The woods are greatly improved. I like the local PXG fitter and buying experience. I have a couple callaway fairways too
I can tell you as a 40 year mechanical engineer, all the majors make great products, it’s a matter of getting the correct equipment for the individual’s game
Bruh, 925 is out
Wasn't at time of filming
No Cleveland No Wilson the two kings of game improvement irons you guys have more money than sense
Well I certianly wouldn't call them the kings of game improvement by any strecth but I defintely will agree that they are great value and perform well for the price
@epgolfstudios I agree Kings maybe an exaggeration
Buy blades, practice and never need to buy another set ever again.
Dave needs media training. He said "Hmm & Mmm" a hundred times, was too annoying to watch.
Mate he's just a normal bloke not an actor 😂😂
You left out the best of all of them Wilson.